i think that tae kwon do is one of the most awsome martial arts there is.... just look at this cool ass sparring match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POCdo0TdCxU

they do...anderson silva is one from the top of my head

they do...anderson silva is one from the top of my head

WRONG.....Silva is a Muay Thai striker and a BJJ Black-belt

few people strictly use one discipline anyway. tae kwon do is more point related than other disciplines

anderson silva is Muay Thai, Taekwondo, Boxing, Judo, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. he has a black belt in taekwondo, judo and bjj

I've always heard that Tae Kwon Do is utterly useless in a real fighting scenario.

Not sure if it's true or not but I just figured I'd share that since the thread title grabbed my attention.

I've always heard that Tae Kwon Do is utterly useless in a real fighting scenario.

Not sure if it's true or not but I just figured I'd share that since the thread title grabbed my attention.
but in that sparring match, those kicks looked lightning fast and devastating... if karate can be used in mma, tae kwon do can....

No one can't use straight TKD...well, in MMA you can't use straight up anything. But TKD doesn't work as a primary style because of a lot of the things don't apply. But some things ARE used...Anderson does it, Shogun does it...and i can't remember who else.

but in that sparring match, those kicks looked lightning fast and devastating... if karate can be used in mma, tae kwon do can....

yeah, but most the karate styles used in MMA are full contact sports as well, so there's a reason why it transfers over well.

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It's not so much that no one uses TKD in MMA. I'm pretty sure there are some fighters who were TKD guys before they got into MMA. It's just that none of those guys are sic enough like a Machida(w/ his Shotokan), to put their TKD skills in display.

Coz Taekwondo sucks, like the vid posted by GreatA showed it. They have their hands down and throw pathetic kicks in the air. Muay Thai kicks are better coz you can keep your balance and have a good rythm.

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lol funny way to win: Body Slam.

But that guy outweighed the other dude like 2x... and the TKD guy looked like a pompous ass who wouldn't have done better no matter what background he had.

TKD experts have good footwork and leg speed..... but they neglect thier hands too much. Kicking below the belt line is not allowed in TKD, which means they concentrate on high kicks which make them unstable after a miss.

but in that sparring match, those kicks looked lightning fast and devastating... if karate can be used in mma, tae kwon do can....

tae kwon do and most karate is useless in mma.

it's because they are used to striking for points instead of for damage.

at least some karate styles practice full contact fights.

the reason muay thai does so well in mma is because they train hard , practice hard and fight hard.

It's a street fight art. That's why.

Pure self defense it doesn't teach you rounded physical survival.

It teaches you self defense.

tae kwon do and most karate is useless in mma.

it's because they are used to striking for points instead of for damage.

at least some karate styles practice full contact fights.

the reason muay thai does so well in mma is because they train hard , practice hard and fight hard.

karate wasn't designed for fighting for points, it was designed for fighting to kill.

it was turned into a sport later on (along with Tae Kwon Do's ancestor art) to preserve it.

life or death self defense, point fighting, and "knock the other guy out" fighting are three different things.

i asked my bro the same thing lol. pretty interesting tho. but i hear karate is prob one of the most useless

i asked my bro the same thing lol. pretty interesting tho. but i hear karate is prob one of the most useless

Simple answer: TKD is mainly kicks based.

maybe in japan

Go to an MMA show in Korea. You'll see a lot of guys with TKD bases (I'm saying this because I've been).

Kind of like how if you go to an MMA show in Iowa you'll see a lot of wrestling-based fighters, and if you go to a show in Japan you'll see guys with judo bases.

For that matter, in Brazil you'll see a lot of BJJ, and in Russia you'll see plenty of Sambo. See what I'm getting at?

i think that tae kwon do is one of the most awsome martial arts there is.... just look at this cool ass sparring match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POCdo0TdCxU

Do you mean why no TKD fighters have success in MMA?

Because it's not a practical Martial Art.

Any martial art that teaches you to have your hands at your tights is just not practical. Yep, TKD looks awesome but if you can KO someone with a flashy kick that means you could have Knocked him out with many different ways and without exposing your back and or making you lose balance.

The only somewhat useful strictly TKD kick in MMA is the spinning back kick.


Go to an MMA show in Korea. You'll see a lot of guys with TKD bases (I'm saying this because I've been).

Kind of like how if you go to an MMA show in Iowa you'll see a lot of wrestling-based fighters, and if you go to a show in Japan you'll see guys with judo bases.

