Who won the fight in your opinion?

I had Lewis winning rounds 1,3,5,6.

VK won rounds 2 and 4 and was en route to getting brutally K.O.'d late in the fight. Lewis was playing Yo-Yo with his head.

If they fought again, Lewis would make a statement. Knocking the lesser fighter out cold. Reality is painful, so lets hear it.

VK was dangerously close to being the biggest disco dancer boxing has ever seen. He was holding on for dear life to Lennox's shoulders.

VK is the man for standing up to those punches. His chin is granite.

i think the first four rounds you could score either way, though VK might just get the nod. 5 and 6 were Lewis, and the momentum was definitely his when the fight ended, although to be fair they both looked ****ed.
The decision to stop was definitely correct, particularly as Lewis would have continued to target the left eye and VK would not have had the defensive skills to stop him.
Personally I believe Lewis wouldve gone on to win, although i accept there is a case for believeing the reverse, but at the end of the day he won fair and square anyway.

IMO i believe quite the contrary and VK would've KO'd him within the next 2 rounds. if u look at the end of the sixth lewis collapsed in his chair and even at the interview he was huffing and puffing

I gave a slight edge to Vitali. It could have possibly been a draw, some of those rounds were close.

i had it 58-56
VK first 2
lewis 3rd
VK 4th n 5th (5th close)
and 6th for lewis
if they fought now who would win?

IMO i believe quite the contrary and VK would've KO'd him within the next 2 rounds. if u look at the end of the sixth lewis collapsed in his chair and even at the interview he was huffing and puffing
Very good points! Vitali would've KO'd Lewis in the 7th round.

I had it 3-2-1 for Vitali. Everyone thinks that Klitschko had Lewis ****ed and would have KO'd him in the next round...which is bull****. Lewis was still landing bombs (5/6 round uppercuts anyone) and Vitali was hurt for a short time. I think it would have been close until the next couple of big shots landed for either guy. If Lewis landed 2 more hard rights I think Klit would have been in trouble and the same goes the other way.

I am soo sick of this fight. It was one of the least important but most controversial fights ever. I don't care who would have won, I'm just pissed they didn't do it again so we would have a winner.

i think vitali was lucky the fight was stopped. he would of been ko!

Vitali 1-2-3-6
Lewis 4-5

I think Vitali was winning and ultimately would have won.

The Lewis out of shape theory is just a B.S. excuse for his poor performance. The fact is, he was just getting beat.

Having said that, they stopped the fight right about where they should have. Vitali's eye was pretty bad and could have caused permanent damage.

The problem with this story is Lennox's refusal to rematch Vitali leaving many of us to question if he still belonged as HW champ. After all, he was loosing on the cards. I don't think Lewis would have survived a rematch and I think he knew it.

Who won the fight in your opinion?
1,3,5,6.
I had Lewis winning rounds

VK won rounds 2 and 4 and was en route to getting brutally K.O.'d late in the fight. Lewis was playing Yo-Yo with his head.

If they fought again, Lewis would make a statement. Knocking the lesser fighter out cold. Reality is painful, so lets hear it.

VK was dangerously close to being the biggest disco dancer boxing has ever seen. He was holding on for dear life to Lennox's shoulders.

VK is the man for standing up to those punches. His chin is granite.

You think LL won 1.3.5.6. In the first LL was heavily outboxed.HAHAHAHAHAHAH.

No offence but that scoring was hilarious.

1round 10-9 to vk
2round 10-9 vk i could actually been 10-8 since LL walked around the ring like an old drunk for half the round after VKs punches.
3round LL comes back and cuts him (with the edge of the glove)10-9 to LL
4round 10-9 to vk.
5round 10-9 to LL. Lands som good punches, including his uppercut from hell.
6round 10-9 to vk Allthough LL land more of his devil uppercuts, vk lands more and cuts his nose.

SO 58-56 to VK

Check the judges scorecard they see it the same way.
Vk had more gas left, LL retired on his stol like a sack of potatoes puffing like a train.

Had this went on VK would have knocked him ou in the 3 next rounds.

If LL was sure he won and would beat in a rematch, why di you think he retired from the enormous salary??????????????

I still find it hard to not criticise VK for quitting against Byrd though. I suppose he redeemed himself in this fight. That was a gutsy effort, by a game fighter.

He had a badly torn rotator cuff injury in his left shoulder that required surgery, and it happened in round 4. I'm not sure if you've ever torn a rotator cuff, but I have, and the pain is esquisite. Not only that, but if you continue to abuse the injured shoulder, you can damage it enough that it can't be completely repaired through sugery (again...speaking from experience here). A good example is Golotta...he used to have a really sweet jab...strong, and he used it often. Have you noticed that the jab is no longer there? That's because his shoulder injury couldn't be repaired completely by surgery. Klitchko still has his jab because he didn't ruin it by continuing to abuse it. It was the right decision, though I'm sure many will disagree. There's no point, in my opinion, in risking a chance of future competition to pull out the win on a single fight.

I am soo sick of this fight. It was one of the least important but most controversial fights ever. I don't care who would have won, I'm just pissed they didn't do it again so we would have a winner.

There was a winner...Lewis. A TKO from cuts is a legitimate win. Lewis was probably lucky it happened this way, but the fight was spectacular no matter how you view it. I watch it often myself, just because it was a great fight between two huge guys slugging it out. I'd actually go so far as to say it was the best heavyweight fight I've seen in 15 years, and I've actually made a few new boxing fans by showing them that fight.

dont even bother stickman, the bias of runw/kvines is so funny he hates klitschko so much and bows at the feet of his god lewis he talks out of his ass, im surprised he didnt give round 2 to lewis imo. guys lewis never landed a single overhand right that was in any sort effetive. if he couldnt ko vitali with them uppercuts in round 5 or 6 what makes u think he would done so later. now they stop is legit although the punch wasnt clean it was still a punch and i have no reason to argue that the fight has stopped due to a cut and lewis has a W on the record.

I am soo sick of this fight. It was one of the least important but most controversial fights ever. I don't care who would have won, I'm just pissed they didn't do it again so we would have a winner.

Well blame Lewis for that cause I know I sure do! ;)

most ppl would agree that it would've went either way if it kep going, or VK would've won
so very close
but in rematch KLITCHKO

Bernard Hopkins suffered a "dislocated shoulder" In the 6th round of the Echols fight. He continued to fight.

Recieving punishment on a dislocated shoulder is worse than a "rotator cuff". Bernard was blocking punches with the hurt shoulder, obviously wearing out the socket.

That is a matter of heart my friend. That injury VK incurred was far from career ending. B-Hops' was physiologically threatenting. he could have pinched a nerve, or something.

As for Gatti, well....everyone knows the broken hand story.


your joking, u just pop your shoulder back into place, no surgery or anything

your joking, u just pop your shoulder back into place, no surgery or anything

In the middle of the fight?

That injury requires medical attention.

This aint no "Mel Gibson" in Leathal Weapon ****. Where he dislocates his shoulder to get out of the straightjacket.

That is a myth. It requires several people to do it also.

Lewis won the fight. This is both fact and opinion.

IF it was a six-rounder, Vitali would have won 4 rounds to 2 for being busier and making more contact (although without much effect other than in the 2nd). At the stoppage though, Vitali wasn't showing anything more than pepper shots at Lewis, whereas Lewis was almost removing Vitali's head on the occaisional power shot or two. Lewis's stamina didn't look to go from the opening bell, but his very slow pace included those occaisional monster shots, including late in the 6th. Vitali would get very tired in the 7th and 8th, late in those rounds for sure, and he would have got caught again by a big upper cut or right hand thrown by that very slow paced but powerful opponent. It wouldn't be pretty either, 'cause Vit would start loosing sight in his left eye due to blood and due to the flap of steak blocking his view, so the right hand of Lennox would be a "didn't see it coming" type of shot that dropped the Ukranian for good.

This bit of fiction is not required though, since Lewis won the fight. He might as well have been knocked out by Lewis, 'cause he LOST and Lewis has left the building for good. Vitali was/is still determined to get the rematch though because he realizes that his Legacy can only be built on wins, not loss/stoppages.

Vitali has not yet beat a serious Heavyweight contender. His Legacy is being built on wins over fat Sanders, Kentucky Fried Johnson, a balance-challenged Williams and the loss to Lewis. Vitali's not gonna prove much to anybody until he starts getting dominating wins over true contenders/Champs. Vitali's also not gonna' get much respect until he actually faces a challenge other than that cut handed to him by Lewis.

In the middle of the fight?

That injury requires medical attention.

That is a myth. It requires several people to do it also.
RUN ... my left shoulder has been a plague since I was kid on the playground. The ball (arm) can be literraly pulled out of the joint (shoulder) , but will almost always slide back in again with a little wiggle or two.

It hurts and I wouldn't recommend that you try it at home, but it's not Movie Stuff.

The fact remains the same. Klitschko has about a 93.5% KO ratio (37fights/34ko's), The WBC championship belt, and has never been behind on the score cards at the end of any of his fights including his two losses to Lewis and Byrd. That's more than Lewis, Byrd, Ruiz, or any other current top HW can say.

Isn't that what we are looking for in a Champion?

No one questions the fact that Lewis won the fight, but many of us question whether or not Lewis earned the win. Lewis was loosing on the cards and won the fight by cuts. A cut occurs by chance, the chances may be greater in some instances than others, but chance non the less. In other words, Lewis got lucky or has really sharp gloves. That's why there was such an outcry for a rematch.

IMO - Only a Lewis fan would dismiss the fact that all three judges had Lewis loosing by 2to1 on the scorecards and doesn't think there should have been a rematch.

I had 5-1 Vitali with Lewis only winning round 6.

I am soo sick of this fight. It was one of the least important but most controversial fights ever. I don't care who would have won, I'm just pissed they didn't do it again so we would have a winner.


What you mean they? Vitali was willing and begging for a rematch.

Who won the fight in your opinion?

I had Lewis winning rounds 1,3,5,6.

VK won rounds 2 and 4 and was en route to getting brutally K.O.'d late in the fight. Lewis was playing Yo-Yo with his head.

