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goodkingbudpuffer
03-12-2005, 09:37 PM
Anyone Know How To Score The One Punch Knockouts? Have Played Alot And Have Never Scored A One Punch Ko. Any Suggestions?

julDilla
03-12-2005, 09:40 PM
its gonna happen in the late rounds go to the body a lot, after round 6 do a haymaker uppercut if its a flash kncokdown chances are he might stay down for the count

MlLkMan
03-12-2005, 10:48 PM
Yeah me too, i only got a flash knockdown and it was like in the 4th round with a haymaker.

masterdirector
03-13-2005, 02:35 AM
man I told everyone Fight Night Round 2 wouldn't come anywhere near touching Victorious Boxers 2. Wish I would've had people to bet on it cause I would've made a killing.

Anyone else already bored with Fight Night Round 2? Another week or so and it'll go back on the shelf for a while for me. Get back to VB2.

That career mode is a ****ing joke. Can only move up one weight class? At age 40 you only have like 35 or so fights? That amateur career, all 10 fights of it, was a joke. You don't actually move up or down in weight by training, you just do it. Stupid.

All that said, I'm glad EA is at least putting forth the effort. I will give them that. The game would be awesome if the VB series didn't exist.

joeboxer
03-13-2005, 03:42 AM
man I told everyone Fight Night Round 2 wouldn't come anywhere near touching Victorious Boxers 2. Wish I would've had people to bet on it cause I would've made a killing.

Anyone else already bored with Fight Night Round 2? Another week or so and it'll go back on the shelf for a while for me. Get back to VB2.

That career mode is a ****ing joke. Can only move up one weight class? At age 40 you only have like 35 or so fights? That amateur career, all 10 fights of it, was a joke. You don't actually move up or down in weight by training, you just do it. Stupid.

All that said, I'm glad EA is at least putting forth the effort. I will give them that. The game would be awesome if the VB series didn't exist.

I asked you this in your comeback thread but you didn't answer. Where do you get Victorius Boxers. Are you from Japan, because I never see it here.

masterdirector
03-13-2005, 04:44 AM
That thread probably go so buried that I never found it again. Sorry, wasn't ignoring you.

I'm from the States. I got Victorious Boxers 1 when it was released in the US just cause it was a boxing game and I thought it might be OK. I gotta admit, upon looking at the back cover, I was a little worried that I'd bought something a step above Ready 2 Rumble.

You can get Victorious Boxers 1 easily enough. It was made in 2001, so it is outdated now, although it still has MUCH more replay value. It's worth the $5-10 if you find it, try Ebay. You'll see how heavily Fight Night borrowed from it on the fighting system.

Victorious Boxers 2 is ****ing amazing though. All 17 weight classes are in the game. You can start out at minimum weight and go all the way to heavyweight if your guy can manage.

To illustrate the career mode, called Boxer's Road, I bought this game back in April last year. I had about 5 months off of playing it because I had sort of smashed my PS2 against the wall.

Anyhow, I've only created 3 boxers total on the game. First boxer, I didn't manage his training properly, had little idea of what I was doing, and he was getting his ass kicked in the ring, even in sparring. In career, you train your fighter and decide when to try for his pro test, which is an amateur bout that determines if a boxer gets licensed. It's a japanese thing. They also take a written exam as part of the pro test in japan.

Anyhow, pro test is supposed to be PISS EASY. Well, my first fighter barely beat the pro test opponent. I think I managed to win one 4 round decision with him then he was knocked out in 3-4 other matches. He was kicked out of the gym, career over.


Next fighter I created was slightly better. I started understanding the training and diet routine more. This guy was undefeated when I quit using him. He was like 12 or 13 and 0. I quit with him to focus on my 3rd fighter.

My 3rd fighter, and the one I'm still currently using, was Tony Capri. About 6 feet tall. Started him out at 17 training. I waited 2 game years before I let him take the pro test. So at about 19 he turned pro at Strawweight. Since he's so tall, it was hard to keep him at any super low weight long. I think he was about 20 something and 0 when I finally got the courage to put him in against the Japanese National champion at 122 lbs.

Reason I was nervous putting him in is this. He was 2-3 weight classes under 122 but I recognized a fighter from Victorious Boxers 1 in the 122 class that was the champion, and another fighter was a contender. So I moved my fighter up in class so he could fight guys I knew. He easily won the JBC 122 title, just a national title.

