Suppose Winky Wright gets his wish and gets a shot at Tito. What do ya'll think happens. Can he do it? Or will he go the way of Vargas and Mayorga?

IMO, Tito will KO Winky in 7. This is only going off of the Winky and Shane rematch. This is my first time seeing Winky fight. It looks like he can get hit with the left hook to often and that is to dangerous when it comes to fighting Tito. He also likes to come forward which is another plus for Tito.

I think the way Winky defends himself will be his downfall aginst Trinidad.
Relies too much on the "earmuffs", not on slipping shots.

Trinidad's excellent straight-right lead will start penetrating.....& then the two-fisted assult will follow.

Trinidad in 7.

Tito had the stuff to take on a brawler like Mayorga. My guess is that a technician like Winky will prove to be no more difficult. Winky's defence was somewhat lacking in this last fight and he cruises in the late rounds.

Tito KO 8.

Plus has anyone else noticed that Wright doesn't like to punch while the other guy does?

Since both Wright and Spinks want Trinidad, I think they should fight for him. What do you all think?

Anyway, I think that Trinidad can KO Winky Wright in 8..

I think that will be one of the most boring fights ever.

Are you serious? Tito wins big, and Wright looks like David Reid when its finally over.

I think Tito wins, but by KO. I think they should fight because this would be a perfect pre-Hopkins fight for Tito. Winky's defense is great and Tito needs fight against a big, tough, skilled guy like that before he takes on Bernard again. The Mayo fight wasnt good enough of a warm up.

I think Tito wins, but by KO. I think they should fight because this would be a perfect pre-Hopkins fight for Tito. Winky's defense is great and Tito needs fight against a big, tough, skilled guy like that before he takes on Bernard again. The Mayo fight wasnt good enough of a warm up.
Ding, ding, ding!

Wow that poll is crazy, no one even gives winky a chance to last 12 rds.

damn its 15-0 everyone says trinidad by KO, well gotta agree with that, dont thikn winky can take titos power

tito ko..and winky chin wont last as long as mayorga....i also think winky doesnt have much heart but we'll see...yeah this would be a good fight to set up tito for hopkins..cuz right now tito will get ko'ed by hopkins if he rushes a rematch...either way i think hopkins will always have titos number unless tito can change something in his attack...or learn to box

also..aint tito fighting sturm?????????

i also pick tito ko. winky is too stationary. if he stands in front of trinidad like that hes going to get blasted with hooks. maybe he'll come in with a different strategy, he MUST come in with something different other than come forward behind a right jab. if he was on his toes with the right jab, id give him a much better chance since he could bother trinidads lefthook with the jab.

also, fighting winky wont prepare him for hopkins at all . TOTALLY different fighters. hopkins is on his toes much more and harder to hit.

thats what i was kinda thinking...there is but one hopkins...and fight whoever you want...it will not prepare you for him....even fighting dlh doesnt prepare you for hopkins (hop doesnt tire out in late rounds)...i dont see how tito can win a rematch with hopkins really...maybe sturm can prepare you a little for hopkins but thats it...eastman and sturm would be the best to fight before hopkins

Winky is no match for Tito, plus I would rather see Felix vs. Felix so if Tito wins ppl don't start to say that "HE DIDN'T FIGHT A REAL MIDDLEWEIGHT" :cool:

I wanna say..Tito by TKO 12th round. But who knows...Winky's been doing superb lately and Tito's fight against Mayorga was amazing. THis would be an interesting fight to say the least.

I think this thread shows how overrated Tito is. Wright`s boxing ability is awesome. He didn`t fight badly in the Mosley rematch, Mosley fought a great fight and thats why it was close. Tito would have problems with Wright because of the boxing ability. It`s just like Hopkins said before he beat Tito, he claimed that if you keep on the move and jab to keep Tito off balance he has a big problem getting off with his shots. That happend 3 yrs ago when Hopkins gave him one of the most one sided world title beatings anyone has ever wittnessed. Now, i`m not saying Wright is as good as Hopkins, but if nard can box a shut out against Tito sure as hell that gives Wright a chance to win on points. I think if the fight happend that Wright would pull it off. He`s a smart fighter and he seems to up the level the bigger the fight ( Vargas, Mosley I ). I respect those who believe Tito will win but your talking about Wright as if he was average or something. Tito CAN be outboxed by a decent boxer, what evidence is their that he hasn`t got a decent chin?