If they fought again, Lewis would make a statement. Knocking the lesser fighter out cold. Reality is painful, so lets hear it.

VK was dangerously close to being the biggest disco dancer boxing has ever seen. He was holding on for dear life to Lennox's shoulders.

VK is the man for standing up to those punches. His chin is granite.

Are you serious that scoring is the most horrible that I witnessed from the Lewis Klitschko fight. The best Lewis could've done, and this being generous to him was 3 rounds a piece. I had it scored 5 rounds to 1 with Vitali ahead. He outlanded Lewis in every single round and outworked him.

Bernard Hopkins suffered a "dislocated shoulder" In the 6th round of the Echols fight. He continued to fight.

Recieving punishment on a dislocated shoulder is worse than a "rotator cuff". Bernard was blocking punches with the hurt shoulder, obviously wearing out the socket.

That is a matter of heart my friend. That injury VK incurred was far from career ending. B-Hops' was physiologically threatenting. he could have pinched a nerve, or something.

As for Gatti, well....everyone knows the broken hand story.


Are you stupid? A torn rotator cuff is 3 times worse than a dislocated shoulder. A dislocated shoulder doesnt require surgery, do you even know what the hell your talking about?

Bernard Hopkins suffered a "dislocated shoulder" In the 6th round of the Echols fight. He continued to fight.

Recieving punishment on a dislocated shoulder is worse than a "rotator cuff". Bernard was blocking punches with the hurt shoulder, obviously wearing out the socket.

That is a matter of heart my friend. That injury VK incurred was far from career ending. B-Hops' was physiologically threatenting. he could have pinched a nerve, or something.

As for Gatti, well....everyone knows the broken hand story.
A dislocated shoulder isn't the same as tearing the rotator cuff. The dislocation is simply that...the ball popping out of the socket, and back in. It's painful for a short while, but it goes away fairly soon, and if no soft tissue was seriously damaged, it's better within a couple of weeks.

And a broken hand isn't as painful as a torn shoulder. Had both, know the difference. I worked 4 days with a fractured hand once because I didn't have the time to take off, and the job had to be finished (weather).

Soft tissue damage to the shoulder, however, can be permanent if it's bad enough, and abused enough. It can't be repaired like a fracture. You can't "fix" soft tissue if it's torn bad enough. He made the right choice, though many people who've never worked in a job where injuries are common probably won't ever realise this.

I had 5-1 Vitali with Lewis only winning round 6.
I had it 4-2 Klitchko...gave Lewis 3 and 6. I disagree with the guy above who said Lewis was looking better. He looked like he was about to drop at the end of 6, and whatever anybody wants go think, a 37 year old fighter who's not in peak condition (and Lewis wasn't) does NOT "get better in late rounds"....he's going to fade, and Lewis was beginning to do just that. Had the cuts not been opened I think he'd have been in seriously deep **** by the middle or end of 7. Klitchko is younger, in better shape, and was able to recover much more in between rounds than Lewis.

I should also add that I'm NOT a Klitchko "nuthugger", as some would call a big Klitchko fan. I like the guy, he's exciting and that's what I want in a heavyweight, but I'm not likely to want to blow the guy anytime soon. And I had a fair amount of money on Lewis in that fight (almost shat myself in round 2) because having never seen Klitchko in an entire fight (just clips), I felt he was too clumsy to even be a challenge to Lewis. Boy was I wrong :D

Oh please.

for the fight time's sake,
did Vitali "know" he had a deteriorating rotator cuff? If so, why did he enter the fight?

You do not just tear the cuff, and then perform self diagnosis jackoff.

A dislocated shoulder is worse. It requires medical attention.
WTF are you talking about? Stop watching television. Dislocated shoulder is worse for the time being.
"meaning it is out of socket".
someone has to place it back in the ****ing socket.

Get off of Vitali's balls while you are at it ****face.
anyone who thinks a "rotator cuff" injury is worse than a dislocated joint.....is a ****ing idiot. You have ZERO CONTROL OVER THE RANGE OF MOTION.

Another thing dumass:
Your arm has to be immobilized after it is dislocated.
a simple trip to the surgeon fixes a "bull**** Rotator cuff".

If I had any Karma left, and could: I would dissaprove of that post 20 times, because you accuse me of not knowing:
When you know dick. Nothing worse than hating on something you know nothing about.


dude klitschko is a ****ing doctor of corse he knew u idiot whne u tear a mussle in your body your gonna feel it, hopkins dislocated his shoulder big deal pop it back in, it aint so serious ****, it aint career ending

Was he prepared to perform surgery on himself in the ring?

and he is a

PHD. in sports/nutrition Science

not an MD. You ****ing moron.


he has medical background u idiot and in sports i think he knows what a injury is


btw i notice u got 10M points , when i logged on today i had 10M also think its for the torrent and fight work he do on boxing downloads? or did everyone get 10M

Oh please.

for the fight time's sake,
did Vitali "know" he had a deteriorating rotator cuff? If so, why did he enter the fight?

You do not just tear the cuff, and then perform self diagnosis jackoff.

A dislocated shoulder is worse. It requires medical attention.
WTF are you talking about? Stop watching television. Dislocated shoulder is worse for the time being.
"meaning it is out of socket".
someone has to place it back in the ****ing socket.

Get off of Vitali's balls while you are at it ****face.
anyone who thinks a "rotator cuff" injury is worse than a dislocated joint.....is a ****ing idiot. You have ZERO CONTROL OVER THE RANGE OF MOTION.

Another thing dumass:
Your arm has to be immobilized after it is dislocated.
a simple trip to the surgeon fixes a "bull**** Rotator cuff".

If I had any Karma left, and could: I would dissaprove of that post 20 times, because you accuse me of not knowing:
When you know dick. Nothing worse than hating on something you know nothing about.


You have no information whatsover. You have no idea what the hell your talking about. Vitali sustained his torn rotator cuff in round 3 when he fought Byrd. His shoulder was perfectly fine going into the fight.

Jackass if a dislocated shoulder needs medical attention and a torn rotator cuff needs surgery tell me which is worsE? You are clueless and are further making yourself look like a dubmass with your stupid antics. Quit while your ahead, no one is agreeing with you, because every single person knows that a torn rotator cuff is worse than a pulled shoulder, only idiots such as yourself argue over that.

Hey, just in case anybody is interested i just uploaded this fight in the torrents section.

dando why the hell did u bump this threard

the thread is about the lewis vs klitschko fight; i thought it might help people who hadn't seen the fight who are looking at this to know that i had uploaded it and am currently seedin it. i was just trying to be helpful man, don't see why you'd want to protect this thread like it was your anal virginity

dando why the hell did u bump this threard
probly wants to get into the download section

probly wants to get into the download section
i'm already there, see my ****ty torrents ratio? just trying to fix that and thought somebody might want the fight

the thread is about the lewis vs klitschko fight; i thought it might help people who hadn't seen the fight who are looking at this to know that i had uploaded it and am currently seedin it. i was just trying to be helpful man, don't see why you'd want to protect this thread like it was your anal virginity

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Vitali was tearing Lewis up, Lewis was really tired and got wobbled a number of times, if not the cut Klitschko woulda KO him within the next 3 rounds. I hate when people say Lewis was outta shape and unprepared thats all bull****t he is a prize fighter who gets paid damn good to come out there and fight, if he was loosing why dont people just realize and not say **** like he was outta shape or whatever cause thas all bull****t, Klitschko was clearly winning the fight and took Lewsises punches well and clearly had more stamina then Lewis and if this fight wasnt gonna be stopped due to the cut Vitali woulda done the same **** he did to Corrie Sanders or would have gone on a tare like Kali Meehan was doing to Brewster when the fight should have clearly been stopped instead Brewster gotta bull****t decision...

Lennox won. He was beginning to demolish Vit when it was stopped. Please ... all this "he woulda", "he mighta" stuff is good for discussion but any fans here who've been around boxing awhile know that though he may have won, it's all moot.

There are points in nearly every fight that the outcome is in doubt or is influenced to the detriment of each fighter and Vit had a terrible cut in addition to the heavy blows he was absorbing more and more frequently.

IMO, the most likely outcome if it went the distance was that Lennox would collapse in exhaustion ... but that isn't to imply Vit has ever been the true equal of Lennox Lewis in the ring.

Look at Vitali's mouth..He would have injured him even more!Lennox would have eventually KO him.Keep in mind that this was Lewis out of shape once again in a big fight.An in shape Lewis would have blasted him in 4 rounds!

If I'm not mistaken, Vitali won the 1st and 2nd round on all 3 of the judges scorecards, the 3rd on 1 scorecard, the 4th on 2 scorecards, the 5th 1 scorecard, and the 6th on 2 scorecards.

well i have always been a fan of lewis.with that been said i had vit winning rounds 1-4 and LL winning rounds 5-6.lewis was landing some good shot at the end of the fight and it was getting to vit.i think another 1-2 rounds would have seen the first time would have been on the canvas.and to the guy saying that lewis was not out of shape.come on dude did you actually watch the fight.lewis has never been that out of breath in any of his previous fights.anyone can plainly see that he was not in the best shape.and if there would have been a rematch i think LL would have destroyed vit in 7 rounds.when LL fought and had a rematch with the 2 guys that KOed him (mccall and rahman)he totally devastated them.that leads me to the reason of thinking LL would take vit out in a rematch.and i think the stoppage was legit.how would yall vit lovers had liked to see yalls fighter with his eyeball hanging out and never being able to fight again.

well i have always been a fan of lewis.with that been said i had vit winning rounds 1-4 and LL winning rounds 5-6.lewis was landing some good shot at the end of the fight and it was getting to vit.i think another 1-2 rounds would have seen the first time would have been on the canvas.and to the guy saying that lewis was not out of shape.come on dude did you actually watch the fight.lewis has never been that out of breath in any of his previous fights.anyone can plainly see that he was not in the best shape.and if there would have been a rematch i think LL would have destroyed vit in 7 rounds.when LL fought and had a rematch with the 2 guys that KOed him (mccall and rahman)he totally devastated them.that leads me to the reason of thinking LL would take vit out in a rematch.and i think the stoppage was legit.how would yall vit lovers had liked to see yalls fighter with his eyeball hanging out and never being able to fight again.
get the hell outta here wit that ****, Klitschko hit Lewis wit some good shots and Lewis was hurt and wobbly, Klitschko clearly had more stamina. Lewis was dropped few times in his career and Klitschko hasnt been knocked down yet, Lewis lost to a bum like Rahman who got beat by Johny Ruiz and clearly showed that he cant take a punch in the Rahman fight. If your boy knew he was gonna beat Klitschko why didint he fight him again and wussied out like a lil trick, coulda got his ass beat and made a lotta money. And as for the poutta shape **** he is a prize fighter whos paid to fight doesnt matter if he was outta shape it was all a big excuse for the poor showing he put on.

