After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight :D :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

some things i can guarantee is EM may not box but would definitely be using dirty tactics (like MAB and JMM did) and will intintly watching more on the best timing for his uppercut. but Pac is gonna use his speed to land his gloves first before EM could make his move. we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman or try to give EM more favor. i wouldnt be surprised if it happens. specially at MGM. i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO? :boxing:

some things i can guarantee is EM may not box but would definitely be using dirty tactics (like MAB and JMM did) and will intintly watching more on the best timing for his uppercut. but Pac is gonna use his speed to land his gloves first before EM could make his move. we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman or try to give EM more favor. i wouldnt be surprised if it happens. specially at MGM. i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO? :boxing:

lol how can you have no doubts?!?!?! lol It's Erik ****ing MORALES :eek:

Elpacman, for one thing, I don't think Erik would start strong. I've yet to see him do that in the past, so why would Pac be any different from anyone else he faced. I believe he likes to see what the other guy has too offer before unleashing his own. I mean unless his plan is to take Manny out early (I highly doubt that) he'll size him up like everyone else he beat.

In anycase, it really depends on the guy who can make adjustments to the other. Common sense screams Morales, but who knows. Not even barrera who's neutralized Naz was able to do it. Maybe with range? Ahhh I cna't wait to see the fight :D

some things i can guarantee is EM may not box but would definitely be using dirty tactics (like MAB and JMM did) and will intintly watching more on the best timing for his uppercut. but Pac is gonna use his speed to land his gloves first before EM could make his move. we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman or try to give EM more favor. i wouldnt be surprised if it happens. specially at MGM. i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO? :boxing:


Honestly...if you are going to post this kind of BS then just don't post at all.

Tell me when exactly Morales has been known to get overly dirty in his fights? Please...I'd like each fight and each round where he directly used dirty tactics.

Why would Cortez favor Morales? Because you say so? Or is it because Cortez has bad blood with Manny and has a history of bias in his past :rolleyes:

Your conspiracy theories (will THEY let Pac win without a KO) make YOU sound as if you have little faith in your fighter to go the distance. Evos it will all be okay...no one is out to get Pacquiao. If anything, if there are extremely close rounds, those rounds will probably go to Pacquiao because he is the flashier fighter of the two. In the mean time, stop making excuses before the fight. :cool:

lol how can you have no doubts?!?!?! lol It's Erik ****ing MORALES :eek:

Elpacman, for one thing, I don't think Erik would start strong. I've yet to see him do that in the past, so why would Pac be any different from anyone else he faced. I believe he likes to see what the other guy has too offer before unleashing his own. I mean unless his plan is to take Manny out early (I highly doubt that) he'll size him up like everyone else he beat.

In anycase, it really depends on the guy who can make adjustments to the other. Common sense screams Morales, but who knows. Not even barrera who's neutralized Naz was able to do it. Maybe with range? Ahhh I cna't wait to see the fight :D


I agree...I think Morales is going to pay for information by taking a few punches early, and then he'll start to open up more. This is going to be a hell of a fight.

Nah You know this fight shouldent even be in boxing they should take this **** to the octagon cause after the first 5 shots someones going down fast this ****s going to war i think its going to end up on who has a better chin heart and balls.

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight :D

Great analysis, but rather too simplistic I think. Each of the two knows he is facing not just an ordinary opponent but one of the best P4P warriors of today. So both camps will not be making any such assumption or underestimation but rather prepare for the worst and lots of surprises.

I mean I'm sure Team Pac is preparing not for a slow or a slowed-down Morales, but for a very intelligent and durable opponent that he is. In the same manner, I'm sure Morales himself is not preparing for a one-dimensional opponent, but for a Pacman who has developed or added more powerful weapons in his arsenal.

This could well be the fight of their lives or careers. So they can never afford to leave anything to chance. Yes, this will make for one of the greatest fight of all time! :boxing:

lol how can you have no doubts?!?!?! lol It's Erik ****ing MORALES :eek:

Elpacman, for one thing, I don't think Erik would start strong. I've yet to see him do that in the past, so why would Pac be any different from anyone else he faced. I believe he likes to see what the other guy has too offer before unleashing his own. I mean unless his plan is to take Manny out early (I highly doubt that) he'll size him up like everyone else he beat.

In anycase, it really depends on the guy who can make adjustments to the other. Common sense screams Morales, but who knows. Not even barrera who's neutralized Naz was able to do it. Maybe with range? Ahhh I cna't wait to see the fight :D

i thought i heared those remarks before like "its Marco Antonio the ****in' Barrera!" but no ofense bro, you're asking why would Pac be any diffrent from anyone else EM faced. i think its obvious why in this match Pac's the favorite. i dont have to restate everything that had already been posted in this site why it is so. but dont get me wrong when i said that "i have no doubt that Manny will win." just coz i said that, doesnt mean its gonna be a walk in the park for Pac. if you have read my post from the other thread, i have guessed that it'l be a late round stopage by Manny because Em is a durable fighter and Pac needs to work hard on the wear and tear to achieve that. regarding adjustments and common sense, if you do know Morales, you'd also know that he tends to brawl and lose his strategy everytime he gets tagged despite his corner strictly telling him to box. :D

Honestly...if you are going to post this kind of BS then just don't post at all.

Tell me when exactly Morales has been known to get overly dirty in his fights? Please...I'd like each fight and each round where he directly used dirty tactics.

Why would Cortez favor Morales? Because you say so? Or is it because Cortez has bad blood with Manny and has a history of bias in his past :rolleyes:

Your conspiracy theories (will THEY let Pac win without a KO) make YOU sound as if you have little faith in your fighter to go the distance. Evos it will all be okay...no one is out to get Pacquiao. If anything, if there are extremely close rounds, those rounds will probably go to Pacquiao because he is the flashier fighter of the two. In the mean time, stop making excuses before the fight. :cool:

common man! quit being a hippocrite. you know that these factors can anytime play a major role in boxing. if you want to know the reason why it may happen, then i'll give you the answer..."BUSINESS, SIMPLY BUSINES!" so quit telling people what to post or not to post coz you're not that good poster yourself if that's how you see yourself.

regarding EM, using dirty tactics. can you realy read? tell me exactly where in my post did i said that EM get OVERLY dirty? but maybe you'd agree that he did used some for a few times. havent you seen him used some? maybe you wanna see how he used elbows and shoulders when he fought Chi. these are all part of the sport man. common! wake up and get out of wonderland!
:boxing:

Great analysis, but rather too simplistic I think. Each of the two knows he is facing not just an ordinary opponent but one of the best P4P warriors of today. So both camps will not be making any such assumption or underestimation but rather prepare for the worst and lots of surprises.

I mean I'm sure Team Pac is preparing not for a slow or a slowed-down Morales, but for a very intelligent and durable opponent that he is. In the same manner, I'm sure Morales himself is not preparing for a one-dimensional opponent, but for a Pacman who has developed or added more powerful weapons in his arsenal.

