View Full Version : Corrales - Castillo
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 02:40 AM It is never to early to start talking about a big fight, so here we go!
--What do you guys think of my boy Chico's chances? I know that Castillo is kind of the trendy pick right now, especially with Diego being inactive since August, but...
While I am obviously gonna hold a little bias, here is why I think Chico is gonna pull if off; people when making a case for Castillo often point to his great performances against Mayweather (when compaired to Corrales' all time worst performance that does not look too bad). But here is the thing- styles make fights and we need to break this **** down! One thing that people should agree on is that the reason Mayweather picked Corrales apart so well is that he is so quick and elusive. This just so happens to be one of Castillo's strong suits (although he likes to stand and slug a little also). HOWEVER, the fact is that while Chico was beaten by the elusive Mayweather, this does not spell certain victory for the sometimes elusive Castillo. Corrales has fought (and beaten) guys who are in my opinion even harder to catch and hit then Castillo, for instance Joel Casamayor (whom both fought and eventually won close decisions against). And there is another thing, Corrales hits harder then Mayweather, harder then Frietas, harder then Casamayor, and harder then Castillo! (As both Frietas and Casamayor who both were put on the canvas by Diego might be inclined to say). And the question is, if Diego is able to catch Castillo, as he did Frietas and Casamayor, will Castillo be able to stand up to his power? And my answer is: "probably not". So therefore I take Corrales by KO.
--Thoughts? Rebuttals? Hate this argument (probably not alone)?
Most will disagree with me but I think that Chico will stop him. The showtime guys said that Chico would box and try to stay away from Castillo because he is too much on the inside for Chico but I think thats bull ****. I think Chico will go toe to toe with him because Corrales doesnt think no one can stand toe to toe with him and survive and neither do I. Chico by 8th or 9th round KO but Im being generous. I think Chico can get him out early maybe
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 02:46 AM 'atta boy! That is what I like to hear...
jpboxer3 03-14-2005, 02:56 AM Corrales is a big puncher but he hasn't faced a fighter as big as Castillo that will pressure him from bell to bell.I think this could be a war for the first half of the fight,but I expect Castillo to systematcly beatdown Corrales the 2nd half of this fight to score either a late TKO or a UD.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-14-2005, 02:59 AM I think castillo will test corrales' chin, Corrales will take it but then castillo will go on to do what he does best and thats wear you down, I think he wears him down and does repetitive chin checks in round 10 that make the ref stop the fight.
arhoihoi 03-14-2005, 03:02 AM I think castillo will test corrales' chin, Corrales will take it but then castillo will go on to do what he does best and thats wear you down, I think he wears him down and does repetitive chin checks in round 10 that make the ref stop the fight.
corales by KO
People think that Chico's chin is weak but I disagree. Power doesnt hurt Chico, speed does. Floyd and Joel's speed is what dropped him. He gets caught off guard and off balance. Thats why Frietas couldnt drop him even though he has more power then Floyd and Joel. I think that Castillo has a questionable chin. I saw him stunned against Floyd, Joel, Lazcano, and Diaz but none have enough power to do anything with it. Chico will hurt him badly and everyone will be shocked
arhoihoi 03-14-2005, 03:19 AM People think that Chico's chin is weak but I disagree. Power doesnt hurt Chico, speed does. Floyd and Joel's speed is what dropped him. He gets caught off guard and off balance. Thats why Frietas couldnt drop him even though he has more power then Floyd and Joel. I think that Castillo has a questionable chin. I saw him stunned against Floyd, Joel, Lazcano, and Diaz but none have enough power to do anything with it. Chico will hurt him badly and everyone will be shocked
floyd really whipped caorrales but
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 03:21 AM I think he was talking about people having enough power to finish Castillo not Corrales. But in any event, like the man said: speed hurts Corrales more then power and Floyd certainly is faster then Castillo (maybe stronger too!)
rogue_warrior 03-14-2005, 03:26 AM Hey, sorry this might be a little of topic, but i'm curious to know about Chico's heritage. With a name like Diego Corrales, i know he has some latino roots......
