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bagwellchamp1
10-03-2009, 02:12 PM
hey. im i have a sparring math with a taller guy nxt wk. he is 6 '3 and im 5'9. i was just wondering how wuld u train to fight a taller opponet and what plan shuld i have goin into the fight.

915
10-03-2009, 05:39 PM
hey. im i have a sparring math with a taller guy nxt wk. he is 6 '3 and im 5'9. i was just wondering how wuld u train to fight a taller opponet and what plan shuld i have goin into the fight.

When I did boxing, my trainer would make sure my jabs were shooting a bit higher than usual during shadowboxing and sparring. This helped with stamina and making sure my punches landed. Use the whole ring as well, don't admire your work. Also you could do work on the inside to take some of his reach advantage away.

'Sugar' Freddi
10-03-2009, 05:49 PM
You got a big surface in front of you so go for the body. Try to double-jab to the head and right hand to the body. That always works when I spar with this tall guy from my gym. Just make sure you jab or fake the jab, and always move your head. Since you're short, fight short so bend your knees and make him mis. I'm sure he's going to try to try to keep you away with his jab and make circles around the ring, so don't follow him - cut the ring.

We want Floyd
10-03-2009, 08:16 PM
hey. im i have a sparring math with a taller guy nxt wk. he is 6 '3 and im 5'9. i was just wondering how wuld u train to fight a taller opponet and what plan shuld i have goin into the fight.Find a Joe Frazier, Julio Cesar Chavez vid on Yo*tube and your questions will be answered!!

Jeff Fenech also has a vid on how to fight a boxer, which is pretty much the same basic game plan on how to work a tall opponent.

keys to fighting a taller opponent

#1) practice cutting off the ring

#1a) keep a high guard( a taller opponent usually likes to throw 1-2's against shorter foes)

#2 head movement

#3 feints

#4 utilize the jab

#5 work the body(focus on targeting the solar plexus and liver)

#6 don't get in a head hunting game, until your body attack starts to wear on your opponent, then mix up your punches to the body and head.

#7 If the taller opponent tries to tie you up, simply push him back.

#8 Once you've found your range against a taller opponent, try to keep that range.

RightCross94
10-03-2009, 10:24 PM
What do you both weigh??

If you weigh the same or he's within say 10lbs of you, come forward with a high guard, parry or slip his jab to get up close, then go to work with lots of close range punches to the head and body, maybe even step back a little to get leverage for a big shot up top, step across and cut him off when he tries to move away and just keep on the ****er, work your heart out and keep the high guard the whole time.

If he's taller and heavier by more than 10-15 or so lbs, you don't want to be up close going to work on him at all, move around him, side to side, keep changing direction, high guard again, maybe head movement if you can see the punches coming, as you move around him, he will have to make a slight turn and adjust his feet- watch for it. As he does it, move in quickly and throw one or two shots, then back out of range and keep moving. You can go back near the ropes but don't let him catch you on them, if he does cover up and try to pivot out and get back to the centre of the ring.

j
10-04-2009, 01:43 AM
those are literally the specs of a fight i have had. so i know how much of an obstacle this could potentially be.

i actually hurt him most with body punches - i think he covered his face well and didnt want me to get up there. so i took the body happily instead.

first, if he has a snappy jap, be careful. u may be able to capitolize on his missed punches since he has much more distance to bring his punches back in.

movement is something u will likely need. just dont be fearful, otherwise, if he is a seasoned boxer, he will smell it and come after u without mercy.

feints can mess up his rhythm. and get to know where his distance is. u might wanna be in and out of his distance.

to train for it, well, you want to be able to use shooting yet balanced footwork. and always be aware of where you are in relation to the center of your target.

these are just a few things. good luck.

#1Assassin
10-04-2009, 08:07 AM
sparring is the training bro. are u gon train for your roadwork next?

but to answer your question, which i think i can do quite well since im over 6'3 tall myself and used to fight at 141..

1. pressure. dont be over aggressive though, intelligent pressure.
2. move your head, slip the jab. dont just slip it to make him miss, get inside it and close the distance. make him pay everytime he throws the jab and make him not want to throw it.
3. use your own jab, you wont be able to outjab a much taller man, but u can get him of rhytm, back him up and give him something to look for up top so he wont see the bodyshots as well.
4. go to the body. throw a double jab to the head, follow up with a 2-3 to the body. work the body consistantly, dont go to the head with powershots until he gives it to you.
5. watch out for the right hand, an uppercut or a cross can catch u coming in and put u on queer street. even if he seems weak he can still get leverage on those shots, plus he will be punching at a low target which gives more power, and u will be walking into it. many tall guys are not heavyhanded, but can get explosive power out of nowhere. dont underestimate that.

chy
10-04-2009, 12:36 PM
/watch?v=xm1SKdkKaJo this is what happend wen i fought a tall guy im 5'5

Marlin26
10-04-2009, 08:50 PM
most of my sparring partners are 6"0+ and have atleast 30 lbs on me.