This could well be the fight of their lives or careers. So they can never afford to leave anything to chance. Yes, this will make for one of the greatest fight of all time! :boxing:

i'd even go for this one. :D

i thought i heared those remarks before like "its Marco Antonio the ****in' Barrera!" but no ofense bro, you're asking why would Pac be any diffrent from anyone else EM faced. i think its obvious why in this match Pac's the favorite. i dont have to restate everything that had already been posted in this site why it is so. but dont get me wrong when i said that "i have no doubt that Manny will win." just coz i said that, doesnt mean its gonna be a walk in the park for Pac. if you have read my post from the other thread, i have guessed that it'l be a late round stopage by Manny because Em is a durable fighter and Pac needs to work hard on the wear and tear to achieve that. regarding adjustments and common sense, if you do know Morales, you'd also know that he tends to brawl and lose his strategy everytime he gets tagged despite his corner strictly telling him to box. :D

I asked that question because Elpacman was probably thinking that Morales would come out faster and more agressive than usual. Which I doubt. Just when you said you have no doubt, it;s taking something away from EM but it's your opinion I was just trying to understand that.

If anything, if there are extremely close rounds, those rounds will probably go to Pacquiao because he is the flashier fighter of the two. In the mean time, stop making excuses before the fight. :cool:

Nah I think it'll go to Morales the close rounds, although Pac is flashier, Erik's long arms make the punches look crisp and accurate and if he connects, it'll look cleaner. But **** it, to be honest, I want Pac to win and would support him 100% but if he looses no biggie. I just wanna see how he fares with Erik Morales (always regarded him as the ultimate test, more than Barrera)

Great analysis, but rather too simplistic I think. Each of the two knows he is facing not just an ordinary opponent but one of the best P4P warriors of today. So both camps will not be making any such assumption or underestimation but rather prepare for the worst and lots of surprises.

I mean I'm sure Team Pac is preparing not for a slow or a slowed-down Morales, but for a very intelligent and durable opponent that he is. In the same manner, I'm sure Morales himself is not preparing for a one-dimensional opponent, but for a Pacman who has developed or added more powerful weapons in his arsenal.

This could well be the fight of their lives or careers. So they can never afford to leave anything to chance. Yes, this will make for one of the greatest fight of all time! :boxing:


Haha well actually man, I'm just basing this off recent interviews that went around. Heck we even got Manny on video saying out of his mouth that he believes Morales has slowed down. If he truely believes this in his mind, it might be an over confidence that will work against him if he thinks he will be dealing with a slow target which Barrera seemed to have infront of him in their 3rd fight. Morales on the other hand, in interviews helabels Manny as a simple 1 dimensional fighter that can't adapt when the situation changes. While I haven't seen this enough in Manny fights to really believe it, his trouble with Marquez is clearly what Morales was talking about. So this will be exciting non the less :D BTW-I just saw the commerical on USA! The only other times were on the YES Network which is sports related. Having it even on channel USA was really cool. I hope it does really well on PPV sales because both fighters deserve to be payed big. :boxing:

I asked that question because Elpacman was probably thinking that Morales would come out faster and more agressive than usual. Which I doubt. Just when you said you have no doubt, it;s taking something away from EM but it's your opinion I was just trying to understand that.

Nah I think it'll go to Morales the close rounds, although Pac is flashier, Erik's long arms make the punches look crisp and accurate and if he connects, it'll look cleaner.

yeah. with the way you said it, i guess you did. and you think its gonna be EM ei? i wonder how EM's gonna do that with Manny's in-out style. and what's he (EM) gonna do? :confused:

:drillserg <shouting> <Yelling and spitting>

[shouting]
Allright maggots listen. I want you on either side. No More riding the fence like a sissy! you ladies hear me! I WANT YOU TO PICK A WINNER, BECAUSE YOU ARE KILLERS, AND THATS WHAT KILLERS DO!

sorry. I could not resist.

yeah. with the way you said it, i guess you did. and you think its gonna be EM ei? i wonder how EM's gonna do that with Manny's in-out style. and what's he (EM) gonna do? :confused:

lol I actually think Many will win with just that, the in and out movements. You think he's backing up then BAM BAM BAM 3 shot combo on your face lol Out of no where. But Manny can still be hit, and you know in boxing it only takes one freak punch to get you hurt or to down. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN :boxing: That's what makes teh sport beautifull

Haha well actually man, I'm just basing this off recent interviews that went around. Heck we even got Manny on video saying out of his mouth that he believes Morales has slowed down. If he truely believes this in his mind, it might be an over confidence that will work against him if he thinks he will be dealing with a slow target which Barrera seemed to have infront of him in their 3rd fight. Morales on the other hand, in interviews helabels Manny as a simple 1 dimensional fighter that can't adapt when the situation changes. While I haven't seen this enough in Manny fights to really believe it, his trouble with Marquez is clearly what Morales was talking about. So this will be exciting non the less :D BTW-I just saw the commerical on USA! The only other times were on the YES Network which is sports related. Having it even on channel USA was really cool. I hope it does really well on PPV sales because both fighters deserve to be payed big. :boxing:

thought its may seem that way through interviews, i could say its part of the mental war trying to intimidate the other by seeding it to their heads. but the way a fighter fights in the ring, you can somehow tell how they realy think. and i do think they both give each other a great deal of respect that one cant simply under estimate the other. that's why they'll be giving their best come fight night. :)

Haha well actually man, I'm just basing this off recent interviews that went around. Heck we even got Manny on video saying out of his mouth that he believes Morales has slowed down. If he truely believes this in his mind, it might be an over confidence that will work against him if he thinks he will be dealing with a slow target which Barrera seemed to have infront of him in their 3rd fight. Morales on the other hand, in interviews helabels Manny as a simple 1 dimensional fighter that can't adapt when the situation changes. While I haven't seen this enough in Manny fights to really believe it, his trouble with Marquez is clearly what Morales was talking about. So this will be exciting non the less :D BTW-I just saw the commerical on USA! The only other times were on the YES Network which is sports related. Having it even on channel USA was really cool. I hope it does really well on PPV sales because both fighters deserve to be payed big. :boxing:

Got your point bro! These are what have been going around, but I believe they're just a ploy or strategy to mislead or confuse the other camp. :rolleyes:

About the US news, that's COOL, man. That should do a lot to make the fight big on PPV! :cool:

Manny has a AK47 Fast Rapid Fire Deadly Shots

Erik Has a Sniper rifle slower puncher more accurate also deadly.

Pacmans going to get sniped.

Manny has a AK47 Fast Rapid Fire Deadly Shots

Erik Has a Sniper rifle slower puncher more accurate also deadly.

Pacmans going to get sniped.


Do not forget:

Manny uses ropes to strangle his victims,

and Morales can interchange ammo in his sniper rifle. From the usual 30/30 bore to a .50 caliber.

Lmao. This is going to be awesome man. I have not looked forward to a fight like this since Vargas vs de la hoya. Everyones going to come after the fight and start **** talking, making excuses, someones going to have a badnight haha.

