Roy Jones Jr.
1969 - 2004
R.I.P.

Roy Jones Jr.
1969 - 2004
R.I.P.


ya i agree wit u man
but tha exact same thing happened to wladamir klitschko bro

did wladimir get kod in 2 straight fights..

i thought there was fight/s between sanders and brewster

to be honest i think wlad should retire too.the only people hes capable of beating are the soft hitters like chris byrd

There were actually a couple fights between Sanders and Brewster, and the problem is that while Wladimir is still kinda young, Roy is in his mid-thirties! The reason that Roy is looking the way he is, is partly due to poor competition over the years, but mostly due to his age. At this age he cannot afford to be derailed as he was- Wladimir still has years to rebound, it is far more devastating for Roy.

i agree that the competition wasnt good enough.if hes so great we should of known if his chin was suspect or not...

his chin aint even close to great..i suppose now we will never see calzaghe vs johnson...would of been more competitive imo

i agree that the competition wasnt good enough.if hes so great we should of known if his chin was suspect or not...

his chin aint even close to great..i suppose now we will never see calzaghe vs johnson...would of been more competitive imo


roy jones just doesnt got tha motivation no more
and wtf was tha rappin **** he was doin coomin in tha ring
i thought tha loss to tarver was a wake up call to roy
but it seemed to get everything worse
i'm just sayin wladamir was good then he got ko'd but i think wlad can get back up
it's only 2 losses
i wasnt thinkin when i said that
he got hella potential

all we can hopeis this aint all the motivation he needs...

ill bet anyone 1000 points jones doesnt rematch johnson.
and i bet another 1000 that tarver fights johnson at some point (thats a bit more obvious imo)

i hope roy does stop, i sure as hell dont want this to happen a third time.

me neither....no need to have another brain dead great

ya i agree wit u man
but tha exact same thing happened to wladamir klitschko bro

yeah good point!

:( This is a very sad day for me and i have no shame in telling you all how upset i truely am. I NEVER expected this to happen at all, i thought we would see a recharged Roy. Looks like it is the end of an era, the end of the era of the most talented fighter i have ever seen, i will miss him very much.

They are going to show the fight on british TV tonight, i cannot watch, my favourite fighter is gone :(
I fully expected to see Jones Kos johnson on the main page, i could not believe my eyes :(:(

End of the career of one of the greatest fighters ever

They are going to show the fight on british TV tonight, i cannot watch, my favourite fighter is gone :(
I fully expected to see Jones Kos johnson on the main page, i could not believe my eyes :(:(

End of the career of one of the greatest fighters ever

Garrett i feel your sadness, i was expecting to see that Roy had comeback better than ever. It was sad to see, i'm going to watch it tonight still though.

This is so ****ing sad, Roy was so damn good. The last great fighter in the higher weight divisions is gone.

This is so ****ing sad, Roy was so damn good. The last great fighter in the higher weight divisions is gone.

It is sad, i thought we would see him comeback in top shape mentally and physically. Guess the Roy most of us grew fond of is gone. :mad:

I think i am gonna step back from boxing for a while, this is extremely shocking stuff, what happened, did he just give up? :(
What makes it worse is the people like cynical who just spout all kinds of hate about him. Like he did something to them personally.

Boxers who rely solely on reflex movement to avoid punches tend not to last as long as the boxers who use their arms to defend, as reflexes are the first things to go when you get older. Whats worse is that once the reflexes go it makes the fighters look really bad. Personally I tend to like the boxers who defend relying mostly on their reflexes. I was saddened when i saw naz losing his reflexes and even more saddened seeing jones lose his.
Jones can never come back,age has taken one of his most important assets.
I'm not going to watch the fight tonight, he was the greatest boxer i ever saw (in my time) and i can't bare to see him like he was last night...goodbye RJJ :(

I hear that chilly :(

I dunno about ya'll but for me, the era ended when he got KO'd by Tarver. You had to know he would never be the same.

