This has been a great rivalry over the years and it promises to continue with such fights as Cintron vs. Margarito looming. Puerto Rico is a very small island but has managed to create some Hall of Fame fighters. Such fighters include Tito Trinidad, Edwin Rosario, Wilfred Benitiz, Sixto Escobar, Hector Camacho, and Wilfredo Gomez. Mexico has given us both quantity and quality. JC Superstar, Lupe Pintor, Cuevas, Salvador Sanchez, Barrera, Morales, Jose Luis Castillo. and the list goes on. The question here is which of these two countries has produced the BEST fighters! IMO Mexico squeezes out an edge in terms of fighters. I’ve heard through the grape vine that Puerto Rico actually has an edge in terms of winners of championship fights amongst Puerto Ricans and Mexicans. I can’t see how that’s the case (Sanchez over Benitez, Chavez over Camacho and Rosario are ones that stand out) but maybe that is true. So who would you take…Chavez or Trinidad!

In Mexico boxing is almost national sports like soccer. so best asletes
try to play it earlier. so greatest boxers has been appered continuously .I guess. so puertorican does.

It could be somehow difficult to determine which country has produced the best fighters, at least in my opinion. To begin with, some rules would have to be established since both, Puertoricans and Mexicans, claim as their own fighters, and for that matter any athlete, whose parents were born in the country. This is good because it demonstrates that both countries are extremely proud of their heritage. Even the historical antagonism brought by the premise is good for the sport because the stereotype of the fighters from Puerto Rico and Mexico is one of true warriors, that even when outclassed, will not accept defeat and will not give up. I think this is the true spirit of the sport, not only skills, but heart. Skills can be nurtured, the heart you have to be born with. As far as which country has the edge in championship fights between them I read an article on a Puerto Rico local newspaper stating that Puerto Rico had the edge but that it was close. I do not know if that is true or not but I am sure that the historians of this site will clarify it. As far a Chavez or Trinidad I have no option but to go with Trinidad. I have nothing but respect for Chavez but not knowing when enough is enough hurts his legacy.:boxing:

this has flame thread written all over it

Hmmm....which country has produced the best fighters.....?

ERIK MORALES

this has flame thread written all over it


I couldn't agree with you more but, lets hope that we can keep this as a mature & non bias conversation.

In my opinion this is an issue that can go back & forth forever because of the quality fighters that both countries have produced. I would hesitate to choose one because of me being PR and my wife being Mexican and my son having the best of both worlds... on top of that I think if I chose one I would be forced to sleep on the couch...Lmao...nah but,seriously Moonra69 said it the best. Those 2 blood lines are fire in the sport of boxing.

i aint mexican but MEXICO no doubt
look at the populations 2
Mexico is gonna have a lot of fighters
so mexico
but Puerto Rico has a good ratio

Puerto Rico and Mexico could exchange "Population Size"

and Mexico would still produce better fighters.

This is going to sound racist, which I am not;

but;

A Mexican can kick a Puerto Rican's ass any day of the week.

Puerto Rico and Mexico could exchange "Population Size"

and Mexico would still produce better fighters.

This is going to sound racist, which I am not;

but;

A Mexican can kick a Puerto Rican's ass any day of the week.

Of course there's always an idiot that comes in a thread and starts the flaming. What Criteria are you basing your ignorant thoughts on?? If you can't post anything worth reading then don't post.

i dunno run im sure tito can whoop ass to :D

OF course, mexicans are by nature stronger :)

Kidding -- I think Puerto Ricos more of an up and coming, Mexico's been putting out quality fighters consistently for the past few decades now.

Now, comparing Mexico to the whole of the Caribbean -- we all know that there's not competition there ;)

why do we even care what nationality they r? if there great fighters hey cool

Nicely put Sturm.

[QUOTE=delaboxeo]OF course, mexicans are by nature stronger :)

Kidding -- I think Puerto Ricos more of an up and coming,

You're kidding right?? Come on Vato don't get it twisted.

Of course there's always an idiot that comes in a thread and starts the flaming. What Criteria are you basing your ignorant thoughts on?? If you can't post anything worth reading then don't post.


yeah. I am the idiot, ok troll. :kabong:

Mexico is notorious for having the best boxing trainers,

and Mexicans fight with a chip on their shoulder.

yeah. I am the idiot :kabong:


I'm glad you see it my way... :D

OF course, mexicans are by nature stronger :)

Kidding -- I think Puerto Ricos more of an up and coming, Mexico's been putting out quality fighters consistently for the past few decades now.

Now, comparing Mexico to the whole of the Caribbean -- we all know that there's not competition there ;)

Cuba can make a strong case in this situation.

This thread topic should read: "Cuba V.S. Mexico"

Cuba can make a strong case in this situation.

This thread topic should read: "Cuba V.S. Mexico"


I think you have some type of hatred towards the people from the PR island. Did you get ****ed up by one?? Because that's what it sounds like.

still Mexico wins by UD

Dont even mind RunwCrackpipe, he thinks Castillo will become P4P #1, hes a joke, I hate threads like this who give these losers a chance to let off hate, we all know who #1 is, even if they dont want to admit it.

Dont even mind RunwCrackpipe, he thinks Castillo will become P4P #1, hes a joke, I hate threads like this who give these losers a chance to let off hate, we all know who #1 is, even if they dont want to admit it.

Welcome to the Information Age.

if you would study some more, you would read that Castillo has never been knocked down, or out legitimately.

You, as well as a host of others, have predicted a "Diego Knockout"

you do a decent job making yourself look like the jackoff you are:

when you say "Trinidad Won Every Round of the Oscar fight" etc.

you may be right about me being a "Hater:,

but I am not a biased dickface who thinks Puerto Rico is taking over the world.

you may be right about me being a "Hater:,

but I am not a biased dickface who thinks Puerto Rico is taking over the world.
I know your jealous of Puerto Ricans, thats all right, jealous ones will allways envy, I can back up what I say, its not my fault we are so damn good :cool:, download the song from my sig.

P.S. I never said Trinidad beat Oscar every round :rolleyes:

Damn I always knew there has been a rivalry between us Mexicans and Puerto Ricans in boxing. It never has bothered me and it never will cause I know that there is way more Mexican fighters than Puerto Ricans. We both have had our great champs and thats all that matters,but there is no doubt Mexico comes out on top. Im basing his on population with u cant argue. Other than that my respect goes out for Puerto Ricans as well they should respect us Mexicans.

And if dont believe what I said check out the rankings and tell me how many Mexicans to Puerto Ricans there is. Pound for pound rankings has always had atleast 2 Mexicans on it. Currently it has 3.