Look at Vitali's mouth..He would have injured him even more!Lennox would have eventually KO him.Keep in mind that this was Lewis out of shape once again in a big fight.An in shape Lewis would have blasted him in 4 rounds!Some of the worst bull****t excuses I have ever heard...

get the hell outta here wit that ****, Klitschko hit Lewis wit some good shots and Lewis was hurt and wobbly, Klitschko clearly had more stamina. Lewis was dropped few times in his career and Klitschko hasnt been knocked down yet, Lewis lost to a bum like Rahman who got beat by Johny Ruiz and clearly showed that he cant take a punch in the Rahman fight. If your boy knew he was gonna beat Klitschko why didint he fight him again and wussied out like a lil trick, coulda got his ass beat and made a lotta money. And as for the poutta shape **** he is a prize fighter whos paid to fight doesnt matter if he was outta shape it was all a big excuse for the poor showing he put on.


dude i can tell you dont know what the hell you are talking about by the bull**** you spew outta your piehole.yea and if rahman and a punk like mccall KOed lewis why didnt miss vit with all the power that yall says he has couldnt KO lewis.he hit lewis with everything that he had and still couldnt put lewis on the mat.that means that your punk boy dont hit as hard as mccall..lewis had planned on retireing after the tyson fight but he stuck around so that he could beat yalls hype boy vit.and he did just that ..he sliced vits face like hamburgar meat.

I personally think Lewis would've KO'd Vitali in Round 7 or 8, just because of the big power shots he was landing in 5 and 6, even in his fatigued state. BTW, at the end of Round 6 when Lewis sits down, Manny Steward says "This is your fight now, baby", and it sounds like Lewis says "Yeah, I got it", but it could be the cutman too. What do you guys think?

look i never give vit much credit.but i give him credit for bringing the fight to lewis.i had him winning the fight up till the forth round.then lewis started landing shot after shot.i think lewis didnt think vit was to much and didnt go into the fight with strong conditioning.vit surprised lewis being being as strong as he was.but lewis was starting to land big time.i think he had figured out vits style.i honestly believe that lewis would have finished vit in the 7th or 8th round.i dont give vit to much credit after the fight because the HW division is left with B-level and C-level fighters.but vits fans make these guys that he beat as if they were some of the best heavyweights to ever walk into the ring.until we have some real talent in the division ,he is always gonna be an average fighter to me.

If people believed Lewis was winning the fight, they wouldn't be saying he was out of shape. It's the fact that he was loosing that people have to make excuses for him. The truth is, Vitali was beating him regardless of Lewis's condition.

Lewis was a great boxer and beat all the best of his generation. He beat Vitali by way of some freak lacerations. Lewis cut him by chance. You can't say he cut him on purpose, Lewis had gloves on his hands and would punch the same way regardless. How do you cut someone intentionally when your wearing boxing gloves? Hence Lewis got lucky.

As for what would have happened in later rounds, we will never know. I for one think that Vitali would have knocked Lewis out. The cuts left Vitali few options.

Also you can't blame Vitali for fighting who's available. If the heavyweight division is weak, than I ask who left the division that made it weak? It's not Vitali's fault Forman got old, or Holyfield washed up, or Lewis retired........well....Maybe you can blame him for that. Lets just hope he fights more than once a year like Lewis did. So far, he is.

1st of all,

Asking people who won this fight and encouraging them to post their scores only inforces all the delusional Vitali nut huggers to get worked up.

The #1 piece of non sense the Klitschko fanatics bring up in regards to this fight was that Vitali was up on points.

Points have NOTHING to do with a fight that's STOPPED as a TECHNICAL KNOCK OUT.

Vitali did well early on, but Lennox elected to slug it out.

After 4 or 5 rounds, Vitali had suffered 5 seperate cuts (the worst being above his left eye, one under his left eye, one on his upper lip, one on his lower lip, and one in the roof of his mouth). The total was somewhere between 60-80 stitches.

Klitschko did better than anyone expected he would, and fought admirably, but the end result was his face sustaining so much damage from a result of Lennox Lewis' punches that the doctor was forced to stop the fight.


There is NO QUESTION who won this fight:

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and anyone that wants to desperatly squabble about the scoring in a SIX round fight that was STOPPED is desperatly trying to hold on to something.

If people believed Lewis was winning the fight, they wouldn't be saying he was out of shape. It's the fact that he was loosing that people have to make excuses for him. The truth is, Vitali was beating him regardless of Lewis's condition.

Lewis was a great boxer and beat all the best of his generation. He beat Vitali by way of some freak lacerations. Lewis cut him by chance. You can't say he cut him on purpose, Lewis had gloves on his hands and would punch the same way regardless. How do you cut someone intentionally when your wearing boxing gloves? Hence Lewis got lucky.

As for what would have happened in later rounds, we will never know. I for one think that Vitali would have knocked Lewis out. The cuts left Vitali few options.

Also you can't blame Vitali for fighting who's available. If the heavyweight division is weak, than I ask who left the division that made it weak? It's not Vitali's fault Forman got old, or Holyfield washed up, or Lewis retired........well....Maybe you can blame him for that. Lets just hope he fights more than once a year like Lewis did. So far, he is.


look i always said that it wasnt vits fault that the HW division is so weak.it just is.nobodys fault at all.and you actually believe that a person cant be cut by a punch with a boxing glove on..how long have you been watching boxing 1 month?when you throw a punch you always twist your hand at the end of you punch.if you time it just right when the glove touches the face and turn your punch,9 times out of 10 you will cut your oppont.its the first thing they teach you in a boxing gym,is how to turn your punch over.so your logic that lewis cut vit by a freak chance is crazy talk.and you can clearly see that lewis wasnt in his usual conditioning.he never winds out that early in a fight.never.i think he didnt train hard cuz he thought that he would walk all over vit.i give vit credit for fighting lewis as good as he di.but you can tell that lewis was turning the fight around.we will never know how it would have ended.but we can give our opinions.and my opinion was that vit was gonnna go down in either the 7 or 8 round.but you know what they say about opinions,,,they are like *******s ,everybody has one.

1st of all,

Asking people who won this fight and encouraging them to post their scores only inforces all the delusional Vitali nut huggers to get worked up.

The #1 piece of non sense the Klitschko fanatics bring up in regards to this fight was that Vitali was up on points.

Points have NOTHING to do with a fight that's STOPPED as a TECHNICAL KNOCK OUT.

Vitali did well early on, but Lennox elected to slug it out.

After 4 or 5 rounds, Vitali had suffored 5 seperate cuts (the worst being above his left eye, one under his left eye, one on his upper lip, one on his lower lip, and one in the roof of his mouth). The total was somewhere between 60-80 stitches.

Klitschko did better than anyone expected he would, and foght admirably, but the end result was his face sustaining so much damage from a result of Lennox Lewis' punches that the doctor was forced to stop the fight.


There is NO QUESTION who one this fight:

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and anyone that wants to desperatly squabble about the scoring in a SIX round fight that was STOPPED is desperatly trying to hold on to something.

Looks like he bumped into the edge of a ****in roadside explosive device!

Who was it that said, "his face looked like it was sliding off his skull"?

If people believed Lewis was winning the fight, they wouldn't be saying he was out of shape. It's the fact that he was loosing that people have to make excuses for him. The truth is, Vitali was beating him regardless of Lewis's condition.

Lewis was a great boxer and beat all the best of his generation. He beat Vitali by way of some freak lacerations. Lewis cut him by chance. You can't say he cut him on purpose, Lewis had gloves on his hands and would punch the same way regardless. How do you cut someone intentionally when your wearing boxing gloves? Hence Lewis got lucky.

As for what would have happened in later rounds, we will never know. I for one think that Vitali would have knocked Lewis out. The cuts left Vitali few options.

Also you can't blame Vitali for fighting who's available. If the heavyweight division is weak, than I ask who left the division that made it weak? It's not Vitali's fault Forman got old, or Holyfield washed up, or Lewis retired........well....Maybe you can blame him for that. Lets just hope he fights more than once a year like Lewis did. So far, he is.



Leave it to this FOOL to drop all this non sense.

1. Points don't mean ANYTHING when a fight is stopped because one fighter's face looks like a bloody meat pie.

2. Winning BEFORE you LOSE also doesn't mean ANYTHING.

3. These cuts:
<img src=http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6038/vitaliklitschko27my.jpg>

Were not the result of luck, chance, or freak occurances.

They were caused by continued power shots in a slug fest.

Lennox Lewis landed 50 % of his power punches in this fight.

You need to learn to DEAL WITH THIS.

You are one of the WORST people on this forum for being delusional about Vitali's two losses.

There's NOTHING to argue about here.

Vitali Klitschko LOST this fight. PERIOD.

First, I don't know who's arguing the fact that lewis won. And I didn't mention points.

Second, I never said you couldn't cut someone by a punch when you are wearing a glove. I said you can't punch someone with the intention of cutting them deliberately while you are wearing a glove. When you are whearing a glove, cuts happen by chance. Once your opponent is cut, then you can make it worse.

Third, to say they teach you to turn your fist to cause a cut is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I must have missed that day or they only taught that to the slow guys.

First, I don't know who's arguing the fact that lewis won. And I didn't mention points.

Second, I never said you couldn't cut someone by a punch when you are wearing a glove. I said you can't punch someone with the intention of cutting them deliberately while you are wearing a glove. When you are whearing a glove, cuts happen by chance. Once your opponent is cut, then you can make it worse.