I feel the first Tarver fight was his greatest victory. He had to buckle down and FIGHT for it. That was the last time we saw Roy's desire.

With Johnson, it wasn't that Roy's skills, speed or athleticism eroded. What eroded was his desire to fight. He just wasn't interested. The pedestal he once sat on, he did not wish to climb back up, because he knew how high it was.

I think you summed it all up there lukhanli, He just did not want to fight.
I was surprised though he looked in amazing shape before the fight i thought he was going to show the world what RJJ can do, saddest day in boxing and it becomes the worst memory in the short time i have followed the sport. :(:(

We got plenty of bright looking stars on the horizon. ****, Erik Morales has ALOT of career left. Manny Pacquaio too. Danny Green I think is gonna make alot of noise. Tarver is gonna be fun to watch. Toney is ALWAYS fun to watch. Kassim Ouma.

The gap Jones left will soon be filled.

I don't think it will ever be filled

Garret. Aw, don't think like that.

Boxers who rely solely on reflex movement to avoid punches tend not to last as long as the boxers who use their arms to defend, as reflexes are the first things to go when you get older. Whats worse is that once the reflexes go it makes the fighters look really bad. Personally I tend to like the boxers who defend relying mostly on their reflexes. I was saddened when i saw naz losing his reflexes and even more saddened seeing jones lose his.
Jones can never come back,age has taken one of his most important assets.
I'm not going to watch the fight tonight, he was the greatest boxer i ever saw (in my time) and i can't bare to see him like he was last night...goodbye RJJ :(

When I saw the KO I couldn't believe it cause Roy actually saw the punch coming. He turned to get his shoulder in the way but he couldn't move fast enough to avoid the punch. He must have gotten old over night cause the Jones I remember wouldn't have been hit by that punch. It wasn't like Tarver's punch that Roy didn't see coming. I was so pissed that I couldn't talk for an hour after watching the fight. I always thought Jones would be smart enough to retire before he let himself go like this.

It was a shot on side of the head. Those shots sometimes just put your lights out.

I think i am gonna step back from boxing for a while, this is extremely shocking stuff, what happened, did he just give up? :(
What makes it worse is the people like cynical who just spout all kinds of hate about him. Like he did something to them personally.
I don't like Jones and never have.
I am extremely happy to see him out and hopefully he retires.
I don't want to hear his **** anymore and I don't want to see him either.

I'm eating crow, now because I asserted before the fight that it would be a mismatch. Now, I think what I said was more like a wish that it would be rather than a declaration of certainty. It was more of an an expression of a desire for the fight to be a mismatch so that Roy can come back.

I continue to believe, however, that, even with Johnson's early flurries, it was less Johnson who made it a match (and not a mismatch) than Roy's greatly diminished reflexes. I also am aware that Johnson is a tough cookie, having been stopped only once (by Hopkins) in all of his 9 losses.That toughness showed in the way Roy's power punches were unable to stop Johnson on his tracks. But the Jones version of two or three years ago, would have dismantled Johnson's assault without a sweat.

I should have seen it coming: Tarver losing their first fight more than Jones winning it and Tarver taking out Roy in the second round of the second meeting claiming he never saw the punch coming. Roy has become old at 35.
Looking back at the greatest ones in the history of the Light Heavyweight division, I see that the Old Mongoose, Archie Moore, was so avoided like the plague that he didn't get a crack at--and win!-- the championship until he was 39 years old! Back to the present, Hopkins is 39 and is looking forward to a successful 20th defense. These facts do not diminish what Roy has done. They only make his imminent departure even sadder. They make us wish Roy lasted longer.

If they play taps and sound the dirge on Roy's career soon, those will be for a career the likes of which are seldom seen.

