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joeboxer
03-10-2005, 11:15 PM
How far does Floyd have to go to prove he is the greatest Fighter in the world?

I think that a win over Gatti and a win over a famous welterweight like Shane Mosely would do it.

RwK
03-10-2005, 11:18 PM
How far does Floyd have to go to prove he is the greatest Fighter in the world?

I think that a win over Gatti and a win over a famous welterweight like Shane Mosely would do it.

he has to beat the winner of KT/Hatton, and Arturo Gatti to be the p4p #1 fighter on earth IMO.

Dr.Depravity
03-10-2005, 11:23 PM
Beating Gatti in overwelming fashion would do the trick. Beating K.T. would be the icing on the cake.

butatista
03-10-2005, 11:31 PM
to be The Man you gotta beat The Man, and i hardly think Gatti or Mosley qualify as that. i think hes got a shout for best P4P as it is, but i agree a win over the winner of KT/Hatton would cement it.

phallus
03-10-2005, 11:32 PM
i just hope he doesn't let his ego get the better of him after he beats the **** out of gatti and go up to 154 or (even middleweight) and try to bang with those guys. pbf is great but he just too damn small to go past 147. if any of the big punchers at 154 can land on him, they'll knock floyd into next week

butatista
03-10-2005, 11:36 PM
agreed mate. look at what happened to mosley. he aint so sweet no more.

RwK
03-10-2005, 11:39 PM
Beating Gatti in overwelming fashion would do the trick. Beating K.T. would be the icing on the cake.

So....beating Gatti would be the cake.

and Tszyu would be the icing?

Does that mean Gatti is a bigger test for PBF?

joeboxer
03-10-2005, 11:57 PM
i just hope he doesn't let his ego get the better of him after he beats the **** out of gatti and go up to 154 or (even middleweight) and try to bang with those guys. pbf is great but he just too damn small to go past 147. if any of the big punchers at 154 can land on him, they'll knock floyd into next week

He is not a smart man but he isn't dumb enough to go to 160. I think that he is going to have more trouble at 140 than he thinks he is. I think he is a very good fighter but I could honestly see him lose to Mayorga at 147, and that's not a compliment to Mayorga.

enadeus
03-10-2005, 11:57 PM
Mayweather is a nobody. Who has he beat and what has he achieved to be ranked the best fighter in the world.

Alpha Male
03-11-2005, 12:02 AM
Mayweather is a nobody. Who has he beat and what has he achieved to be ranked the best fighter in the world.

Dude!! Check his resume and you'll see.

Chadmack
03-11-2005, 12:03 AM
How far does Floyd have to go to prove he is the greatest Fighter in the world?

I think that a win over Gatti and a win over a famous welterweight like Shane Mosely would do it.

How about a win over Tszyu, i think that would indeed be definitive

joeboxer
03-11-2005, 12:08 AM
How about a win over Tszyu, i think that would indeed be definitive

Not only would that be a good win, tough fights are what is going to make Mayweather popular.

No one wants to buy a pay per view to watch Floyd destroy somebody, it is the same reason Roy Jones was not real popular or interesting untill he went to heavyweight. And it is the same reason Gatti is so popular even though he isn't that great.

The Fix
03-11-2005, 12:12 AM
pbf is already the best in the world he just needs that big name to finally get recognized.

Chadmack
03-11-2005, 12:15 AM
Not only would that be a good win, tough fights are what is going to make Mayweather popular.

No one wants to buy a pay per view to watch Floyd destroy somebody, it is the same reason Roy Jones was not real popular or interesting untill he went to heavyweight. And it is the same reason Gatti is so popular even though he isn't that great.

agree with what you said, but being considered as a P4P top fighter, you really dont have to be the 'huge sales' in the ppv, you must beat P4P fighters and 'dominate' them convincingly.

IMO, if gatti would defeat floyd(if the fight would materialize) then, gatti would be ranked at least #2 in the P4P rankings for defeating the #2 guy. But if PBF defeats Gatti, he needs one more definitive win over a P4P fighter to unseat BHop in the #1 spot.

It would all be easy if PBF defeats KT instead, that will catapult him to #1 instantly

enadeus
03-11-2005, 12:16 AM
His credentials are at 130 and 135 not at 140. He has not proven anything at 140 yet. he has fought two opponents at this weight.

davico
03-11-2005, 12:38 AM
agree with what you said, but being considered as a P4P top fighter, you really dont have to be the 'huge sales' in the ppv, you must beat P4P fighters and 'dominate' them convincingly.

IMO, if gatti would defeat floyd(if the fight would materialize) then, gatti would be ranked at least #2 in the P4P rankings for defeating the #2 guy. But if PBF defeats Gatti, he needs one more definitive win over a P4P fighter to unseat BHop in the #1 spot.

It would all be easy if PBF defeats KT instead, that will catapult him to #1 instantly

I dno't think that Gatti would jump straight up to #2. All it would show is PBF should not fight at 140. I thinks someone like Winky or Maorales/Pacqauio would move to 3 with KT moving to #2. (poviding he beats Hatton. I don't think Gatti can jump KT unless he beats him

joeboxer
03-11-2005, 12:46 AM
You can't be the #2 P4P in the world untill you are the number 1 guy in your weight division.

IwatchBoxing
03-11-2005, 12:52 AM
Mayweather has to wait in line, after Hopkins, Trinidad takes his place, no Roy Jones this time to hog the #1 spot..

joeboxer
03-11-2005, 12:54 AM
Mayweather has to wait in line, after Hopkins, Trinidad takes his place, again.

Assuming Trinidad beats Wright. Then beats Hopkins or Jermain Taylor of Felix Strum or whoever the middleweight champion is.