i have respect for wrights boxing abilities. i believe hes a much better boxer than tito. however, boxing is all about match ups. the two guys that gave tito the most problems (dlh and ex) moved ALOT. they kept the jab in his face and were on their toes showing trinidads poor footwork , lack of head movement and his inability to get off power shots if hes not set. i have yet to see someone stand in front of trinidad and by effective, if hes able to set he can throw deadly accurate combinations and he will put you on your ass. i just cant picture winky or anyone really around 154-160 beating tito by standing right in front of him.

Tito simply doesn't have the slick boxing skills Winky has. Winky can absorb alot of punishment and take the force of many blows on his arms with his tight defense. Basically Winky is a hard target to hit and i think he will frustrate Tito with his style and that beautiful jab of his. Tito had a good performance against Mayorga and Tito has amazing power in both fists but Mayorga is as one dimensional as a professional fighter gets. Tito couldn't miss him and found combination punching easy on a still target. For years Winky has been avoided and underestimated and now he will finally prove himself as a great fighter. He's tough and has a very stable chin. Shane cannot hit as hard as Tito but he he got some tremendous accurate hits on Winky and he took them and answered back with his own or backed off on the counter. We all know Winky is not the heavyiest puncher there but his accurate consistant punching does enough to chip away at any opponent. Winky will score a UD victory over Tito.

Tito simply doesn't have the slick boxing skills Winky has. Winky can absorb alot of punishment and take the force of many blows on his arms with his tight defense. Basically Winky is a hard target to hit and i think he will frustrate Tito with his style and that beautiful jab of his. Tito had a good performance against Mayorga and Tito has amazing power in both fists but Mayorga is as one dimensional as a professional fighter gets. Tito couldn't miss him and found combination punching easy on a still target. For years Winky has been avoided and underestimated and now he will finally prove himself as a great fighter. He's tough and has a very stable chin. Shane cannot hit as hard as Tito but he he got some tremendous accurate hits on Winky and he took them and answered back with his own or backed off on the counter. We all know Winky is not the heavyiest puncher there but his accurate consistant punching does enough to chip away at any opponent. Winky will score a UD victory over Tito.

great post and i agree.
winky has got the chin, stance and skills to give tito nightmares, beating mayorga who is as easy to hit as they come proves little at all. A real lmiddle with skills could be too much for tito this early in his comeback.

winky ud.

Tito simply doesn't have the slick boxing skills Winky has. Winky can absorb alot of punishment and take the force of many blows on his arms with his tight defense. Basically Winky is a hard target to hit and i think he will frustrate Tito with his style and that beautiful jab of his. Tito had a good performance against Mayorga and Tito has amazing power in both fists but Mayorga is as one dimensional as a professional fighter gets. Tito couldn't miss him and found combination punching easy on a still target. For years Winky has been avoided and underestimated and now he will finally prove himself as a great fighter. He's tough and has a very stable chin. Shane cannot hit as hard as Tito but he he got some tremendous accurate hits on Winky and he took them and answered back with his own or backed off on the counter. We all know Winky is not the heavyiest puncher there but his accurate consistant punching does enough to chip away at any opponent. Winky will score a UD victory over Tito.


it would be a good thing for tito if winky blocks alot of shots with his arms. it takes the steam out of your punches eventually. thats when your guard goes down cause you can't even hold your gloves up. and with titos power that won't take long. if yuo think that his arms are going to save him i'm afraid your wrong. i think it will help tito get the ko.