Third, to say they teach you to turn your fist to cause a cut is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I must have missed that day or they only taught that to the slow guys.


Why even bring up "luck" in regards to those cutS?

Lewis landed 50% of his power punches.

That was what ultimatly won him the fight.

There was nothing 'lucky' about Lewis deciding to slug it out and landing heavy shots that ripped Vitali's face open in several spots.

They both were slugging, it was a war, Lewis is the heavier puncher, and he tore Vitali's face up.

It was OBVIOUS Lewis landed the harder more telling shots. This was completely evident in the condition of Vitali's face, which was so bad it looked like he was in some terrible car accident.

Actually you do punch someone with the intention of cutting them...thats one of your intentions at least...to make your opponent lose in any way possible. Cuts are a strategic plus in a fight and can really hamper how well a fighter fights. Im sure that any fighter would settle on winning a TKO by way of cuts that were caused by multiple power punches to the face.

Why even bring up "luck" in regards to those cutS

Once again, because you can't control if your opponent gets cut. Unless Lewis wore his "Sharp Gloves" that day.

And I never questioned Lewis's power punches.

First, I don't know who's arguing the fact that lewis won. And I didn't mention points.

Second, I never said you couldn't cut someone by a punch when you are wearing a glove. I said you can't punch someone with the intention of cutting them deliberately while you are wearing a glove. When you are whearing a glove, cuts happen by chance. Once your opponent is cut, then you can make it worse.

Third, to say they teach you to turn your fist to cause a cut is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. I must have missed that day or they only taught that to the slow guys.

yea you must have missed it because that is one of the first thing that they teach you in a boxing gym.you have you hands up .right hand close to your right side of your cheek and your left by your left side but a lil farther from your face.and when you whip out a jab or right hand you keep the punch just like you had it before then right at the end of your punch you turn it over.that is the basic idiot.and everytime you throw a punch you are trying to damage the guy you are fighting.so yes you are to intentionally trying to cut or hurt your opponent.unless you were taught to pitty pat.either you are to stupid to understand this or is it that you are really that dumb.

Once again, because you can't control if your opponent gets cut. Unless Lewis wore his "Sharp Gloves" that day.

And I never questioned Lewis's power punches.


What does controll have to do with it?

Vicious cuts are the result of violent punching.

Vitali, like Lewis, was slugging it out.

Slugging it out with a pucher like Lewis, and eating 50% of his power punches, is a good way to get your face looking like this:

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There was nothing 'lucky' about it.

and when you whip out a jab or right hand you keep the punch just like you had it before then right at the end of your punch you turn it over.

You turn your fist as a result of completing the punching motion. It's for optimal power, not to cause a cut. The "snap of the elbow".

You are deliberately twisting what is taught or you have no training at all. Most likely the later.

What does controll have to do with it?

Vicious cuts are the result of violent punching.

Vitali, like Lewis, was slugging it out.

Slugging it out with a pucher like Lewis, and eating 50% of his power punches, is a good way to get your face looking like this:

<img src=http://foto.nw-news.de/i/fotostrecke2/big/6434.jpeg>

There was nothing 'lucky' about it.
You are Jose.

I dont understand why people cried robbery. That fight was a clear victory for Lennox. If not...you are in denial because you are a Vitali Klitschko fan. The last thing VK needs is a rematch with Lewis....because if he came out of retirement...he would knock him out in 3 or 4 rounds. Lewis is the better fighter...and had an off night. On a good night...he knocks the lesser fighter out.

You punch to KO... not to cut. A cut may be the result, causing a TKO. But you don't punch to cut.

And completely aside from the discussion about the Vitali Lewis fight, you commented people don't throw shots with the intention of cutting someone.

You couldn't be more wrong.

I suggest you watch some of Ali's early fights.

Ali got decked by Henry Cooper

<img src=http://www.legends-online.com/acatalog/henry-cooper.jpg>

Ali was in all kinds of trouble, and came out a round later throwing vicious shots with the intention of cutting Cooper up:

<img src=http://www.geocities.com/retratoali/ring3/cooper6.jpg>



But that has nothing to do with the Lewis Klitschko fight, where Lewis didn't have the intention of cutting him.

Lewis had the intention of hitting him, and landing at 50% with his power punches resulted in the horrid condition of Vitali's face, thus winning him the fight.

You turn your fist as a result of completing the punching motion. It's for optimal power, not to cause a cut. The "snap if the elbow".

You are deliberately twisting what is taught or you have no training at all. Most likely the later.


you are kinda correct.you do it for optimal power but also to try and cause a cut.if you land a punch at the end of a punch the leather on your glove catches the other person skin and a cut will happen.common sense dude.and i bet i have way more exp then your .i fought 6 years amateur.won 4 golden gloves 3 silver gloves 4 usa/abf and 3 jr. olymipics.also i won a couple of regional tournaments.i also currently a boxing coach also.so i think i know a lil more on the subject then you.you are just mad because lewis screwed up your boys face.

you are kinda correct.you do it for optimal power but also to try and cause a cut.if you land a punch at the end of a punch the leather on your glove catches the other person skin and a cut will happen.common sense dude..

That's what I said... It's chance...Luck

You punch to KO... not to cut. A cut may be the result, causing a TKO. But you don't punch to cut.


And your point is?

Do you even know?

You said several times Lewis was "lucky" he caused those cuts.

That's absolute non sense.

Lewis kept punching, landed 50% of his power shots, and the condition of Vitali's face was a direct result of his heavy punching.

Get over it already.

And your point is?


It wasn't deliberate .....It was Luck. that's my point Jose

It wasn't deliberate .....It was Luck. that's my point Jose


You're an idiot, and you've made yourself look even more foolish than usual.

I will say it again, there was nothing 'lucky' about Lennox Lewis landing 50% of his power shots resuting in Vitali's face looking like this:

<img src=http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6038/vitaliklitschko27my.jpg>


They were both slugging, Lewis is the bigger puncher, and his punches and high connect rate in a war resulted in Vitali's face looking like hamburger.

You just keep telling yourself Vitali's face ended up like this:
<img src=http://foto.nw-news.de/i/fotostrecke2/big/6434.jpeg>
Because Lewis was 'lucky'.

It's unbelievable how childish and delusional you and your nut hugging legion are.

It's unbelievable how childish and delusional you and your nut hugging legion are.

Yeah I know. Its getting out of hand. Especially when people are going to have to deal with the "VK.....All Time Great?" thread that I am afraid of.

You're an idiot, and you've made yourself look even more foolish than usual.

I will say it again, there was nothing 'lucky' about Lennox Lewis landing 50% of his power shots resuting in Vitali's face looking like this:

<img src=http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6038/vitaliklitschko27my.jpg>


They were both slugging, Lewis is the bigger puncher, and his punches and high connect rate in a war resulted in Vitali's face looking like hamburger.

You just keep telling yourself Vitali's face ended up like this:

Because Lewis was 'lucky'.

It's unbelievable how childish you and your nut hugging legion are.

This is getting comical Jose.

You can't except the fact that Lewis won the fight on cuts, that happend by chance, while he was trying to KO Vitali.

YOU are the Lewis nuthugger, Lewis winning isn't enough for you, You have to deny the laws of physics and beleive that Lewis has some magical cut punch.

lololol!

This is getting comical Jose.

You can't except the fact that Lewis won the fight on cuts, that happend by chance, while he was trying to KO Vitali.

YOU are the Lewis nuthugger, Lewis winning isn't enough for you, You have to deny the laws of physics and beleive that Lewis has some magical cut punch.

lololol!

Believe me, your comments and thoughts were comical long before I showed up.


I could care less about Lewis.

But that doesn't change the fact you can't accept the fact that his punches are what busted Vitali's face up.

Once again, keep telling yourself Lewis landing 50% of his power shots making Vitali's face look like this:
<img src=http://foto.nw-news.de/i/fotostrecke2/big/6432.jpeg>
was 'chance'.

Lewis was trying to hurt Vitali in a fight where they were both slugging.

And he did hurt him to the tune of 5 cuts for 60-80 stitches.

There was nothing 'lucky' about it.

He landed at a high percentage, and that was reflected in the condition of Vitali's face.

Why is this so hard for you to come to grips with?

Believe me, your comments and thoughts were comical long before I showed up.


I could care less about Lewis.

But that doesn't change the fact you can't accept the fact that his punches are what busted Vitali's face up.

Once again, keep telling yourself Lewis landing 50% of his power shots making Vitali's face look like this:
<img src=http://foto.nw-news.de/i/fotostrecke2/big/6432.jpeg>
was 'chance'.

Lewis was trying to hurt Vitali in a fight where they were both slugging.

And he did hurt him to the tune of 5 cuts for 60-80 stitches.

There was nothing 'lucky' about it.

He landed at a high percentage, and that was reflected in the condition of Vitali's face.


Why is this so hard for you to come to grips with?
My argument isn't that punches didn't cut Vitali. You know it or your stupid.
How the hell else did the cuts happen you schmuck!
My argument is the cuts weren't intentional.
Can you say Lewis intended to cut Vitali, NO he was trying to Knock him out and the cuts/TKO were a result.

Idiot

My argument isn't that punches didn't cut Vitali. You know it or your stupid.
How the hell else did the cuts happen you schmuck!
My argument is the cuts weren't intentional.
Can you say Lewis intended to cut Vitali, NO he was trying to Knock him out and the cuts/TKO were a result.

Idiot


YOU'RE the idiot.

The INTENT was to hurt.

Big punchers punch to HURT.

Vitali showed great heart and chin in taking some big shots, but in the end, when you slug it out with a puncher of Lewis' callibur, and allow him to land at 50% of his power shots,

it's not 'chance' that your face gets beaten to a bloody pulp.

All you're doing is trying to hold on to a tiny shred of something to make yourself feel better about it.

There was no 'luck' involved in the high percentage of power shots Lewis landed on Vitali's face resulting in it looking like hamburger and causing a stoppage.

DEAL WITH IT.

YOU'RE the idiot.

The INTENT was to hurt.

Big punchers punch to HURT.

Vitali showed great heart and chin in taking some big shots, but in the end, when you slug it out with a puncher of Lewis' callibur, and allow him to land at 50% of his power shots,

it's not 'chance' that your face gets beaten to a bloody pulp.