:( This is a very sad day for me and i have no shame in telling you all how upset i truely am. I NEVER expected this to happen at all, i thought we would see a recharged Roy. Looks like it is the end of an era, the end of the era of the most talented fighter i have ever seen, i will miss him very much. I don't know it's hard to feel sad for guys that make between 10-30 million dollars in some of their fights. Just like Sugar Ray Leonard said when he was a guest on Johnny Carson when he was asked by Mr. Carson 'So when do the wounds heal? and Sugar Ray answers "When the check clears". Don't get me wrong though, I give 'em all the credit in the world for what both DLH and ROY JONES JR. have done for themselves. Personally I had no intentions on watching the Jones Jr. fight ' cause I had predicted like everybody else did that it was gonna be a walk in the park for Roy Jones Jr. . Now I'm pissed that I missed it, I was eating out at some Bar & Grill and saw the k.o. highlight on ESPN, and I thought to myself "Boy, when Roy gets Ko'd he really gets Knocked The F**k Out". I do have a question though, obviously Roy isn't the same fighter he once was, but would you say after seeing this last fight of his, how much of his speed is gone and would any of you still consider him as one of the quickest fighters out there? Did Johnson look faster than Roy?

I don't think it will ever be filled

garrett, you gotta chill out dude. I think you built RJ up to be more than he actually is/was. I'm a big RJ fan too, but RJ doesn't and didn't define boxing. He had as many skeptics as any other fighters out there and his level of competition was not great over the years.

IMO, his decline is a combination of age, lack of motiviation, lack of quality opponents over the years, and a major mind **** by Tarver. He also believed in his mind that he was superman and nothing bad can happen to him.

Also, IMO, he doesn't have the character qualities of a true champion "great"...A true-champion recognizes their flaws and works to improve them. RJ two biggest weapons were ego and physical speed/reflexes. He relied on both until one was shattered by a Tarver KO and the other abandoned him with age. I think a true champion would have used the talent he had as tools to develop great boxing skills and defense. Why didn't he do this? Because his ego told him he didn't need to.

Instead, he used his two weapons as the foundation for his success, and when they were gone, the RJ we knew was gone. Had he developed better boxing skills and a better defense, he would have seen both KO punches and been better prepared. In both KO's, he had his hands down, and against Johnson, he was moving straight back! Two of the biggest no-no's in the sport! Even an unmotivated, out of shape, aging "true-champion" would have remembered basic boxing skills!

I don't like Jones and never have.
I am extremely happy to see him out and hopefully he retires.
I don't want to hear his **** anymore and I don't want to see him either.

I think cynical is actually montell griffin, LOL

I think cynical is actually montell griffin, LOL
lol Nope, not him.

The way I saw it, Roy's hand speed is still there (he threw some combos in the third to illustrate that), but his reflexes to avoid oncoming punches are not what they used to be. He was able to side-step brilliantly, off the ropes, in two occassions and poked a few on Johnson's head, which Johnson did not respect. Most of the time Roy just covered up with his arms instead of try to slip punches to counter. Seldom did he counter and during the times that he did, he saw that his power punches lacked the sting that would make Johnson pay attention. Right in the first, while Johnson did his flurry, Jones smacked a big left to Johnson's right ribs. It did not even make Johnson wince. In the third we saw flashes of Roy's brilliance but, unaccountably, he did not sustain it. On the many times that ref Clancy put them back in the middle of the ring, Roy failed to make Johnson pay often when Johnson rushed him. Instead, Roy just went back to the ropes and covered up. :rolleyes: :( I'm thinking now,was it not only his defensive reflexes that have gone but the power in his mitts as well? Some posted that his heart is gone as well. When he saw that Johnson was not fazed, did Roy give up?

The way I saw it, Roy's hand speed is still there (he threw some combos in the third to illustrate that), but his reflexes to avoid oncoming punches are not what they used to be. He was able to side-step brilliantly, off the ropes, in two occassions and poked a few on Johnson's head, which Johnson did not respect. Most of the time Roy just covered up with his arms instead of try to slip punches to counter. Seldom did he counter and during the times that he did, he saw that his power punches lacked the sting that would make Johnson pay attention. Right in the first, while Johnson did his flurry, Jones smacked a big left to Johnson's right ribs. It did not even make Johnson wince. In the third we saw flashes of Roy's brilliance but, unaccountably, he did not sustain it. On the many times that ref Clancy put them back in the middle of the ring, Roy failed to make Johnson pay often when Johnson rushed him. Instead, Roy just went back to the ropes and covered up. :rolleyes: :( I'm thinking now,was it not only his defensive reflexes that have gone but the power in his mitts as well? Some posted that his heart is gone as well. When he saw that Johnson was not fazed, did Roy give up?
He seemed like he gave up to me. As the fight went on he spent more time looking at the crowd and winking and smiling then anything else.