IwatchBoxing
03-11-2005, 12:58 AM
Assuming Trinidad beats Wright. Then beats Hopkins or Jermain Taylor of Felix Strum or whoever the middleweight champion is.I'm pretty sure he will win, but yes I'm assuming he does, like we'er assuming Mayweather gets past Gatti, but obvoiusly now since Roy Jones is gone, and if Hopkins is gone, Trinidad would take the #1 spot before Floyd, so I'll take a guess hes hoping for Winky to win :D .

davico
03-11-2005, 01:21 AM
I'm pretty sure he will win, but yes I'm assuming he does, like we'er assuming Mayweather gets past Gatti, but obvoiusly now since Roy Jones is gone, and if Hopkins is gone, Trinidad would take the #1 spot before Floyd, so I'll take a guess hes hoping for Winky to win :D .

How do you figure Trinidad goes ahead of PBF? PBF will still be undefeated unlike your man

psychopath
03-11-2005, 02:53 AM
Mayweather is a nobody. Who has he beat and what has he achieved to be ranked the best fighter in the world.


You can only see what you want to see . . . :D

jack_the_rippuh
03-11-2005, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I don't get how he thinks Tito Trinidad will get the #1 spot just by Hopkins retiring. Trinidad isn't even in the top 10 right now on most lists...The only way Trinidad can become #1 in my opinion, is if he beats Wright, then go on to beat Hopkins in a devasting fashion, and finally move to 168 and dethrone Calazaghe....that's the only way he can get that #1 p4p spot. But Hopkins' retiring won't automatically move him to #1, if anything it will move Floyd Mayweather to #1.

aand
03-11-2005, 10:48 AM
Beating Gatti in overwelming fashion would do the trick. Beating K.T. would be the icing on the cake.
think the same

ophqui
03-11-2005, 10:59 AM
Personally, i beleive nard hopkins is the best p4p in the world, and for mayweather to be considered the best he need only wait till nard retires. A big win over gatti in his next fight, plus a win over cotto and kt would prove his greatness.

IwatchBoxing
03-11-2005, 11:25 AM
Yeah, I don't get how he thinks Tito Trinidad will get the #1 spot just by Hopkins retiring. Trinidad isn't even in the top 10 right now on most lists...The only way Trinidad can become #1 in my opinion, is if he beats Wright, then go on to beat Hopkins in a devasting fashion, and finally move to 168 and dethrone Calazaghe....that's the only way he can get that #1 p4p spot. But Hopkins' retiring won't automatically move him to #1, if anything it will move Floyd Mayweather to #1.
Trinidad was #2 P4P before the Hopkins fight, Roy Jones was #1 on peoples list, hes gone, than Hopkins took the #1 spot, when Hopkins leaves, or Trinidad beats hopkins, he will get his spot back with interest, Kostya came out of hideing and took his spot, Floyd hasnt beaten fighters Trinidad has, its pretty simple, Hopkins wont leave the #1 spot before the end of the year anyway.

jack_the_rippuh
03-11-2005, 11:35 AM
Trinidad was #2 P4P before the Hopkins fight, Roy Jones was #1 on peoples list, hes gone, than Hopkins took the #1 spot, when Hopkins leaves, or Trinidad beats hopkins, he will get his spot back with interest, Kostya came out of hideing and took his spot, Floyd hasnt beaten fighters Trinidad has, its pretty simple, Hopkins wont leave the #1 spot before the end of the year anyway.

Kostya beat one of the best in the division to get that spot, Trinidad fought someone who was never before in that division (Mayorga). The only way Trinidad gets his spot back "with interest" is if he beats Hopkins worse than how Hopkins beat him..

IwatchBoxing
03-11-2005, 11:37 AM
Kostya beat one of the best in the division to get that spot, Trinidad fought someone who was never before in that division (Mayorga). The only way Trinidad gets his spot back "with interest" is if he beats Hopkins worse than how Hopkins beat him..
Hahahaha, you Trinidad haters are in for a ride this year.
:drive:

mic573
03-11-2005, 12:57 PM
Mayweather is the best fighter in the world but he just needs to beat some of the top guys in his division before I make him #1 again.

MetalVomit
03-11-2005, 01:41 PM
How far does Floyd have to go to prove he is the greatest Fighter in the world?

I think that a win over Gatti and a win over a famous welterweight like Shane Mosely would do it.


If he beats KT, he's in there, unless Hopkins loses or retires, hes going to be #2. Not for nothin, but I dont think he will beat KT if they do fight. June will be an interesting month no doubt.

joeboxer
03-11-2005, 03:53 PM
Anyone else think that Mayweathe could get KO'd at 147 by Mayorga or Mosely or even Spinks?

RwK
03-11-2005, 04:29 PM
Why in the hell does Floyd have to "unify the Welterweight division".

what the hell is wrong with unifying the "light-welterweight" division?

It is Jam Packed with better fighters than 147lbs.

So that means,

the majority of the voters think all he has to do, is beat Zab

Judah, that makes no sense, Tszyu is the prime target. Not Zab.

joeboxer
03-11-2005, 08:23 PM
Why in the hell does Floyd have to "unify the Welterweight division".

what the hell is wrong with unifying the "light-welterweight" division?

It is Jam Packed with better fighters than 147lbs.

So that means,

the majority of the voters think all he has to do, is beat Zab

Judah, that makes no sense, Tszyu is the prime target. Not Zab.


Really solid points. It is just something about moving up in weight that really seems to prove a lot about your P4P status.

Although I totally agree 140 has much more talent than 147. Especially when you take Oscar De La Hoya out of the mix at 147, and possibly Corey Spinks.