HERE (http://www.********boxing.com/Ring/Ring021305.htm)

here's the list of mexican champions :
in spanish

Peso Semi Completo:175 libras
JULIO CESAR GONZALEZ : O.M.B



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Peso Super Mediano:
Ninguno



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Peso Mediano:160 libras
Oscar de La Hoya: O.MB



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PESO SUPERWELTER (69.900 Kgs)/154 libras

Oscar De La Hoya C.M.B, A.M.B

Alejandro ' Terra ' Garcia A.M.B

Guadalupe Aquino C.M.B

Raúl'Diamante" Márquez F.I.B

Luis Ramon ' yoriboy ' Campas F.I.B



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PESO WELTER(66.700 Kgs)./147 libras

José A. "Mantequilla" Nápoles: C.M.B, A.M.B

Carlos Palomino C.M.B

Pipino Cuevas González A.M.B

Jorge Vaca C.M.B

Genaro León O.M.B

José Luis "Maestrito" López O.M.B

Antonio Margarito Montiel O.M.B



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PESO SUPERLIGERO (63.500 Kgs)/140 libras

José "Battling Shaw" Pérez*

René Arredondo C.M.B

Julio César Chávez C.M.B, F.I.B

Carlos "Bolillo" González O.M.B



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PESO LIGERO (61.200 Kgs)/135 libras

Juan Zurita N.B.A

Lauro "Tigre" Salas N.B.A

Erubey "Chango" Carmona C.M.B

Rodolfo "Gato" González C.M.B

José Luis Ramírez C.M.B, A.M.B

Julio César Chávez C.M.B, A.M.B

César ' huesitos 'Bazán C.M.B

Mauricio Aceves O.M.B

Miguel Angel González C.M.B

Rafael Ruelas F.I.B

José Luis Castillo C.M.B

Javier " Chatito " Jauregui F.I.B

Julio ' The Kid " Diaz F.I.B

Juan " the bull " Diaz



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PESO SUPERPLUMA (59.00 Kgs) /130 libras

Ricardo Arredondo C.M.B

Rafael "Bazooka" Limón C.M.B

Julio César Chávez C.M.B

Gabriel Ruelas C.M.B

Antonio ' monito 'Hernandez A.M.B

Jesus ' matador 'Chavez C.M.B

Erik ' El terrible " MoralesC.M.B

Marco Antonio Barrerra



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PESO PLUMA (57.200 Kgs) /126 libras

Vicente 'zurdo de oro' Saldivar C.M.B, A.M.B

Clemente Sánchez C.M.B

Rubén "Púas" Olivares C.M.B, A.M.B

Salvador Sánchez C.M.B

Jorge "Maromero" Páez F.I.B, O.M.B

Marcos Villasana C.M.B

Manuel ' Mantecas ' Medina C.M.B,F.I.B,O.M.B

Gregorio 'Goyo ' Vargas C.M.B

Alejandro "Cobrita" González C.M.B

Ultiminio'sugar ' Ramos C.M.B,A.M.B

Gustavo "Guty" Espadas Jr. C.M.B

Erik'terrible ' Morales C.M.B

Juan Manuel Márquez F.I.B, A.M.B

Alberto 'baby ' Arizmendi **

Hector ' papi ' Lizarraga F.I.B

Cesar ' cobrita ' Soto C.M.B

Marco Antonio Barrera



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PESO SUPERGALLO (55.300 Kgs) /122 libras

Juan "Kid" Meza C.M.B

Guadalupe "Grillo" Pintor C.M.B

Daniel Zaragoza C.M.B

Juan José "Dinamita" Estrada

Raúl "Jibaro" Pérez A.M.B

Marco Antonio Barrera O.M.B

Erik "Terrible" Morales C.M.B

Enrique Sánchez A.M.B

Néstor "Tigre" Garza A.M.B

Óscar " Chololo "Larios C.M.B

Israel ' Magnifico " Vasquez F.I.B



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PESO GALLO (53.500 Kgs) /118 libras

Raúl "Ratón" Macias N.B.A

José Becerra N.B.A

Rubén "Púas" Olivares C.M.B, A.M.B

Jesús Castillo C.M.B, A.M.B

Rafael Herrera C.M.B, A.M.B

Romero "Lacandón" Anaya

Rodolfo Martínez C.M.B

Víctor Rabanales C.M.B

Alfonso Zamora A.M.B

Carlos "Cañas" Zárate C.M.B

Guadalupe "Grillo" Pintor C.M.B

Raúl "Jibaro" Pérez

Daniel Zaragoza C.M.B

Cruz Carbajal O.M.B

Rafael Márquez F.I.B

Julio " la sombra " Zarate A.M.B



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PESO SUPERMOSCA(52.200 Kgs) /115 libras

Gilberto Román C.M.B

Julio César "Navajo" Borboa F.I.B

José Luis Bueno C.M.B

José "Gallito" Quirino O.M.B

Diego "Pelucho" Morales O.M.B

Fernando Montiel O.M.B

Martin " el gallito " Castillo A.M.B

Ivan " el choko " Hernandez



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PESO MOSCA (50.800 Kgs) /112 libras

Efrén "Alacrán" Torres C.M.B

Miguel Canto C.M.B

Gustavo "Guty" Espadas

Antonio Avelar

Juan Herrera A.M.B

Gabriel Bernal C.M.B

Isidro Pérez O.M.B

Rubén Sánchez León O.M.B

Freddy Castillo

Alberto Jiménez O.M.B

Isidro García O.M.B

Fernando Montiel O.M.B



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PESO MINIMOSCA (49.00 Kgs) /108 libras

Freddy Castillo

Pedro Flores

Amado Urzua

Guadalupe Madera A.M.B

Germán Torres

Humberto "Chiquita" González C.M.B, F.I.B

Melchor Cob Castro C.M.B, O.M.B

Jesús Chong O.M.B

Jorge "Travieso" Arce C.M.B, O.M.B

Victor " acorazao " Burgos F.I.B

Ricardo "Finito" López F.I.B



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PESO PAJA (47.600 Kgs) /105 libras

Edgar " Tun Tun " Cardenas F.I.B

Ricardo "Finito" López C.M.B, A.M.B, O.M.B

José Antonio " el jaguar " Aguirre C.M.B

Roberto " Mako " Leyva F.I.B

Isaac " tortas " Bustos


now some one list the puerto rican ones please.

I was looking for something like that. where did u find it paisa?

IMO through the years I will say Mexico, any where from low weight classes and up, but PR has John Ruiz,1st latino HW Champ and have had fighters like Trinidad,Cotto,Camacho,Gomez and so has Mexico like Ricardo Lopez, Julio Cesar Chavez, Salvador Sanchez,Morales, Barrera.

My Vote goes to Mexico in a close match-up

I was looking for something like that. where did u find it paisa?

no idea pop's sent it to me
in an e-mail a while ago.

no idea pop's sent it to me
in an e-mail a while ago.
I didnt see Genaro Hernandez was he ever champ?

