The only person who can beat him at 147, is Shane Mosley.

0pponents why try and remove the belt from him, are going to have

to do so, by prying his iron clad grip.

I figure, 2 defenses of the title, and Zab is a LEGITIMATE p4p top

10 fighter. Regardless of his bout with Tszyu.

I would LOVE to see him fight anyone at 147.

Mayo--easy UD
Vargas--easy UD
Margarito---Zab by K.O.
Cintron--Zab by K.O.
Forrest--Zab by K.O.
Wright--Zab by UD
Tito--Zab by K.O.


assuming these fighters come back home to 147. Which is possible.

Your thoughts, on IMO one of the best fighters on the planet.

zab is a good fighter but i think some of you predictions are biased. tito wins because he is a lot bigger. wright prob wins because of his size and defensive skills.

zab is a good fighter but i think some of you predictions are biased. tito wins because he is a lot bigger. wright prob wins because of his size and defensive skills.

Zab and Tito's chins are suspect.
The southpaw would give Tito hell, then knock him out.
Tito would never see Zab in the ring, because he is 1 dimmensional.
Size wise.......Im not sure about that. Tito is taller and lankier, but that is a disadvantage when fighting a slick hard puncher.

as far as Winky goes.......Zab has field days with southpaws.

especially slow southpaws like wright. He is a walking shield,

Zab is a Kalishnakov AK-47 with armor piercing bullets.

Zab and Tito's chins are suspect.
The southpaw would give Tito hell, then knock him out.
Tito would never see Zab in the ring, because he is 1 dimmensional.
Size wise.......Im not sure about that. Tito is taller and lankier, but that is a disadvantage when fighting a slick hard puncher.

tito is one of the best punchers there is and combine that with a significant weight and height advantage i dont see the fight ending well for zab. titos chin is suspect but so is judah's chin.

i notice u dotn have zoo on yr list run, i wonder why :rolleyes:

Chicken anyone? how about a dance also

tito is one of the best punchers there is and combine that with a significant weight and height advantage i dont see the fight ending well for zab. titos chin is suspect but so is judah's chin.

Fact being:

Watch the DLH/Tito fight (robbery. and 1 sided)
Watch the Tito/B-Hop fight

Look what happens when he faces a boxer.

Zab is a better "pure" boxer than the two. and he hits harder.

I figure Winky will outclass Tito, then try his hand at the title. He will be facing an underdog, and true dark horse in boxing.

I dont think people give Zab the credit he deserves.

He has fought Class A competition, and demolished them all.

Fact being:

Watch the DLH/Tito fight (robbery. and 1 sided)
Watch the Tito/B-Hop fight

Look what happens when he faces a boxer.

Zab is a better "pure" boxer than the two. and he hits harder.

zab doesnt hit harder, tito is a top 3 puncher in boxing P4P.
tito has peroblems with boxers but i cant see zab beating tito, he just doesnt have the size or shin to stand uo to titos power.btw iam a big fan of zab but him beating tito is unlikely

zab doesnt hit harder, tito is a top 3 puncher in boxing P4P.
tito has peroblems with boxers but i cant see zab beating tito, he just doesnt have the size or shin to stand uo to titos power.btw iam a big fan of zab but him beating tito is unlikely

I said Zab hits harder than DLH and Hopkins.

Not tito.

Tito plods way too much,

and looked impressive against an overrated taylor made opponent

in his last outing.

I'm not a big Zab fan, However, i do believe that he is still one of the top fighters out there. I'm one of the few people who think Jeff Nady stopped that fight way to soon. This is what these people do for a living, the upper level of boxing, you give the guy a chance. He knows the risk. Besides most guys who suffer major damage are the ones who take a face beating (like tex cobb did against holmes) and never ever stagger. Maybe Kotz would have finished him, but damn, it's championship level, give him a chance. And speaking of Kotsza Zoo, I'm not saying he isn't a good fighter, but damn i haven't seen a fighter so overhyped in a long time. This guy is no where near invincible. HE's already been stoned cold knocked out once. And speaking of Welterweights, I do believe that Mosely has as good a chance of any at reigning supreme in that division. He was just too small at 154 but still looked crisp as hell. Oh well, i guess we'll see.

I have a few problems wiht you picks....heres how I see it


Mayorga= would be a tough fight but I would have to give the slight edge to judah
Vargas--depends on the ocndition of vargas....vargas at his prime would beat judah
Margarito---Zab by UD (margarito is very easy to hit)
Cintron--Zab by UD (cintron is still raw)
Forrest--forrest by UD very big strong boxer
Wright--WIRght is too big and srtong for judah
Tito--tito destroys zab wihtin 5

Mosley IMO is the only person who can beat Zab Judah.