Roy Jones engineered his entire career for maximum return on minimal risk, he paid for it last night. I guess Johnson didn't see enough of Jones' music videos, television commercials and NIKE print ads to understand he was in over his head. ;) Jones was 10% skill + 40% physical ability and 50% hype. Johnson was probably listening to PE backstage......

He seemed like he gave up to me. As the fight went on he spent more time looking at the crowd and winking and smiling then anything else.
Common phenomenon also known as "whistling thru the graveyard".

Do any of you think RJ is a member on this site?

Roy Jones engineered his entire career for maximum return on minimal risk, he paid for it last night. I guess Johnson didn't see enough of Jones' music videos, television commercials and NIKE print ads to understand he was in over his head. ;) Jones was 10% skill + 40% physical ability and 50% hype. Johnson was probably listening to PE backstage......They just plain forgot to tell Johnson he was supposed to lose, eh? LOL

I have some unfinished business w/ Cleary23. All that sh*t you was talkin' remember the posts you had up, how you thought we were all full of sh*t cause we picked Tarver over Roy on a rubbermatch, and how you would taunt us "for not knowing anything about boxing" where the f**k are you now? Step up! The only thing Roy Jones Jr. can tear up these days is Cleary's a**hole. I have one question for you since you are the BOXING GURU. Do you still think Roy Jones Jr. will win and not only win, you said it yourself Knockout Tarver in a now not so possible rubbermatch? C'mon genius lets see what comes out of your mouth this time besides Roy Jones's cum (lmao). Too bad your old posts didn't carry over to this new format , so everybody could read how retarded your analysis was or lack thereof. Remember the time I said you should get kicked the f**k out, well do yourself a favor and have a graceful exit before you get hit with another one of my barrages and go join your Daddy ROY and you can both be bedside buddies in whatever hospital he's in and talk about the beatings you both have taken!

If so....Roy, what have I taught you!?

Is the chin glass?

I can only imagine how hard Hopkins, Toney, and Tarver were laughing following the KO..

Vitali also, can't believe that clown wanted to fight him. My god imagine how long he would have been on the canvas if VK smashed his grill not Glencoffe!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Is the chin glass? Hell yeah it's glass, ROY JONES Jr. makes "GLASS JOE" look like a man of steel! The fight starts when your tired or hurt , 'cause then your fighting the demon in front of you and the one in your head telling you to quit!

How many people feel that Roy Jones appearing on the video game cover Fight Night 2004 had anything to do with his bad year?

I have some unfinished business w/ Cleary23. All that sh*t you was talkin' remember the posts you had up, how you thought we were all full of sh*t cause we picked Tarver over Roy on a rubbermatch, and how you would taunt us "for not knowing anything about boxing" where the f**k are you now? Step up! The only thing Roy Jones Jr. can tear up these days is Cleary's a**hole. I have one question for you since you are the BOXING GURU. Do you still think Roy Jones Jr. will win and not only win, you said it yourself Knockout Tarver in a now not so possible rubbermatch? C'mon genius lets see what comes out of your mouth this time besides Roy Jones's cum (lmao). Too bad your old posts didn't carry over to this new format , so everybody could read how retarded your analysis was or lack thereof. Remember the time I said you should get kicked the f**k out, well do yourself a favor and have a graceful exit before you get hit with another one of my barrages and go join your Daddy ROY and you can both be bedside buddies in whatever hospital he's in and talk about the beatings you both have taken!
what I can't stand are the KIDS in these posts. and if you're older than a kid you certainly act like one. Not just this guy but a lof of the posts from certain people I have been reading throughout the year.