I didnt see Genaro Hernandez was he ever champ?

to tell you the truth its i dont know
my dad is the one who does all that, ill ask him tho.

Mexico has had more champions, obviously, mainly due to the demographic factor. I mean, we do have 10 times their population (or more, I don't know)

But as far as what country has had the best fighters, I think it's a tossup. It's true that in the biggest fight featuring a Puerto Rican and a Mexican, Salvador Sanchez demolished Wilfredo Gomez. But it's also true that Wilfredo had previously beaten the great Carlos Zarate, and then went on to beat another Mexican great, Lupe Pintor.

We have had more champions, no question about it. But in terms of quality, like for example, our 10 best vs. their 10 best, it's a tossup.

Welcome to the Information Age.

if you would study some more, you would read that Castillo has never been knocked down, or out legitimately.

You, as well as a host of others, have predicted a "Diego Knockout"

you do a decent job making yourself look like the jackoff you are:

when you say "Trinidad Won Every Round of the Oscar fight" etc.

you may be right about me being a "Hater:,

but I am not a biased dickface who thinks Puerto Rico is taking over the world.


LOL!!!! That's what I've said all along. IwatchBoxing is by far the most biased little ***** on this whole forum.. Be weary of those that are quick to call everyone else a racist... they are usually the biggest racists.. IWatchBoxing is guilty of this... He holds an unwavering bias towards Puerto Rican fighters , giving them unjust do.. In doing so he makes the accomplishments of other non PR fighters irrelevant to a certain extent.. These fighters are of all ethnicities, so who's the real racist IWatchBoxing you little Tito ass munching Nut Hugger.. The fact of the matter is Puerto Rican fighters don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Mexican fighters.. I'll never forget the day BHOP threw the PR flag on the ground BBWWAAHHH!! Then to add insult to injury Tito gets wiped out in front of a screaming MSG packed with PR's who were cursing BHop and his mother...VIVA MEXICO

Mexico and Puerto Rico are the elite of latin fighters no doubt...Does anyone know how many hall of famers does Mexico and Puerto Rico have..

LOL!!!! That's what I've said all along. IwatchBoxing is by far the most biased little ***** on this whole forum.. Be weary of those that are quick to call everyone else a racist... they are usually the biggest racists.. IWatchBoxing is guilty of this... He holds an unwavering bias towards Puerto Rican fighters , giving them unjust do.. In doing so he makes the accomplishments of other non PR fighters irrelevant to a certain extent.. These fighters are of all ethnicities, so who's the real racist IWatchBoxing you little Tito ass munching Nut Hugger.. The fact of the matter is Puerto Rican fighters don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Mexican fighters.. I'll never forget the day BHOP threw the PR flag on the ground BBWWAAHHH!! Then to add insult to injury Tito gets wiped out in front of a screaming MSG packed with PR's who were cursing BHop and his mother...VIVA MEXICO
That **** was funny. B-hop had to run out in a hurry. If that would of been the Mexican flag he would of been taken out by the La M. Another thing that we all need to see is that Mexico has a huge soccer league Puerto Rico has a baseball league but I think Mexico can match it.Iwatchboxing is nothing wrong backing his country men Im very guilty of the same.

calm down guys :)

The answer is Mexico and its really not close, its really not.

Genaro Hernadez was a fringe p4p fighter in the late 90's. He was destroyed and quit against DLH and was embarressed against Floyd Mayweather.

LOL!!!! That's what I've said all along. IwatchBoxing is by far the most biased little ***** on this whole forum.. Be weary of those that are quick to call everyone else a racist... they are usually the biggest racists.. IWatchBoxing is guilty of this... He holds an unwavering bias towards Puerto Rican fighters , giving them unjust do.. In doing so he makes the accomplishments of other non PR fighters irrelevant to a certain extent.. These fighters are of all ethnicities, so who's the real racist IWatchBoxing you little Tito ass munching Nut Hugger.. The fact of the matter is Puerto Rican fighters don't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Mexican fighters.. I'll never forget the day BHOP threw the PR flag on the ground BBWWAAHHH!! Then to add insult to injury Tito gets wiped out in front of a screaming MSG packed with PR's who were cursing BHop and his mother...VIVA MEXICO

Soko for starters you wouldn't dare say what you just said to a PR in his face. Stop hiding behind that computer monitor. And you guys maybe right. Mexicans do have more fighters than PR's and the soul basis for that is because that is probably the only Mexicans can make it thru their life times in Mexico and that's also the only way Mexicans can get out of the country with out having to cross the river or the dessert border. I for one never wanted to result to this turning into a feud but, too many of you are coming on here trying to be slick at the mouth and diss PR's. If you have a problem with "IWATCHBOXING" take it out on him and not the other PR's that come on this site just to talk about boxing. "Rogue" you're an ass for starting this thread, You should've known where this whole thing was going to end up at.

I think the higher the weight is the better the Puerto Ricans are than the Mexicans. I say this because I think Puerto Ricans are naturaly bigger than Mexicans. But in the lower weight classes the Mexicans are great.

what higher weight Puerto Ricans? John Ruiz?

what higher weight Puerto Ricans? John Ruiz?



hahahahahahha

this question may seem a little off topic so... Does the population of Mexico City exceed the entire population of Puerto Rico? I believe Mexico City is the Biggest city in the world(population wise). Does anyone have an idea?

this question may seem a little off topic so... Does the population of Mexico City exceed the entire population of Puerto Rico? I believe Mexico City is the Biggest city in the world(population wise). Does anyone have an idea?
Mexico City alone = 8.6 mill.
Puelto Lico= 3.8 mill.

Puerto Ricans have the better list, cause its hard at heavier weights, our best fighters have fought the best in boxing, from Lenard, to Hearns, to Duran, Oscar, Vargas, Hopkins ect ect, we even have an all time great in a weight divsion.

Mexico obviously has the better list and if you dont see it you just dont want to see it.

Puerto Ricans have the better list, cause its hard at heavier weights, our best fighters have fought the best in boxing, from Lenard, to Hearns, to Duran, Oscar, Vargas, Hopkins ect ect, we even have an all time great in a weight divsion.
Is that so........??? Ok your right never heard of an all time great being from Mexico. :rolleyes:

Puerto Ricans have the better list, cause its hard at heavier weights, our best fighters have fought the best in boxing, from Lenard, to Hearns, to Duran, Oscar, Vargas, Hopkins ect ect, we even have an all time great in a weight divsion.


No you dont dumbass.

Like I said before who are all these heavier Puerto Ricans you are talking about?

I'm neither PR or Mexican and I say that Mexico has the better list based on the sheer number of quality fighters Mexico produces.

PR's got some talent but man oh man Mexicans aren't bread to fight, they were born to fight.

