... I just saw two tonight. Okay, they were pretty old, but they were new to me.

First up was Corrie Sanders vs. Michael Sprott. Now, I have no doubt that Sanders would have won, but I was getting into it. Sprott had a high guard, was doing some jiving and Sanders was doing his countering off the ropes. Hey, this is a good fig... what? It's over? Eh? They've only just got started! He got up at nine, ref, you didn't even give it a chance to carry on.


Then I saw Tyson vs. McNeilly. Hey, was this a cracking fight or what? I love Mills Lane saying "knock off that ****" and the commentator claiming he said "stop this nonsense".

Corley Vs Cotto
Chavez Vs Taylor I( i admire JC but come on we all know it wasnt fair)

Chavez Taylor for suuuuuuuuuureeeee

Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko

The cut was awful,but Vitali held his own,winning the majority of rounds prior to the stoppage.

Hector Camacho Jr vs Jesse James Leija

Camacho suffered a cut over his eye and clearly didn't want to fight anymore,as the momentum shifted to the underdog Leija.Unfortunatly Camacho Jr found a way out,sensing the beatdown he would have taken,had he gone on to fight the gamed Leija.

Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko

Oh Yeah they totally stopped Vitali way early!!!! :p I would have stopped it the round after it opened up. That was sick. Especially when the cut man put the swab IN the gaping hole above his EYE!!!!

I too would have liked to see how this would have turned out but damn that fight went on way longer than it could have if lets say, Margaret Goodman were the ring doctor that night.

The most recent example I can think of was the Lacy Vs. Rubin Williams fight. Williams was fighting well against Lacy most of the fight. He was countering very effectively and was winning when the fight was taking place in the center of the ring. He had prooven himself capable of withstanding Lacy's barrages on numerous occasions in the fight. When they stopped the fight in the 7th round it was completely unjustified because Williams was still counterpunching when the stoppage came.

I was thinking that if Williams withstood that barrage by Lacy in the 7th. Lacy would be so tired that Williams could take the offensive again and win the second part of the round and some of the later rounds. What ever happened to standing 8 counts. It seems like premature stoppages are on the rise today when the proper call would be to give the fighter an 8 count.

Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko

The cut was awful,but Vitali held his own,winning the majority of rounds prior to the stoppage.

Hector Camacho Jr vs Jesse James Leija

Camacho suffered a cut over his eye and clearly didn't want to fight anymore,as the momentum shifted to the underdog Leija.Unfortunatly Camacho Jr found a way out,sensing the beatdown he would have taken,had he gone on to fight the gamed Leija.

I haven't seen the camacho jr fight. I'll give it a look. I guess you wanted camacho jr to get whallopped!

The stoppage Ruiz got VS Oquendo was totally insane. That is probably the worst stoppage I have ever seen.

Actually I cant say I was upset when they stopped the Oquendo Ruiz fight because that fight is probably the most boring fight I have ever seen.

Wow! Half an hour and no one has mentioned Zab Judah yet!

IMO that fight stoppage was fair, but I understand the people who think it was stopped early. The reason I believe it wasn't stopped early is because when you fall twice the ref has to stop it. Also, if you saw a fighter talking to you and his legs were moving on there own, wouldn't you think something bad just happened to this guy? While I would have made the same call, I do agree that he looked lucid enough and able to fight after he regained his balance from the second fall.

The stoppage Ruiz got VS Oquendo was totally insane. That is probably the worst stoppage I have ever seen.

Actually I cant say I was upset when they stopped the Oquendo Ruiz fight because that fight is probably the most boring fight I have ever seen.

That was a mercy stoppage. For the crowd. I was there that night. And I couldn't have been happier. Plus, they spent the whole fight clinching so when Ruiz finally landed a punch the ref woke up, didn't know what was going on and figured for Ruiz to be throwing a punch meant the wrestling match had to be over.

Tszyu/Zab so I could pick up some more dance moves

I am not a Judah fan

but Tszyu-Judah

**** man the guy only got caught with one punch and u stopping it? If i was at that fight i would've ****in threw some beer bottles at Jay Nady for wastin my money...