All you're doing is trying to hold on to a tiny shred of something to make yourself feel better about it.

There was no 'luck' involved in the high percentage of power shots Lewis landed on Vitali's face resulting in it looking like hamburger and causing a stoppage.

DEAL WITH IT.

I'm not the one believing in lewis's magical fantasy cut punch. Lewis isn't Sub Zero..Jose

I'm not the one believing in lewis's magical fantasy cut punch. Lewis is't Sub Zero..Jose


No, you're the one trying to say that it was 'luck' that Lewis landing 50% of his power shots resulted in Vitali's face looking like this:
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You're only continuing to make yourself look more and more foolish.

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bozos winning.

bozos winning.


I don't even see how this fruit cake is fooling himself enough to keep arguing.

Guys throw punches with the intent to hurt and destroy.

Especially a big puncher like Lewis.

Did Lewis intend to cut Vitali? No.

Was it 'luck' that the high percentage of Lewis' landed power shots shot resulted in SEVERAL cuts?

No, of course not.

It would be absurd to draw that desperate conclusion.

I am soo sick of this fight. It was one of the least important but most controversial fights ever. I don't care who would have won, I'm just pissed they didn't do it again so we would have a winner.

we have awinner?

i agree though Joe boxer **** me is this still being discussed.

Lennox has a big W and Vitali a L next to thier names.


forget it move on. For me Vit should be going after byrd if he wants to carry on about fights he wants to avenge, Byrds active biut I dont hear Vitai carrying on aobut a potential match up.

you cant have it both ways Vit. :rolleyes:

or he should fight Gengiz Koc, just so we can have the headline Klit batter Koc. :D :D :D

Torino, you're better off ignoring the moron. I did, and it's working out nicely.

" This message is hidden because Bozo_no_no is on your ignore list."

Anyway, this fight has been discussed into the ground, and back again. The guys I watch fights with don't even talk about it on fight nights anymore, so you know it's an old, OLD topic.


And Dando: Cheers for seeding, Jeers for bringing this thread up top so the more infantile among us can bicker again ;)

- lewis won the fight
- VK was winning the fight, ahead on the cards
- the punch that caused the cut, that stopped the fight, for the most part missed but the side of the glove caught VK's eye... kind of a fluke circumstance, but happened none the less...

- who woulda won had the fight gone on?? hard to say, lewis was starting to come on, but looked very tired from the busy pace he was fighting at...

- in the end, VK's stock did rise despite defeat... he showed a good chin, ability to handle pressure from lewis and pressure from a big fight...

- lewis won the fight
- VK was winning the fight, ahead on the cards
- the punch that caused the cut, that stopped the fight, for the most part missed but the side of the glove caught VK's eye... kind of a fluke circumstance, but happened none the less...

- who woulda won had the fight gone on?? hard to say, lewis was starting to come on, but looked very tired from the busy pace he was fighting at...

- in the end, VK's stock did rise despite defeat... he showed a good chin, ability to handle pressure from lewis and pressure from a big fight...


exactly now ever can shut up and stop bumpign threads with lewis and klitschko in it

I can't wait for someone to knock out this klitschko guy just so we can look back at a thread like this and say, imagine what Lewis would have eventually done to him.

Vitali Klitschko is overrated. Atleast some fighters are overrated for winning performances, but this guy is overrated for the fights he lost. The guy already proved that he had zero heart against Byrd. So can we start talking about him after he beats someone good.

I can't wait for someone to knock out this klitschko guy just so we can look back at a thread like this and say, imagine what Lewis would have eventually done to him.

Vitali Klitschko is overrated. Atleast some fighters are overrated for winning performances, but this guy is overrated for the fights he lost. The guy already proved that he had zero heart against Byrd. So can we start talking about him after he beats someone good.
Utter nonsense. No offense intended, Jack, but you're either pretty young, or not really a fan of the sport (I'm guessing the former..you seem pretty smart 99% of the time). Klitchko is ugly to watch, I'll be the first to admit that, but he's extremely smart in the ring and knows how to use his advantages to their fullest. And, he can take a big-ass shot well. These things are why he succeeds, and are also why he gave Lewis big trouble.

As for the Klitchko/Lewis fight. It really could've gone either way, had it not been stopped, but I'd have given Klitchko a better chance to come out on top, and within another couple of rounds in my opinion. Remember, he's never been down. Lewis wasn't in the best shape of his career, was age 37, and was headed for deep water. I just don't see a way for him to have pulled it off. Sure, he rallied a round or two, but at his age, in the shape he was in, he was headed downhill fast.

Anyway, that's all just supposition. Lewis won, that's all she wrote, the fat lady sang, etc. etc. ad nauseum. I need more coffee.

I can't wait for someone to knock out this klitschko guy just so we can look back at a thread like this and say, imagine what Lewis would have eventually done to him.

Vitali Klitschko is overrated. Atleast some fighters are overrated for winning performances, but this guy is overrated for the fights he lost. The guy already proved that he had zero heart against Byrd. So can we start talking about him after he beats someone good.

He should at least beat 1 fighter except Kirk Johnson who is semi-decent.

Alright you gotta realize no matter who you are, what kind of will you have, taking flush shots from a heavy puncher like Lewis is going to get you knocked out. There's no way he could have withstood a barrage like that again in the later rounds, even if the eye was never open.

All I'm asking for is a win against a top level fighter.

I'm tired of seeing someone who is recognized as the champion by so many people fight a bunch of guys who are garbage.


Everytime I say to a Klitschko fan that he's overrated they always tell me about his potential and his skills, but they never tell me about his accomplishments. Tell me about his accomplishments. You aren't great for your skills, you're great for what you do with them against other top level fighters.

slap the trippuh:

ll should have been dqed for holding and punching - making those cuts..

then he retires - worthless, scared punchbag slob.

know what im talking about, trippuh!?

yall klitschko haters full of ****, did lewis ever in the fight get klitschko against the ropes or did he lay a big flurry of punches in the fight(hell no he didint) to say that klitschko lost is not fair because he didint loose and was putting on a hell of a fight. Lewis was staggered way more then Klitschko and I rmeember George Foreman saying at the fight one punch and he can end the fight, because it was true he was hurting Lewis reall bad. If Vitali was a harder puncher he would have KO'ed Lewis before the fight was stopped but hes a smart fighter who knows how many punches to throw when thyre needed so he doesnt use all his energy up, thats whats so good about him.

to say that klitschko lost is not fair because he didint loose and was putting on a hell of a fight.


Klitschko lost to Lennox Lewis. Go check his record.

I agree that a win over a TOP guy would be great, but I don't see any top fighters in the division right now. No matter who he beats, we'll see the same "He was fighting a bum, 'course he won" stuff that we've seen to date...and it's not far from the truth. I don't see anyone in the division outstanding enough for me to give them better than a 1 in 5 chance against Klitchko. And no, Barrett's performance against Golotta didn't change my mind about his chances against Klitchko. Golotta ain't Vitali. The only similarity is skin color.

If Bowe was in his prime, or maybe Foreman (if he fought with the ring smarts he had in his second career), either of them I think could handle Klitchko, or at least I'd give them even odds (Foreman I'd have to pick as favorite....I don't think anyone could stand up to his power), but in today's division, I just can't pick a challenger that I'd give a chance. Don't get me wrong....today's division isn't devoid of talent, but it's without fighters who have the brains and the talent to shine like those in past years. Klitchko has two things going for him. Size, and smarts, both of which serve him well. He could be beaten, but not by someone who doesn't have the power to KO him, and the brains to outsmart him at the same time. People just don't realize what a formidable tool intelligence can be in a boxing ring.

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The two "Next best Things" in the heavyweight division.

Did Lewis intend to cut Vitali? No.

I knew you would see the light and agree with me eventually. So Lewis didn't intend to cut Vitali.

The Definition of luck is,
Luck (luk) n. 1. Accidental Fortune, 2. Good or bad fate, 3. Chance.

The Definition of chance is,
Chance (chans) n. 1. an unforeseen occurrence, 2.risk, 3. likelihood, 4. opportunity, 5. possibility 6. accidental 7. to risk 8. to happen 9. accidentally

As you said, Lewis did not intend to cut Vitali. So the cuts were not deliberate, therefore the cuts happened by chance (1. an unforeseen occurrence) and Lewis got lucky (1. Accidental Fortune)

The argument was never about who won the fight, power shots, or percentages and all the other crap you tried to make it. It was always about If the cuts were intentional.

If you don't see it now, I have no explanation for your behavior. Your either a Lewis nuthugger, a Klitschko hater, or an idiot. Agree or pick one.

everyone says that want vitali to ebat someone, beat who!!!! everytime vitali fights its o this guy will KO vit, then when vit whens the guy is garbage, no matter who vitali fights peopel will say they will ebat vit but when they lose the twist there words and make that fighter garbage, is there anyone right now who vitali can beat that will shut your ****ign haters mouth up?

these people, the haters have no honour - theire scum. mostly obviously prison ***its whove sucked their way to a keyboard.

look at them post. their self loathing disgrace. you just have to laugh at these life forms..

imagine their background stories and comical existences.. :D

after you stop pity them you hate them in a disconnected, more clinical sence. :)

I knew you would see the light and agree with me eventually. So Lewis didn't intend to cut Vitali.

The Definition of luck is,
Luck (luk) n. 1. Accidental Fortune, 2. Good or bad fate, 3. Chance.

The Definition of chance is,
Chance (chans) n. 1. an unforeseen occurrence, 2.risk, 3. likelihood, 4. opportunity, 5. possibility 6. accidental 7. to risk 8. to happen 9. accidentally

As you said, Lewis did not intend to cut Vitali. So the cuts were not deliberate, therefore the cuts happened by chance (1. an unforeseen occurrence) and Lewis got lucky (1. Accidental Fortune)

The argument was never about who won the fight, power shots, or percentages and all the other crap you tried to make it. It was always about If the cuts were intentional.