As far as the fight, i can't make a prediction yet but i think it will be a hard fought battle and stamina will dictate the winner.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-14-2005, 03:26 AM I think he was talking about people having enough power to finish Castillo not Corrales. But in any event, like the man said: speed hurts Corrales more then power and Floyd certainly is faster then Castillo (maybe stronger too!)
Corrales hasnt fought anyone in ages, hes obviously been away from the gym and at krispy kream he looked chubby on FNF.
Corrales only advantage is he might have more power over castillo thats it.
Castillo has experience, work rate, and so far against common opponents, chin.
jpboxer3 03-14-2005, 03:27 AM People think that Chico's chin is weak but I disagree. Power doesnt hurt Chico, speed does. Floyd and Joel's speed is what dropped him. He gets caught off guard and off balance. Thats why Frietas couldnt drop him even though he has more power then Floyd and Joel. I think that Castillo has a questionable chin. I saw him stunned against Floyd, Joel, Lazcano, and Diaz but none have enough power to do anything with it. Chico will hurt him badly and everyone will be shocked
Speed hurts Castillo as well,but obviously not as much as it hurts Corrales.Chico has been KD about 10times against both Casamayor and PBF combined,and Castillo has been KD zero times against those same two fighters.That said,I think Chicos chin is iffy and obviously not as good as Castillos.
I think Castillo's experience against rangier fighters like Lazcano and Bazan will play a big factor in this fight.
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 03:28 AM The only thing you say there that I take any real disagreement with is that he has not fought in ages. August is not all THAT long ago- I mean, would I like him to be more active? Sure. Will this completely shut the door on him winning the fight? Hell no. Also, as for more power maybe-- ask Casamayor (who had to climb off the canvas against Chico) who hits harder...
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 03:29 AM 8 times man... 8....
jpboxer3 03-14-2005, 03:32 AM 8 times man... 8....
about man... about....
:D
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 03:33 AM haha, fair enough...
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 03-14-2005, 03:33 AM The only thing you say there that I take any real disagreement with is that he has not fought in ages. August is not all THAT long ago- I mean, would I like him to be more active? Sure. Will this completely shut the door on him winning the fight? Hell no. Also, as for more power maybe-- ask Casamayor (who had to climb off the canvas against Chico) who hits harder...
Of course that doesnt mean he has zero chance of winning the fight, however it is a disadvantage. Castillo has been fighting name guys and has been winning. He is keeping in shape and is in the gym.
meanwhile Corrales has been hitting the donuts hard it seems. Only making his preparation for castillo tougher and might have to cut corners or focus more on loosing the weight then the actual preparation of a fight plan.
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 03:36 AM Aight, it is off to bed for the evening for this guy-- but I leave these parting words you naysayers! This guy called Chico beating Casamayor in the rematch and KO'ing Freitas in that fight (although my pick was in six... oops)-- Diego just likes living up to my expectations!
jpboxer3 03-14-2005, 03:53 AM Corrales must have felt confident after seeing how close Castillo-Casamayor turned out.Now,I wonder if that all changed after seeing Castillo breakdown and KO a top5 Lightweight in Julio Diaz on TV,not too mention seeing Floyd Mayweather Jr smile for the Camaras in the front row,lol.
cmason 03-14-2005, 04:30 AM if chico stays behind the jab and boxes at a distance, he will win, if he goes toe to toe he'll get stopped late. castillo can be outboxed from distance but if you stand infront of him you'll get worn down. chico is the puncher in this fight but his chin is weaker than castillo's, so it's in his interest not to mix it with castillo. good match up, should be a good fight.
deuce_drop 03-14-2005, 07:27 AM castillo is going to try to rush in and do work on the inside of chico. it's a good place to be, against someone with longer arms, but the fact of the matter is corrales is going to catch him on his way in. and corrales wont let all that fouling go on or at least without retort, like diaz did he's more experienced. corrales will punish castillo for an exciting and game 10 full rds, and ko him in the 11th....body-head combo.....game over. i get my money's worth........
