he lost to smith on a very close decision. i still think kaddour is the better fighter.
if they fight in a real card, look for kaddour to win.

thanks... it hasnt come on yet for me.
oh well i still watch ;)

Damn, damn, damn ... new time tonite! And I just let the laziest ***** in the world go on break!

****.

Ahmed seemed like an amateur and isnt on Ishes level despite none of them being top tier guys.

I hate the fact that Manfredo is coming back, I would have enjoyed him getting it on with Ahmed and both of them sucked ass.

This was pure goood vs evil. I was so ****ing happy that he lost. He coudln't back up ****. As soon as Ishe fought back, he looked like he folded mentally. I'm still suprised Ishe had Randall Bailey's head on his young record.

Ahmed seemed like an amateur and isnt on Ishes level despite none of them being top tier guys.

I hate the fact that Manfredo is coming back, I would have enjoyed him getting it on with Ahmed and both of them sucked ass.

manfredo is coming back? why are they doing that?

i like kaddour, as far as talent for the future, i think kaaddour is btter

i like kaddour, as far as talent for the future, i think kaaddour is btter

nah not really, he is easily manipulated. ishe got in his head and the fight was over before it started. kaddour was so angry with ishe he focused too heavily on a KO.

I ****in missed it, I got Deadwood on DVD and been watchin that **** all weekend. I think it is bull**** if they let Manfredo back on the show. Might as well let Reid and Ahmed back too if there gonna ***** out like that....

manfredo is coming back? why are they doing that?


Someone "unexpectedly" has to pull out of the show and it showed Sly talking about how they need to pick someone to come back and it showed the ******** team like "whoa". But it was leaked that Manfredo came back. Which is complete horse ****, if you leave any under circumstances their should be no replacement besides when did boxing become a team effort?


Also on a side note, Ahmed thought he was hot **** when he sparred Leonard and Leonard as old as he is now, still would have whipped that ass and the nerve of Kaddour to talk **** to a great like that.

Someone "unexpectedly" has to pull out of the show and it showed Sly talking about how they need to pick someone to come back and it showed the ******** team like "whoa". But it was leaked that Manfredo came back. Which is complete horse ****, if you leave any under circumstances their should be no replacement besides when did boxing become a team effort?


Also on a side note, Ahmed thought he was hot **** when he sparred Leonard and Leonard as old as he is now, still would have whipped that ass and the nerve of Kaddour to talk **** to a great like that.

Agreed! Leonard was giving the guy a great honor by sparring with him and the guy becomes a headhunter. leonard didn't even hit him back or Kaddours boxing career would have come to a swift end. Then he talks **** like he kicked leonards ass. :rolleyes: What a punk. Ahmed sucks as a boxer too. The guy doesn't even know how to throw a jab. He's a joke as a boxer and a joke as a human being. The way he was giving Ishe's wife the F-U sign during the fight. Complete classless dick.

I ****in missed it, I got Deadwood on DVD and been watchin that **** all weekend. I think it is bull**** if they let Manfredo back on the show. Might as well let Reid and Ahmed back too if there gonna ***** out like that....

Deadwood is great. Did you get to see the new episode yesterday?

I think it was a much better fight, than any fight seen on the Next Great Champ. Kaddour showed the heart of a fighter, but this unfortunately is boxing not fighting. He would have kicked Ishe's A$$ in a street fight. Ishe broke him down with the lefts to the body. I look to see Kaddour in a real fight on tv in the future. Also I am glad to see how Ishe's team made him back up his word. Someone from the west team is going to take it all, they have much more heart and character than the east team. :boxing:

Agreed! Leonard was giving the guy a great honor by sparring with him and the guy becomes a headhunter. leonard didn't even hit him back or Kaddours boxing career would have come to a swift end. Then he talks **** like he kicked leonards ass. :rolleyes: What a punk. Ahmed sucks as a boxer too. The guy doesn't even know how to throw a jab. He's a joke as a boxer and a joke as a human being. The way he was giving Ishe's wife the F-U sign during the fight. Complete classless dick.


His arrogance cost him the fight, he mistakes it for confidence and that cost him. Ahmed showed how UNprofessional he was when he punched Ishe when the ref was between the two.

He is a bum, Ishe and Reid were probably the best fighters on the whole show and I would have liked to see them go at it really.

Ishe beat Randall Bailey and David Estrada which gives him plenty of credit to me...Decent contender, should fight at welterweight or 154 though.

Also his amateur career is fantastic 100 WINS out of 117 Fights TOTAL!!!

He made into the Olympic trials in 1996...Losing to who? Zab Judah....Sounds pretty good so far.

Agreed! Leonard was giving the guy a great honor by sparring with him and the guy becomes a headhunter. leonard didn't even hit him back or Kaddours boxing career would have come to a swift end. Then he talks **** like he kicked leonards ass. :rolleyes: What a punk. Ahmed sucks as a boxer too. The guy doesn't even know how to throw a jab. He's a joke as a boxer and a joke as a human being. The way he was giving Ishe's wife the F-U sign during the fight. Complete classless dick.

sorri but that was kinda funny lol. she jus kept talkin and then she shutup lol
his problem was focus

sorri but that was kinda funny lol. she jus kept talkin and then she shutup lol
his problem was focus

With all the people and children in attendance it was classless.

the west is kicking butt, Ishe finaly backed up all that talk

I think they made the fight last night closer than it actually was.