At 147, Judah would eat Tszyu alive. It would be ugly.

Rahman landing a lucky punch on Lewis should not count.

The same happened in the Judah/Tszyu fight.

Rematch----Zab by K.O.

I just finished watching their 1st fight, and I have to say.

Untill "the punch" Zab was en route to knocking Tszyu out.

i think judah would beat tsyzu...and mosley is too slow to beat judah.....mosleys best days are behind him.judah vs cotto would be a goo tough fuight

I have a few problems wiht you picks....heres how I see it


Mayorga= would be a tough fight but I would have to give the slight edge to judah
Vargas--depends on the ocndition of vargas....vargas at his prime would beat judah
Margarito---Zab by UD (margarito is very easy to hit)
Cintron--Zab by UD (cintron is still raw)
Forrest--forrest by UD very big strong boxer
Wright--WIRght is too big and srtong for judah
Tito--tito destroys zab wihtin 5


damn Hey runknife this guy is screenname is zab judah yet he doesnt hug his nuts anywhere near as much as u, as a boxing community we liek to call it a fan with knowledge he knows who zab can and cant ebat lmao.

Tszyu landed a lucky punch on Judah? From what i saw, Judah surprised Tszyu with his speed in the first round. But in the second, Tszyu was controlling the fight finding range with his jab. At the time, Judah had a tendency to back up with his hands down. He was basically asking to get hit and Tszyu was more than willing to give it to him. Even if Nady had let the fight go on, Judah's defensive holes would've let him down.

And Judah beating Trinidad? Judah couldn't stand up to the punches of 140 pound Kostya Tszyu. You think he could stand up to a legitemate middleweight, who is possibly the best puncher in the game?

What's this about Judah being better boxers and punching harder than DLH and Hopkins? Based on what? DLH and Hopkins have consistently proven their skill and power against some world class opposition at a higher weightclass. In the end, they are in a different class than Judah, which isn't an insult. Not many fighters are on their level. Anyways, it doesn't matter if Judah is a better "pure" boxer. DLH and Hopkins are superior overall fighters.

Hopkins have consistently proven their skill and power against some world class opposition

Laughing.

Zab Judah has fought the better opposition throughout his career.

B-HOP fights mandatory nobodys. Im sorry man.

I agree in a rematch judah by ko. Especially now after the spinks fight he looked so impressive no show boating none of the bs he just fought it was so awesome.

Zab Judah is a cowardly scum of human flesh. In all your great boast you don`t mention Tsyzu very much. You think in a rematch Judah would murder him, i`d like to know how you arrived to this conclusion.
Also, a luckly punch, like the one you claim hit Judah in the match with Tsyzu, doen`t make you bounce up and down off the ring like Judah did.
Judah is a piece of ****, he has avoided punchers ever since the Tsyzu fight and he`ll continue to do so but one day he`ll have to face someone who can hit then its night night to the street thug whose best performance to date is against a referee!

I agree in a rematch judah by ko. Especially now after the spinks fight he looked so impressive no show boating none of the bs he just fought it was so awesome.

Like Berndstein said:

he was fighting like a bull.

If he fights like that:

Nobody in boxing can beat him.

Zab Judah is a cowardly scum of human flesh. In all your great boast you don`t mention Tsyzu very much. You think in a rematch Judah would murder him, i`d like to know how you arrived to this conclusion.
Also, a luckly punch, like the one you claim hit Judah in the match with Tsyzu, doen`t make you bounce up and down off the ring like Judah did.
Judah is a piece of ****, he has avoided punchers ever since the Tsyzu fight and he`ll continue to do so but one day he`ll have to face someone who can hit then its night night to the street thug whose best performance to date is against a referee!


No offense But I think tsyzu is over rated I always have.
**I SAID IT** :boxing:

Like Berndstein said:

he was fighting like a bull.

If he fights like that:

Nobody in boxing can beat him.

You enjoy pissing people off with facts! You should leave some **** not said now your going to get people going. hahahahaha

Laughing.

Zab Judah has fought the better opposition throughout his career.

B-HOP fights mandatory nobodys. Im sorry man.

Better opposition? You mean the likes of Weis, Corley, Pineda, Ward, Tszyu, Millett, and Witter? I'll admit, that's not a bad lineup. But i'll take: Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Glen Johnson (current lt. heavy champ), Antwun Echols, Howard Eastman, and William Joppy.

And are you only gonna reply to that one sentence of mine? What about those two other paragraphs i wrote?

You enjoy pissing people off with facts! You should leave some **** not said now your going to get people going. hahahahaha
VkreW :luvbed: runswcrackpipe

Better opposition? You mean the likes of Weis, Corley, Pineda, Ward, Tszyu, Millett, and Witter? I'll admit, that's not a bad lineup. But i'll take: Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Glen Johnson (current lt. heavy champ), Antwun Echols, Howard Eastman, and William Joppy.

And are you only gonna reply to that one sentence of mine? What about those two other paragraphs i wrote?


roy jones owned hopkins. glen johnson WTF?

VkreW :luvbed: runswcrackpipe

I barely know him, Most of the **** he says is **** i think about so I have **** in common but dont be a *** about it.

roy jones owned hopkins. glen johnson WTF?

Yeah, and Tszyu knocked out Judah. Runw/knives claimed Judah fought better opposition throughout his career, not beat better opposition.

And yes, Hopkins knocked out Glen Johnson, who recently beat Roy Jones and Antonio Tarver. When they met, Johnson was 32-0.

I think roy jones got really effected by going up in weight and coming down i think it really hurt his body and if he would of fought either of them before going up 25 pounds then trying to burn them off he would of beat tarver and johnson. judah has fought way better opponents that hopkins, the good fighters the fought hopkins moved up from light / welterweight.

Like Vkrew mentioned earlier:

I was also thoroughly impressed by Zab's victory over Corey Spinks. Say what you will about Spinks, he is not exciting, does not take chances...etc. But he is an excellent fighter. Zab showed patience with power punches, general ringship, and lighting speed.

That was a clinic:

Spinks has been in with some SERIOUS punchers, and they did hardly any damage to him. He took flush shots from Mayorga, and did not blink.

Zab nearly killed him.

we are dealing with a new breed of animal here.

Mosley IMO is the only person who can beat Zab Judah.

At 147, Judah would eat Tszyu alive. It would be ugly.

Rahman landing a lucky punch on Lewis should not count.

The same happened in the Judah/Tszyu fight.

Rematch----Zab by K.O.

I just finished watching their 1st fight, and I have to say.

Untill "the punch" Zab was en route to knocking Tszyu out.


...You must be hitting the crack pipe hard tonight!!! Zoo hurt him with the first big punch he landed. Judah can not withstand Zoo's power and would lose to him 10 out of ten times at any frickin weight you wanna pick. Zoo is naturally much bigger and stronger than Zab. Zab wasn't in route to anything resembling knocking Zoo out and you show your ignorance by saying such rediculous things.

At the time, Judah had a tendency to back up with his hands down. He was basically asking to get hit and Tszyu was more than willing to give it to him. Even if Nady had let the fight go on, Judah's defensive holes would've let him down.


Have you noticed how Judah showboated less in the Spinks fight. Other than when he had him hurt; and did that little shuffle.

other than that. He means business now. I feel he totally underestimated Tszyu. He even admitted that.

He admitted underestimating Tszyu because he is too arrogant to admit that Tszyu is simply too smart & good for him. It makes him feel better.

funny how knives mnitted pretty floyd and zab...knives knows floyd would win that contest

Everyone knows that..

only one way to find out.

I wonder what Tszyu would do to him in a rematch, teach him the second step to the Funky Chicken dance maybee?

Is their going to be a Judah-Spinks 3?

funny how knives mnitted pretty floyd and zab...knives knows floyd would win that contest


Judah can not beat Floyd. I said it before.

They will not fight though....because I do not see PBF going up to

147 for that fight. Yes I agree. Floyd has way too many skills.

When I say "Beat anyone" I am talking about the welterweight 147

pound division.

i still remember that uppercut from zab in the first round, zoo is to slow i think he busted a rahman like run w/knives said

i still remember that uppercut from zab in the first round, zoo is to slow i think he busted a rahman like run w/knives said

That was the classic defenition of a "lucky" punch.

i thought id be over the 2nd round for zoo

You know now that his thread is up Zab is the best welterweight in boxing right now. NC. ILL BET MY POINTS.

If you think that right hand Tszyu gave Judah was a lucky punch then you are a ****ing idiot.

Tszyu would've landed another one of those lucky punches and another and another that it wouldnt be so lucky......

WHAT. MIGHT AS WELL CLOSE HIS EYES AND SWING. That first round was what Tsyzu was what he was in for that night

Iron Clad Grip I say. Nobody can take the belts except Mosley.