Felix "Tito" Trinidad (42-1, 35 KO's)
Wilfredo "El Radar" Benitez (53-8-1, 31 KO's)
Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (44-3-1, 42 KO's)
Carlos Ortiz (60-7-1, 29 KO's)
Edwin "El Chappo" Rosario (47 -6, 41 KO's)
Sammy "El Torbellino" Serrano (52-4-1, 17 KO's)
Jose "Chegui" Torres (41-3-1, 29 KO's)
Estaban De Jesus (57-5, 32 KO's)
John John Molina (52-7, 33 KO's)
Wilfredo "Pride of Puerto Rico" Vazquez (56-9-2, 41 KO's)

Those are ten, where is the Mexican list?

These Mexicos top ten(Up)?
Oscar De La Hoya
Julio Cesar Chavez
Ruben Olivares
Salvador Sanchez
Erik Morales
Lupe Pintor
Carlos Zarate
Daniel Zaragoza
Miguel Canto
Marco Antonio Barrera

Top ten PR's(down)?

Felix "Tito" Trinidad (42-1, 35 KO's)
Wilfredo "El Radar" Benitez (53-8-1, 31 KO's)
Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (44-3-1, 42 KO's)
Carlos Ortiz (60-7-1, 29 KO's)
Edwin "El Chappo" Rosario (47 -6, 41 KO's)
Sammy "El Torbellino" Serrano (52-4-1, 17 KO's)
Jose "Chegui" Torres (41-3-1, 29 KO's)
Estaban De Jesus (57-5, 32 KO's)
John John Molina (52-7, 33 KO's)
Wilfredo "Pride of Puerto Rico" Vazquez (56-9-2, 41 KO's)

Compare them, and see who has the better fighters ;)

These Mexicos top ten(Up)?
Oscar De La Hoya
Julio Cesar Chavez
Ruben Olivares
Salvador Sanchez
Erik Morales
Lupe Pintor
Carlos Zarate
Daniel Zaragoza
Miguel Canto
Marco Antonio Barrera

Top ten PR's(down)?

Felix "Tito" Trinidad (42-1, 35 KO's)
Wilfredo "El Radar" Benitez (53-8-1, 31 KO's)
Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (44-3-1, 42 KO's)
Carlos Ortiz (60-7-1, 29 KO's)
Edwin "El Chappo" Rosario (47 -6, 41 KO's)
Sammy "El Torbellino" Serrano (52-4-1, 17 KO's)
Jose "Chegui" Torres (41-3-1, 29 KO's)
Estaban De Jesus (57-5, 32 KO's)
John John Molina (52-7, 33 KO's)
Wilfredo "Pride of Puerto Rico" Vazquez (56-9-2, 41 KO's)

Compare them, and see who has the better fighters ;)


HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
You put DLH over Chavez???
you are nuts
just plain old nuts

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
You put DLH over Chavez???
you are nuts
just plain old nutsNo man, there is no order, its just the top ten, and its Mexico vs. PR on Telemundo right now, just compare them dude :D

These Mexicos top ten(Up)?
Oscar De La Hoya
Julio Cesar Chavez
Ruben Olivares
Salvador Sanchez
Erik Morales
Lupe Pintor
Carlos Zarate
Daniel Zaragoza
Miguel Canto
Marco Antonio Barrera

Top ten PR's(down)?

Felix "Tito" Trinidad (42-1, 35 KO's)
Wilfredo "El Radar" Benitez (53-8-1, 31 KO's)
Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (44-3-1, 42 KO's)
Carlos Ortiz (60-7-1, 29 KO's)
Edwin "El Chappo" Rosario (47 -6, 41 KO's)
Sammy "El Torbellino" Serrano (52-4-1, 17 KO's)
Jose "Chegui" Torres (41-3-1, 29 KO's)
Estaban De Jesus (57-5, 32 KO's)
John John Molina (52-7, 33 KO's)
Wilfredo "Pride of Puerto Rico" Vazquez (56-9-2, 41 KO's)

Compare them, and see who has the better fighters ;)

Listen I know you new to boxing, but this is laughable. No one who klnows anything about this sport will tell you Puerto Ricans have produced better fighters.

are you high?

By the way you forgot Ricardo Lopez arguably the greatest little guy of all time on your Mexican list.

and I hate to break it to you, but guys like John John Molina, Wilfredo Vasquez, Edwin Rosario and Jose Torres were slighty above average. None were dominate champions. When Ring made a list of the 20 greatest Light Heavyweight of all time Jose Torres didn't even make the honorable mention part. You know what Jose Torres is famous for? hanging around Tyson thats what. Rosario could punch and that it Chavez blistered his ass. John John Molina was tough, but DLH handled him.

Yes DeJesus beat Duran one time, but that was more because of Duran hanging out and living it up rather than training, Duran gave him brutal beatings in the next two fights.

No matter how you try and spin it Felix Trinidad wasn't even competative against the two best fighters he fought.


Im not trying to put you or your people down, but please do a little bit of homework about the sport or at least put down the Kool-Aid before you come around with this stuff.

mexico all the way baby

Trinidad beat Oscar, cry all you want
Chavez got beat by Taylor, had alot of unimportant fight for his record
Salvador Sanchez is great cause he beat a PR, he couldnt get his rematch so who knows what would of happened
Benitez beat Duran too, lasted 15 rounds with Hearns, got KO'd by Lenorad in the 15 RD, nothing to be ashamed of here.
Go ahead Jose, compare records, I will, after this PR/Mexico fight on TV.
Marco Antonio Barrera beat Morales three times, and lost badly to Pacman like Trinidad did to Hopkins, who is considered one of the best middleweights ever now.

Trinidad beat Oscar, cry all you want
Chavez got beat by Taylor, had alot of unimportant fight for his record
Salvador Sanchez is great cause he beat a PR, he couldnt get his rematch so who knows what would of happened
Benitez beat Duran too, lasted 15 rounds with Hearns, got KO'd by Lenorad in the 15 RD, nothing to be ashamed of here.
Go ahead Jose, compare records, I will, after this PR/Mexico fight on TV.
Marco Antonio Barrera beat Morales three times, and lost badly to Pacman like Trinidad did to Hopkins, who is considered one of the best middleweights ever now.


Chavez was never beaten by Taylor, it aint over till the last bell rings..........Rockin'

Trinidad beat Oscar, cry all you want
Chavez got beat by Taylor, had alot of unimportant fight for his record
Salvador Sanchez is great cause he beat a PR, he couldnt get his rematch so who knows what would of happened
Benitez beat Duran too, lasted 15 rounds with Hearns, got KO'd by Lenorad in the 15 RD, nothing to be ashamed of here.
Go ahead Jose, compare records, I will, after this PR/Mexico fight on TV.
Marco Antonio Barrera beat Morales three times, and lost badly to Pacman like Trinidad did to Hopkins, who is considered one of the best middleweights ever now.