I think they made the fight last night closer than it actually was.


Well of course, it was an anticipated fight...Surely they wouldnt show one fighter outclassing the other it would make the show look bogus.

I hate how they have to show every fight on the highlights as being classic, I just pray one of the fighters KO the other within 1 round.

Well of course, it was an anticipated fight...Surely they wouldnt show one fighter outclassing the other it would make the show look bogus.

I hate how they have to show every fight on the highlights as being classic, I just pray one of the fighters KO the other within 1 round.

That's what kills me with this show...the way they show the fights is too phoney. I don't like being told what to think about a fight based on what highlights are shown. One of the best things about boxing is being able to watch the same fight over and over again and picking up new things that you didn't see before. You get to form your own opinion about what happened. People here still debate fights that happened years ago.

Think about a famous fight that was really close, say Trinidad - De La Hoya. If the producers of this show got their hands on it, they'd chop it up to make it look for sure like Trinidad won, though close enough to still make it look exciting. We wouldn't get to see the real story.

It's bad for the fighters too because people get perceptions of them that are based on what the producers of the show want to show us. So certain fighters look arrogant, while others are made to look bad in the ring, and so on. Boxing careers are built on reputation, and if you are made to look bad on TV like that you might never recover.

That's what kills me with this show...the way they show the fights is too phoney. I don't like being told what to think about a fight based on what highlights are shown. One of the best things about boxing is being able to watch the same fight over and over again and picking up new things that you didn't see before. You get to form your own opinion about what happened. People here still debate fights that happened years ago.

Think about a famous fight that was really close, say Trinidad - De La Hoya. If the producers of this show got their hands on it, they'd chop it up to make it look for sure like Trinidad won, though close enough to still make it look exciting. We wouldn't get to see the real story.

It's bad for the fighters too because people get perceptions of them that are based on what the producers of the show want to show us. So certain fighters look arrogant, while others are made to look bad in the ring, and so on. Boxing careers are built on reputation, and if you are made to look bad on TV like that you might never recover.


Amen, It is ridiculous they will show a guy land like 5 power shots in the highlights and forget the opponent landed about 10 jabs prior to those shots and dont air those...I still wish they would show the full fights but damn I was actually hyped up when I found out Ishe chose Ahmed.

Deadwood is great. Did you get to see the new episode yesterday?

Nah, what happened?

manfredo is coming back? why are they doing that?
Hopefully they are bringing him back.It would be sweet to see Ishe vs. Manfredo in the final bout. :boxing:

Nah, what happened?

Well yesterday was the second episode of the second season.

If you have comcast on demand you can see all of last season and the 2 eps from this season.

Anyway in the first ep of this season, Swearengen and Bullock get into a fist fight after Swearengen insults Alma (the rich chick). Also Bullock's wife and boy arrive from Minnesota.

In last night's episode. Swearengen and Bullock come to an uneasy truce and Calamity Jane returns.

For a more thorough summary see click here

http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/episode/season2/episode14.shtml?ntrack_para1=feat_main_title

wasnt there a guy who killed himself on there? if so who did?

manfredo is coming back? why are they doing that?

Who else are they gonna vote back in? Pff, Ahmed? Screw him... Anyway, I'm willing to bet Manfredo walks away with the whole competition if he comes back.

Ahmed got messed up, from the looks of the edited fight. Everyone after the fight was saying he didn't look like he belonged there. I gave Ahmed round 1, and 3, but 2, 4 and 5 to Ishe.

You guys should do my contender betting game in the fantasy betting section.

Eman, Najai Turpin was the guy who killed himself.

Who else are they gonna vote back in? Pff, Ahmed? Screw him... Anyway, I'm willing to bet Manfredo walks away with the whole competition if he comes back.

Ahmed got messed up, from the looks of the edited fight. Everyone after the fight was saying he didn't look like he belonged there. I gave Ahmed round 1, and 3, but 2, 4 and 5 to Ishe.



I say bring back Reid.

Amen, It is ridiculous they will show a guy land like 5 power shots in the highlights and forget the opponent landed about 10 jabs prior to those shots and dont air those...I still wish they would show the full fights but damn I was actually hyped up when I found out Ishe chose Ahmed.

Maybe when they release the purchasable DVD version, they can show it in teh special features or something.

I say bring back Reid.

Yeah, he didnt get his ass whooped as bad as Manfredo...

I hated this dude...talked trash and had it handed to him. Gotta love it!

Kiddour definitely got what was coming to him...He started out strong but then he fell apart...Still thought he won tho... I didnt see anything wrong with Manfredo he was supposedly NO. 1 in the show and he gave a good fight but Gomez fought better. It was classy he didnt talk **** before or after the fight. Props to Manfredo and watch out for him now...

Who the hell ever said Manfredo was #1 in the show? Like hell he was. I've said since the day I found out Ishe was in it that he was the best by far. And he is. I definitely figured it'd be Manfredo vs. Ishe in the finals but still thought Ishe was in a totally different league than anybody else on this show.

I still say this show is rigged if Ishe doesn't win. There's just no way he could lose a 5 rounder to any of these bums.

Does anyone else think Manfredo got a gift last week. I know we don't see the whole fight so it's hard to judge, but I thought it was pretty clear the other guy won. I think the crowd influenced the judges.