Morales is tough but Pac will be faster and throwing rights as hard as lefts. Pac ko in 8

lol I actually think Many will win with just that, the in and out movements. You think he's backing up then BAM BAM BAM 3 shot combo on your face lol Out of no where. But Manny can still be hit, and you know in boxing it only takes one freak punch to get you hurt or to down. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN :boxing: That's what makes teh sport beautifull

cmon, i just mentioned one of Pac's styles based on your statement that says, "Erik's long arms make the punches look crisp and accurate and if he connects, it'll look cleaner. " coz i can hardly imagine EM doing that to Manny's in-out style. but ofcourse you know very well that Manny has more than just that dont you? and you're right that anything can happen in the ring. but we're talking about winning based on styles here regardless of luck. coz if we'll be talking about luck, it'll be none sense when a good style of a fighter was smothered by just one freakin' punch. but if you're a smart and tough fighter, it wont be that easy unless your opponent is extra ordinary. have EM ever been cleanly KDed? i bet never, but that is yet to be seen when he faces an opponent with an exceptional punching power and speed like Manny. and if you see Manny hittable, much more with Morales. Manny is a moving target with good defense while EM has less of those. but he is durable. :boxing:

One thing I wonder is how Pac will deal with Morales right hand since he has always been open to it. I think Roach will drill that into him and he will neutrilize alot of Morales and im sure Morales will do the same with Pacs left. I see one major factor in this fight and that is speed and Pacs fast starting pace and Morales slow pace. I doubt he can change that now and when Pac comes at him full speed in round 1 i think Morales will throw stategy out the window. Its gonna be a war i cant wait. ;)

Im learning that this is the easiest place to make enemys Im going to recommend these forums to my friends hahahaha.

some things i can guarantee is EM may not box but would definitely be using dirty tactics (like MAB and JMM did) and will intintly watching more on the best timing for his uppercut. but Pac is gonna use his speed to land his gloves first before EM could make his move. we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman or try to give EM more favor. i wouldnt be surprised if it happens. specially at MGM. i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO? :boxing:
This is pure ****. Morales won't box, Cortez is incompetent, Pac won't be allowed to win, and the dog ate your homework, right?

:boxing: One thing I wonder is how Pac will deal with Morales right hand since he has always been open to it. I think Roach will drill that into him and he will neutrilize alot of Morales and im sure Morales will do the same with Pacs left. I see one major factor in this fight and that is speed and Pacs fast starting pace and Morales slow pace. I doubt he can change that now and when Pac comes at him full speed in round 1 i think Morales will throw stategy out the window. Its gonna be a war i cant wait. ;)

i think Manny's Mortar 101 that he used and KO'ed Fhasan 3K Battery is tailor maid for right handed fighters. once the opponent's right hand attacks, it will fire. and you can see that even thought the opponent is guarding his right chin, this style can go deep from below. and its hard to stop from Pacquiao because of his quicknes. you'll never know if he'll be throwing a left straight or left uppercut or right jab/cross. damn, imagine if he'll be adding more like the "Manila Ice." All of it are devastating.

Im learning that this is the easiest place to make enemys Im going to recommend these forums to my friends hahahaha.

For one, the pinoys will tear you apart if you say the words:

"MAB, or "Morales".

The boricuas will attack relentlessly if you say "Hopkins" or "Wright".

Tysonhuggers will attack the heavyweight discussions, and the haters are rampant like the plague.

This is pure ****. Morales won't box, Cortez is incompetent, Pac won't be allowed to win, and the dog ate your homework, right?

nope, i guess the dog ate your brains out that you can hardly understand what you're reading. its says Morales MAY NOT box not WON'T box. have you seen any word like incompetent in that post? and worse, who said Pac wont be allowed to win? it should be interpreted as... "he may if he KO EM." now i think you reacted like **** by posting **** dont you think? :D

nope, i guess the dog ate your brains out that you can hardly understand what you're reading. its says Morales MAY NOT box not WON'T box. have you seen any word like incompetent in that post? and worse, who said Pac wont be allowed to win? it should be interpreted as... "he may if he KO EM." now i think you reacted like **** by posting **** dont you think? :D


I can hardly understand what you're writing because you're english is so mind-numbingly poor.

Evos, it's called IMPLYING a meaning behind the words that you write. Do you understand that? It means you are not directly saying something, rather suggesting it. By being an obvious Pacquiao supporter and saying, "Morales may not box" you are implying that you think he will get dragged into a war. By saying, "We might see some bad calls by Cortez or he may try to give Morales more favor" you are implying that Cortez is going to make calls that will hurt Pacquiao and help Morales, thus the incompetent part. By saying, "I have no doubts that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is WILL THEY ALLOW HIM TO WIN WITHOUT A KO?" implies that you think the judges are going to rob him should the decision goes to the cards.

Maybe it's just the fact that you can't help but butcher the english language, but people misunderstand what you say (myself included) and misinterpret your posts. If you meant something else then no problemo...but Munn basically summed up everything you suggested in your post.

I can hardly understand what you're writing because you're english is so mind-numbingly poor.

Evos, it's called IMPLYING a meaning behind the words that you write. Do you understand that? It means you are not directly saying something, rather suggesting it. By being an obvious Pacquiao supporter and saying, "Morales may not box" you are implying that you think he will get dragged into a war. By saying, "We might see some bad calls by Cortez or he may try to give Morales more favor" you are implying that Cortez is going to make calls that will hurt Pacquiao and help Morales, thus the incompetent part. By saying, "I have no doubts that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is WILL THEY ALLOW HIM TO WIN WITHOUT A KO?" implies that you think the judges are going to rob him should the decision goes to the cards.

Maybe it's just the fact that you can't help but butcher the english language, but people misunderstand what you say (myself included) and misinterpret your posts. If you meant something else then no problemo...but Munn basically summed up everything you suggested in your post.

.... Good THING YOU WERENT REFERRING TO ME. I would of been owned.

cmon, i just mentioned one of Pac's styles based on your statement that says, "Erik's long arms make the punches look crisp and accurate and if he connects, it'll look cleaner. " coz i can hardly imagine EM doing that to Manny's in-out style. but ofcourse you know very well that Manny has more than just that dont you? and you're right that anything can happen in the ring. but we're talking about winning based on styles here regardless of luck. coz if we'll be talking about luck, it'll be none sense when a good style of a fighter was smothered by just one freakin' punch. but if you're a smart and tough fighter, it wont be that easy unless your opponent is extra ordinary. have EM ever been cleanly KDed? i bet never, but that is yet to be seen when he faces an opponent with an exceptional punching power and speed like Manny. and if you see Manny hittable, much more with Morales. Manny is a moving target with good defense while EM has less of those. but he is durable. :boxing:

I'm a big Pac fan. I saw practically all of his fights multiple times. I have his 2 documentaries vcds. I check his site everyday for news. But I'm also REALISTIC. Bro you're talking like Morales don't have chance, and "based on styles" he'll get beat by Pac. Your talking like it's a sure thing. I don't think you know Morales or have seen him enough to understand the magnitude
of the threat he poses in the ring....

Honestly...if you are going to post this kind of BS then just don't post at all.