If you don't see it now, I have no explanation for your behavior. Your either a Lewis nuthugger, a Klitschko hater, or an idiot. Agree or pick one.

you keep saying that it was 100% luck that lewis cut vit.when you are in the ring and throw a punch you are intending on damaging you opponents.you are trying to cut,swell, or KO your opponent.there is no luck in it.unless you close your eyes and just start swinging and KO somebody.they were both throwing bombs.lewis's punches were the most damageing.you would have an argument if it was only one cut but vit had several cuts.they cant all be luck.you are just in denial about the fight.either you dont want to face the truth or maybe you are that ignorant of the world of boxing.

I knew you would see the light and agree with me eventually. So Lewis didn't intend to cut Vitali.

The Definition of luck is,
Luck (luk) n. 1. Accidental Fortune, 2. Good or bad fate, 3. Chance.

The Definition of chance is,
Chance (chans) n. 1. an unforeseen occurrence, 2.risk, 3. likelihood, 4. opportunity, 5. possibility 6. accidental 7. to risk 8. to happen 9. accidentally

As you said, Lewis did not intend to cut Vitali. So the cuts were not deliberate, therefore the cuts happened by chance (1. an unforeseen occurrence) and Lewis got lucky (1. Accidental Fortune)

The argument was never about who won the fight, power shots, or percentages and all the other crap you tried to make it. It was always about If the cuts were intentional.





You are so blinded, wounded, and desperate that it's hilarious.

I will only repeat myself:

The cutS were a result of the high percentage of Power shots Lennox Lewis landed. There was nothing 'lucky' about a big puncher's power shots resulting in the cutting and swelling caused on the face of the guy he lands on.

You were made to look stupid by not being able to accept this, flat out.

You think that by saying it was 'accidental' and 'chance' that Vitali's face ended up looking like this:

<img src=http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6038/vitaliklitschko27my.jpg>

that it somehow takes away from the LOSS on his record that you so very often try to twist and sugar coat in an attempt to make it seem like it didn't happen.

You've proven beyond a doubt how desperate, pathetic, and wounded you are.

you keep saying that it was 100% luck that lewis cut vit.when you are in the ring and throw a punch you are intending on damaging you opponents.you are trying to cut,swell, or KO your opponent.there is no luck in it.unless you close your eyes and just start swinging and KO somebody.they were both throwing bombs.lewis's punches were the most damageing.you would have an argument if it was only one cut but vit had several cuts.they cant all be luck.you are just in denial about the fight.either you dont want to face the truth or maybe you are that ignorant of the world of boxing.


It's a little bit of both.


It's UNREAL that he can see Vitali's face looking like it was beat into hamburger, yet claim it was 'luck' that Lennox landing 50% of his power shots reuslted in his face looking like that.

I guess his face SHOULD have looked clean, clear, and undamaged, and it was just a 'fluke' that Lewis' punches resulted in Vitali's face looking like this:
<img src=http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Jun-25-Wed-2003/photos/sports1.jpg>

I've never seen someone act so stubborn and ignorant in trying to protect the delusions they so desperatly believe in.

http://i.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/020520/193044__diamondfight_l.jpg

The two "Next best Things" in the heavyweight division.


that fight pissed me off, i wanted to get in there and kick screech's ass... he outweighed the poor kid by 20 lbs....

AGAIN, the argument is about If the cuts were intentional. You've already said they were not intentional. It doesn't matter if Lewis hit him with a million power shots and 100% accuracy. The cuts weren't intentional.

Now I'm convinced you're either a Lewis nuthugger, a Klitschko hater, or an idiot. You can't even concede when the definitions are before you. You will never agree even when proven wrong, therefore this argument can serve no constructive purpose and your just not worth it.

AGAIN, the argument is about If the cuts were intentional. You've already said they were not intentional. It doesn't matter if Lewis hit him with a million power shots and 100% accuracy. The cuts weren't intentional.





Several people have now explained to you how stupid you look.

That's the like saying "Brewster didnt' intend to knock Golota out, it was just a Fluke that his powershots knokced Golota down 3 times".


You're an idiot. And a BLINDED WOUNDED Vitali nut hugger.

You've twisted what you were saying into one tiny point, thinking that if you hold on to it, you have a little shred of something to hold on to and make yourself feel better.

Punches are thrown with the intention to hurt and destroy.

A puncher like Lennox Lewis landed 50% of his power shots in a slugging battle which caused Vitali's face to look like this:
<img src=http://foto.nw-news.de/i/fotostrecke2/big/6434.jpeg>

And there was no 'luck' or 'chance' involved in big sustained punching causeing big damage.

I don't need to ask you what you are, because you've made it abundantly clear.

You're a blinded biased delusional nut hugger, who's twisted a simple discussion into a TINY sub point in the hopes it will ease some of the pain associated with accepting the fact Vitali LOST that fight.

Only you have no point, you're wrong, and several other people have laughed at your spiteful stubborn logic.

That's the like saying "Brewster didnt' intend to knock Golota out, it was just a Fluke that his powershots knokced Golota down 3 times".




Thats what I say. You throw punches with the intentions of KO'ing them in any way you can and hurting them. Bruising them, cutting them, making them lose balance, clouding their head, knocking them down...all a goal of punching someone.

lewis won the fight, i dont have a problem with the stoppage, but i do think the punch that caused the cut was lucky... only because it missed for the most part and cut VK with the creese(spelling?) on the side of the glove... it was kind of a fluke circumstance, you dont see often, but happened none the less...

As long as Vitaly remains at the top, this topic will never go away :-(

lewis won the fight, i dont have a problem with the stoppage, but i do think the punch that caused the cut was lucky... only because it missed for the most part and cut VK with the creese(spelling?) on the side of the glove... it was kind of a fluke circumstance, you dont see often, but happened none the less...


Except that there were FIVE cuts, a clear sign of sustained and ongoing damage.

Granted the largest cut was caused by a glancing blow, but there were many other shots that landed on that spot worsening it.

The overall condition of his face was a direct result of the high % of power shots Lewis landed.

Vitali showed heart and courage in not going down from some of those blows, but in the end he ate too many big punches.

Except that there were FIVE cuts, a clear sign of sustained and ongoing damage.

Granted the largest cut was caused by a glancing blow, but there were many other shots that landed on that spot worsening it.

The overall condition of his face was a direct result of the high % of power shots Lewis landed.

Vitali showed heart and courage in not going down from some of those blows, but in the end he ate too many big punches.


the main cut was really what stopped the fight, the other 4 cuts were bad but there have been way worse, thats why people still bring up the fight in defence of vitali, without that 1 cut vitali woulda won that fight

Except that there were FIVE cuts, a clear sign of sustained and ongoing damage.

Granted the largest cut was caused by a glancing blow, but there were many other shots that landed on that spot worsening it.

The overall condition of his face was a direct result of the high % of power shots Lewis landed.

Vitali showed heart and courage in not going down from some of those blows, but in the end he ate too many big punches.


i'm glad to hear you say that VK showed heart and courage, as there are haters on this board who still say he's heartless... he did take alot of punishment... i wish the cut from that glancing blow wouldn't have happened, so a clear winner could have emerged...

clear winner, we all wanted

fluke, that cut was

bad shape VK was

winning on cards he was too

VERY tired was lewis

the main cut was really what stopped the fight, the other 4 cuts were bad but there have been way worse, thats why people still bring up the fight in defence of vitali, without that 1 cut vitali woulda won that fight

That's purely subjective to say he would have won if he didn't lose.

In the end, punches tore his face open, worsened it, and lead to the stoppage.

IF Vitali hadn't taken so many pucnches, he might have won. IF he didn't get stopped because of the gross condition of his face, he MIGHT have won.

Lewis just as easilly MAY have won had the fight gone on.

There's no sense in twisting things into "what ifs". There's too many different variables and outcomes.

i'm glad to hear you say that VK showed heart and courage, as there are haters on this board who still say he's heartless... he did take alot of punishment... i wish the cut from that glancing blow wouldn't have happened, so a clear winner could have emerged...


A clear winner did emerge.

When one fighter's face looks like a bloody pulp, and the fight is stopped, he loses.

That is what you, and many others fail to realize.

Stop bringing up the scoring.

It could have been 6 rounds to nothing for Vitali, he still had his face beaten into hamburger.

It was a deserving stoppage and loss.

Perhaps IF Vitali hadn't been hit so many times, and IF Lewis wasn't throwing and landing power shots, the fight MAY have been different.

The problem here is the lack of the ability of many of you to accept the outcome of the fight without adding "ifs" or "should haves".

Most lewis defenders keep bringing up that lewis was landign a lot of power shots, well so was vitali!!! more then lewis to be exact, vit took lewis's punchs and was still comign, both men were tired but lewis was dead dead tired theres no way he had enough energy to go on longer then vit.

Most lewis defenders keep bringing up that lewis was landign a lot of power shots, well so was vitali!!! more then lewis to be exact, vit took lewis's punchs and was still comign, both men were tired but lewis was dead dead tired theres no way he had enough energy to go on longer then vit.


Lewis was landing much harder shots in the 5th and 6th rounds. He hit Vitali with two huge uppercuts and a good right hand that had Vitali stunned.

Most lewis defenders keep bringing up that lewis was landign a lot of power shots, well so was vitali!!! more then lewis to be exact, vit took lewis's punchs and was still comign, both men were tired but lewis was dead dead tired theres no way he had enough energy to go on longer then vit.


You're absolutly right, Vitali even landed more power shots.

But the difference is, Vitali isn't the callibur of puncher Lewis is, and Vitali's punches didn't trun Lewis' face into mush.


You're wasting your time. There's NOTHING that says "IF" the fight had gone on, Vitali would have won. If you watch the last 20 seconds of round 6, Vitali doesn't thow one punch and is following Lewis around trying to fall on him.

Lewis was tired in the end, but Vitali was in bad shape as well, and I'm not just talking about his face.

Hey Bozo,

I always pictured you being butt ugly. I guess I was right once again.

http://img81.echo.cx/img81/3913/image0tj.gif

ROTFL

You're absolutly right, Vitali even landed more power shots.

But the difference is, Vitali isn't the callibur of puncher Lewis is, and Vitali's punches didn't trun Lewis' face into mush.