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 06:52 PM One thing that even Showtime (whose announcing I don't carry in the highest of esteem) pointed out is that Castillo is open to the right hand- and Corrales can put people to sleep with either hand. I find myself wondering if Castillo is gonna be able to take Chico's power if he is able to land it easily?
IwatchBoxing 03-14-2005, 06:58 PM Corrales is going to KO Castillo, he was just "alright" against Diaz, and got dominated by Casamayor, the KO might even come before the 6th RD, it is just waiting to happen, I'll take Chicos defense over his anyday.
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 07:06 PM It is true about Diaz, he KO'ed him but Diaz had his moments in the fight. And if Diaz was not cut over both eyes who knows how the fight would have gone- I am pretty sure that alot of guys could beat Diaz when blood is flowing into both eyes!
ZaneTeal 03-14-2005, 07:15 PM Diego Corrales will never be anything less than a very live underdog, no matter WHO he fights; Mayweather included.
But I want you guys to take a close look at his fight with Acelino Freitas. Impressive as his late surge was, the fact remains that he stood idle for seven rounds, lumbering like a zombie & eating punches. Freitas just didn't have the ass to pull it off in the end. He could have ended that fight by asserting himself a little more around round 6 & not relying on half-assed flurries. That much movement & activity is not conductive with his abilities.
Castillo, on the other hand, is a bull. In a slow round, he still throws upward of 60 punches. And it's not like Castillo is just gonna be racking up points on the cards; he's gonna be HURTING Corrales. Corrales has a chance if he gets it in his head to man up in the first few rounds, but Castillo is one of the most dangerous fighters in the world in the later rounds. Corrales only shot is to take care of it early. I just can't see it happening. He's gonna let Castillo into the fight, and it's gonna cost him in the end.
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 07:24 PM [QUOTE=ZaneTeal]
But I want you guys to take a close look at his fight with Acelino Freitas. Impressive as his late surge was, the fact remains that he stood idle for seven rounds, lumbering like a zombie & eating punches. Freitas just didn't have the ass to pull it off in the end. He could have ended that fight by asserting himself a little more around round 6 & not relying on half-assed flurries. That much movement & activity is not conductive with his abilities.{/QUOTE]
This actually is true what you say about the first few rounds of Freitas, I was practically screaming at the TV for Chico to get off his ass and get some work in. However, that slow start is not how he always is. Against Casamayor in the rematch he had his best work in the first six or seven rounds, controlling the fight with his jab and left hook. Against Gainer and Manfredy he was very active early knocking them both out before round four came. I think that Castillo's problem is that he is not just a boxer as you say. I see that as meaning that Castillo is goning to be more willing to stand in the pocket with Diego and trade, unlike Mayweather and Casamayor- and when that happens Diego puts fighters to sleep...
mic573 03-14-2005, 07:26 PM Stylewise this match up heavily favors Castillo in my opinion. Castillo has the better chin, he throws much more combinations, he has more experience and he is much more rough on the inside than Corrales. The only real edge I give Corrales is power but I feel Castillo will be able to hurt Corrales more.
Both Diaz and Casamayor are much better boxers than Corrales and they couldn't stop Castillo from getting to the inside and banging the body so how can Corrales. Corrales usually throws only one punch at a time and Castillo's combinations are going to be landing all night while Corrales tries to reload his punches. His height and reach won't an advantage because once he sees Castillo landing punches he will want to go to war which will be his downfall. I think Castillo will eventually wear Corrales down for the stoppage.
Castillo by late round stoppage in rather one-sided fashion. Corrales has never been in the ring with a fighter as rough and tough as Castillo not even Casamayor. I'm not hating on Corrales but stylewise this matchup just doesn't favor him at all in my opinion. Casamayor and Diaz both had more advantages over Castillo then Corrales and I have even said they would give Castillo much more trouble than Corrales.
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 07:32 PM Castillo has never been knocked out legitimately or down. All of his losses were by cuts, or robbery.
Corrales' chin is suspect. Castillo has K.O.'d 46 opponents.
Corrales is a twig Castillo is a chainsaw.
The bigger machine will systematically break down the weaker fighter.
I beg to differ, only one of the Mayweather fights were suspect and Castillo has yet to fight anybody with Chico's power. Castillo is meat that is headed to the grinder my friend. He is not leaving the ring on his feet.
oldgringo 03-14-2005, 07:36 PM Castillo by mid-late stoppage in a slugfest. Castillo can take Corrales' punches, I don't think the converse is true. It's going to be a hell of a fight while it lasts however. If Castillo cuts then Corrales might take it.
Zab Super Judah 03-14-2005, 07:40 PM castillo will break corrales down with his rough tactics.........corrales might have a harder punch but castillo is still bigger than corrales........castillo will win this
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 07:44 PM castillo will break corrales down with his rough tactics.........corrales might have a harder punch but castillo is still bigger than corrales........castillo will win this
I have a sneaking suspicion that the almost six foot Corrales will come in heavier then Castillo for this fight... So I dunno about bigger per say...
mic573 03-14-2005, 07:53 PM I have a sneaking suspicion that the almost six foot Corrales will come in heavier then Castillo for this fight... So I dunno about bigger per say...
What weight does Corrales usually walk into the ring with? I know Castillo comes in at the junior middleweight level.
SacTown1 03-14-2005, 07:54 PM What weight does Corrales usually walk into the ring with? I know Castillo comes in at the junior middleweight level.
Corrales usually puts on about 10 lbs before fight-time, so I'd expect him to be at about 145 vs. Castillo once the bell rings
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 07:56 PM This is true, but Chico has ony had one big fight at lightweight and I am not exactly sure what he came in at against Freitas... If the size of their bodies tells us the story though, it makes sense that Chico will be the heavier fighter, or at least the same weight...
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 11:56 PM stop it with that research **** man- the fact is Castillo is shorter, as you say, and Corrales has had one fight at lightweight and did not come in at 135... Try some of your own so called research... retard.
NiGe2011 03-14-2005, 11:58 PM And Castillo is three inches shorter, which is not the same size.. dick.
Try some of your own so called research... retard.
Harsh words coming from a biased boxing critic.
Knicksman20 03-15-2005, 12:00 AM I agree with Nige. Chico is an explosive puncher with either hand, particularly the left hook. He throws short crisp punches with bad intentions. Castillo's gonna try & wear Chico down with his rough house tactics but will find it hard to do that to someone who's taller & just as strong if not stronger than him. Castillo eats alot of leather & it he thinks he's gonna walk through Chico's power he's making a huge mistake.
NiGe2011 03-15-2005, 12:03 AM Harsh words coming from a biased boxing critic.
You make an excellent point... When I say "retard" and "dick" I actually mean I respect your different although equally correct interpretation... My bad, sorry.
Chico is still gonna knock him out though. :cool:
Zab Super Judah 03-15-2005, 01:46 AM castillo was at 154 for his last fight........I think the way he fights .....such as his rough styel where he hits on breaks and leads wiht head and all taht will break corrales down......hes going to go to corrales body early to take out the power fomr him
NiGe2011 03-15-2005, 02:00 AM castillo was at 154 for his last fight........I think the way he fights .....such as his rough styel where he hits on breaks and leads wiht head and all taht will break corrales down......hes going to go to corrales body early to take out the power fomr him
Zab it is amazing that we can both agree so much on Judah (who aside from Chico is one of my three favorite guys) yet disagree so much on the outcome of this fight, haha! I think that in order for Castillo to win this fight (which he would be capable of if he chose to fight correctly) would be for him to stay out of the pocket, NOT try to rough house with Chico, and just generally stick and move side to side. However, I dont think that is what Castillo will do. I think that he is going to do as you say and try to get in close with him, put in work to the body, and just generally try to break him down on the inside. In my mind this is playing to Diego's strengths as he is a far better slugger then he is a boxer.
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