Tell me when exactly Morales has been known to get overly dirty in his fights? Please...I'd like each fight and each round where he directly used dirty tactics.

Why would Cortez favor Morales? Because you say so? Or is it because Cortez has bad blood with Manny and has a history of bias in his past :rolleyes:

Your conspiracy theories (will THEY let Pac win without a KO) make YOU sound as if you have little faith in your fighter to go the distance. Evos it will all be okay...no one is out to get Pacquiao. If anything, if there are extremely close rounds, those rounds will probably go to Pacquiao because he is the flashier fighter of the two. In the mean time, stop making excuses before the fight. :cool:

I wondered the same thing OG! Morales is alot of things, but a dirty fighter is NOT one of them. Why in the hell does any fan feel the need to insult Erik just cause he's fighting Pac? I'll never understand that! :confused:

lol dirty tactics from one of the cleanest fighters in the sport hahaha... where do people come up with this stuff.

:p

lol dirty tactics from one of the cleanest fighters in the sport hahaha... where do people come up with this stuff.

:p

I like Pac just fine, and I'm liking him more and more..each fight of his that I watch. That being said, some of his fans will say ANYTHING..no matter how outrageous, just cause their guy is fighting! I've read that Erik is a coward, cannot box, and now that he's dirty! Unbelievable! :eek: I've said it before, and I'll say it one more time...one can pump pac up without putting the other guy down!

I can hardly understand what you're writing because you're english is so mind-numbingly poor.

Evos, it's called IMPLYING a meaning behind the words that you write. Do you understand that? It means you are not directly saying something, rather suggesting it. By being an obvious Pacquiao supporter and saying, "Morales may not box" you are implying that you think he will get dragged into a war. By saying, "We might see some bad calls by Cortez or he may try to give Morales more favor" you are implying that Cortez is going to make calls that will hurt Pacquiao and help Morales, thus the incompetent part. By saying, "I have no doubts that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is WILL THEY ALLOW HIM TO WIN WITHOUT A KO?" implies that you think the judges are going to rob him should the decision goes to the cards.

Maybe it's just the fact that you can't help but butcher the english language, but people misunderstand what you say (myself included) and misinterpret your posts. If you meant something else then no problemo...but Munn basically summed up everything you suggested in your post.

oldgringo, let me teach you a little basic understanding on your word "IMPLYING". what you're trying to explain is not IMPLYING, that is simply "PUTTING WORDS INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S MOUTH." and i dont think that kind of simple post is hard for you to understand. you can even explain it well, except you gave more malice in it. i used precise and simple terms to deliver what it realy meant but you basically gave it more meaning beyond the definition of terms used. now, just because one missed to type the associated word in a statement, doesnt mean he has poor english does he?

anyway, just to justify my basis for that post, i'll rather explain it further. this is based on my own opinion ofcourse in which you dont have the right to alter unless i wish to do so. pls take note of the difference of your choice of words as highlighted in your post.

when i said that EM "MAY not box", i ment EM could "possibly" just slug it out once he's tagged as he always did. this means he may or may not do it as he pleases. there's a BIG difference there in your explanation when you used the word "WILL". in which case has no other alternative way except as how you perceived it. got it?

when i said "we could be seeing bad calls from Cortez," i was thinkin' of Manny's fight with JMM when he got too many intentional low blows and yet Cortez didnt even gave JMM a single point deduction. plus, when JMM was KD'ed the 3rd time, he even let JMM rest for 15sec! isnt that all infavor of JMM? is that impossible to happen between Pac and EM? again to correct your explanation, you used the term "going to." but i used the word "could be" which means "again, only a possibility."

and when i said "will they allow him to win w/o a KO," this time its just a question whether they will or will not do anything stupid like what happenned in the past. i was thinkin' about the decision of PAC-JMM where Clements scored the first round 10-7 when it should have been 10-6 for Pac that caused Manny two world title. plus, Guy Jutras' total scoring is so questionable that in a close and tight rounds after the 1st, he scored 10 rounds for Marquez which is obviously impossible. even when Pacman faught MAB, there are a lot of bad calls of Laurance Cole against Manny which are so obvious. if it werent for the KO and the KD's, it could have also been a draw. you see how these things play a major part of every action? considering the fact that no Filipino fighter has ever won a fight in MGM Las Vegas? now what am saying here is that its not impossible to happen in Pac-EM match isnt it? again, its just a "possibility". but you kept on using the term "going to."

i hope this is reachable by your level of intelligence. if not, you can always use an adjective on my english as an excuse like you always do. :D

I'm a big Pac fan. I saw practically all of his fights multiple times. I have his 2 documentaries vcds. I check his site everyday for news. But I'm also REALISTIC. Bro you're talking like Morales don't have chance, and "based on styles" he'll get beat by Pac. Your talking like it's a sure thing. I don't think you know Morales or have seen him enough to understand the magnitude
of the threat he poses in the ring....

cmon man, did i say anything about EM not getting any chance? how come you guys are so quick in putting words into others' mouth? again, i am saying these in my oppinion based on tactics and not by chances and i believe that am entitled for it. if you dont want it, fine. jsut dont take it personally. god, whats with you guys?

hey, dont take this personally guys. this is just an oppinion ok? it is not impossible for every fighter to use some dirty tactics if they need to specially if the fight is going lopsided. am saying this based on what EM's countrymen had done when they faught Pacman. when felt that they are in trouble and they cant win the fight by doing it fairly. it has been proven by MAB and JMM. so dont tell me that its impossible for EM to do this. its all possible to all fighters. that is if you realy know how it is. i said it before and i'll say it again. these are just possiblities so dont take it personally. now you may say your own oppinion but dont start smack taklking like some did. i dont start, i just bounce back. :)

if any of you realy do think that am wrong. then post your reeasons why you think any of what i said is IMPOSSIBLE to happen in the Pac-EM fight. prove me that it is impossible. i dont understand what's to react with the word "POSSIBILITY."

funny. many had reacted but none can explain their side how its not possible that EM's capable of using some dirty tactics. maybe you all realized that its part of the sport and every fighter is capable of using it specially if the situation calls for it. MAB did some. does that mean MAB has become a legend coz he fight dirty? JMM did it. does it mean he holds two titles coz he plays dirty? do they always do it? i guess not. but one thing is certain. they all did it to Pacquiao. and i dont see it impossible for Erik to do so if he needs to. its all part of the game. but it is also the job of the referee to watch these. so quit wining ok? specially if you cant realy defend your wining...