You're wasting your time. There's NOTHING that says "IF" the fight had gone on, Vitali would have won. If you watch the last 20 seconds of round 6, Vitali doesn't thow one punch and is following Lewis around trying to fall on him.

Lewis was tired in the end, but Vitali was in bad shape as well, and I'm not just talking about his face.

umm as i recall lewis grabbed hold of vitali and was dragging him back , vitali was using his strentgh to hold lewis up lmao

umm as i recall lewis grabbed hold of vitali and was dragging him back , vitali was using his strentgh to hold lewis up lmao


That would be because your blinded bias warps your view and taints your memory.

I suggest you watch the last 30 seconds of round 6 again. Vitali doesn't throw or land a single punch, and a combo thrown by Lewis at the 20 second mark causes Vitali to stumble forward and grab on to Lewis. Lewis then lands another uppercut with about 6 seconds left.

Hey Bozo,

I always pictured you being butt ugly. I guess I was right once again.




It would seem you spend an awful lot of time thinking about me, wondering what my thoughts are on various subjects, and wondering what I look like.

That pic is a photo of a character from a great Canadian TV show.

It's nice to see the way I've hurt your feelings on several occasions has caused you to become so facinated with me...

It would seem you spend an awful lot of time thinking about me, wondering what my thoughts are on various subjects, and wondering what I look like.

That pic is a photo of a character from a great Canadian TV show.

It's nice to see the way I've hurt your feelings on several occasions has caused you to become so facinated with me...
Bozo,

You are more than hysterical!
1) Why do you intend on saying you hurt my feelings? Which lead me to #2
2) Do you realize that I care more about a bug that I stepped on yesterday, than you.

The only thing you fascinate me with is the amount of crap that come out of your mouth.

In case you are wondering what my mental picture of you is, here is it below....
http://www.alanjohns.fsnet.co.uk/goldmember/fat-bastard.jpg

You're absolutly right, Vitali even landed more power shots.

But the difference is, Vitali isn't the callibur of puncher Lewis is, and Vitali's punches didn't trun Lewis' face into mush.


You're wasting your time. There's NOTHING that says "IF" the fight had gone on, Vitali would have won. If you watch the last 20 seconds of round 6, Vitali doesn't thow one punch and is following Lewis around trying to fall on him.

Lewis was tired in the end, but Vitali was in bad shape as well, and I'm not just talking about his face.

i agree lewis is the harder puncher, but he didnt shake VK, remeber the second round how LL was wobbeled.

Imo neither where in good shape because they where expectin to fight lesser fighters than eact other.

VK won 1,2,4 and 6. the judges agree and VK had more energy left than LL.

had they just not stopped the fight, we wouldnt need to argue about this over and over and over

Bozo,

Do you realize that I care more about a bug that I stepped on yesterday, than you.




And that's why you follow me around, ask me for my opinions on various topics, and wonder what I look like?

You're a troll, and you follow me around because some of my comments in the past have hurt your feelings.

But I'll bite, if you wanna play that game, this is my mental image of you:

<img src=http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=SocialLife/high_life&file=025_b.jpg>

You'd be the one in the middle.

Notice where your hands are...

That would be because your blinded bias warps your view and taints your memory.

I suggest you watch the last 30 seconds of round 6 again. Vitali doesn't throw or land a single punch, and a combo thrown by Lewis at the 20 second mark causes Vitali to stumble forward and grab on to Lewis. Lewis then lands another uppercut with about 6 seconds left.


funyy how everyone is a blinded baised idiot but u, i think u are the one blinded, i watched it and you are wrong palin an simple

i agree lewis is the harder puncher, but he didnt shake VK, remeber the second round how LL was wobbeled.


Please. Lewis didn't go down, and he was no more hurt than Vitali was after a few of the uppercuts in the 6th, or the stumbling state he was in at the end of the 6th round.


VK won 1,2,4 and 6. the judges agree and VK had more energy left than LL.


Once again, scoring doesn't mean anything in a fight that's stopped. It doesn't really matter who had more energy left when one of them didn't have their face in tact.

Again, had the fight not been stopped, it was a complete toss up as to who was going to win. There's no way you can say that because Lewis sat down hard on his stool after the 6th it meant he was finished. I suggest you watch how hard Ali falls onto his stool in rounds 10-14 in the 3rd Frazier fight. You don't judge a fight on who 'looks more tired'.

i agree lewis is the harder puncher, but he didnt shake VK, remeber the second round how LL was wobbeled.

Imo neither where in good shape because they where expectin to fight lesser fighters than eact other.

VK won 1,2,4 and 6. the judges agree and VK had more energy left than LL.

had they just not stopped the fight, we wouldnt need to argue about this over and over and over

Hadn't they stopped the fight, VK's eye would probably have sustained some really serious damage. It was a good stop. It's been a while since I saw the fight, but I remember thinking he was lucky they gave him a chance to continue fighting another round.

It was definitely a close fight, but VK's face was destroyed and the fight was stopped. That's pretty much as clear a loss as you can find in boxing. Whether LL looked to be in bad shape, or tired, or hurt at times, VK had his face demolished pretty badly by today's standards. Maybe VK could have beat Lewis in a rematch, but he should have beat him the first time around, if he really wanted to prove he was the best.

funyy how everyone is a blinded baised idiot but u, i think u are the one blinded, i watched it and you are wrong palin an simple


I don't really care what you think.

If you truely just watched it again, you'd notice Vitali doesn't throw or land a single punch in the last 20 seconds, and Lewis lands several. Vitali then lunges to grab on to Lewis, as Lewis backpeddles trying not to allow Vitali to clinch so he can hit him again, and he does with a few more good shots with 5 seconds left.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

And you're 15.

A clear winner did emerge.

When one fighter's face looks like a bloody pulp, and the fight is stopped, he loses.

That is what you, and many others fail to realize.

Stop bringing up the scoring.

It could have been 6 rounds to nothing for Vitali, he still had his face beaten into hamburger.

It was a deserving stoppage and loss.

Perhaps IF Vitali hadn't been hit so many times, and IF Lewis wasn't throwing and landing power shots, the fight MAY have been different.

The problem here is the lack of the ability of many of you to accept the outcome of the fight without adding "ifs" or "should haves".



i've already said lewis won, but to me it was not a clear winner, only because the major cut was an unusual circustamce, a glancing blow.... i guess to you it was clear, but to me it was not... although i have no problem with saying lewis won, VK lost

i've already said lewis won, but to me it was not a clear winner, only because the major cut was an unusual circustamce, a glancing blow.... i guess to you it was clear, but to me it was not... although i have no problem with saying lewis, VK lost


That's fine, but that narrow view really understates the damage Lewis did in, over, and around that cut. It's not like there was one incidnetal gash. His face was a bloody mask, and the puches on the cut after it happened worsened it.

The way I look at it is Vitali showed a lot of heart courage and chin absorbing some of those shots, but his face couldn't take it like his will could.

The bottom line is that Vitali took too many shots from Lewis. If his defense was tighter, he may have been in a better position to capatilize.

Instead, they both elected to slug it out with little regard to defense or boxing.

The result was the bigger pucher doing MUCH more damaging and scoring a technical stoppage.

And that's why you follow me around, ask me for my opinions on various topics, and wonder what I look like?

You're a troll, and you follow me around because some of my comments in the past have hurt your feelings.

Hmm :rolleyes:

Little puke, show me one post where I asked for your opinion, or where you "hurt my feelings" LOL

I suggest you stop masturbating and get out more often.. as it seems it is you who follows around every Klitschko threads. Do you subscribe to this ****? I mean do you like get an email notification every time a K-O thread is created? Because you're all over it!

That's fine, but that narrow view really understates the damage Lewis did in, over, and around that cut. It's not like there was one incidnetal gash. His face was a bloody mask, and the puches on the cut after it happened worsened it.

The way I look at it is Vitali showed a lot of heart courage and chin absorbing some of those shots, but his face couldn't take it like his will could.

The bottom line is that Vitali took too many shots from Lewis. If his defense was tighter, he may have been in a better position to capatilize.

Instead, they both elected to slug it out with little regard to defense or boxing.

The result was the bigger pucher doing MUCH more damaging and scoring a technical stoppage.


dude, i've been agreeing to all that.....VK took alot of punishment... lewis took alot of punishment... it just wasn't a clear winner to me cause the worse cut was a freakish thing... if that cut never happened the fight would have gone on cause the other cuts weren't bad enough to stop it and we could have gotten a MORE CLEAR winner... i never argued what lewis did or the other damage he caused...

Please. Lewis didn't go down, and he was no more hurt than Vitali was after a few of the uppercuts in the 6th, or the stumbling state he was in at the end of the 6th round.



Once again, scoring doesn't mean anything in a fight that's stopped. It doesn't really matter who had more energy left when one of them didn't have their face in tact.

Again, had the fight not been stopped, it was a complete toss up as to who was going to win. There's no way you can say that because Lewis sat down hard on his stool after the 6th it meant he was finished. I suggest you watch how hard Ali falls onto his stool in rounds 10-14 in the 3rd Frazier fight. You don't judge a fight on who 'looks more tired'.

true, but vk was leading and had the more energy left.
i admitt it dont mean that LL couldnt have knocked him out.

Hmm :rolleyes:

Little puke, show me one post where I asked for your opinion, or where you "hurt my feelings" LOL

I suggest you stop masturbating and get out more often.. as it seems it is you who follows around every Klitschko threads. Do you subscribe to this ****? I mean do you like get an email notification every time a K-O thread is created? Because you're all over it!


Something about begging me to post a top ten list of some sort.

And I'm not the one who followed me into this thread, didn't adress anything being discussed, and started in on me again.

You're a troll, that's all there is to it.

Hey Bozo,

I always pictured you being butt ugly. I guess I was right once again.

http://img81.echo.cx/img81/3913/image0tj.gif

ROTFL

man when people get exposed for there stupid line of thoughts they come up with this **** they spew out of their mouths.they cant accept the facts so they try and get to you by insulting which only makes them look more ignorant then ever.

true, but vk was leading and had the more energy left.
i admitt it dont mean that LL couldnt have knocked him out.
Why do you even talk to this reject? :eek: LOL

true, but vk was leading and had the more energy left.