I can only imagine how hard Hopkins, Toney, and Tarver were laughing following the KO..

they are not laughing, they are thinking about how poor they are going to be now without a money fight with Roy Jones. Tarver has no way to help pay off his bankruptcy stuff now.

Vitali also, can't believe that clown wanted to fight him. My god imagine how long he would have been on the canvas if VK smashed his grill not Glencoffe!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
VK would kill Jones.
Before Tarver and after Johnson.
Jones is just an arrogant little **** who thinks he can act and rap and doesn't focus on boxing.
We should all be thanking Johnson for taking out Jones.

Ya Well You Are An Idiot Cynical

Ya Well You Are An Idiot Cynical
Coming from someone who feels the need to capitalize the first letter of each word?

He must have been infected by the YAMMY!

He must have been infected by the YAMMY!
lol It's like "The Matrix 2" (****ty movie), he's been infected by Yammy and become a clone of Yammy. :p

what I can't stand are the KIDS in these posts. and if you're older than a kid you certainly act like one. Not just this guy but a lof of the posts from certain people I have been reading throughout the year. Dude stay the f**k out of this one , I'm just having fun with the idiot who was talking all kinds of trash from previous posts. I would've left it alone but who in their right mind would name their kid Clyde that's along the lines of names like Dick and I'm betting and please don't lie that you are of filipino descent and that makes it even funnier(lmao).

How many people feel that Roy Jones appearing on the video game cover Fight Night 2004 had anything to do with his bad year?

Jack it's like the Madden Curse(Culpepper, Faulk, Vick. You're on the cover and you get hurt, injured, KO'd...in Roy's case all three. It's just asking to have a bad year.

haha look at this KID not only is he immature, he also likes to give out racial slurs on a message board the way he gives out his ass on the corner. and first of all i wasn't targeting you, it's just the fact that this board is full of people that talk way too much trash and it kind of gets annoying when you're trying to find the actual thread when there are 50 posts of bul**** on it.

did wladimir get kod in 2 straight fights..

i thought there was fight/s between sanders and brewster

there were 2 fights against people with padded records, one who lost every time he stepped up (4 of the 5 by KO/TKO) and was nearly 37 years old, the other against a guy who had never fought outside his native Argentina, was 35 and had only 18 KOs in 31 fights.

they were confidence builders

Roy has always been my favourtie fighter and I dont want this to happen to him again. I just hope people remeber what he did for boxing and not the two losses at the end of his career.

they are not laughing, they are thinking about how poor they are going to be now without a money fight with Roy Jones. Tarver has no way to help pay off his bankruptcy stuff now. Your quite right, it affects Tarver the most and Hopkins the least . The one fight I would love to see is James Toney vs. Chris Byrd who do y'all see winning in that one. I think I'm going to go with Chris Byrd he's been at heavyweight longer and besides being a southpaw he's a very slick one at that. One things for sure there's definitely gonna be alot of shoulder rollin' and dippin'. I don't know if a rematch between Hops and Roy would've come to fruition anyway simply because of the weight. Hops I think said after the fight w/ DLH he was willing to go up to super middle and that would be his highest and he seemed apprehensive in stating that, but coming down for Roy would mean having to lose another 7lbs. that's just insane and we know how careful Roy is, so my guess would've been had he not lost ,he would've gone straight to JT or the rubbermatch with Tarver and not even bother with Hopkins. I wouldn't even bother with Hopkins if I was Roy cause the one time that they did fight Roy pitched a mere shutout, with one hand so why starve myself in a rematch that Hops doesn't even deserve. Now if a rematch between JT and RJJ would've happened it may have turned out the same way, Roy was on his bicycle the first time and he would be on his motorcycle for the second one.

Roy cant fight well at 175 ne more Theres no way a remtatch with Hopkins would go down because he could never get down to middleweight again.

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