Who heard what that loser said in the UFC countdown. I remembered when i heard that i laughed my ass off. This guy doesn't know **** about boxing.
I like Vitor but if he got hurt by Overeem at 205 who was featherfisted, he would get knocked da **** out by any top 50 boxer at CW, even Pacquiao could KO him.

MMA and boxing are two different games.

lulz

in b4 **** talking from boxing and mma fanboys

yeah, i kinda scratched my head over this when i heard it...tad bit pushin it there Shawn. Vitor's had ONE pro boxing match sooooooooooooooo yeah..

ahahahahaha.

Thompkins is a moron and as a striking coach, he's painfully overrated.

Vitor would NOT be a top CW boxer. Not even top 50 (and that's being awfully generous)

To be fair the cruiserweight division is not exactly packed with talent but he better stick to mixed martial arts. An old Herbie Hide and Enzo Maccarinelli (both around top 50) would likely knock Vitor out.

To be fair the cruiserweight division is not exactly packed with talent but he better stick to mixed martial arts. An old Herbie Hide and Enzo Maccarinelli (both around top 50) would likely knock Vitor out.

Vitor has a pretty sound chin, and would have a fair punchers chance against either Hide or Enzo. Lets not forget Hide was knocked out by fat jouryman Joseph Chingangu.

Here's a Vitor boxing match............
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Here's a Vitor boxing match............
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Not bad. Looks like he still carries a good portion of his speed and he looks like he has good power. Some nice feints in there too.

Beyond that he's still raw

I like Vitor but if he got hurt by Overeem at 205 who was featherfisted

How did I miss this?

Sorry man but Overeem is not featherfisted by any means and given his recent success in K-1, his striking is arguably some of the best if not the best at HW in MMA

How did I miss this?

Sorry man but Overeem is not featherfisted by any means and given his recent success in K-1, his striking is arguably some of the best if not the best at HW in MMA

That's exactly my point, Overeem improved his power( i suppose with roids) but in the past had relatively weak hands when he was at 205. He never knocked out or hurt anybody at 205 with his hands. It was knees, kicks but never punches. Alistair's pure power is not incredible. That doesn't change the fact that he's an excellent striker.

That's exactly my point, Overeem improved his power( i suppose with roids) but in the past had relatively weak hands when he was at 205. He never knocked out or hurt anybody at 205 with his hands. It was knees, kicks but never punches. Alistair's pure power is not incredible. That doesn't change the fact that he's an excellent striker.

It's unfortunate he had a **** chin and gas tank at 205...he woulda whooped the **** outta Liddell...

It's unfortunate he had a **** chin and gas tank at 205...he woulda whooped the **** outta Liddell...

here's a recent pic of him, can't say all that extra muscle will do anything good for his gas tank

edit: wont let me post URL link till I get 15 points :frown:

Overeem has been looking pretty solid in his K-1 fights. He just beat a Champion in Aerts, knocked out Hari, and was whooping Remy's ass until he got knocked down in the 3rd.

Super Mutant Overeem is the ****.

It's unfortunate he had a **** chin and gas tank at 205...he woulda whooped the **** outta Liddell...

That's exactly my point, Overeem improved his power( i suppose with roids) but in the past had relatively weak hands when he was at 205. He never knocked out or hurt anybody at 205 with his hands. It was knees, kicks but never punches. Alistair's pure power is not incredible. That doesn't change the fact that he's an excellent striker.

**** gas tank, yes. But a glass chin? How do you figure that? Because he was knocked out by Liddell? Do you know how dumb that sounds?

He was knocked out by Rua on the ground but that doesn't mean he has a **** chin either. Shogun has good power and Overeem was completely outclassed on the ground in both of their fights.

I know an MMA fighter going pro as a boxer is facing an uphill battle

but I'd like to see a Mixed Martial Artist make that transition full time

it could happen with Nick Diaz.

but regardless I'd just like to see it happen.

Vitor has a pretty sound chin, and would have a fair punchers chance against either Hide or Enzo. Lets not forget Hide was knocked out by fat jouryman Joseph Chingangu.

Here's a Vitor boxing match............
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he looked good against a bum...but as much as i love vitor he would get raped that video was from many yrs ago when vitor was still juicing

I know an MMA fighter going pro as a boxer is facing an uphill battle

but I'd like to see a Mixed Martial Artist make that transition full time

it could happen with Nick Diaz.

but regardless I'd just like to see it happen.

nick diaz will be a failure he has horrendous boxing it only works for him in mma because alot of mma fighters have horrible technique...he makes so many mistakes an experienced boxer will knock him out

nick diaz will be a failure he has horrendous boxing it only works for him in mma because alot of mma fighters have horrible technique...he makes so many mistakes an experienced boxer will knock him out

I don't expect Nick to do that well

hell I only think he made the switch, because he was going to fail a piss test for his upcoming MMA fight.