Dude you said it yourself and even if you hadnt its painfully obvious that you are new to boxing. Dont argue what you truely dont know.

Dude you said it yourself and even if you hadnt its painfully obvious that you are new to boxing. Dont argue what you truely dont know.
So school me on the subject, if you know it all, I only talking cause nobodies shuting me up :cool:

Trinidad beat Oscar, cry all you want
Chavez got beat by Taylor, had alot of unimportant fight for his record
Salvador Sanchez is great cause he beat a PR, he couldnt get his rematch so who knows what would of happened
Benitez beat Duran too, lasted 15 rounds with Hearns, got KO'd by Lenorad in the 15 RD, nothing to be ashamed of here.
Go ahead Jose, compare records, I will, after this PR/Mexico fight on TV.
Marco Antonio Barrera beat Morales three times, and lost badly to Pacman like Trinidad did to Hopkins, who is considered one of the best middleweights ever now.

Listen jr I'll eat you alive in this debate.

Yeah Tito beat DLH like Holyfield drew with Lewis.

Chavez WON the Taylor fight and one of those "unimportant" fights was beating the living hell out of dwin Rosario one of your beloved PR greats. Im seeding it right now in the Torrents section if you want to check it out.

Sal Sanchez was great because he beat a lot of great fighters like Danny Lopez2x, Juan LaPorte and Azumah Nelson to go along with his wicked ass kicking of Wilfredo Gomez another one of your all time greats. Gomez never got his rematch? There was no nead whatsoever for a rematch it was an ass kicking.

Please save me the Gomez beat Zarate and Pintor because Sanchez beat LaPorte and GOMEZ

Benitez beat Duran when Duran was already an old man you fool. Benitez LOST to Tommy Hearns and he LOST to Leonard. Thats what its come to for you? your hanging you hat of fights your guys LOST.

Yes MAB beat Morales, but last time I checked that was a Mexican vs a Mexican and we aint talking about Mexico vs Mexico are we?

and yes MAB lost to Pac-Man, but he didn't run back to Mexico and leave the entire sport with his tail tucked between his legs did he?

you realize this kid just started this thread
to get us all heated up, and to get some points right???

Alright I watch boxing.... Ultimate..... you both know the rules here. You know the rules.... I expect a good clean fight, no hitting below the belt. In case of a knockdown, you will go to a neutral corner. The people have come here to watch and get involved in a good, clean, hard fought debate, so lets show 'em one. Touch gloves and come out at the bell.......Rockin' :boxing:

DDDIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!

Gomez is considered the best fighter ever in his natural weight class in which he doimnated, than moved up to face Sal Sanchez.

Duran wasnt old, you fool, Benitz was his 3rd loss after Lenoard, first lost was to a PR
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000080

So if Pacman beat Barrera so brutely, what you think he gonna do to Morales, thats two of your top fighters.

And the PR wins by KO of the Mexican :D

1 me - 0 Jose

Gomez is considered the best fighter ever in his natural weight class in which he doimnated, than moved up to face Sal Sanchez.

Duran wasnt old, you fool, Benitz was his 3rd loss after Lenoard, first lost was to a PR
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000080

So if Pacman beat Barrera so brutely, what you think he gonna do to Morales, thats two of your top fighters.

And the PR wins by KO of the Mexican :D

1 me - 0 Jose

Moved up to face Sal Sanchez and then....what happend?

Again if you knew anytthing you would know Duran was at hist years earlier when he was a LIGHTWEIGHT.

Is Pac PR? cause last I checked the answer to that question would be NO

Moved up to face Sal Sanchez and then....what happend?

Again if you knew anytthing you would know Duran was at hist years earlier when he was a LIGHTWEIGHT.

Is Pac PR? cause last I checked the answer to that question would be NO
So you make a big deal about Hopkins beating Trinidad, but it happened to one of yours too just recently(soon to be two), and last time I checked hes not on hopkins level cause Pac was KO'd twice before.
Sal Sanchez beat him, KO'd him 8th RD, they had a rematch ready but you know, so who really knows, if Duran could come back from a loss, so can Gomez.

Well my intention was never to create a flame thread, rather i was looking for comprehensive analysis on fighters from both countries. While i'm of Mexican Descent, i have many Puerto Rican friends, and i respect their fighters. I Don't like Tito, but i always enjoyed watching "chapo" cuz he was a bulldog. I don't like Barrera cuz he talks down to Mexicans who aren't from the D.F. (he called Morales a sixth grade drop out). For being a small litle island PR has a great ratio, but IMO Mexico eeks it out.

So you make a big deal about Hopkins beating Trinidad, but it happened to one of yours too just recently(soon to be two), and last time I checked hes not on hopkins level cause Pac was KO'd twice before.
Sal Sanchez beat him, KO'd him 8th RD, they had a rematch ready but you know, so who really knows, if Duran could come back from a loss, so can Gomez.


WTF

I dont have to make a big deal of Hopkins beating Tito I cant talk about how DLH clowned him. I talk about Tito reaction to that loss certianly not the reaction of a warrior.

Yes we do know how a Sanchez/Gomez fight would have turned out it would have turned out just like the first one.

WTF

I dont have to make a big deal of Hopkins beating Tito I cant talk about how DLH clowned him. I talk about Tito reaction to that loss certianly not the reaction of a warrior.

Yes we do know how a Sanchez/Gomez fight would have turned out it would have turned out just like the first one.
Well, thats to remain to be seen, how it stands, Gomezs record is more impressive than Sanchez, one loss to a guy doesnt automactly make you a loser or nothing their both great, I just saying record wise he was better, it would never be known what would of happened in a rematch.

I understand he retired after trying to get a rematch, but he never quit inside the ring, and thats where it counts, he gave boxing fans many years of exciting fights, if he was hurt inside he deserved to deal with it.

Well, thats to remain to be seen, how it stands, Gomezs record is more impressive than Sanchez, one loss to a guy doesnt automactly make you a loser or nothing their both great, I just saying record wise he was better, it would never be known what would of happened in a rematch.

I understand he retired after trying to get a rematch, but he never quit inside the ring, and thats where it counts, he gave boxing fans many years of exciting fights, if he was hurt inside he deserved to deal with it.


Im sorry did you just say Gomez had a more impressive record than Salvador Sanchez? You dont need a rematch to tell you who was better. The first fight was a dominate performance by Sanchez

He retired because he knew he had no shot at Hopkins save me that whole Hopkins didn't want a rematch BS. Hopkins did'nt even break a sweat the first time.

