I was reviewing the WBC rankings, and I was shocked. There are 5 heavyweights ranked above him, and all five fighters would be much more competitive. This fight is going to be a replay of the Kirk Johnson fight, unless you are a big Cotto or Vitali fan, save your money.

cos he beat tyson who was seen as the main viable threat to vitali so now the champ vs the man who beat the man gives the best ppv figs i would think.
u may ea thoise words my friend, though i hjave to say if vitali blows Danny away im gonna be chewing on a few posts for weeks :D :D :D

ill change my ame or somink as a pennance, tho i think danny will pull of a surprise man...i called tyson and now im calling this one, all be it with less confidence.

cos he beat tyson who was seen as the main viable threat to vitali so now the champ vs the man who beat the man gives the best ppv figs i would think.
u may ea thoise words my friend, though i hjave to say if vitali blows Danny away im gonna be chewing on a few posts for weeks :D :D :D

ill change my ame or somink as a pennance, tho i think danny will pull of a surprise man...i called tyson and now im calling this one, all be it with less confidence.
C'mon, Tyson was a viable threat to Vitali? How long ago was the Lewis fight? Was it really all of 2 years ago?

its not for me to say who was viable or not, im telling you what the money match was my friend.

then the tyson nuthuggers would have been out in force to watch him get his ass pounded in to the dirt another time.

its quite sad that those who want him to win so bad and profess to love him so much are actually perpetuating him continuing and getting hurt in the ring.

tyson is finished mate as a fighter, but as a marketable commodity he sure aint.

i wouldt be surprised to see tyson get a shot at the winner of this fight, not a bit.

its not for me to say who was viable or not, im telling you what the money match was my friend.

then the tyson nuthuggers would have been out in force to watch him get his ass pounded in to the dirt another time.

its quite sad that those who want him to win so bad and profess to love him so much are actually perpetuating him continuing and getting hurt in the ring.

tyson is finished mate as a fighter, but as a marketable commodity he sure aint.

i wouldt be surprised to see tyson get a shot at the winner of this fight, not a bit.
If Danny Williams is where the money is, why is the PPV only $39.99?

cos its going out in europe and theyt need to at least roughly standardise the price, next..... :D

(15 quid here = bout 30 bucks)

cos its going out in europe and theyt need to at least roughly standardise the price, next..... :D

(15 quid here = bout 30 bucks)
In America, this fight is simply not an attraction. I mean, even Lewis-Vitali was on HBO.

Well first off there no american fighter involved, I wouldnt pay for it to watch rahmann against vitlai, Id get a re run.
The reason its on showtime I think is because hatton is on ppv in england as a double header so tv rights as hatton was signed to showtime had to go to them not HBO or hatotn couldnt be on the bill.
Its pretty obvious they are targetting the UK for big PPV sales as danny is a uk figher.

Well first off there no american fighter involved, I wouldnt pay for it to watch rahmann against vitlai, Id get a re run.
The reason its on showtime I think is because hatton is on ppv in england as a double header so tv rights as hatton was signed to showtime had to go to them not HBO or hatotn couldnt be on the bill.
Its pretty obvious they are targetting the UK for big PPV sales as danny is a uk figher.
Wouldn't a fight with Rahman or Toney bring more credibility and more sales than a fight with a guy who stopped a faded Mike Tyson?

guess not mate. certinaly rahmann not in the uk.

toney yeah id pay to see that but toney is injured.

guess not mate. certinaly rahmann not in the uk.

toney yeah id pay to see that but toney is injured.
But isn't the money in America?

vk is fighting danny cause there was nobody else out there for him.... golota, ruiz, byrd, rahmnan, etc all just fought on that crap card the other weekend.... mesi is out indefinately... toney just fought booker and is now injured..... so that left willliams, barrett, jirov, whitaker and fres... of which williams is the hottest fighter

so that left willliams, barrett, jirov, whitaker and fres... of which williams is the hottest fighter
The other guys above are much more credible than Danny Williams.

jirov is a cruiserweight who just lost to mesi, as did barrett.... fres was just KO'd by ruiz... whitaker has beaten NOBODY.... williams fresh off the tyson KO, is hotter then all of them right now... he's the most sellable opponent and IMO more dangerous than any of the others mentioned...

jirov is a cruiserweight who just lost to mesi, as did barrett.... fres was just KO'd by ruiz... whitaker has beaten NOBODY.... williams fresh off the tyson KO, is hotter then all of them right now... he's the most sellable opponent and IMO more dangerous than any of the others mentioned...
It just shows how ****ed up the division is. But can we all agree that this fight has no business on PPV?

oh yeah, and i agree that williams isnt worthy of a title shot..... but the out of whats out there i guess its better than VK just not fighting at all

oh yeah, and i agree that williams isnt worthy of a title shot..... but the out of whats out there i guess its better than VK just not fighting at all
But should it be a PPV?

i agree with you, it should not be PPV..... under normal cicumstances williams should not be getting a title shot at all

i agree with you, it should not be PPV..... under normal cicumstances williams should not be getting a title shot at all
There we go. This is a card that simply will not sell unless you are a Cotto or Vitali fan or own a bar.

BTW guys you heard that because of the civil war in Ukraine VK might have to cancel this fight and return to his country. Just heard from couple of my russian friends.

I was reviewing the WBC rankings, and I was shocked. There are 5 heavyweights ranked above him, and all five fighters would be much more competitive. This fight is going to be a replay of the Kirk Johnson fight, unless you are a big Cotto or Vitali fan, save your money.