Tito simply doesn't have the slick boxing skills Winky has. Winky can absorb alot of punishment and take the force of many blows on his arms with his tight defense. Basically Winky is a hard target to hit and i think he will frustrate Tito with his style and that beautiful jab of his. Tito had a good performance against Mayorga and Tito has amazing power in both fists but Mayorga is as one dimensional as a professional fighter gets. Tito couldn't miss him and found combination punching easy on a still target. For years Winky has been avoided and underestimated and now he will finally prove himself as a great fighter. He's tough and has a very stable chin. Shane cannot hit as hard as Tito but he he got some tremendous accurate hits on Winky and he took them and answered back with his own or backed off on the counter. We all know Winky is not the heavyiest puncher there but his accurate consistant punching does enough to chip away at any opponent. Winky will score a UD victory over Tito.
Vasquez knocked him down 5 times and vasquez does not have the power of tito, winky does not have the chin to stand up to titos power.
winky will go the way of vargas.

it would be a good thing for tito if winky blocks alot of shots with his arms. it takes the steam out of your punches eventually. thats when your guard goes down cause you can't even hold your gloves up. and with titos power that won't take long. if yuo think that his arms are going to save him i'm afraid your wrong. i think it will help tito get the ko.

I never said his arms would completely save him. His talents and natural ability will prove too much for Tito. Winky is by far the better boxer at this moment in time and i think he'll be too much for Tito. Judging Tito on the Mayorga fight is abit too quick for my liking.

Vasquez knocked him down 5 times and vasquez does not have the power of tito, winky does not have the chin to stand up to titos power.
winky will go the way of vargas.

Fernando Vargas knocked Tito down and couldn't knock Winky down. This is all swings and roundabouts. Winky has come on along way since then. Mosley hits harder than Vasquez and he hit Winky cleanly and couldn't put him down. Don't underestimate Winkys chin. Tito has good power but it's a little one dimensional. Like i said earlier if Winky could stand up against Fernando's power then i don't doubt that he will be able to stand up to Tito's.

I never said his arms would completely save him. His talents and natural ability will prove too much for Tito. Winky is by far the better boxer at this moment in time and i think he'll be too much for Tito. Judging Tito on the Mayorga fight is abit too quick for my liking.

i like winky and think he is a great fighter. i agree that his arms are not his only defense. i just think it is way too soon for him to step up to the like of trinidad.

Fernando Vargas knocked Tito down and couldn't knock Winky down. This is all swings and roundabouts. Winky has come on along way since then. Mosley hits harder than Vasquez and he hit Winky cleanly and couldn't put him down. Don't underestimate Winkys chin. Tito has good power but it's a little one dimensional. Like i said earlier if Winky could stand up against Fernando's power then i don't doubt that he will be able to stand up to Tito's.

as the fight results show....tito has alot more power than vargas. plus tito is alot more accurate with his power than vargas. thats one of the reasons tito his always underestimated.

i think its a real interesting fight, one that wright can win.... he should at least be competitive, but i make tito the favorite....

Tito`s power is his only advantage here. I think this is a dangerous fight for Tito and i`d admire if he took it but Wright has matured into a world class pro. I think he has what it takes to beat Trinidad!

as the fight results show....tito has alot more power than vargas. plus tito is alot more accurate with his power than vargas. thats one of the reasons tito his always underestimated. Exactly, he is a puncher but he is efficient with his punches, barely wastes them.

i like winky and think he is a great fighter. i agree that his arms are not his only defense. i just think it is way too soon for him to step up to the like of trinidad.

I think it's too soon for the likes of Tito to be fighting Winky and i sincerely mean that. Tito has been out of action along time and he did comeback and beat Mayorga convincingly but back to the point i made earlier is that Mayorga was setup for Tito and thats the truth. They couldn't have picked a more safer fight for Tito to make him look impressive. Everyone knows Mayorga held his best power potential at Welterweight and if Mayorga couldn't knock out Spinks then how is he going to stop Tito. Secondly we all know Tito is the best boxer out there so putting him in with Mayorga made him look better than he may be because we all know that Mayorga is just a one dimensional fight. Take away Mayorga's power at Middleweight and what do you have??? A talentless powerless brawler.

Tito was great before he retired but we haven't seen him at his best since he came out of retirement. Lets see him fight a very good boxer and see if Tito is the same fighter he was and i'm not meaning Cory Spinks either. Winky has been active and has improved tremendously over the years. He has finally hit his peak and is ready for anyone.

Winky Fan....


Tell me of Winky's multi-dimensions ?