Im sorry did you just say Gomez had a more impressive record than Salvador Sanchez? You dont need a rematch to tell you who was better. The first fight was a dominate performance by Sanchez

He retired because he knew he had no shot at Hopkins save me that whole Hopkins didn't want a rematch BS. Hopkins did'nt even break a sweat the first time.
Nither did Pacman, and hes gonna do the same to Morales, two of your best out by a guy who was KO'd two times before, and Oscar ran from Trinidad in their fight, be very proud, and lost to Sturm, like Chavez had the ref stop the fight at 5 sec's till the end so he could win.

Wilfredo Gomez was and is considered unbeateable at 122 when he moved up in weight he was not a dominant force, nonetheless, his accomplishments made him one of the greatest in history. I still think that PR has the edge historically VS Mex in championship fights. I am working if the research but if anyone has the numbers come forward.

Wow...this thread has given a lot of great boxing history. Regardless of what you think, its undeniable that these two countries lead the way over other non-US countries with thier contribution to boxing. I'm curious to see what the actual results in championship fights between these two countries was. It might not be the determining factor, but it would provide another measuring stick.

By the way Hopkins did throw the PR flag to the ground and almost got killed in PR. If that had taken place with the Mex flag the reaction would have been the same. I think you can be a great fighter and create controversy without being disrespectful to other people. By the way you would never see a PR fighter being that disrespectful, as a matter of fact that is one of the reasons people in PR are not proud of a guy like el Macho Camacho, because of his arrogance and that is one of the reasons we idolize fighters like Cotto and Tito because they are humble.

Both countries should be proud of the amount of quality fighters that they have produce... :boxing:

Now stop fighting and help me seed a video that I just uploaded with all of Trinidad's Ko's... :D

Both countries should be proud of the amount of quality fighters that they have produce... :boxing:

Now stop fighting and help me seed a video that I just uploaded with all of Trinidad's Ko's... :D

does it have music?

does it have music?

Of course, it's copied from a DVD...

Hopkins owned Trinidad... :dance:

Hey, that would be awesome to see all of Tito's knock outs! Can some one do DLH's? LOL... especially when he knocks down VARGAS! :)

BTW, i don't want to start a thread on this, but can someone tell me how you can download these videos? What are torrents and seeding? What are the quality of these videos and stuff. Sorry just a little Technology challenged. THANKS IN ADVANCE!

They say W Gomez had a rematch with Sal...??? :D And it didn't happen cause Sal died!! If I'm not mistaken Sal fought 3 more times after taking apart Gomez. How come he did not get an Immediate rematch??? I think is cause there was NO need for one!! Sal Kill he's @ss in the first one aand it would of been worst in a second bout!!

By the way.... Azumah Nelson beat Wilfredo's @ss too!! Nelson is still around, How come Gomez didn't try to avenge that loss???

Is easy to say that Gomez would have beaten Sal in a rematch...
:boxing:

Saludos...!

They say W Gomez had a rematch with Sal...??? :D And it didn't happen cause Sal died!! If I'm not mistaken Sal fought 3 more times after taking apart Gomez. How come he did not get an Immediate rematch??? I think is cause there was NO need for one!! Sal Kill he's @ss in the first one aand it would of been worst in a second bout!!

By the way.... Azumah Nelson beat Wilfredo's @ss too!! Nelson is still around, How come Gomez didn't try to avenge that loss???

Is easy to say that Gomez would have beaten Sal in a rematch...
:boxing:

Saludos...!
You didnt really have to explain it.I think it was obvious enough for people to understand that when u get get your ass handed to u to the point u have drop back down 4 pounds in order to dominate the weight class where as long as Sanchez was around u would not be considered great.

(from nicaragua):
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I have seen many fighter from PR that have been great...but usually and lately...what come from PR seems to be this breed of strong/hard hitting fighters....so they have power but lack heart or stamina sometimes and technique most often.So PR may deveope strong fighter but there not even close to the typs of fighters (with skills) the Mexico has produced,even now..with castillo...the tradition continues and will. So in general i think PR coomes ouyt with stronger (sometimes more exciting fighters) but the true skills of boxing,those you see in mexican fighters...what can i say,they have heart. But nothing can change the greats that PR has had in the past (the PR legends) the problem?PR has not had gret fighter like that in a while.Cintron,tito and cotto all lack something that past PR legends have had.

(from nicaragua):
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I have seen many fighter from PR that have been great...but usually and lately...what come from PR seems to be this breed of strong/hard hitting fighters....so they have power but lack heart or stamina sometimes and technique most often.So PR may deveope strong fighter but there not even close to the typs of fighters (with skills) the Mexico has produced,even now..with castillo...the tradition continues and will. So in general i think PR coomes ouyt with stronger (sometimes more exciting fighters) but the true skills of boxing,those you see in mexican fighters...what can i say,they have heart. But nothing can change the greats that PR has had in the past (the PR legends) the problem?PR has not had gret fighter like that in a while.Cintron,tito and cotto all lack something that past PR legends have had.Well lets blame Tyson for hitting so hard, Cotto and Cintron arent legends, their just PR fighters, Trinidad has heart, he never quit in the ring, never pads his record, and has gotten up from every knockdown he has, his father stopped the Hopkins fight, look at the ring legends, behind alot of them is a PR fighter.

it doesn't matter where ur from. it dont matter if ur from the north pole wat matters is the fighters themselves. now the name of this thread should have been which country has produced better fighters. not if ur from mexico or PR determines how good of a fighter u are

Some important notes, just like to add my 2 cents here, pasted from wikipedia and other sources

Important chapters of Puerto Ricans vs. Mexicans in boxing

* Benitez-Palomino
o Benitez wins the world Welterweight title with a 15 round decision.
* Camacho-Limon
o Camacho conquers the world Jr. Lightweight title with a 5 round knockout
* Camacho-Ramirez
o Camacho conquers the world Lightweight title with a 12 round decision.
* Chávez-Camacho
o Chávez retains his world Jr. Welterweight title with a 12 round decision.
* Chávez-Rosario
o Chávez wins the world Lightweight title with an 11 round knockout
* Cuevas-Espada
o Cuevas beats Espada for the world Welterweight title, then successfully defends it three times against the same rival
* de la Hoya-Camacho
o de la Hoya beats Camacho by 12 round decision to retain the world welterweight title
* Escobar-Casanova
o Escobar becomes the first Puerto Rican world champion, winning the world Bantamweight title over Casanova by knockout in nine, in the first world title fight between a Puerto Rican and a Mexican
* Escobar-Quintana
o Escobar retains world Bantamweight title by knockout in round one.
* Gómez-Pintor
o Gómez retains the world Jr. Featherweight title with a 14 round knockout in what was described by Ring Magazine as the fight of the 80s at the Jr. Featherweight division
* Gómez-Zarate
o Gómez retains his world Jr. Featherweight title by knockout in round five
* Ramirez-Rosario
o In their first fight, Rosario conquers the vacant world Lightweight title with a 12 round decision. In their rematch, Ramirez wins the world title with a four round knockout
* Sanchez-Gómez
o Sanchez inflicts what many consider the greatest defeat in Puerto Rican boxing history, knocking Gómez out in eight rounds to retain the world Featherweight title
* Trinidad-de la Hoya
o Trinidad defeats de la Hoya by a 12 round decision to unify the world Welterweight title, in what many Puerto Ricans see as revenge for Gómez's loss at the hands of Sanchez
* Trinidad-Vargas
o Trinidad recovers from a knockdown and drops Vargas five times, unifying the world's Jr Middleweight title with a 12 round knockout