Vitor has a pretty sound chin, and would have a fair punchers chance against either Hide or Enzo. Lets not forget Hide was knocked out by fat jouryman Joseph Chingangu.

Here's a Vitor boxing match............
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Every time he got in a clinch it looked like he wanted to pick the guy up an body slam his ass on the canvas. :lol1: Can't blame him, it must be an instinct.

Nick Diaz would do decent in boxing against a bunch of bums, but **** boxing. He needs to stick to MMA. He's only doing the boxing fight to keep him active until his next Strikeforce bout with Herion.

If it was up to Nick, he would fight everyday against anyone in any weight class. Win or lose, Nick is a bad ass.

here's the recent pic of overeem:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4245/38616332.jpg

he's looking huge, I wonder what all that extra muscle will do to his gas tank though, but then again he won't be cutting down to lhw so it couldn't be an issue

I know an MMA fighter going pro as a boxer is facing an uphill battle

but I'd like to see a Mixed Martial Artist make that transition full time

it could happen with Nick Diaz.

but regardless I'd just like to see it happen.

Already happened, Alexander Ustinov was a former kickboxer, K-1 competitor and MMA fighter before his pro boxing debut.

I find it hilarious that Shawn Tompkins is a boxing coach and yet in all four of his mma fights he's been knocked out

Kickboxing coach.

Kickboxing coach.

No difference, Dice's point is that the "master striker" is someone who got KOed 4 times out of his 4 fights. That's crazy.
He's the biggest fraud as a trainer in all combat sports. Dude doesn't know how it feels to KO somebody. I wouldn't take advices from him.

No difference, Dice's point is that the "master striker" is someone who got KOed 4 times out of his 4 fights. That's crazy.
He's the biggest fraud as a trainer in all combat sports. Dude doesn't know how it feels to KO somebody. I wouldn't take advices from him.

Well he never was a master striker. He was just some regional Canadian champ or something as far as I know.

And yeah, he seems like an overrated coach. Extreme Couture has horrible strikers and their boxing coach is some amateur or low-level pro. Its pathetic.

Already happened, Alexander Ustinov was a former kickboxer, K-1 competitor and MMA fighter before his pro boxing debut.

i peeped his record .. undefeated in boxing 17-0, 7-1 in MMA and 53-8 kickboxing record ... very impressive.

Butterbean also boxed, kick boxed and is currently an MMA fighter

just saying I can't name too many fighters who have done all 3 sports.


**what I'd really like to read is an article about the fighters who have crossed over from MMA to boxing, or vice versa ... and why they did it plus the difficulties they faced

some could include Keith Jardine, Melvin Gulliard, Jens Pulver, KJ Noons, Marcus Davis, Shannon Briggs, etc.

no i dont think so but he is a good ufc fighter but in boxing he wouldn't be top 10

i peeped his record .. undefeated in boxing 17-0, 7-1 in MMA and 53-8 kickboxing record ... very impressive.

Butterbean also boxed, kick boxed and is currently an MMA fighter

just saying I can't name too many fighters who have done all 3 sports.


**what I'd really like to read is an article about the fighters who have crossed over from MMA to boxing, or vice versa ... and why they did it plus the difficulties they faced

some could include Keith Jardine, Melvin Gulliard, Jens Pulver, KJ Noons, Marcus Davis, Shannon Briggs, etc.

Jeremy Williams who got KOed by Sam Peter is a pretty good boxer 42-5 and does well in MMA too.
5-0 in MMA, 3 by KO
I think he could be a champ in the UFC. He even won a fight by submission and has a judo black belt.

KJ Noons is actively boxing right now (last time I checked)

10-2 but hasn't fought anyone really noteworthy. Got into a big fuss over his MMA contract with Elite XC and turned back to boxing

**any updates on if/when Nick Diaz will box professionally again?

i peeped his record .. undefeated in boxing 17-0, 7-1 in MMA and 53-8 kickboxing record ... very impressive.

Butterbean also boxed, kick boxed and is currently an MMA fighter

just saying I can't name too many fighters who have done all 3 sports.


**what I'd really like to read is an article about the fighters who have crossed over from MMA to boxing, or vice versa ... and why they did it plus the difficulties they faced

some could include Keith Jardine, Melvin Gulliard, Jens Pulver, KJ Noons, Marcus Davis, Shannon Briggs, etc.

There's also a fighter named Muhsin Corbbrey, who balances between both MMA and boxing. His last MMA bout was a 3rd round TKO loss against Nick Diaz at EliteXC: Return of the King last year where he did make a good impression by giving Diaz a hard fight until the third round. He trains at Team Lloyd Irvin, mainly a BJJ training facility that also has fighters like Brandon Vera.

It's too early to predict his potential boxing career since he only fought 9 bouts so far (6-2-1), his last recent bout taking place in February this year.

ah right I've heard of Muhsin.

and saw his MMA fight vs Diaz.