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight :D :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:
psy-war, it's just psy-war

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight :D :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:
they are just saying the what the media wants to hear...

oldgringo, let me teach you a little basic understanding on your word "IMPLYING". what you're trying to explain is not IMPLYING, that is simply "PUTTING WORDS INTO SOMEBODY ELSE'S MOUTH." and i dont think that kind of simple post is hard for you to understand. you can even explain it well, except you gave more malice in it. i used precise and simple terms to deliver what it realy meant but you basically gave it more meaning beyond the definition of terms used. now, just because one missed to type the associated word in a statement, doesnt mean he has poor english does he?

anyway, just to justify my basis for that post, i'll rather explain it further. this is based on my own opinion ofcourse in which you dont have the right to alter unless i wish to do so. pls take note of the difference of your choice of words as highlighted in your post.

when i said that EM "MAY not box", i ment EM could "possibly" just slug it out once he's tagged as he always did. this means he may or may not do it as he pleases. there's a BIG difference there in your explanation when you used the word "WILL". in which case has no other alternative way except as how you perceived it. got it?

when i said "we could be seeing bad calls from Cortez," i was thinkin' of Manny's fight with JMM when he got too many intentional low blows and yet Cortez didnt even gave JMM a single point deduction. plus, when JMM was KD'ed the 3rd time, he even let JMM rest for 15sec! isnt that all infavor of JMM? is that impossible to happen between Pac and EM? again to correct your explanation, you used the term "going to." but i used the word "could be" which means "again, only a possibility."

and when i said "will they allow him to win w/o a KO," this time its just a question whether they will or will not do anything stupid like what happenned in the past. i was thinkin' about the decision of PAC-JMM where Clements scored the first round 10-7 when it should have been 10-6 for Pac that caused Manny two world title. plus, Guy Jutras' total scoring is so questionable that in a close and tight rounds after the 1st, he scored 10 rounds for Marquez which is obviously impossible. even when Pacman faught MAB, there are a lot of bad calls of Laurance Cole against Manny which are so obvious. if it werent for the KO and the KD's, it could have also been a draw. you see how these things play a major part of every action? considering the fact that no Filipino fighter has ever won a fight in MGM Las Vegas? now what am saying here is that its not impossible to happen in Pac-EM match isnt it? again, its just a "possibility". but you kept on using the term "going to."

i hope this is reachable by your level of intelligence. if not, you can always use an adjective on my english as an excuse like you always do. :D


Thank you. All we need is a nice, somewhat clearer explanation of what you actually intend to say. It's often hard to communicate with you because IMO you write a bunch of stuff without thinking of how your message will be perceived by others. You WERE the, "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA" guy not so long ago. All I have to say is THINK before you post, you may hear back from people who ill-receive your post if you don't. But maybe you don't care I dunno.

As for Morales using dirty tactics...well of course he's capable of fouling Manny, but Manny is also capable of fouling Morales. Basically what you did in your original post was simply speculate. But you are throwing out random situations without evidence. And that "Morales used elbows against Chi" example is tired and overexaggerated. You have to be insanely paranoid to believe that the judges were out get Manny in the Marquez fight or that they'll wrong him on March 19th.

You have an opinion and that's fine. But you are spewing out random **** without being objective. You are generalizing when you say, "Morales' countrymen used dirty tactics when they were in trouble (JMM, Barrera) so why is it impossible for Morales to do so?" Not every Mexican fighter is the same...sure its possible for Morales to foul Pacquiao, but no more than the converse. Give Morales a fair shake and people will respect your opinion more.

That entire last sentence you typed was just part of the bull**** that makes it hard for people to communicate with you. That, "I hope this is reachable blah blah blah" BS makes that entire quality post you just made worthless. I never insulted your intelligence directly, although I could have. I stated that your english was not very good...it was hard for me to understand because some of the wording looked like a person with a severe case of dyslexia wrote it. I understand that you are a pretty intelligent guy when not discussing certain aspects of Pacquiao. I guess i'll just have to take what you say at face value from now on and not read into your posts for deeper meaning. :cool:

I'm a big Pac fan. I saw practically all of his fights multiple times. I have his 2 documentaries vcds. I check his site everyday for news. But I'm also REALISTIC. Bro you're talking like Morales don't have chance, and "based on styles" he'll get beat by Pac. Your talking like it's a sure thing. I don't think you know Morales or have seen him enough to understand the magnitude
of the threat he poses in the ring....


EVOS LOOKY HERE. Even some of Pacs biggest fans are objective. You act as if Morales is just some tough tomato can mexican.

if any of you realy do think that am wrong. then post your reeasons why you think any of what i said is IMPOSSIBLE to happen in the Pac-EM fight. prove me that it is impossible. i dont understand what's to react with the word "POSSIBILITY."


Nothing you said is impossible. It's just very unlikely. Like it's been said a million times, Morales is one of the cleanest fighters in the sport. But if you're right then you get the added bonus of rubbing it all in everyones face after the fight so at least you can get a good night's rest tonight.

Thank you. All we need is a nice, somewhat clearer explanation of what you actually intend to say. It's often hard to communicate with you because IMO you write a bunch of stuff without thinking of how your message will be perceived by others. You WERE the, "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA" guy not so long ago. All I have to say is THINK before you post, you may hear back from people who ill-receive your post if you don't. But maybe you don't care I dunno.

As for Morales using dirty tactics...well of course he's capable of fouling Manny, but Manny is also capable of fouling Morales. Basically what you did in your original post was simply speculate. But you are throwing out random situations without evidence. And that "Morales used elbows against Chi" example is tired and overexaggerated. You have to be insanely paranoid to believe that the judges were out get Manny in the Marquez fight or that they'll wrong him on March 19th.

You have an opinion and that's fine. But you are spewing out random **** without being objective. You are generalizing when you say, "Morales' countrymen used dirty tactics when they were in trouble (JMM, Barrera) so why is it impossible for Morales to do so?" Not every Mexican fighter is the same...sure its possible for Morales to foul Pacquiao, but no more than the converse. Give Morales a fair shake and people will respect your opinion more.

That entire last sentence you typed was just part of the bull**** that makes it hard for people to communicate with you. That, "I hope this is reachable blah blah blah" BS makes that entire quality post you just made worthless. I never insulted your intelligence directly, although I could have. I stated that your english was not very good...it was hard for me to understand because some of the wording looked like a person with a severe case of dyslexia wrote it. I understand that you are a pretty intelligent guy when not discussing certain aspects of Pacquiao. I guess i'll just have to take what you say at face value from now on and not read into your posts for deeper meaning. :cool:

oh, i can see that you havent got it over with with the "ALL OF THE MEXICAN FIGHTERS ARE CHIKEN GAYS BWAHAHAHAHA," thing. i thought i have cleared that before already. but since i can see that you're the type who demands clearer explanation, it'll be no prblem for me to take time for it. ok, now i want you to pay attention very carefuly and try not to misinterpret this.

the reason why i and some Pac fans said such things is simply to make noise hoping it would reach the fighters so that they'll insist on proving themselves (which EM had just done) that the Pac fans we're wrong, and he's not such kind of fighter. and i believe it was effective dont you think? EM was suppose to be moving up in weight atfer his fight with MAB as he promised. but look where he is now. and you can also see that it was being effective when EM always tried to tell the media men that he wants Pacman thus showing that he aint scared of him and he aint avoiding him, coz he was facing MAB. another reason why such comment was made is to also show how fans would tend to react or think when promoters promises a fight with Pacman then suddenly leaves him out in the cold by taking other fight than what was agreed by principle (i hope you're updated with that case). this is how fans can show power, by making themselves heared. you create issues that will put pressure on the concerned party. but guys like you have taken it seriously and too shallow that it seem to haunt you even in your sleep. well, am sorry for that. i can understand that not all can dig the obvious reasons behind such comments. maybe i should be the one saying THINK or ASK (politely) before reacting. but i do hope its clear on you now.