Im 5"8 and 140

anyway what works best for me is getting close enough to rip some devastating body shots, dont just fire one or two get in there and dig down. Try your best not to trade with them (I love to :P) and i can tell you it sure is'nt the best plan againts guys outweighin you :P anyway as what has been said earlier. Cut off the ring, hands high, Jab! head movement and the final step for sucsess...Heavy bodyshots

keepthemhandsup
10-04-2009, 10:45 PM
overhand right's always a plus

j
10-05-2009, 02:00 AM
here is another Really good tip:

save many of your power punches for when he is more tired. when he is more tired, your hard punches will seem even harder. that is what helped ali KO foreman. ali could never have been able to drop foreman earlier, but the fact that foreman was wore down - both tired, a little beaten up, and mentally frustated - he was susceptable to power punches much more than he would have been.

also, i have found that throwing some power earlier in the fight helps gain respect and helps set the pace more in your favor, and works mentally against him as well.

again, this is what i have found throughout fighting and sparring. i also used Ali/Foreman as an example because i thought it was perfect in this instance.


also, be aware of how u are tied up inside. he may try to lean his weight on you or use other tricks if he is more experienced and not a beginner.

Richie-G
10-05-2009, 12:03 PM
i boxed a tall opponent yesterday, with freakishly long arms. I thought i won, but he got it on a majority decision. parry his jab, use head movement and bang his body. try get inside him and rough him up but dont get careless.

RightCross94
10-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Last 3 or 4 guys i've fought have all been taller

the taller one who was my weight, i just took it too him and threw a fair few punches, i didnt go to the body as mcuh as i should have though and he was able to time me coming in a bit, i lost a razor thin 1 point decision


the other 2 guys were heavier too i just moved boxed moved my head countered etc won easily

and the other one was heavier and taller, but i had a foot injury which limited my mobility a lot, so i ended up drawn into an ugly sort of punch on, and i lost by a couple of points

So if you are gonna take it to a tall guy, make sure its neat and tidy, and dont stand in front of a taller and heavier guy, bad choice

bagwellchamp1
10-06-2009, 02:41 AM
fyi and to help u help me, iv seen him fight b4 and he throws punches in bunches, he uses his reach 2 his advantage but fights shorter than he shuld. he is always punching. he's throwing 1 2's and he throws all his hooks to the ear and he throws swooping uppys thru the guard... its hard 2 say if he has any defense. i dont think he does.

j
10-06-2009, 04:40 AM
fyi and to help u help me, iv seen him fight b4 and he throws punches in bunches, he uses his reach 2 his advantage but fights shorter than he shuld. he is always punching. he's throwing 1 2's and he throws all his hooks to the ear and he throws swooping uppys thru the guard... its hard 2 say if he has any defense. i dont think he does.

like i think i have mentioned, try to stifle any rhythm he could have. be impossible to figure out.

it sounds like he doesnt have too bad of a strategy if he can always punch, and utilizes combos. for a combo puncher, i tend not to stand in front of them, but also make the impression that i will forcibly take it to 'em if they wanna go that way.

intent is a huge part of any fighting art, sport, or platform. and i hope my other points will help. the buggest guy i boxed, was 6'3" - 6'4" and weighed about 260 - 275. he was half a foot taller and about 100 lbs heavier. he was a crisp jabber and could throw an exceptionably hard right. i remember using a right hook to his mid abdomen while moving to my left with much effect. i would have my left hand guard my head while i moved right, if u wanna know the details.

i also pot-shotted more instead of walking him down, as he was a huge linebacker sized guy. but, you kinda have to throw a few hard punches first to let him know what awaits him if he messes up. from there you can start to use feints and more of a movement based strategy while occasionally throwing that hard punch to let him know that u are serious. well, u should hit him hard when u can either way. but combos can work very very well on a big guy as long as u are aware of being able to step out of distance quickly.

and remember, he will get more tired quicker usually. but if he doesnt expend his energy, make him work.

i dont know the details of the guy, but i hope this helps you. good luck man.

supRa
10-06-2009, 05:26 AM
break the body down...