2nd time now:

Who's leading in on the cards in a 6 round fight that's stopped doesn't mean anything, nor does who has more energy left, which is something no one can monitor with any degree of accuracy.

Hadn't they stopped the fight, VK's eye would probably have sustained some really serious damage. It was a good stop. It's been a while since I saw the fight, but I remember thinking he was lucky they gave him a chance to continue fighting another round.

It was definitely a close fight, but VK's face was destroyed and the fight was stopped. That's pretty much as clear a loss as you can find in boxing. Whether LL looked to be in bad shape, or tired, or hurt at times, VK had his face demolished pretty badly by today's standards. Maybe VK could have beat Lewis in a rematch, but he should have beat him the first time around, if he really wanted to prove he was the best.

Well adleast we wouldnt still be arguing about the fight if it did go one, yes VK could have been badly injured but he could also have ka`od VK.

anyway IMO cut came from the edge of LL glove, so lucky LL and unlucky VK

2nd time now:

Who's leading in on the cards in a 6 round fight that's stopped doesn't mean anything, nor does who has more energy left, which is something no one can monitor with any degree of accuracy.

Your telling me that the amount of energy left in the fighters has nothing to say.

what a bozo statement.

Why do you even talk to this reject? :eek: LOL


Yes, when you can't counter what I say, why not just elect to follow me around like a troll and make off topic spiteful insults.

Seems to work well for you.

Why do you even talk to this reject? :eek: LOL

im about to give upp on this guy.

how come he only talks about the klits and only in a negativ way?
(i smell hater)

Your telling me that the amount of energy left in the fighters has nothing to say.

what a bozo statement.

I'm telling you fights are not judged on who has more energy left. In this case it was judged on who's face was falling apart.

And your point is?

Do you even know?

You said several times Lewis was "lucky" he caused those cuts.

That's absolute non sense.

Lewis kept punching, landed 50% of his power shots, and the condition of Vitali's face was a direct result of his heavy punching.

Get over it already.

Lewis landed over 50% of his power shots against Rahman, Tyson, and Tua, how come they didnt get cut? I guess by your logic when Lewis throws 50% or more the fighter it supposed to get cut?

Are you that stupid to not realize that it was Lewises luckiest nights in all of his career fights? Do you honestly think Lewis would've won if he never inflicted that cut in the first place? FOr crying out loud even George Foreman said it was a lukcy escape for Lewis in deed.

followed me into this thread, didn't adress anything being discussed, and started in on me again.Ohhh I'm sowwy..

Please don't cwy.

Lewis landed over 50% of his power shots against Rahman, Tyson, and Tua, how come they didnt get cut? I guess by your logic when Lewis throws 50% or more the fighter it supposed to get cut?

Are you that stupid to not realize that it was Lewises luckiest nights in all of his career fights? Do you honestly think Lewis would've won if he never inflicted that cut in the first place? FOr crying out loud even George Foreman said it was a lukcy escape for Lewis in deed.


Rahman was cut in the 1st round of the rematch, and knocked out in the 4th.

Tyson was cut in several spots, and knocked out in the 8th round.

Tua doesn't cut easilly and has one of the best chins of this generation, plus Lewis almost exclusivly jabbed in that fight.

Don't blow smoke.

Once again, it was not luck that Vitali's face ended up like this:
<img src=http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6038/vitaliklitschko27my.jpg>

Ohhh I'm sowwy..

Please don't cwy.


It doesn't upset me that you're a spiteful wounded troll.

I find it rather amusing.

I'll continue to belittle you everytime you follow me around.

These every Vitali supporter against Bozo threads are funny. Most of the time he's right and everyone else is wrong in my estimation. But then again i'm an idiot so don't listen to me.

It doesn't upset me that you're a spiteful wounded troll.

I find it rather amusing.

I'll continue to belittle you everytime you follow me around.Do you all see how retarded Bozo is?

He keeps talking about the same thing over and over and over...
1) I told him that I don't follow him around... it is him who follows around every Klitshcko thread.
2) I told him that he doesn't get to me

But he keeps insisting the same...

Problem with Bozo is he refuses to listen.. he is so isolated in his own little world it's pathetic. So save yourselves the argument.. it's not worth arguing with a "Bozo".

And to prove you all how pathetic he is.. watch him reply!

Bozo,
You have my pitty. You like this mentally challanged lonely little boy, who keeps yapping and yapping. So, go ahead, reply, try make yourself feel like a man. Something you'll never were, or ever be.. I know it makes you feel better.

Do you all see how retarded Bozo is?

He keeps talking about the same thing over and over and over...
1) I told him that I don't follow him around... it is him who follows around every Klitshcko thread.
2) I told him that he doesn't get to me
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lol,

You follow me into this thread, don't say a word on topic, and yet I'm following you?

And I don't bother you, yet you feel the need to follow me around, ask for my opinion on things, wonder what I look like, and then make a long winded post trying to justify why I don't bother you?

This is getting pretty sad.

Post on the topic, or leave. Because all you're doing is further illustrating how you're facinated with me, and how I bother you.

I don't really care what you think.

If you truely just watched it again, you'd notice Vitali doesn't throw or land a single punch in the last 20 seconds, and Lewis lands several. Vitali then lunges to grab on to Lewis, as Lewis backpeddles trying not to allow Vitali to clinch so he can hit him again, and he does with a few more good shots with 5 seconds left.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

And you're 15.


what does age have to do with vitali vs lewis, btw im 16 punk :)

What did I tell you all?
Read below in BLUE
Pretty dumb right? :rolleyes:


lol,

You follow me into this thread, don't say a word on topic, and yet I'm following you?
Did I say he was following me? I said he keeps following all Klitchko threads.

And I don't bother you, yet you feel the need to follow me around, ask for my opinion on things, wonder what I look like, and then make a long winded post trying to justify why I don't bother you?
This one is pretty self explanatory. First he says he doesn't bother me.. than he says he is. And again he keeps repeating himself about people (me in particular) asking for his opinion.. this is after 3 times I said that I DON'T CARE for it

This is getting pretty sad.
Yes it is. But Bozo, don't feel discouraged. There is always hope. Have you ever try to seek professional help?

Post on the topic, or leave. Because all you're doing is further illustrating how you're facinated with me, and how I bother you.

What did I tell you all?
Read below in BLUE
Pretty dumb right? :rolleyes:


Once again, I repeat:

You've followed me into this thread, have yet to post on topic, and now have about 5-8 posts of you trying to explain why I don't bother you.

<img src=http://www.cd-profil.dk/yabb/hands_clapping.gif>

H.B.O. 2 East is about to replay that fight. 6:30 central time and I suggest you people re-watch it. Some of you really need to.

saw it again.

Klitscho Won rounds 1, 2, 3, and 6. Lewis won rounds 4 and 5.

i also agree with the doctors decision to stop the fight due to cuts. lewis won in every way EXCEPT he didnt win the slugfest. but lewis did in fact win.

the only thing i dont agree with about this fight is lewis' decision to retire instead of give vitali a rematch (a fight that lewis could've used and a fight vitali deserved).

vitali deserves a rematch. period.

saw it again.

Klitscho Won rounds 1, 2, 3, and 6. Lewis won rounds 4 and 5.

i also agree with the doctors decision to stop the fight due to cuts. lewis won in every way EXCEPT he didnt win the slugfest. but lewis did in fact win.

the only thing i dont agree with about this fight is lewis' decision to retire instead of give vitali a rematch (a fight that lewis could've used and a fight vitali deserved).

vitali deserves a rematch. period.
Was just thinking the same thing though being a lennox fan hate to admit but gotta keep it real.

I scored it exactly how I had it scored the first time around.

Rounds 1, 3, 5 and 6 going to Lennox.

I scored it exactly how I had it scored the first time around.

Rounds 1, 3, 5 and 6 going to Lennox.
this scorecard should never be shown again due to its awful stupidity and unbeleivable inaccuracy.

4-2 for Lewis?

you cant be ****ing serious...

this scorecard should never be shown again due to its awful stupidity and unbeleivable inaccuracy.

4-2 for Lewis?

you cant be ****ing serious...

Lewis landed at a higher percentage in rounds 5 and 6 as well as landed more meaningful punches. He was landing right hands, and Vitali was holding right after. Lets not forget the hard uppercutt...maybe the most meaningful punch of the round.

Oh and did you notice.....alot of VK's punches were landing on Lennox's gaurd. He was more gassed than stunned in that fight as well.

this scorecard should never be shown again due to its awful stupidity and unbeleivable inaccuracy.

4-2 for Lewis?

you cant be ****ing serious...


You scoring the 6th for Vitali is a joke.

All 3 judges gave Lewis the round. He landed some of the best punches of the fight in that round.

I had it 3 a piece (same card as Lederman) giving Lewis 3 5 & 6

You scoring the 6th for Vitali is a joke.

All 3 judges gave Lewis the round. He landed some of the best punches of the fight in that round.

I had it 3 a piece (same card as Lederman) giving Lewis 3 5 & 6
you scoring the 4th for vitali is a joke.

vitali was the one doing the throwing, landing, and lewis was the one doing the staggering.

ur in no position to say what was a joke.

you scoring the 4th for vitali is a joke.
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What the hell are you talking about? Vitali clearly won the 4th round.

ur in no position to say what was a joke.


This really carries a lot of weight coming from the guy who says this guy
<img src=http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6038/vitaliklitschko27my.jpg>
won the slug fest.

:rolleyes:

This really carries a lot of weight coming from the guy who says this guy
<img src=http://img161.exs.cx/img161/6038/vitaliklitschko27my.jpg>
won the slug fest.

:rolleyes:
look at my statement in the other thread.

"the guy who bleeds the least wins the slugfest" i guess that also means, the guy who punches the other guy hardest loses the slugfest, right?

you scoring the 4th for vitali is a joke.

vitali was the one doing the throwing, landing, and lewis was the one doing the staggering.



look at my statement in the other thread.

"the guy who bleeds the least wins the slugfest" i guess that also means, the guy who punches the other guy hardest loses the slugfest, right?



If anyone has any idea what this clown is trying to say, let me know.

None of that makes the least bit of sense.