as for EM-Pac fouling, that's exactly what i meant. but why i said it'll be EM? simple, fighters like them usually use this only when they can see that fighting their opponent fairly is not enough to distract him. again, IMO it might be EM who'll be on that part. and you can say that its gonna be Pac if you do think that Pac will be out hassled (which i doubt). its just an oppinion, no big deal. and its not just speculation, how can you say that when you actually agreed to me that EM himself is capable of doing it? dont you think you contradicted your own accusation?

with regards to being paranoid on Pac being wronged on March 19. how could you say that? didnt i just made it clear on the other post why i thought so? again, if you realy know boxing, you know that these happened many times and it happened to Pacman when he faught JMM and it was in MGM Grand Las Vegas and worse, its both under Bob Arum's influence. its business my friend. a business man like Arum will do ANYTHING and i mean ANYTHING to win. that is ofcourse if Pac fails to KO EM. now again let me ask you is it not possible to happen? if you'd believe that it could, how then can you say am being paranoid of that? in these case you seemed to be the one spewing out random **** without being objective.

about generalizing Morales' countrymen using dirty tactics when they were in trouble, am just trying to narrow it down to the persons (JMM and MAB) involved with Pacman. but if you're going to carefuly understand it, i think again i have made it clear that all fighters are capable of doing so but that doesnt meant am not giving EM a fair shake. again, you're accusing me of how you think it is. that's just too shallow.

as for some people having trouble communicating with me by insulting their intelligence. maybe wanna take another glance read your last part of your post and maybe you wanna look into the mirror and say it again to me. besides, if you'll look back on the posts in this thread, you'll see who started giving oppinions and who started talking bull****! now if you want iit to be cool just say it cool and quit using terms that wont justify your intention of getting cool. COOL! :D

Originally Posted by m00ks
I'm a big Pac fan. I saw practically all of his fights multiple times. I have his 2 documentaries vcds. I check his site everyday for news. But I'm also REALISTIC. Bro you're talking like Morales don't have chance, and "based on styles" he'll get beat by Pac. Your talking like it's a sure thing. I don't think you know Morales or have seen him enough to understand the magnitude
of the threat he poses in the ring....

EVOS LOOKY HERE. Even some of Pacs biggest fans are objective. You act as if Morales is just some tough tomato can mexican.

when will you ever learn not to try PUTTING WORDS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTH? where did you get the thought of me think Morales is some tough tomato can Mexican? if you read my other posts in other threads, you'd see how great respect i have for Morales. but the way you talk, i doubt it. you guys are so sensitive on this. its just one post. an oppinion on what EM MIGHT do and who i think is gonna win. just like as anybody in this site would do. doing predictions and everythng. if that is his oppinion, no big deal. and am also being REALISTIC when i said "no doubt that Manny will win (based on styles)." dont you think this is the obvious reason why majority of the experts and fans can see Manny winning this fight? isnt it obvious that out of many Morales fans in this site, only few has the balls to bet on him? i mean cmon, what am saying is my oppinion is not so different to theirs. how can that be NOT BEING REALISTIC? the only difference in my posted oppinion is that i consider outside factors that may disappoint many spectators as what happened in Pac-JMM fight. AGAIN, tell me if its impoissible.

when will you ever learn not to try PUTTING WORDS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTH? where did you get the thought of me think Morales is some tough tomato can Mexican? if you read my other posts in other threads, you'd see how great respect i have for Morales. but the way you talk, i doubt it. you guys are so sensitive on this. its just one post. an oppinion on what EM MIGHT do and who i think is gonna win. just like as anybody in this site would do. doing predictions and everythng. if that is his oppinion, no big deal. and am also being REALISTIC when i said "no doubt that Manny will win (based on styles)." dont you think this is the obvious reason why majority of the experts and fans can see Manny winning this fight? isnt it obvious that out of many Morales fans in this site, only few has the balls to bet on him? i mean cmon, what am saying is my oppinion is not so different to theirs. how can that be NOT BEING REALISTIC? the only difference in my posted oppinion is that i consider outside factors that may disappoint many spectators as what happened in Pac-JMM fight. AGAIN, tell me if its impoissible.
LETS GET IT ON!!!

Originally Posted by evosbm
if any of you realy do think that am wrong. then post your reeasons why you think any of what i said is IMPOSSIBLE to happen in the Pac-EM fight. prove me that it is impossible. i dont understand what's to react with the word "POSSIBILITY."

Nothing you said is impossible. It's just very unlikely. Like it's been said a million times, Morales is one of the cleanest fighters in the sport. But if you're right then you get the added bonus of rubbing it all in everyones face after the fight so at least you can get a good night's rest tonight.

you may be right. EM is one of the cleanest fighters. but you have already agreed to me that its POSSIBLE. because of that, this post of yours DOESNT FIT the objective of the subject at hand as i posted above. it would have been better if you did not reply to that and kept silent. or you should have made another post without replying to that.

its as simple as understanding the actual meaning of the word "POSSIBILITY." i dont see anything in it that would stimulate Morales nuthuggers by reacting to it. unless ofcourse one has the malicious and judgemental way of interpreting oppinions. :boxing:

LETS GET IT ON!!!
oh yeah baby! this is thrilling me! yeeeehaaaah!!! the fight is near and i cant wait to see what surprises these fighters have for us to see. i jsut hope the deserving fighter wins this fight and not be affected by boxing politics. otherwise, its gonna be a very memorrable fight. :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

hey, dont take this personally guys. this is just an oppinion ok? it is not impossible for every fighter to use some dirty tactics if they need to specially if the fight is going lopsided. am saying this based on what EM's countrymen had done when they faught Pacman. when felt that they are in trouble and they cant win the fight by doing it fairly. it has been proven by MAB and JMM. so dont tell me that its impossible for EM to do this. its all possible to all fighters. that is if you realy know how it is. i said it before and i'll say it again. these are just possiblities so dont take it personally. now you may say your own oppinion but dont start smack taklking like some did. i dont start, i just bounce back. :)

agapito sanchez is dirty. or could be that trinidad also is dirty for using those elbows or even hopkins for holding and hitting. but i don't think erik morales is a dirty fighter. i like him as a fighter because he really comes to the ring ready to fight, making sure that the fans get what they truly deserve. i can even call mr morales as a very gentleman in the ring (if its ok and if there's a term for that in boxing). this fight between pacman and morales is a classic fight between two warriors of equal caliber that's why the title "COMING WITH EVERYTHING" is so appropriate for this fight. let's just wait for this fight and reserve your opinions later, ok? im a pac fan and i like him to win, but if it doesn't happen, i'll just accept it and i'll say ok.. this is just another loss, pac is still young and could still win a belt and becomes a champion. peace to all the boxing fans out here.