Let me add that at one time Puerto Rico had 5 champions in 5 different weight categories:

List of Boxing world champions from Puerto Rico

This list is from wikipedia:

* 1 Sixto Escobar(PR) 1934-06-06 Belts: 118

* 2 Carlos Ortiz(PR) 1959-06-12 Belts: 140 & 135

* 3 Jose Chegui Torres(PR) 1965-03-30 Belts: 175

* 4 Angel Espada(PR) 1975-06-28 Belts: 147

* 5 Alfredo Escalera(PR) 1975-07-05 Belts: 130

* 6 Samuel Serrano(PR) 1976-10-16 Belts: 130

* 7 Wilfredo Bénitez(PR) 1976-03-06 Belts: 140, 147 & 154

* 8 Esteban De Jesús(PR) 1976-05-08 Belts: 135

* 9 Wilfredo Gómez(PR) 1977-05-21 Belts: 122, 126 & 130

* 10 Julian Solís(PR) 1980-08-29 Belts: 118

* 11 Carlos De León(PR) 1980-11-25 Belts: 190

* 12 Ossie Ocasio(PR) 1982-02-13 Belts: 190

* 13 Juan LaPorte(PR) 1982-09-15 Belts: 126

* 14 Edwin Rosario(PR) 1983-05-01 Belts: 135 & 140

* 15 Héctor Camacho(PR) 1983-08-07 Belts: 130, 135 & 140

* 16 Mark Medal(PR) 1984-03-11 Belts: 154

* 17 Harry Arroyo(PR) 1984-04-15 Belts: 135

* 18 Víctor Callejas(PR) 1984-05-26 Belts: 122

* 19 Carlos Santos(PR) 1984-11-02 Belts: 154

* 20 Antonio Rivera(PR) 1986-08-30 Belts: 126

* 21 Wilfredo Vázquez(PR) 1987-10-04 Belts: 118, 122 & 126

* 22 José Cheíto Ruíz(PR) 1989-04-29 Belts: 115

* 23 John-John Molina(PR) 1989-04-29 Belts: 130

* 24 José De Jesús(PR) 1989-05-19 Belts: 108

* 25 Juan Nazario(PR) 1990-04-04 Belts: 135

* 26 Orlando Fernandez(PR) 1990-05-12 Belts: 122

* 27 Santos Cardona(PR) 1991-04-11 Belts: 147 & 154

* 28 Danny Garcia(PR) 1992-02-01 Belts: 160

* 29 Rafael Del Valle(PR) 1992-05-13 Belts: 118

* 30 Felix Camacho(PR) 1992-05-27 Belts: 122

* 31 Josue Camacho(PR) 1992-07-31 Belts: 108

* 32 Felix Trinidad(PR) 1993-06-19 Belts: 147, 154 & 160

* 33 Alex Sanchez(PR) 1993-12-22 Belts: 105

* 34 Jake Rodríguez(PR) 1994-02-13 Belts: 140

* 35 Daniel Jiménez(PR) 1993-06-09 Belts: 122 & 118

* 36 Sammy Fuentes(PR) 1994-11-07 Belts: 140

* 37 Angel Almena(PR) 1995-07-29 Belts: 115 & 112

* 38 Angel Manfredy(PR) 1995-11-18 Belts: 130

* 39 Frank Toledo(PR) 1996-06-09 Belts: 122 & 126

* 40 José A. Rivera(PR) 1997-04-25 Belts: 147

* 41 Lou del Valle(PR) 1997-09-20 Belts: 175

* 42 Eric Morel(PR) 1998-10-17 Belts: 115

* 43 Daniel Santos(PR) 2000-05-06 Belts: 147 & 154

* 44 Nelson Dieppa(PR) 2000-07-22 Belts: 108

* 45 John Ruiz(PR) 2001-03-03 Belts: Hvy

* 46 Aléx Trujillo(PR) 2001-05-05 Belts: 135 & 140

* 47 Ángel Chacón(PR) 2002-10-27 Belts: 126

* 48 Ivan Calderón(PR) 2003-05-03 Belts: 105 % 108

* 49 Alejandro Siaca(PR) 2004-05-05 Belts: 168

* 50 Miguel Cotto(PR) 2004-09-11 Belts: 140 & 147

* 51 Luis Collazo(PR) Belts: 147

* 52 Kermit Cintron(PR) Belts: 147

quick note before looking at mexican's boxers:

Puerto Rico is number 1 for boxers ratio wide. There are 215.3 white Americans. There are 40 million African Americans. There are 26.8 million Mexican Americans and 103 million Mexicans.

Puerto Rican is an island about 3.8 million people and in the United States there are under 4 million Puerto Ricans. Propotion wise, Puerto Rican stands superior in being a powerhouse of talent. Those three other groups are well respected and have credibility, but Puerto Rican stands number one if you want to look at talent production.

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World Champions who boxed out of Mexico

Articles in category "Mexican World Champions"

There are 106 articles in this category.
A

* Mauricio Aceves
* Jose Antonio Aguirre
* Romeo Anaya
* Lupe Aquino
* Jorge Arce
* Rene Arredondo
* Ricardo Arredondo
* Antonio Avelar

B

* Marco Antonio Barrera
* Cesar Bazan
* Jose Becerra
* Gabriel Bernal
* Julio Cesar Borboa
* Jose Luis Bueno
* Victor Burgos
* Isaac Bustos

C

* Yory Boy Campas
* Miguel Canto
* Edgar Cardenas
* Chango Carmona
* Cruz Carbajal
* Chucho Castillo
* Freddy Castillo
* José Luis Castillo
* Martin Castillo
* Hugo Cazares
* Jesús Chávez
* Julio Cesar Chavez
* Jesus Chong
* Melchor Cob Castro
* Pipino Cuevas

D

* Juan Diaz

E

* Guty Espadas
* Guty Espadas, Jr.
* Juan Jose Estrada


F

* Pedro Flores

G

* Alejandro Garcia
* Isidro Garcia
* Nestor Garza
* Humberto Gonzalez
* Alejandro Gonzalez
* Carlos Gonzalez
* Julio Gonzalez
* Miguel Angel Gonzalez
* Rodolfo Gonzalez
* Jhonny Gonzalez

H

* Ivan Hernandez
* Juan Herrera
* Rafael Herrera

J

* Javier Jauregui
* Alberto Jimenez

L

* Oscar Larios
* Genaro Leon
* Roberto Carlos Leyva
* Rafael Limon
* Human:8361
* Ricardo Lopez
* Rodolfo Lopez

M

* Raul (Raton) Macias
* Lupe Madera
* Antonio Margarito
* Juan Manuel Marquez
* Rafael Marquez
* Rodolfo Martinez
* Manuel Medina
* Juan Meza
* Cristian Mijares
* Fernando Montiel
* Erik Morales
* Diego Morales

O

* Ruben Olivares


O cont.