Cotto-Corley

****ing stupid ass ref

Chavez-Taylor

EVEN CHAVEZ FANS ADMIT IT!!



p.s. Can't wait till Rockin1 starts reffin pro and wipes out all these bums :boxing:

****ing stupid ass ref

Chavez-Taylor

EVEN CHAVEZ FANS ADMIT IT!!


indeed, damm how could he stopped that, its so unfair for taylor. he deserv to win that fight, he got beaten up all night and the damm ref stop it when its only 2 sec left :mad:

off the top of my head i would say cotto/corley. that ref was pathetic from the first point deduction on. they should let the ref that was in the first gatti/ward fight do every big fight. that was an old school guy who i dont think would stop anything.

When Nady stopped the Zoo v. Judah fight I think in retrospect it was a good thing for Zab...I would have loved to see the fight continue because I think we would have seen Zab down a few more times.

Zab can always claim bull**** for the defeat but if the fight would have continued he would have taken a beating and been stopped a lot worse...a bad stoppage but hindsight tells me that it all worked out just fine for Judah.

Corley Vs Cotto
Chavez Vs Taylor I( i admire JC but come on we all know it wasnt fair)


would it of been fair if the fight was stopped the same exact reason round 7?

What the hell? Zab Judah was gone in the 2nd round against Tsyzu. In fact, i think Nady should have stopped the fight as soon as the punch landed, by countintg over the fighter he let it go on too long!!
That was a good finish.
Good one to mention is Tyson Vs Ruddock I. Ruddock was not ready to be stopped, way too soon!
And of course Gatti Vs Gamarch! Gamarch was kicking Gatti`s ass, i think it was he wrong way around, the ref saved Gatti!

judah vs tsyzu.......the stoppage was legit.......but I wish nady would have been given a count to 10 before counting him out......lots of fighters get up and then fall again............that loss tarnished his image and confidence forever

I agree super judah that the loss to Tyszu might have done long term damage to Zab`s conifidence. But at the end of the day....**** happens i guess!

What the hell? Zab Judah was gone in the 2nd round against Tsyzu. In fact, i think Nady should have stopped the fight as soon as the punch landed, by countintg over the fighter he let it go on too long!!
That was a good finish.
Good one to mention is Tyson Vs Ruddock I. Ruddock was not ready to be stopped, way too soon!
And of course Gatti Vs Gamarch! Gamarch was kicking Gatti`s ass, i think it was he wrong way around, the ref saved Gatti!2


Thats why there was a Tyson Ruddock 2.

Nothing at all was legit about the Judah vs. Tszyu stoppage. Judah was perfectly fine. He should've been allowed to continue, period. First time in over 25 years that the 140 titles were being unified and the ****ing favorite to win isn't given the opportunity to continue? Isn't at least given an 8 count? He was up by the count of 6 and ready to go on anyhow.

Tszyu fools most people by claiming he doesn't give Zab a rematch to make Zab sweat. That's bull****. He's scared. Hence why he postponed the first match twice. Tszyu also tries to claim the **** where Zab said "winner takes all." Yeah, so? Zab didn't say "Winner takes all and no rematches ever." Nobody asked about rematches even though Tszyu and his ****** fans will lie and say they did. Who the **** asks about rematches before the first fight even happens?

That's like someone saying this week "Oh, Pac vs. Morales will be good, but I'm really looking forward to the rematch. You think they'll have one?" Nobody talks like that. Damn.

mines are taylor and chavez... taylor fought his heart out that night.... hate steele for that one... and judah and tsyzu... there was only like 5 seconds in the round.... and jeff nady stop it... hate jeff for that one... whatever happen to mills lane he was a good ref....

just for the record this is how the rule goes.....

If a fighter is knocked down by a blow, the referee will begin the count. If the fighter rises but then falls again, without being struck by a blow, the referee will then pick up the count where he left off.

Its not word for word but those are the A.B.C rules about the occurence........Rockin'

Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis, I would've been great if it went on.

Francois Botha vs Lennox Lewis

Larry Holmes vs. Marvis Frazier....

There is something about punishment that I can't get enough of..