See there are 3 levels of titles on the game. National, Intercontenental (sp?), and World titles. The National titles depend on what country/region you're fighting from. Intercontenintal are all definitely real titles, like I'm sure you've at least seen mention of the OPBF, Ocean Pacific BF title. That's on there. Then the four main world titles we all know, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO are all there.

My fighter quickly moved up and won the JBC Featherweight title, OPBF Featherweight, and WBA and WBC Featherweight titles. This was probably by the time he was 21 I'll say. From 126 up, Tony Capri has held at least the WBC title in every weight class, including just recently the WBC heavyweight title.

Tony Capri's current record 94-0 (92 KOs). There were some very tough battles in there, obviously I didn't save if I lost. He's either 29 or 30 years old now. I'm going to have him get to probably 25-30 title defenses to break Louis' record and retire him.

That character means so much to me though because I've put in so much time on him. And that is one of the most fun aspects of this game to me.

You can do a lot more but I just don't get very much time to play video games so that's why it's taken me so long. I've had that same character for 8 months now. Which some of that my PS2 was broken.

The gameplay is what really makes this game so great. If the gameplay sucked, I couldn't put so much into a boxer. The matches are MUCH more dramatic and special than anything any EA game has offered me. I'm not saying every single match you play on VB2 is going to be Mosley vs. DLH 1 or anything, but a lot of them will be.

The AI is soooooo much better in VB2. It is hard to describe. Buy VB1 first just to get a slight taste. Let me warn you though, it is only a taste of what VB2 now has to offer. Especially pay attention to the different fighters' styles. That along with the AI are the elements that make VB2 so ****ing good.

There are at least 10 different fight styles. Then you got to wonder if the opponent is southpaw or right handed. If they're powerful or not. If you're powerful or not.

The attributes are very detailed. Just the muscle detail is amazing. you have different training to build up your biceps, your shoulders, your forearms, back, neck, thighs, calves, etc. Then you have heavy punch power and solid punch power. I forget which is which, but one is like your heavy-handedness I'll call it and the other is like your brute force (or lack of). It is a bit hard to explain. And i don't fully understand it. I think it deals with you can have a guy land solid punches meaning they land rather flush but if his heavy punch power stat isn't very high, he'll take more punches to put his opponent down.

And there are multiple factors that determine things like heart and stamina.

And okay this is the cool ****ing thing about matches. Say you're in a big Barrera-Morales type of fight. Trading bombs with an opponent of comparable stats.

Playing Fight Night or something, if you get to a certain number of times you've been knocked down, your ass is staying down. Like say the first 2 rounds you get knocked down 6 times but keep getting up and after those first two rounds you're beating the computer's ass until say the 12th and you've dropped him say 5 times. Then he gets lucky and lands that 7th knockdown. Even though you've got momentum and all on your side, your ass isn't getting up.

VB2- If you're in a situation like that, I'd say at least 75 percent of the time, as long as you've got a lot of momentum and you're not just getting one-sidedly killed, you'll get to get up. This experience is ****ing awesome when you're in a match.

And there are no knockdown meters because the game isn't built with an energy meter. It isn't just "empty the opponent's health bar of the same size to make him fall." Even on Fight Night, if you hide the health bars, they're still there, you just don't see them. On this, you really can get true one punch knockdowns-knockouts if your fighter has the power.

My guy does it all the time in sparring. Not so much in matches because my guy is a slick boxer and I like boxing my opponents rather than just getting them out of there.

VB2 is soooo deep, I'm not kidding you guys when I say it. I just spent at least 30 minutes typing this stuff. Later

joeboxer
03-13-2005, 04:51 AM
WOW! I need this game.

masterdirector
03-13-2005, 05:36 AM
oh yeah you can buy it from www.play-asia.com
You'll have to get your PS2 modded to play the import, but man it is well worth it. I'm hopefully this summer going to buy a japanese PS2 just to play this game and the next VB game coming out.

masterdirector
03-13-2005, 05:38 AM
might want to shop around, play asia has it for $60 but I got mine for $45 new, including shipping. shop around.

oh and look up Playstation 2 fliptop covers. Buy that and the Swap Magic discs rather than a mod chip.

zip
03-13-2005, 07:24 AM
vb2 is like a boxing simulator :)

Fallout
03-13-2005, 10:29 AM
Victorious Boxers 2 has more depth to the career mode. If you don't care about on-line play and real life boxers, it is a great game. However, the engine its self isn't as good at fight night round 2. You can't move and punch or move and block at the sametime. Its engine is very similar to fight night 2004.