* Eric Ortiz

P

* Jorge Paez
* Raul Perez
* Isdro Perez
* Lupe Pintor
* Daniel Ponce de León

Q

* Jose Quirino

R

* Victor Rabanales
* Jose Luis Ramirez
* Gilberto Roman
* Omar Niño Romero

S

* Lauro Salas
* Vicente Saldivar
* Orlando Salido
* Ruben Sanchez Leon
* Clemente Sanchez
* Enrique Sanchez
* Salvador Sanchez
* Jose Armando Santa Cruz
* Battling Shaw
* Ulises Solis
* Edgar Sosa
* Cesar Soto

T

* Efren Torres
* German Torres

U

* Amado Ursua

V

* Jorge Vaca
* Gregorio Vargas
* Israel Vazquez
* Marcos Villasana

Z

* Alfonso Zamora
* Daniel Zaragoza
* Carlos Zarate
* Julio Zarate
* Juan Zurita


US- 275 Million
Mexico- 105 MIllion
PR- 7 Million (half on the island, half in the US)

total world champions
Mexico 106
Puerto Rico 52

you be the judge

Both countries have great fighters!:boxing:

at the beginning of this thread i saw alot of comments that piss me off but hey that nationality i only say that mexico and puerto rico are power house countries in boxing.

at the beginning of this thread i saw alot of comments that piss me off but hey that nationality i only say that mexico and puerto rico are power house countries in boxing.

I totally agree!

Mexican fighters toe to toe,theres nothing better in sports period.
P.R. has nothing to be ashamed of,in general they are a little dirtier and don't sustain the chin of stubborn aztec warriors.

im sorry man but to those idiots who were dizzing pr's maybe iwatchboxing dosen't have alot of knowledge but i could **** on them about this topic i have the real list of championship fights between mexicans and pr's but hey this is an old ass thread no need to start flame not only that there should not be any fight about this.

and what u mean ashamed of...maybe im not full boricua but trust me what pr has done in boxing is amazing especially having a total of 8 millions on the island and the states. PR have done more than enough to proved they are one of the best countries in boxing.

same as mexico and u.s

****ing great countries, however i do think mexico's best fighters were better than puerto rico's...but thats just my opinion....

****ing great countries, however i do think mexico's best fighters were better than puerto rico's...but thats just my opinion....

its just something that were just going to go back and forth jeje trust me man if u go to da spanish boxing forums is like more than 5,000 post on a thread like this.

mexico's best were on the lower weight classes puerto rico's best in all weight classes.

like i said back and forth discussion it would never end.

I'm Puerto Rican and I'll tell straight up I love both countries (had some great times in mexico). Boxing for us is a matter of pride for us as well as mexicans. They don't just represent themselves like Mayweather does (not bashing just stating a fact), they fight for their country, their legacy and finally for money. They fight knowing that the pride of their country is at stake and thats why Puerto Ricans and Mexicans have so many great champions. I could careless who has the most champions, what I do care about is that everytime one of ours or one of theirs steps in the ring, I'm gonna see a fight fought with heart, will and determination. Thats all I care about, if they guy isn't the most skilled boxer but can dominate because of his heart then I give him credit. i.e. Mayorga (I know he's not mexican) vs. Vernon Forest, Forest stylistically should have put Mayo in a coma but couldn't do it.

Both Mexico and Puerto Rico have produced great champions/fighters/hall of famers in the sport. Regardless of who has the edge in championships etc..they are both forces in boxing..and the best of PR vs the best of Mex could go either way..there is no clear cut winner here. Mexico has produced more and thats understandable becuase Mexico is larger and has a larger population than PR.

When ever this subject comes up, those favoring Mexico will bring up Sanchez, Chavez, Cuevas and maybe one or two others, but that's it. They have no one else. In Mexican vs Puerto Rican fights, the Puerto Rican usually wins. Don't take my word, check the records.
Also, when the Mexican loses, they say it was an offnight, but when the Puerto Rican loses, it's an excuse. Tito fouled Vargas and that is why Vargas lost, right? Gomez hit Zarate on the floor and that is why he lost, right? Did the best Sanchez face the best Gomez? There was a tv report done on that fight, previous to the fight, in which Gomez was shown to be going through the motions, and when the reporter asked him why he was taking it so easy, and pointing out that Sanchez was training hard for Wilfredo Gomez, but Gomez appeared not to be training for Sanchez, he responded that Sanchez had never fought anyone of note, and that Little Red Lopez was a sitting duck before the fight started. Mr Wilfredo Gomez would be a different fight altogether. Was he ****y? Of course he was, anyone scoring 32 kos in a row would be ****y. Was he right to overlook Sal? No, no opponent should be overlooked. Was this fight, as one sided as many make it out to be? No, they need to sit down and watch it again. In that first round, and early into the second, Gomez took a beating and a half, but after that the fight became very competitive (check the scorecards), with Gomez the aggressor throughout. He lost badly, but one has to wonder how he would have done, had he trained properly, and as dedicated as Sanchez had. In a rematch it would have been the best Sanchez vs the best Gomez.
The Chavez-Camacho is another fight that could have it's questions. We all know the type of fighter Camacho was before he faced Rosario, was not the same one that faced Chavez. Before Rosario he was an in your face aggressive type, but after that fight he became a safety first, runner type. The very thing that should have built up his confidence (being staggerred and almost taken out, twice, rds 9 & 11) and surviving, without being dropped, robbed him of all confidence. He was never the same fighter again.
Mexicans like to say that Puerto Ricans talk too much, but they forget how their people and media use words freely, that in their culture are meaningless, but in the Puerto Ricans insulting. I know, I use to buy their "Ring Mundial" and other boxing books and newspapers, and I use to be shocked at how easily they used these terms against Gomez for almost 2 years, until the fight with Zarate was held. I recently saw a documentery on Sanchez and in it, Gomez was put down, as though he were a member of the bum of the month club. This was much after the fact, years after Sal's death, yet they still refer to Gomez in bad terms. They overlook the fact that Gomez has been one of the few fighters, who goes to Mexico practically, if not, every year, to memoralize Sanchez.
One thing is for sure, whenever you have a Puerto Rican facing a Mexican, there will be more than their records or titles at stake.