Joe Calzaghe/Byron Mitchell

Mitchell put Calzaghe on the canvas for the first time in his career, and he planted Mitchell on his ass seconds after he got up, and the ref called it. WAY too early to call it. Mitchell was only a little stunned, and probably could've continued, but the ref was a dickhead and didn't give him a chance. I still think Calzaghe would've won, but it would've been fireworks all the way to the finish-line and I was really looking forward to it.

I'm surprised nobody else mentioned this fight, really.

Tua-Rahman
Calzaghe-Mitchell

Well they did have a rematch, but it was a draw..

Well they did have a rematch, but it was a draw..

We all know Tua got beat the 2nd time around though.

How about Ray Mancini and Deuk-Doo Kim. I really wished they had let that one go a little bit longer, what a totally bad stoppage.

How about Ray Mancini and Deuk-Doo Kim. I really wished they had let that one go a little bit longer, what a totally bad stoppage.

Just a tad tasteless there, Joe.

Just a tad tasteless there, Joe.

Deuk-Doo could have finished, thats just one ****in fast count.

Just a tad tasteless there, Joe.


It was actually just a sarcastic comment on how morally wrong this thread is. People die in boxing, and refs should never be critized for keeping boxers safe.

It was actually just a sarcastic comment on how morally wrong this thread is. People die in boxing, and refs should never be critized for keeping boxers safe.
Ya me too. I thought it was pretty obvious what I thought about this thread, dead men don't fight.

i know this out of the subject... but what if they stopped gatti ward 1... in like the first seconds of the ninth round... i know other refs would stop it... i'm glad this one didnt... just a thought...

People die in boxing, and refs should never be critized for keeping boxers safe.


Good man, joe boxer. Another that realizes that this is the only sport that is not a game.............Rockin'

Mayweather V Manfredy, if only to see manfredy get beaten down properly. Calzaghe V Mitchell, too soon fo a championship fight.

Corley Vs Cotto and Lewis Vs Klitschko
both fights still had a chance of going either way imo

It was actually just a sarcastic comment on how morally wrong this thread is. People die in boxing, and refs should never be critized for keeping boxers safe.
I agree that boxing is a dangerous sport, and that refs are there to make that judgement call that can sometimes make the difference between life and death, and they deserve respect for that, all of them. Still, there are times when refs jump the gun way too early, and the Calzaghe fight was one of them. I don't know if it was because of personal bias or not, but Byron's eyes were clear and he was steady on his feet.....very able to continue. It wasn't a disastrous knockdown such as that suffered by Zab Judah. He just got caught rushing in to finish off what he thought was a muddled opponent, and got set on his tail.

If anything, I think many refs still allow fights to continue much longer than they should, really. The Klitchko/Williams fight is a good example. If I were the ref, I'd have stopped it in 6. The guy was doing nothing but taking a nasty beating from a much larger, stronger guy. Same with Sanders/Klitchko. When one man is getting beaten so badly, there really should be a stoppage...especially in the heavyweight division, where punches landed count for so much more than in any other, and can do more damage. Whether he still has that chance of landing 1 big shot and winning, if they go 2 or 3 rounds taking a nasty ass kicking without being able to land more than a few punches of their own, it should be halted.

Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko

The cut was awful,but Vitali held his own,winning the majority of rounds prior to the stoppage.

Hector Camacho Jr vs Jesse James Leija

Camacho suffered a cut over his eye and clearly didn't want to fight anymore,as the momentum shifted to the underdog Leija.Unfortunatly Camacho Jr found a way out,sensing the beatdown he would have taken,had he gone on to fight the gamed Leija.
yes i would have liked to have seen that fight go on a bit longer, he was giving lennox a lot of trouble, but he would of ended up with no face left if it was allowed to go on much longer

We all know Tua got beat the 2nd time around though.
yes but rahman ducked out of a third fight with tua, i still think tua deserved the draw

Tyson vs. Spinks...cause I don't like the Spinks family

I agree with Joe to an extent, but an early stoppage is still a bad thing when it happens...

I think Nady was right when he caled off Jones even though he was standing, but I can't help but wonder what if Roy would have been able to hang on and recuperate. I'm sure some people feel the same but I'm just glad that in the end Roy has his health.