The only other fighter who is available and who is ranked above Williams is Barrett, and I have no idea what happened there.

jirov is a cruiserweight who just lost to mesi, as did barrett.... fres was just KO'd by ruiz... whitaker has beaten NOBODY.... williams fresh off the tyson KO, is hotter then all of them right now... he's the most sellable opponent and IMO more dangerous than any of the others mentioned...

Whitaker has beaten Maskaev and Barrett, both of whom are ranked higher than Danny Williams by the WBC.

THe fight doesn't bother me as much as the fact that they are making it a PPV...THAT is ridiculous.

Vitaly is all about money now. He made a fight that will make him a couple of bucks. DW is a good fighter for a first defense. Also casual fan knows about DW and his victory over Tyson. Give Vitaly a break he worked hard for his belt let him make some money now :)

why are they fighting?
simple becuase they are trin to sell Vitali to the general public as the legitiemit champ

The guy that derailed Tysons comeback bid for a title
now vitali is gonna beat the man that beat the man that most fans still regard as the most dangerous hw around

hope this finally squashes tyson's fans hopes of tyson makin a comeback
i think ive finally realized tyson wont be becomin champ again

whitaker also has losses to mccline and savarese..... more importantly, what has whitaker done since his last loss to mccline??? nothing..... whitaker has done even less than wiliams to earn a title shot....

whitaker also has losses to mccline and savarese..... more importantly, what has whitaker done since his last loss to mccline??? nothing..... whitaker has done even less than wiliams to earn a title shot....

I agree, I was simply stating that he has beaten people in the past. And while he hasn't beaten anyone that is anything since he lost to McCline, but he did have a draw with Ray Austin for whatever that's worth.

BTW guys you heard that because of the civil war in Ukraine VK might have to cancel this fight and return to his country. Just heard from couple of my russian friends.


sorry but bollox he doesnt even live there anymore and would be sued for millions.

its a shame that mike tyson is still making ppv and he
isnt even fighting. thats all it is.

the mike tyson show rolls on with williams at the helm.

if williams loses inside 2 rds he could take on herbie hide
who also got bashed in 2.now i do wanna see that

slim, hide is finished mate.

Ups!!! my bad. Only Wlad for Kiev. Vitaly is training in LA right now.

Sorry Mate Didnt Mean To Be Rude!

I was reviewing the WBC rankings, and I was shocked. There are 5 heavyweights ranked above him, and all five fighters would be much more competitive. This fight is going to be a replay of the Kirk Johnson fight, unless you are a big Cotto or Vitali fan, save your money.
I've read that VItali even said that they started on paper work between him and Tyson to fight, so I think Vitali really feals c heated out of not getting hte opportunity to fight Tyson. FIghting Danny Williams after this fight seems a litlte more dangerous than some of those other guys ranked above Williams, and plus they wanted a big name to get the PPV fight. I also doubt the availiability of some of those fighters ranked above Williams.

I agree, why THIS fight? Maybe it's good to get a fighter acclammated to PPV before they try to push a BIG PPV fight for Vitali, like say ag ainst Byrd, or Toney or something..

the ppv in the uk will be pretty good though gents, that might balance the books a little more.
espcially with hatotn on earlier, anyone who likes boxing in the uk will be aware of dec 11th.

Damn too bad i wont be able to see Hatton. We in Brooklyn will only get Cotto as an undercard. I dont even remember the name of a guy he fights.

vk is fighting danny cause there was nobody else out there for him.... golota, ruiz, byrd, rahmnan, etc all just fought on that crap card the other weekend.... mesi is out indefinately... toney just fought booker and is now injured..... so that left willliams, barrett, jirov, whitaker and fres... of which williams is the hottest fighter

About Rachman...they're saying he's the mandatory challenger now and DOn King himself stated he's trying to line up a fight against Vitali for Rachman in March or April of next year. But what happened to the Beck/Barret fight facing Toney for mandatory challenger? And when is the beck/barrett fight anyway?

Yep the Rock is the #1 mandatory. I would rather see Vitaly vs. Toney though.
They should make Rahman vs. Toney eliminator

i hope they do make the fight with rachman, so we can be rid of him for good.... he couldn't beat ruiz or holyfield, but he has people buzzing about him cause he's beaten a few BUMS.... VK will KO his ass badly...

Damn too bad i wont be able to see Hatton. We in Brooklyn will only get Cotto as an undercard. I dont even remember the name of a guy he fights.


ILL TAPE IT ANYWAY AS ILL BE THERE AT THE EXCEL, IF YOU CANT GET HOLD OF A COPY LET ME KNOW.

cotto is fighting Randall Bailey, a terible match up Randall is bloody natural superfeatherweight so please dont anyone moan aobut Hatton fighting Oliveria. :eek:

Wouldn't a fight with Rahman or Toney bring more credibility and more sales than a fight with a guy who stopped a faded Mike Tyson?
Toney stopped a faded Holyfield what in his heavyweight achievements has he done that makes him so great. Rahman needs to beat a name fighter. Williams was the right choice for Vitali to make more money I think but I dont understand why Williams didn't opt for Ruiz I think he would have been easier.

These days in the heavyweight division you get ONE good win and you're suddenly a contender.

James Toney's two wins at heavyweight are mediocre. His win over Holyfield, which looked great at the time has now been put into perspective by Holy's thrashing at the hands of Larry Donald.

And his win over BOoker proved nothing.

Black

These days in the heavyweight division you get ONE good win and you're suddenly a contender.

James Toney's two wins at heavyweight are mediocre. His win over Holyfield, which looked great at the time has now been put into perspective by Holy's thrashing at the hands of Larry Donald.

And his win over BOoker proved nothing.

Black
Yeah I must say that Tony's win over Holy is a little tainted now inlight of the fight of the Donald fight

he beat a hurt tyson