For that matter, in Brazil you'll see a lot of BJJ, and in Russia you'll see plenty of Sambo. See what I'm getting at?
Altho, the best fighters from Korea are Judokas... I don't think fighters with a TKD base will have much success in MMA...

anderson silva is Muay Thai, Taekwondo, Boxing, Judo, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. he has a black belt in taekwondo, judo and bjj

I know you saw that on his wiki page, but he never trained judo per si. But many people believe he's a Judo BB 'cause of his wiki and he did TKD when he was a teenager, if he got a black belt during his adolescence that tells a lot about TKD lol.

Also, he trains capoeira too.. Anderson just received his yellow cord in Capoeira.

See: http://www.mmamania.com/2010/1/25/1268706/anderson-silva-gests-capoeira

:D (he starts his "ginga" aroung 1:39). Also, he just trained Hapikdo with Seagal LOL!

It's a street fight art. That's why.

Pure self defense it doesn't teach you rounded physical survival.

It teaches you self defense.

hehe quite the contrary. No efficient self defense art will teach you to drop your hands and expose your head while throwing flashy kicks with little power and while you do that you expose your back and lose balance.

No one can't use straight TKD...well, in MMA you can't use straight up anything. But TKD doesn't work as a primary style because of a lot of the things don't apply. But some things ARE used...Anderson does it, Shogun does it...and i can't remember who else.

Anderson uses the spinning back kick 1 time every 10 fights. Shogun never practiced TKD and thus he doesn't use it. Never did.

Altho, the best fighters from Korea are Judokas... I don't think fighters with a TKD base will have much success in MMA...

Korean judo is also very very good. Probably second to Japan.

The guys I saw in Korea for the most part fought with an all around MMA style, but a lot of them had a base in TKD, or at least experience in TKD. Actually, in Korea everyone (male) learns TKD in the military, and military service is mandatory (for males).

My main point really is that MMA styles vary by region. A lot of Korean fighters have TKD experience, and naturally they'll employ this. Also, TKD in Korea is not quite the same as TKD in the US. I think it is a lot broader in Korea, with various styles and schools. Just my impression, but a lot of people in Korea practice TKD.

I know you saw that on his wiki page, but he never trained judo per si. But many people believe he's a Judo BB 'cause of his wiki and he did TKD when he was a teenager, if he got a black belt during his adolescence that tells a lot about TKD lol.

Also, he trains capoeira too.. Anderson just received his yellow cord in Capoeira.

See: http://www.mmamania.com/2010/1/25/1268706/anderson-silva-gests-capoeira

:D (he starts his "ginga" aroung 1:39). Also, he just trained Hapikdo with Seagal LOL!

Don't you mean Aikido?

Seagal is an Aikido great.

And incidentally, Aikido is Japanese; Hapkido is Korean (just pointing this out).

hehe quite the contrary. No efficient self defense art will teach you to drop your hands and expose your head while throwing flashy kicks with little power and while you do that you expose your back and lose balance.



Anderson uses the spinning back kick 1 time every 10 fights. Shogun never practiced TKD and thus he doesn't use it. Never did.

Also, many TKD kicks are extremely powerful.

I think I sense a bit of bias here.

It's MMA, sure. TKD is a different sport. That doesn't mean that TKD is completely worthless. Everything is relevant.

TKD definitely has a reputation in the US though. You can basically buy ranks, for one thing.

I and he did TKD when he was a teenager, if he got a black belt during his adolescence that tells a lot about TKD lol.

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They don't give teenagers Black belts in most other Martial Arts?
I have never hear of that rule

Don't you mean Aikido?

Seagal is an Aikido great.

And incidentally, Aikido is Japanese; Hapkido is Korean (just pointing this out).

Oh sorry, I thought they were the same thing, just a mispronunciation like ju jutsu and jiu jitsu.

Also, many TKD kicks are extremely powerful.

I think I sense a bit of bias here.

It's MMA, sure. TKD is a different sport. That doesn't mean that TKD is completely worthless. Everything is relevant.

TKD definitely has a reputation in the US though. You can basically buy ranks, for one thing.



yeh, some are really powerful, I know that... I don't have a bias tho. Obviously you can learn and add weapons to your arsenal from any martial art. I just think that the today version of TKD that's taught around the world is not as practical/efficient as other martial arts. Olympic gives you popularity but it kills the martial aspect of the art. Which is sad

Look at judo, for example... What we see in the Olympics isn't the real judo. But 90% of the practitioners are taught the "sportive Judo", not the "self defense martial art Judo". Same will happen to BJJ in the future...

PS: I think that every MMA striker should add to their games at least the spinning back kick from TKD. It's a great weapon to have in your arsenal.

yeh, some are really powerful, I know that... I don't have a bias tho. Obviously you can learn and add weapons to your arsenal from any martial art. I just think that the today version of TKD that's taught around the world is not as practical/efficient as other martial arts. Olympic gives you popularity but it kills the martial aspect of the art. Which is sad

Look at judo, for example... What we see in the Olympics isn't the real judo. But 90% of the practitioners are taught the "sportive Judo", not the "self defense martial art Judo". Same will happen to BJJ in the future...

PS: I think that every MMA striker should add to their games at least the spinning back kick from TKD. It's a great weapon to have in your arsenal.

Not much to do with the thread, but how was that first kick to the back of the head not an illegal blow?

Not much to do with the thread, but how was that first kick to the back of the head not an illegal blow?

It's definitely illegal but in real time is hard to notice it landed on the back of the head.

Next time he throws it the ref may warn him.

Jose Canseco does.

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mma_experts__8/ept_sports_mma_experts-173060813-1243337684.jpg?ymUfWUBDCUrbz3Aq

:boxing:

it doesnt really translate to mma that well. just like karate.

Oh sorry, I thought they were the same thing, just a mispronunciation like ju jutsu and jiu jitsu.

Ju jutsu and jiu jitsu are the same word, just ju jutsu is the Japanese spelling/pronunciation and jiu jitsu is the Portuguese.

Joe Rogan is a TKD champion...

its about as useless as bringing a knife to a gun fight lol.



doesnt translate good

karate wasn't designed for fighting for points, it was designed for fighting to kill.


Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner.

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THIS GUY WOULD **** UP TAE KWON DOE PEOPLE .. CLEAR KARATE RIGHT HERE..

THIS GUY WOULD **** UP TAE KWON DOE PEOPLE .. CLEAR KARATE RIGHT HERE..

What's up with his Bruce Lee type "WAAAAHHH"s after every hit?

Ju jutsu and jiu jitsu are the same word, just ju jutsu is the Japanese spelling/pronunciation and jiu jitsu is the Portuguese.

That's what I mean.

I thought aikido and hapkido were the same MA but with a different spelling.

That's what I mean.

I thought aikido and hapkido were the same MA but with a different spelling.

Yeah I realized this after I replied.

Cro Cop used some TKD kicks against Barry.

Cro Cop used some TKD kicks against Barry.

Yeah but he's trained to kill.

See that's the difference. Most people fight in a ring etc, he has to contain the fact he's a killing machine. Already been proven.

He a swat cop for one................his job in life is to hurt others. If you fight Mirko outside the ring you're dead.

What's up with his Bruce Lee type "WAAAAHHH"s after every hit?

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well im not sure if any fighter uses TKD as their main base for style..but there are definitely fighters who have black belts in TKD, like Stephan Bonnar, Ben Henderson and Anthony Pettis.

What's up with his Bruce Lee type "WAAAAHHH"s after every hit?

It's done to control breathing and flexes and releases torso muscles.

You also hear a lot of boxers 'Roy Jones' being a well known example make a "tiss" "tiss" sound.
Also helps fool judges into thinking that missed shots have landed.

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Cung Le is the only fighter I've ever seen use Tae Kwon Do well. And even he uses primarily San Da. But Tae Kwon Do looks awesome and is super flashy, but practically, it sucks a giant *******.

tae kwon do is 90 percent kicks and they are easy to get past

ive been kickboxing for a while now and i fought my misses cousin whos been doing tae kwon do for over 15 years and thinks hes the bollocks,his kicks were razor sharp but i stepped in, closed the range and hooked his jaw,he didnt know what hit him and we stopped the sparring after 45 seconds,i was like wtf.if the tae kwon do guy doesnt get you with the first kick then he gets taken out if you know what your doing

Didn't Kimo say he practised it, but was really telling lies?

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This should have been end thread. Because you'll get taken down and raped.

It's the same thing with Machida in his karate. You have to be good at everything else for that aspect to able to shine through effectively. Thats why Machida's karate is so good but he leaves his hands down which is why he got knocked out.

If your not good at anything else you'll look like ^this idiot trying to breathe your last breathe.