I have yet to see Winky do anything besides move forward, block shots, & punch.
I have yet to see him outslick a guy.
Just because Winky CANNOT punch very hard, it doesn't mean he's multi-dimensional....
Winky Wright is the most orthodox southpaw (sounds like an oxymoron) you will see.


BTW......Vasquez was indeed a harder puncher than Vargas....& Felix Trinidad is one of the best punchers of the last twenty years- a FAR bigger hitter than Fernando Vargas.

Exactly, he is a puncher but he is efficient with his punches, barely wastes them.

He is going to waste alot of punches on Winky because if he doesn't he is going to get outboxed. Winky is naturally a defensive master. Besides do you really think Winky will stand there and let Tito fire from all angles like Maryorga did? Because that isn't going to happen.

He is going to waste alot of punches on Winky because if he doesn't he is going to get outboxed. Winky is naturally a defensive master. Besides do you really think Winky will stand there and let Tito fire from all angles like Maryorga did? Because that isn't going to happen.


Winky....

Your boy hasn't shown any kind of exceptional foot or head movement.

His defense consists of letting the foe punch & BLOCKING his stuff.
Winky rarely punces while his foe does. he's NOT a boxer.

Winky Fan....


Tell me of Winky's multi-dimensions ?


I have yet to see Winky do anything besides move forward, block shots, & punch.
I have yet to see him outslick a guy.
Just because Winky CANNOT punch very hard, it doesn't mean he's multi-dimensional....
Winky Wright is the most orthodox southpaw (sounds like an oxymoron) you will see.


Which Winky have you been watching because we definatly have not been watching the same fighter if that is your view on him. Obviously in the comment you just made you have picked out three obvious things that most fighters do and thats move forward, block and punch. Have you actually seen any of his other fights apart from the Mosley ones? Winky is a slick fighter who can role with the punches and rarely gets caught. He fought Mosley differently to win popularity. Thats the only reason why he put his hands down in the ring and let Mosley hit him. Winky has never done anything that wild before. You fighter the fighter in front of you and thats what Winky does. His style against Mosley was different because he knew Mosley could hurt him bad. Winky is never that much of a come forward fighter as he was in the Mosley fight. When your fighting a basic fighter you don't have to be flash all the time. Trust me Tito will have a shock just like you will if they ever fight. It's always good to jump on the obvious bandwagons when the hype is there but thats all there is with Tito, uncertain hype because that MAyorga fight only proed that Tito could beat a Welterweight brawler.

Winky....

Your boy hasn't shown any kind of exceptional foot or head movement.

His defense consists of letting the foe punch & BLOCKING his stuff.
Winky rarely punces while his foe does. he's NOT a boxer.

Not a boxer? Just because he doesn't punch back alot when he is underfire it doesn't mean he is not a boxer. He is a defensively minded fighter who uses his intelligence alot. Sometimes it's not worth getting into a exchange when someone is firing at you. Like i just said he didn't have any need to show exceptional movenment against the like of Shane because it wasn't needed. Shane is a come forward fighter and when Winky was stood infront of him he didn't know what to do. Winky fought the best way he could have for that fight and that was sticking with Shane.

You say Winky is slick. When does he move his head. I don't remember seeing that either. He blocks punches.

Really, Winky is more of a pressure fighter than a "slick boxer". He walks his opponents down and smothers them with his jab. I really don't recall seeing him back pedal too much.

You say Winky is slick. When does he move his head. I don't remember seeing that either. He blocks punches.

Yet again another poster making his opinion up on the Mosley fight. Yes he does block alot of punches but that doesn't mean he is not slick. He's slick on the inside when trading off.

Jump on the Trinidad bandwagon ?

I've been a fan of his since he beat Mo Blocker, so drop that routine.

I have seen Winky fight TOO MUCH, in fact.

12 rounds....12 rounds....12 rounds....12 rounds.

In fact, I've seen more rounds by Winky Wright than by any other active fighter, & what I see is a VERY SOLID fighter.
But, a very BASIC one.

Let me tell you what would happen if Winky fought the same Ricardo Mayorga that Tito fought....
Wright would win a decison. He'd never hurt Mayorga, never drop him, & would barely mark up his face.
&, at some point....he WOULD get hit by Mayorga, & probably hurt, though not seriously.

Really, Winky is more of a pressure fighter than a "slick boxer". He walks his opponents down and smothers them with his jab. I really don't recall seeing him back pedal too much.

He started to back pedal a little in the middle part of the fight against Shane. At first he was coming forward but then he started backing off a little. He can box well on the counter.

fan

I have seen Wright against McKart, Frazier, Candelo, Hernandez and yes both Mosely fights. NAME AN INSTANCE where he was "slick". He WALKS HIS OPPONENTS DOWN.

He may have been a slick southpaw early in his career, but he is not anymore judging from his most recent fights.

He started to back pedal a little in the middle part of the fight against Shane. At first he was coming forward but then he started backing off a little. He can box well on the counter.

Box well on the counter???? What does this mean?

Jump on the Trinidad bandwagon ?

I've been a fan of his since he beat Mo Blocker, so drop that routine.

I have seen Winky fight TOO MUCH, in fact.

12 rounds....12 rounds....12 rounds....12 rounds.

In fact, I've seen more rounds by Winky Wright than by any other active fighter, & what I see is a VERY SOLID fighter.
But, a very BASIC one.

Let me tell you what would happen if Winky fought the same Ricardo Mayorga that Tito fought....
Wright would win a decison. He'd never hurt Mayorga, never drop him, & would barely mark up his face.
&, at some point....he WOULD get hit by Mayorga, & probably hurt, though not seriously.

Alright maybe i was wrong to put you in the bandwagon category because you obviously know your stuff but you seem to underestimate Winkys capabilities alot. You cannot based what one happen in one fight and compare it to another that hasn't happened because thats not how boxing works. You may have got the impression i don't like Tito and that is false. I think it's too soon for Tito to be looking at Winky because Winky can make frustrate and box very well.

fan

I have seen Wright against McKart, Frazier, Candelo, Hernandez and yes both Mosely fights. NAME AN INSTANCE where he was "slick". He WALKS HIS OPPONENTS DOWN.

He may have been a slick southpaw early in his career, but he is not anymore judging from his most recent fights.

Thats what i was saying, he fought the Mosley fights differently to his previous fights. He is slick when he is out boxing his opponents down.

Alright maybe i was wrong to put you in the bandwagon category because you obviously know your stuff but you seem to underestimate Winkys capabilities alot. You cannot based what one happen in one fight and compare it to another that hasn't happened because thats not how boxing works. You may have got the impression i don't like Tito and that is false. I think it's too soon for Tito to be looking at Winky because Winky can make frustrate and box very well.


I'm basing this on a BUNCH of Winky fights !

With Robert Frazier.....McKart (one of the WORST "rivalries" in boxing history)...Vargas.....Mosley.

Box well on the counter???? What does this mean?

It means that he fights well when he's countering.

I'm basing this on a BUNCH of Winky fights !

With Robert Frazier.....McKart (one of the WORST "rivalries" in boxing history)...Vargas.....Mosley.

I guess we have a utter difference of opinion here. I think Winky will beat Tito quite convingly.

You have to admit that Tito does need to prove himself more. How can you tell 100% that the old Tito is really back after a victory over a one sided brawler like Mayorga? That fight was made easy for him.

I love how so many act like Felix Trinidad is some kind of HAIL MARY-type winger !

Does anyone think he could be as successful for so long by just walking out & HOPING he lands some prayer ?


Just because the dude can punch & WANTS/SEEKS to put mofos out, it doesn't make him a Neandrethal.
He's patient.....& sets up beautiful, accurate, power shots. Many of which are counter shots. He puts himself in the position to be effective.

I love how so many act like Felix Trinidad is some kind of HAIL MARY-type winger !

Does anyone think he could be as successful for so long by just walking out & HOPING he lands some prayer ?


Just because the dude can punch & WANTS/SEEKS to put mofos out, it doesn't make him a Neandrethal.
He's patient.....& sets up beuatiful, accurate, power shots. Man of which are counter shots. He puts himself in the position to be effective.