Also, the fact you can play round 2 on-line adds months to the replay value. Its incredible to play against another human being at any time of the day.

masterdirector
03-16-2005, 02:14 PM
The engine I personally like a lot better than Fight Night. You can dodge, just can't block fully, although you can do the cross block and it blocks just not at all in the same way. Total Punch Control sucks, period. The defense is the only part of Fight Night that I like about the controls. The uppercut is better this year but could still be better. Clinching, while there, was a huge disappointment.

Clinching should allow for fighting in the clinch.

VB2 does not have clinching, unfortunately. Which doens't make sense because Kenta Kobashi's fighting style was hit and clinch, like John Ruiz.



Online Play is no different than playing against friends, except more frustrating since most of the online players want to wait until you select a regular guy and then they select their superman. And it is VERY annoying when they quit the match b/c you're schooling them. Definitely can be fun.

Months? Even with online play or human opponents, it'll still only entertain me for about a month or two. Styles make fights and without any styles present, it makes for a fairly weak game as far as gameplay goes.

That's where VB2 stands out, in the styles. And the control of the boxer is much more smooth. Like when you're dodging the punches, it isn't all choppy like on Fight Night. You know how on Fight Night if you lean back, they go flying back way too quickly? That's too choppy. VB2, you can still lean back quickly, but it is much more smooth.

bigdlb12
03-16-2005, 03:28 PM
VB is to Fight Night like Midnight Club is to Grand turismo

jack_the_rippuh
03-16-2005, 04:59 PM
So is it good, Zip?

masterdirector
03-16-2005, 05:34 PM
I don't follow that analogy. I hope you're not saying VB is worse than Fight Night cause you're a ****ing idiot if that's what you're saying. And if that's what you're saying, you clearly have never played VB2. Nobody who has played VB2 and Fight Night 2 can honestly say Fight Night 2 is better.

And even if you do right now while its still new, give it a couple months and tell me which game you're still playing and which one is collecting dust.

BadMagick
03-16-2005, 06:04 PM
VB is to Fight Night like Midnight Club is to Grand turismo

Uhh, I think you mean VB is to Fight Night as Grand Turismo is to Midnight Club. From the sounds of it, at least...

masterdirector
03-17-2005, 04:47 PM
If he's played them, that's the only thing he could possibly mean.

Bigdlb12's SAT score...140

Ranger2408
03-17-2005, 06:02 PM
fight night is alright, but i gotta play this VB2 it sounds like what i have desired from EA since i first heard about their boxing games.

It's simple reasoning that the audience is different in the west and they are trying to sell as many as they can by catering to an audience that is disinterested in boxing except for massive PPVs, which is more than the obssessed fans (like us :p ), not everyone has the patience/interest required for VB2.

I want it though when i possibly can.
Hey tell us about VB3, when you can. :)

bigdlb12
03-17-2005, 06:13 PM
VB was fun but if I were to want to check out VB2, where could I get a copy?

masterdirector
03-17-2005, 07:57 PM
Have to import VB2 and you have to get your PS2 modded so you can play it. Safest mod is the fliptop cover, which you can easily install yourself. You just take off your PS2 cover, put the fliptop cover on, and use the Swap Magic disc to boot import games. Works for copied games too.

You get VB2 from import stores such as Play-asia.com or lik-sang.com

Its around $50-60 on both those sites right now, but if you shop around you can find it for places for like $40. I got mine $45 including shipping but hell if I remember where.

They also have VB All-stars which is the latest game. I've heard great things about it, but I have to wait until I get some more disposable income, plus I'm still so content with VB2 that I don't need All-stars just yet. All-stars doesn't have the Boxer's Road mode, but supposedly plays a little better. I think it is more for fans of the Hajime No Ippo anime, which I am now a fan of, due to playing the VB games.

www.Fightingspiritdvd.com

watch the trailer of that dvd series. Anybody have netflix? you can get those episodes there. Very cool show.

jack_the_rippuh
03-17-2005, 08:00 PM
If everything Scott Baio said about this game is true...the **** is masturbation-worthy..

masterdirector
03-17-2005, 08:33 PM
choose your lube