agapito sanchez is dirty. or could be that trinidad also is dirty for using those elbows or even hopkins for holding and hitting. but i don't think erik morales is a dirty fighter. i like him as a fighter because he really comes to the ring ready to fight, making sure that the fans get what they truly deserve. i can even call mr morales as a very gentleman in the ring (if its ok and if there's a term for that in boxing). this fight between pacman and morales is a classic fight between two warriors of equal caliber that's why the title "COMING WITH EVERYTHING" is so appropriate for this fight. let's just wait for this fight and reserve your opinions later, ok? im a pac fan and i like him to win, but if it doesn't happen, i'll just accept it and i'll say ok.. this is just another loss, pac is still young and could still win a belt and becomes a champion. peace to all the boxing fans out here.

nobody is saying he's a dirty fighter. but for every fighter, it is not impossible to use some. its part of the sport. can you call MAB a dirty fighter? i dont think so but he sure uses some if he thinks he needs to like when he frustratedly used headbutt on Manny and when he threw a punch during the break and when he steps on Manny's foot in the first round thus making him benifited for a 10-8 roun. this is the same case with JMM. would you call JMM a dirty fighter? i dont think so. but JMM definitely used a lot of low blow against Manny. why do you think they'r doing this? this is one of the many tactics that a fighter can go for to distract his opponent and lose concentration particulaly their defenses. so dont think that when one says a fighter might use dirty tactics doesnt mean he always does. ASSUMING EM is obviously being pumeled by Manny in the early rounds and EM realized how tough his opponent is and that his style is not being effetive and there's still a long way to go. do you think its impossible for him to use some dirty tactics to regain composure? i strongly doubt it. :boxing:

EVOS LOOKY HERE. Even some of Pacs biggest fans are objective. You act as if Morales is just some tough tomato can mexican.
i think youll find he IS a tough tomato can mexican
http://www.boxingscene.com/s******/tomatocanlegend.jpg


THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN A CLASSIC AND WAY TOO MUCH TO QUOTE
..THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS GUYS :D :) ;)

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight :D :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

i think it would be foolish to say that both camps are unaware or ignorant of the matter. in a fight most especially in a war, you should not only have one plan, there are plans B or C. otherwise you'll end up questioning "Where did i go wrong?". definitely, both camps have scouted and did research on most if not all possible occurrences. In this fight, it would only matter on whose camp worked on their foe's weaknesses and the boxer whose condition proves more and whose heart hungers more.

i think youll find he IS a tough tomato can mexican
http://www.boxingscene.com/s******/tomatocanlegend.jpg


THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN A CLASSIC AND WAY TOO MUCH TO QUOTE
..THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS GUYS

LOL! man that's funny! thanks to funny guys like you. you give life to this site. LOL! :D

when will you ever learn not to try PUTTING WORDS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTH? where did you get the thought of me think Morales is some tough tomato can Mexican? if you read my other posts in other threads, you'd see how great respect i have for Morales. but the way you talk, i doubt it. you guys are so sensitive on this. its just one post. an oppinion on what EM MIGHT do and who i think is gonna win. just like as anybody in this site would do. doing predictions and everythng. if that is his oppinion, no big deal. and am also being REALISTIC when i said "no doubt that Manny will win (based on styles)." dont you think this is the obvious reason why majority of the experts and fans can see Manny winning this fight? isnt it obvious that out of many Morales fans in this site, only few has the balls to bet on him? i mean cmon, what am saying is my oppinion is not so different to theirs. how can that be NOT BEING REALISTIC? the only difference in my posted oppinion is that i consider outside factors that may disappoint many spectators as what happened in Pac-JMM fight. AGAIN, tell me if its impoissible.

Key words NO DOUBT. That ain't realistic. Simple as that. But no beefs man, bygons be bygons :boxing:

EM may not box ...... we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman ..... i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO?

Hey, they're your words not mine. Seems you don't know what you say from one post to the next.

Your words do, in fact, suggest that Cortez is incompetent. How else could he make those "bad calls" after reffing so many Championship fights?

Also, it was you who asked "will they allow him (Pac) to win w/o a KO?". That's pretty obvious you think that Pac might not be ALLOWED to win. You said it, not me.

And, if you think I "reacted like **** by posting ****", that's OK. At least I have a coherent thought from time to time and don't contradict myself with every second post. Also, I figure a truly "****" post is one that doesn't make sense ... like your response to my post.

LOL! man that's funny! thanks to funny guys like you. you give life to this site. LOL! :D
well thats at least 2 peeps that have appreciated it..
me being one of those :D

Key words NO DOUBT. That ain't realistic. Simple as that. But no beefs man, bygons be bygons :boxing:

no problem bro. as long as things wont be taken personally, everything's gonna be fine. but regarding the NO DOUBT, i just honestly think IMO, its gonna be Pacman based on style NO DOUBT. its realistic enough for me (IMO). i've seen enough of EM's fights and i'd rather think that JMM has the greater threat for Manny than EM. though we can say EM and MAB are different, i can tell that they have a lot of similarities when throwing their combinations. but MAB IMO has the better deffense than EM. but i am not disregarding the fact that anything can happen in a fight between Pac and EM. even an easy opponent can win a KO with Pacman if we're taking that principle. but then again, those were just my oppinions. no big deal. :)

Hey, they're your words not mine. Seems you don't know what you say from one post to the next.

Your words do, in fact, suggest that Cortez is incompetent. How else could he make those "bad calls" after reffing so many Championship fights?

Also, it was you who asked "will they allow him (Pac) to win w/o a KO?". That's pretty obvious you think that Pac might not be ALLOWED to win. You said it, not me.

And, if you think I "reacted like **** by posting ****", that's OK. At least I have a coherent thought from time to time and don't contradict myself with every second post. Also, I figure a truly "****" post is one that doesn't make sense ... like your response to my post.
sorry man but i thought i have carefully explained everything about that same predicament of yours. i dont think i can explain it even further to people of such level of intellect like you have. otherwise we'll be going in circles about this matter. anyway, thanks for sharing your observation regarding my post.

funny. many had reacted but none can explain their side how its not possible that EM's capable of using some dirty tactics. maybe you all realized that its part of the sport and every fighter is capable of using it specially if the situation calls for it. MAB did some. does that mean MAB has become a legend coz he fight dirty? JMM did it. does it mean he holds two titles coz he plays dirty? do they always do it? i guess not. but one thing is certain. they all did it to Pacquiao. and i dont see it impossible for Erik to do so if he needs to. its all part of the game. but it is also the job of the referee to watch these. so quit wining ok? specially if you cant realy defend your wining...

Or, some of us have been 'there' before, and know there's little point..maybe thats it?? Why , when others disagree with you, it's "whining", but youre not whining when you say that Erik may fighht dirty, and Pac may be robbed, etc.?? You cant have it both ways Evo. If youre gonna post that all of that is a possibility, then we can post in the opposite without it being 'whining'.

