So as some of you may know, the UFC set a record in 2008 for most PPV revenue in a single year, in any sport....of all time. Very impressive.

Even more impressive, is that they've already broken their own record from last year, with two PPV events remaining in the year...most notably the card in December featuring Lesnar-Carwin.


UFC 103 - 450,000 (Franklin vs. Belfort) Dallas
UFC 102 - 435,000 (Nogueira vs. Couture) Portland
UFC 101 – 900,000 (Penn vs. Florian) Philadelphia
UFC 100 - 1,720,000 (Lesnar vs. Mir II) Vegas
UFC 99 - 360,000 (Franklin vs. W. Silva) Cologne, Germany
UFC 98 - 635,000 (Evans vs. Machida) Vegas
UFC 97 - 625,000 (A. Silva vs. Leites) Montreal, Quebec
UFC 96 - 350,000 (Jackson vs. Jardine) Columbus
UFC 95 - free TV (Sanchez vs. Stevenson) London
UFC 94 - 800,000 (St. Pierre vs. Penn) Vegas
UFC 93 - 320,000 (Henderson vs. Franklin) Dublin, Ireland

6,595,000 total PPV buys in 2009, so far with 2 more PPV events to go

UFC 100, damn.

Well done

franklin is definitely NOT a draw..

franklin is definitely NOT a draw..

Doesn't look that way does it?

UFC 100 was a great show, compared to the others its no wonder it wins in PPV buys.

UFC 100 was a great show, compared to the others its no wonder it wins in PPV buys.

UFC 100, damn.

Well done

Bob Arum came out and said that they did under 1 Million buys, and that that number was bull**** because they can say whatever they want for some reason...

It was SOUTH of 1 milli....

Too bad UFC had too talk all that trash, and still got doubled....

So much for Dana at least trying...

penn florian put up some good numbers

we dont even know if those numbers are legit..or do we?

UFC100 did not make 1.7

I think the numbers are correct.

http://urdirt.com/2009/07/13/espns-around-the-horn-ufc-100-did-15-million-ppv-buys-is-brock-lesnar-good-for-the-ufc/

Why are people saying 100 didn't do 1.72? Coz Bob Arum said so?lmao

Why are people saying 100 didn't do 1.72? Coz Bob Arum said so?lmao

Because Arum and Schafer are scared of the grappling community. So instead of give them a wee bit of respect, it's better to discredit them and pretend they don't exist.

The UFC is a private company so no one but them really knows if the numbers are legit.Im sure Bob has alot of contacts in the satellite and cable industry after all the years hes been doing ppv events so he could be telling the truth about it doing under a million.If your a privately held company like the UFC you can say whatever you want and there's no consequences because your not breaking any laws.If your company or your parent company is publicly traded like HBO then all your profits and losses must be accurately reported so they can be presented to the stock holders in the quarterly report.

Why are people saying 100 didn't do 1.72? Coz Bob Arum said so?lmao


[/QUOTE]
Schaefer questioned the legitimacy of UFC pay-per-view results that were leaked. He said HBO is a publicly traded company that would face serious repercussions for releasing false numbers. The UFC, he noted, is a private company with no such concerns.

“I think the UFC and boxing should be able to co-exist and work together in this thing that we call (combat) sports,” Schaefer said.

“I don’t want to talk (expletive) about the UFC. But Dana White can’t do an interview without knocking boxing. If he thinks we’re idiots and don’t know anything about the pay-per-view business, I’ll make him a challenge.

“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”
White said he would not allow anyone other than fighters with a contractual right to do so to audit his numbers.

“Do you think I’m (expletive) crazy?” he said.[/QUOTE]




Because Arum and Schafer are scared of the grappling community. So instead of give them a wee bit of respect, it's better to discredit them and pretend they don't exist.


Grow a pair of balls and stop pitying your precious sport.

[/QUOTE]
Schaefer said he thought boxing promoters and the UFC shared common interests and could benefit from working together.

“I would love to sit down with Dana White and the Fertittas (who are the UFC’s primary owners), who I hear are very nice, first-class people, and see if there are ways we can work together to make the (combat) sports space, the fight space, even bigger,” Schaefer said.[/QUOTE]

Why would we pity the top combat sport? Your the one trying to discredit it in the hope of making yourself feel better about boxing. Boxings great and it'll always be around dont worry lol

Lol at the desperation of some boxing fans and promoters, or whatever he is.

If Schaefer's so concerned about the numbers, why doesn't he just pick up the phone and just ask Meltzer?

He pretty much doesn't have anything to hide. He'll share his sources.

It's pretty sad that he has to discredit The Big Ten and PAC 10 just to make himself look cool.

None of these numbers are official.

Bob Arum came out and said that they did under 1 Million buys, and that that number was bull**** because they can say whatever they want for some reason...

It was SOUTH of 1 milli....

Too bad UFC had too talk all that trash, and still got doubled....

So much for Dana at least trying...


These numbers weren't reported by the UFC. So 'they' aren't saying anything.

These numbers are from credible sources who have no ties whatsoever to the UFC, and have no reason to inflate or alter the numbers.

Funny how people like you are getting your panties wet over the biggest draw in boxing, outselling the UFC's lowest selling headliner.

Take a step back and look at the bigger picture, the UFC is outselling boxing by a landslide when you take into account the entire year, and unlike boxing, the UFC's PPV success has been on an upward trend, whereas boxing's PPV success over the same time period have been dropping.


I love both sports, but I have to point out the facts to some of you ignorant boxing elitists.

Im sure Bob has alot of contacts in the satellite and cable industry after all the years hes been doing ppv events so he could be telling the truth about it doing under a million.

These companies would face harsh penalties for releasing that kind of information. Do you really think they would be risking a possible multi-million dollar lawsuit just for peace of mind?

Doubtful.

If your a privately held company like the UFC you can say whatever you want and there's no consequences because your not breaking any laws.If your company or your parent company is publicly traded like HBO then all your profits and losses must be accurately reported so they can be presented to the stock holders in the quarterly report.

Which is exactly why the UFC doesn't report any sales figures. Because they don't have to. Again, these numbers were not reported by the UFC.

But the PPV figures that are released can be directly correlated with the revenue increases that the UFC has had, in which those figures are publilc.

Why would we pity the top combat sport? Your the one trying to discredit it in the hope of making yourself feel better about boxing. Boxings great and it'll always be around dont worry lol

Typical mmGAY fanboy,can't directly respond with a legitimate argument to the post.

If you disagree with me then have the balls to make an argument refuting what I said and the post that I made


If Schaefer's so concerned about the numbers, why doesn't he just pick up the phone and just ask Meltzer?

He pretty much doesn't have anything to hide. He'll share his sources.

It's pretty sad that he has to discredit The Big Ten and PAC 10 just to make himself look cool.


You honestly think that Dave Meltzer has greater inside knowledge on the ppv industry than Richard Schaefer? Or even a bob Arum has?


Did you not read this?


“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”


This was Dana White's response

“Do you think I’m (expletive) crazy?”

Now who do you think has more to hide here? Even Kevin Iole,who is on Zuffa's pay roll has admitted that the ufc buyrates that are reported are merely estimations.




Take a step back and look at the bigger picture, the UFC is outselling boxing by a landslide when you take into account the entire year, and unlike boxing, the UFC's PPV success has been on an upward trend, whereas boxing's PPV success over the same time period have been dropping.


How many PPV's has hbo put out in the year 2009?
Pacquiao vs Hatton,Mayweather vs Marquez,Cotto/Pavlik

Can you name any other examples? I know Winky vs Williams wasn't on PPV,I know Margarito vs Mosley wasn't on PPV,I know Cotto vs Clottey wasn't on PPV

The ufc has put on 10 ppv's in this year alone,what do you expect?




These companies would face harsh penalties for releasing that kind of information. Do you really think they would be risking a possible multi-million dollar lawsuit just for peace of mind?

Doubtful.

Zuffa is a private company,They wouldn't suffer any harsh penalties the way HBO would.

As a private company,Zuffa is not obligated to release legitimate numbers.

You honestly think that Dave Meltzer has greater inside knowledge on the ppv industry than Richard Schaefer? Or even a bob Arum has?




Pretty much, yeah. When 68's numbers went public during the Randy Couture trail, Meltzer nailed it two months before.

All he did was look through public records and asked questions.

Typical mmGAY fanboy,can't directly respond with a legitimate argument to the post.

If you disagree with me then have the balls to make an argument refuting what I said and the post that I made



I wouldn't waste my time, when i know we're right, arguing with someone so immature and sad that they repeatedly use mmgay. Get over it man. UFC numbers are legit, your wasting your time

Now who do you think has more to hide here? Even Kevin Iole,who is on Zuffa's pay roll has admitted that the ufc buyrates that are reported are merely estimations.


Kevin Iole is not on Zuffa's payroll. The UFC and Yahoo Sports are partners, the UFC does not own Yahoo.






How many PPV's has hbo put out in the year 2009?
Pacquiao vs Hatton,Mayweather vs Marquez,Cotto/Pavlik

Can you name any other examples? I know Winky vs Williams wasn't on PPV,I know Margarito vs Mosley wasn't on PPV,I know Cotto vs Clottey wasn't on PPV

The ufc has put on 10 ppv's in this year alone,what do you expect?


It doesn't matter.

They could have 100 PPV's in a year, but the bottom line stays the same.

The UFC is having more success with PPV revenue than the entire sport of boxing. The fact that the UFC has around one PPV event a month, and consistently putting up very solid numbers is a testament to the quality of their product, and the loyalty of their fanbase.






Zuffa is a private company,They wouldn't suffer any harsh penalties the way HBO would.

As a private company,Zuffa is not obligated to release legitimate numbers.

Again, the UFC/Zuffa did not release any numbers.

The figures were obtained by a reputable journalist, with credible sources. You're making it seem like the UFC is releasing these figures in order to toot their own horn, when in reality, Dana White hates that these figures are released along with fighter's salaries.

to bad none of those numbers have even been confirmed bu anyone other then the UFC. Rumor has it UFC100 barely broke the 1M mark.