I never tried to take away any of Tito's general ability in the ring. My comparissons were to Winky talent to which in certain departments Tito loses out on. Tito was a great fighter with alot of assets, i just don't think the Mayorga fight proved that they still exist completely. When he lands those punches on a top class boxer then i will be convinced he has everything.

I guess we have a utter difference of opinion here. I think Winky will beat Tito quite convingly.

You have to admit that Tito does need to prove himself more. How can you tell 100% that the old Tito is really back after a victory over a one sided brawler like Mayorga? That fight was made easy for him.



Winky....

Tito, no matter whether Mayorga was made to order for him or not.....looked SPECTACULAR for a guy who was out of the sport for 2 1/2 years.

Winky Wright could fight 4x a year, & would only look HALF that good against Mayorga.

I'll guarantee YOU did not expect Trinidad to have it that easy against Mayorga.
Lots of hindsight from lots of posters on here.
Same asses who picked Mayorga to win, are using EXCUSES now.
How come these same geniuses didn't think of this **** beforehand ?

It means that he fights well when he's countering.

Who is this not true for?

But Winky MAINLY moves forward and jabs.

Winky....

Tito, no matter whether Mayorga was made to order for him or not.....looked SPECTACULAR for a guy who was out of the sport for 2 1/2 years.

Winky Wright could fight 4x a year, & would only look HALF that good against Mayorga.

I'll guarantee YOU did not expect Trinidad to have it that easy against Mayorga.
Lots of hindsight from lots of posters on here.
Same asses who picked Mayorga to win, are using EXCUSES now.
How come these same geniuses didn't think of this **** beforehand ?

I admit that i did not expect Tito to have it that easy at all and he did make Mayorga look very easy but down on paper and the fighter that Tito was before kinda clarified him winning for me. We all knew before Tito entered that ring that he was a respectful puncher. Tito earns his respect best with his power. I always thought Tito would win that fight and i always thought that it was catered for him. A good hand picked opponent.

Who is this not true for?

But Winky MAINLY moves forward and jabs.

Yes he does depending on the fighter in front of him.

When didn't he do that?

When didn't he do that?

He doesn't do that always through every single fight. Do you really want me to get all technical and go down to specific rounds and minutes? Because if you do then you know what you can do.

Just give me one fight where he didn't do that. One opponent where Winky fought differently from the pattern I described.

Just give me one fight where he didn't do that. One opponent where Winky fought differently from the pattern I described.

His basic style is to come forward as he does do that most fights. I cannot name a fight specifically because he does do it most fights but not all the way through. That is his basic way of starting fights.

His basic style is to come forward as he does do that most fights. I cannot name a fight specifically because he does do it most fights but not all the way through. That is his basic way of starting fights.


Well....
Felix Trinidad boxed, moved backwards/side to side....against Larry Barnes.

That's one more fight, where Tito showed his versatility, than Wright has.

Well....
Felix Trinidad boxed, moved backwards/side to side....against Larry Barnes.

That's one more fight, where Tito showed his versatility, than Wright has.

Ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaa Just wait for the fight if it ever happens. You'll have to eat all these words you are spitting at me. Wright has far more versatility than Tito when it comes down to it.

Ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaa Just wait for the fight if it ever happens. You'll have to eat all these words you are spitting at me. Wright has far more versatility than Tito when it comes down to it.


You're just saying that because he can't punch.
He's every bit as one-dimensional as Trinidad is.....except Tito's one dimension gets people out of there quicker.

You're just saying that because he can't punch.
He's every bit as one-dimensional as Trinidad is.....except Tito's one dimension gets people out of there quicker.

Winky is a complete fighter who can more than handle the likes of Tito and the amusing part of this is that your right he hasn't got the power and he will still put Tito in his place. Winky is not one dimensional and i would not class Tito as that either. Tito was a very good fighter and a glimse of him showed in the Mayorga fight.

When this fight takes place i'll remember this conversation, then i can start educating you in the sport of boxing. (I'm joking by the way)

that would be such a great fight, i just don't think that winky has faced anyone with nearly as much power as tito. tito late round ko

Winky is a complete fighter who can more than handle the likes of Tito and the amusing part of this is that your right he hasn't got the power and he will still put Tito in his place. Winky is not one dimensional and i would not class Tito as that either. Tito was a very good fighter and a glimse of him showed in the Mayorga fight.

When this fight takes place i'll remember this conversation, then i can start educating you in the sport of boxing. (I'm joking by the way)

Nah....what you'll do is make excuses.(I'm serious by the way)

Wink...

you were asked to cite fights where Winky Wright showed a style change....& you couldn't.


If Winky had more than one-dimension....he'd have kept Vargas from mounting that late rally.
He'd have also found a way to make ONE ROUND OUT OF 32, against McKart, look different from all the others. He didn't.

I'll make no excuses for what happens in this future confrontation as i am a man of my word and beliefs.

Your right i couldn't cite fights that Winky shows complete style change because he doesn't. I said earlier that he has a certain way of starting off and that is his regular style but he doesn't fight entire 12 rounds like that. If YOU want me to get all technical and start stating rounds where he changed his style to adapt then you know what you can do too. (I'm serious by the way)

I question your knowledge of the sport if you can really sit there and call Winky one dimensional.

Wink...

you were asked to cite fights where Winky Wright showed a style change....& you couldn't.


If Winky had more than one-dimension....he'd have kept Vargas from mounting that late rally.
He'd have also found a way to make ONE ROUND OUT OF 32, against McKart, look different from all the others. He didn't.

he doesnt change his style he doesnt need too he is a southpaw box fighter nothing more nothing less.
this style in itself is awkward and unorthdox enough to give opponents problems. He certianly is no slick mover as was being intimated earlier on, but what he does he does, excellently.
He woudl give tito all the problems he could hope for if they meet next up. The more fights tito has on his comeback trail the more it favours him, but at present I can see Winky outpointing tito, **** yes I can.
Those who predict an easy night for tito are overestimating his win against mayorga who always has been easy to hit once you back him up, and underestimating exactly how much a pain in the arse Winky's style can be.

I'll make no excuses for what happens in this future confrontation as i am a man of my word and beliefs.

Your right i couldn't cite fights that Winky shows complete style change because he doesn't. I said earlier that he has a certain way of starting off and that is his regular style but he doesn't fight entire 12 rounds like that. If YOU want me to get all technical and start stating rounds where he changed his style to adapt then you know what you can do too. (I'm serious by the way)

I question your knowledge of the sport if you can really sit there and call Winky one dimensional.


Actually....the fact that you think Winky isn't one-dimensional shows me you have a generic, by-th- books view of Winky.

He doesn't outslick guys.....he doesn't knock them out....he doesn't even knock 'em down.
All he does is do the same thing over & over. It's effective, but also ONE THING.

You think he's multi-dimensional because he doesn't KO anyone. I see this all the time from pseudo-experts.

great minds jabs...great minds.... ;)

Actually....the fact that you think Winky isn't one-dimensional shows me you have a generic, by-th- books view of Winky.

He doesn't outslick guys.....he doesn't knock them out....he doesn't even knock 'em down.
All he does is do the same thing over & over. It's effective, but also ONE THING.

You think he's multi-dimensional because he doesn't KO anyone. I see this all the time from pseudo-experts.

Did i say he was multi dimensional either? No! But he is definatly not one dimensional either. You keep licking Tito's ass but you'll be exposed as a fraud just like Tito will when he meets Winky.

Peace.....

Did i say he was multi dimensional either? No! But he is definatly not one dimensional either. You keep licking Tito's ass but you'll be exposed as a fraud just like Tito will when he meets Winky.

Peace.....


Ahhhh...you've lost this argument, & are now showing that you're a *****.

Sore loser.

Ahhhh...you've lost this argument, & are now showing that you're a *****.

Sore loser.

Argument? I thought we were debating. You have your opinion and i have mine. It's just a clash of opinions thats all. Chillout man.

Believe it or not i do respect your opinion but i just don't agree with it thats all.

Ahhhh...you've lost this argument, & are now showing that you're a *****.

Sore loser.


unnecessary. doesnt always have to be war jabbs!

I think Winky could hand Tito his ass on a platter and outbox Tito to a lopsided UD and he'd still get no respect from those 25+ people who voted that Tito would KO him. When is Ronald Wright going to get some fakking respect around here. I think he's on top of his game right now...even though his defense isn't about movement he'd still frustrate Tito and I personally believe that he'd beat Felix by close decision.

His basic style is to come forward as he does do that most fights. I cannot name a fight specifically because he does do it most fights but not all the way through. That is his basic way of starting fights.

Okay, discussion is over man. You have failed to make your point. Stick to your arguement if you like, but because you cannot back it up with anything, it will just make you look foolish.

unnecessary. doesnt always have to be war jabbs!

JPW we are all boxing geeks here. We are allowed to gloat.

JPW we are all boxing geeks here. We are allowed to gloat.


im no geek brother i assure you. ;)

I think Winky could hand Tito his ass on a platter and outbox Tito to a lopsided UD and he'd still get no respect from those 25+ people who voted that Tito would KO him. When is Ronald Wright going to get some fakking respect around here. I think he's on top of his game right now...even though his defense isn't about movement he'd still frustrate Tito and I personally believe that he'd beat Felix by close decision.


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I have always given props to Winky Wright....& have stated that he is a super-solid, effective fighter.


Just because I don't think he can beat Tito, how's that disrespectful ?

Winky is a complete fighter who can more than handle the likes of Tito and the amusing part of this is that your right he hasn't got the power and he will still put Tito in his place. Winky is not one dimensional and i would not class Tito as that either. Tito was a very good fighter and a glimse of him showed in the Mayorga fight.

When this fight takes place i'll remember this conversation, then i can start educating you in the sport of boxing. (I'm joking by the way)
Do you know what happened to Winky when fighting Julio César Vásquez? He got knocked down FIVE times in four different rounds! I don't think that Vásquez hits as hard as Tito so just wait until they step in the ring. Winky uses his peek-a-boo style to fight which will leave him open for the left hook to the body followed by the left hook upstairs when he drops his hands to protect the body. Look for Tito to WALK HIM DOWN and kill him in less than 7 rounds.

Did i say he was multi dimensional either? No! But he is definatly not one dimensional either. You keep licking Tito's ass but you'll be exposed as a fraud just like Tito will when he meets Winky.

Peace.....
You say he's not one-dimensional but he's not multi-dimensional either? So, he is no-dimensional then, right? I mean, if he doesn't have one dimension and he doesn't have more than one then he surely must have none! You, sir, are an idiot!

Winky deserves respect and I really don't think there is a fighter from 154 down that can beat him but as soon as he steps to middlewieght and into the ring with Tito I think he gets clobbered like a Pistons fan by Ron Artest!

Do you know what happened to Winky when fighting Julio César Vásquez? He got knocked down FIVE times in four different rounds! I don't think that Vásquez hits as hard as Tito so just wait until they step in the ring. Winky uses his peek-a-boo style to fight which will leave him open for the left hook to the body followed by the left hook upstairs when he drops his hands to protect the body. Look for Tito to WALK HIM DOWN and kill him in less than 7 rounds.

in fairness that was ten years ago, he is far better fighter now than he was then.

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I have always given props to Winky Wright....& have stated that he is a super-solid, effective fighter.


Just because I don't think he can beat Tito, how's that disrespectful ?

Not you directly...unless you are speaking as the royal we. :D

The vibe I'm getting from this thread Jabs is that Tito would walk through Winky Wright. Like it'd be some sort of cakewalk or something. The three guys that come to mind when I think of fighters being on top of their game right now are Hopkins, Morales, and Wright. I mean, just look at the posts from PRboxfan...now I know he's sticking up for his guy and all that...but come on. Everyones entitled to their opinion and I know this. I just think the whole Tito making Winky look like a defenseless, hopeless chump bit is a bit dilusional. I dont' think Wright would fight Tito the same way he did Shane (in terms of walking him down) and I don't think Tito would like that jab in his face all night either.

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I am not sure what Tito is gonna have trouble with. He may have trouble getting through Winky's guard at the beginning, but he will solve him eventually. I am not sure that Winky will do anything which will actually trouble Tito.