Or, some of us have been 'there' before, and know there's little point..maybe thats it?? Why , when others disagree with you, it's "whining", but youre not whining when you say that Erik may fighht dirty, and Pac may be robbed, etc.?? You cant have it both ways Evo. If youre gonna post that all of that is a possibility, then we can post in the opposite without it being 'whining'.
I hear the sound of .... Spank, Spank, Spank.

Or, some of us have been 'there' before, and know there's little point..maybe thats it?? Why , when others disagree with you, it's "whining", but youre not whining when you say that Erik may fighht dirty, and Pac may be robbed, etc.?? You cant have it both ways Evo. If youre gonna post that all of that is a possibility, then we can post in the opposite without it being 'whining'.
Maybe you wanna read your post again and tell me its not so. i could have taken your post otherwise if its expressed as an oppinion based on the topic at hand. but evidently, your post was more of a comment to the one who posts and not on the topic. that made people like you whining, dont you think?

I hear the sound of .... Spank, Spank, Spank.
yeah that's right. you're hearing an echo from the day i spanked you. LOL! :D

After hearing from both enough times, I think it's safe to say, both fighters believe something about the other that is not true and will most likely base most of their attacks on it.
Manny believes Morales is going to be slow and has slowed down after the last Barrera fight. Let's face it, we all know Morales was the heavier guy and really it wasn't his night. He certainly won't make the same mistake again by coming in over weight and has already talked about how he's improved his speed. This might be a shocker for Manny if Manny is heavily going with the fact that Morales is slow as he's talked about in interviews.
Morales believes Manny is 1 dimensional due to his Marquez fight. If he truely believes Manny is going to be only throwing the left hand on fight night, it's going to be a painful awakening because I can guarantee you, he's going to be coming out with all guns blazing. We will probably see more right hand use in this fight than Manny has ever shown in any of his fights. Yeah Manny mostly used his right jab to setup his left in his past fights though with all the new hooks and tricks Roach and Manny have been working on, his right hand may be as deadly as the left which could catch Morales completely off guard.
Boy, doesn't this all make for a great fight :D :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:
you've been saying all the unawareness of both fighters. i think both of them have a plan to settle this fight for good reaction.morales camp predicts that pacquiao will use his power left hook to destroy him,while pacquiao afraid that morales is being taller and heavier than him. let's faced it pacquiao is not a one dimensional fighter like they said,and morales is not slower as they thinks. both fighters had been attained for being champion of what weight class they have reached .give them a credit, this is one of a hell fight....

Maybe you wanna read your post again and tell me its not so. i could have taken your post otherwise if its expressed as an oppinion based on the topic at hand. but evidently, your post was more of a comment to the one who posts and not on the topic. that made people like you whining, dont you think?

What? Not one word of this post makes any sense. :confused: All I said was that if you can post all those possibilities, then why cant the rest of us post in the opposite, without it being called whining..thats it, nothing more or less than that Evo. Sorry I tried; you'd think I knew better by now! And here I thought it was a fair, reasonable question.

What? Not one word of this post makes any sense. :confused: All I said was that if you can post all those possibilities, then why cant the rest of us post in the opposite, without it being called whining..thats it, nothing more or less than that Evo. Sorry I tried; you'd think I knew better by now! And here I thought it was a fair, reasonable question.
oh, so it doesnt make sense to you? ok, let me try it one more time. but i'll make it simple for you this time.

nobody's saying you're stating unfair question. my point there is you made a comment against a poster and not on the issue. Therefore your post does not fit-in as far as the issue about "possibility" is concern. meaning if you want your post to look like not whining, make a comment on the topic and not on the poster because that word "possibility" is not in anyway connected on how a poster post his message. again, nobody is saying your question is unfair.

If one cant admit his/her mistake, there's always a way to pretend like dumb by beating around the bush. :rolleyes:

Can somebody close this thread?

oh, so it doesnt make sense to you? ok, let me try it one more time. but i'll make it simple for you this time.

nobody's saying you're stating unfair question. my point there is you made a comment against a poster and not on the issue. Therefore your post does not fit-in as far as the issue about "possibility" is concern. meaning if you want your post to look like not whining, make a comment on the topic and not on the poster because that word "possibility" is not in anyway connected on how a poster post his message. again, nobody is saying your question is unfair.

If one cant admit his/her mistake, there's always a way to pretend like dumb by beating around the bush. :rolleyes:

I'm not beating around anything Evo. I can and WILL post whatever the hell I please...on topic or off topic. If it bug's you, put me on ignore...very simple fix to that problem :rolleyes:

I'm not beating around anything Evo. I can and WILL post whatever the hell I please...on topic or off topic. If it bug's you, put me on ignore...very simple fix to that problem :rolleyes:
yeah. like this one that you just posted and disregard the reason why you were whining. nobody's keeping you from doing that. am just saying that this is your style when you knew you could no longer defend your reason based on the original topic. nice playing around again. anyway, it'll give you more points. :D

some things i can guarantee is EM may not box but would definitely be using dirty tactics (like MAB and JMM did) and will intintly watching more on the best timing for his uppercut. but Pac is gonna use his speed to land his gloves first before EM could make his move. we could also be seeing bad calls from Cortez against Pacman or try to give EM more favor. i wouldnt be surprised if it happens. specially at MGM. i have no doubt that Pac could win this fight but the bigger problem here is will they allow him to win w/o a KO? :boxing:
when has moralles been dirty, and when were barrera and marquez dirty. This is pointless propaganda, nothing makes morales a favorite over pacqiao infront of the judges at MGM.

when has moralles been dirty, and when were barrera and marquez dirty. This is pointless propaganda, nothing makes morales a favorite over pacqiao infront of the judges at MGM.
oh i can see you havent seen Barrera's fight against Manny when he steped on his right foot and Manny was called a KD, MAB was KD in the 6th round and he acted like it was a slip by telling it to the referee, he was also warned for using an intentional headbutt, and had a point deducted from him for hitting Manny during the break.

while Marquez was called only 3x for low blows but in the video you could see that he unleashed atleast 6 lowblows excluding an elbow.

if these doesnt seem dirty tactics to you, it'll be no problem with me. all am sayin' is any fighter could do this like what MAB and JMM did when they were in trouble. so, its still yet to see for Morales. what would Morales do when he see himself being out hustled?...

yeah. like this one that you just posted and disregard the reason why you were whining. nobody's keeping you from doing that. am just saying that this is your style when you knew you could no longer defend your reason based on the original topic. nice playing around again. anyway, it'll give you more points. :D

defend my reason? What are you talking about? All I said was that if you could post all those possibilities and it not be whining, then others could post a different opinion and it also not be whining. Is there some dictionary that translates your meaning and/or words? Geeze...a person really could use one!

defend my reason? What are you talking about? All I said was that if you could post all those possibilities and it not be whining, then others could post a different opinion and it also not be whining. Is there some dictionary that translates your meaning and/or words? Geeze...a person really could use one!
wow! you just forgot the root of all this huh? its funny you suddenly got memory deficiency. ok fine, you win whatever you say. :rolleyes: