View Full Version : how to know if you are speaking to a true boxing fan
+= El Jefe=+ 03-09-2005, 02:52 AM i found this in the net i thinks its pretty interesting;
"You know you are talking to a fraudulent boxing fan when...
1. They ask who you think would've won a fight between Sugar Ray
Leonard and
Bruce Lee.
- Real boxing fans don't give a rat's rectum about a match between
Sugar Ray
Leonard and Bruce Lee.
- And win what? A boxing match? A Winner-Take-All Death Match?
2. They tell you they would hate to meet Muhammad Ali in a dark alley.
-True boxing fans don't think of Ali this way at all. He was the
ultimate
free-style artist in the ring. His mystique wasn't about
intimidation.
3. They are always telling you about awesome right hooks thrown by
right-handed fighters.
- Just nod and smile. Don't bother correcting them. I've done it
before and
it just serves to crush the male spirit. I have seen the reddened
facial
expression of silent and mutual acknowledgment of exposure and it is
not
pretty. It is as if they are exposed as a sissy... off in the distance,
a dog
always barks.
4. They describe how they just love boxing because they enjoy seeing
two men
get in the ring and "beat the hell out of each other."
- Again, nod and smile. Resist the urge to explain the artistry and
high-level strategy required of all world-class boxers. We enjoy a good
brawl, but it goes far beyond the sentiments expressed.
5. They say that they would "get in the ring with Tyson (or insert
alternate
bad man) for $10 million."
- These pizza eating sports lovers would, in all reality, wet their
trunks,
run from the ring before pre-fight instructions, be suspended by the
state
boxing commission and have their purse withheld for cowardice and
breech of
contract. "
justin04 03-09-2005, 02:58 AM I don't care that i'm exposing my lack of boxing knowledge here, but i don't get the one about the right hook...
+= El Jefe=+ 03-09-2005, 03:00 AM I don't care that i'm exposing my lack of boxing knowledge here, but i don't get the one about the right hook... is a right handed punch never called a hook, or something like that?
if you are a right handed boxer
your hook is left and the other way around for
lefth handed boxers
justin04 03-09-2005, 03:02 AM ooooooh ok - thx man, now i guess i'm a real boxing fan, since that was the only one of those that got me.
Solo322 03-09-2005, 03:07 AM ooooooh ok - thx man, now i guess i'm a real boxing fan, since that was the only one of those that got me.
this is actually one of the big issues with the fight night video games, because the straight right is way underpowered while there is some fictional right hook that is supposedly a powerpunch. If someone says right hook i think they're probably talking about a wild, roundhouse over the top punch. Definitely not as strong or effective as the straight though. I think the shot exists though.
puppy_dogg 03-09-2005, 03:15 AM thats crazy, a right hook from an orthodox stance IS a real punch
i would take a punch from tyson for 10mil why the **** not.
czars_salad 03-09-2005, 03:45 AM if you are a right handed boxer
your hook is left and the other way around for
lefth handed boxers
yes, i've seen countless combinations that uses with a left hook (for orthodox boxers) usually like this: right uppercut, left hook, right straight; and in reverse for lefties
as far as i know hook punches are used to set up the power punch (from the favored hand)
+= El Jefe=+ 03-09-2005, 04:11 AM thats crazy, a right hook from an orthodox stance IS a real punch
usually hooks follow or are followed
by the power hand
thats why for a right handed hitter
a left hook is more usual
czars_salad 03-09-2005, 04:14 AM trinidad is probably the best in using the left hook
+= El Jefe=+ 03-09-2005, 04:37 AM i would take a punch from tyson for 10mil why the **** not.
yeah but he could eat your children
lol god that never gets old.
Tyson is nuts
czars_salad 03-09-2005, 04:51 AM yeah but he could eat your children
lol god that never gets old.
Tyson is nuts
he could eat your children, and will f---k your wife, he is really nuts
kadyo 03-09-2005, 04:52 AM ya right who do you think would've won a fight between Sugar Ray
Leonard and Bruce Lee??? :D
masterdirector 03-09-2005, 05:17 AM Real boxing fans stay home on saturday night to watch Julio Diaz vs. Castillo, even if they dislike both guys.
Real boxing fans check the boxing news sites daily.
Real boxing fans will quit their jobs if they are scheduled to work on March 19th at 9 pm.
Real boxing fans hate John Ruiz
There are too many boxing fans though that love brawls way too much. I can't stand it when two ****ty fighters have a brawl and everyone sits there praising them afterwards like they're ****ing Ali and Fraizer or something.
Ie Gatti vs. Ward, Corrales vs. Castillo
There are misconceptions too about people who like skilled boxers. I often get accused of not liking knockouts and fighters with power, just because I like to see boxers with actual skill. Of course I like power. Of course I want my fighters to knock the **** out of their opponents, but I don't want them to lack skill when doing so.
Another thing, if my fighter fights some other guy that I don't like or care about, I am not happy for that guy if he beats my fighter, I'm ****ing pissed. I want my fighter to get the rematch and destroy him. **** that being happy for them crap.
Also, if my fighter goes against another good opponent in a superfight type scenario, I still want my fighter to knock his opponent out early. Take Pac vs. JMM. I would've been glad as hell if that fight had been ended, as it should have been, in the first round. I wouldn't have felt robbed of a potiential war. I would've simply been glad that my guy beat the **** out of his opponent.
I remember people being gay and complaining after they ordered the Tyson vs. McNeeley PPV that Tyson KO'd McNeeley in the first round. What the **** did they expect? Seriously, who the hell would've wanted to see Tyson take McNeeley into the later rounds?
But people felt ripped off because they got only one round. I think they would've felt a hell of a lot more ripped off if Tyson had taken that bum decision.
yes, i've seen countless combinations that uses with a left hook (for orthodox boxers) usually like this: right uppercut, left hook, right straight; and in reverse for lefties
as far as i know hook punches are used to set up the power punch (from the favored hand)
...once again great avater and sig!!!
urdaddyinAZ 03-09-2005, 09:16 AM If your a right handed fighter, a power punch with your left hand is a "hook" and a power punch with your right hand is a "cross".
Right handed = left hooks and right crosses
Left Handed = right hooks and left crosses
Stickman 03-09-2005, 09:20 AM ...once again great avater and sig!!!
I sort of wish I could see them myself, but just sort of. I had to turn that **** off, it got so annoying, and the last straw was my 7 year old daughter walking into my office and asking me; "Daddy, why is there a woman rubbing her boobies on your computer?"
By the way, whoever it was that was using that animated giff...thanks....... thanks alot.
jack_the_rippuh 03-09-2005, 09:21 AM I'm a real boxing fan, but I don't enjoy watching two scrubs go at it...
and no I'm not calling Castillo a scrub..
+= El Jefe=+ 03-09-2005, 09:23 AM I sort of wish I could see them myself, but just sort of. I had to turn that **** off, it got so annoying, and the last straw was my 7 year old daughter walking into my office and asking me; "Daddy, why is there a woman rubbing her boobies on your computer?"
By the way, whoever it was that was using that animated giff...thanks....... thanks alot.
LMAO dude you had to see.
i was at the college's computer lab
and some chick sat next to me while i was reading
a post by elviel(the girl rubbing her boobs)
she just gave me a look.
Marjoh 03-09-2005, 09:30 AM Anyone ever felt misplaced when people started talking about upcoming big hyped fight, but when you started talking about other upcoming fight and fighter, you'd see their reaction as though they have this giant question mark above their head?
masterdirector 03-09-2005, 10:19 AM I don't feel misplaced, I feel like the other person is misplaced.
Like I feel everyone except me is misplaced about this Castillo vs. Corrales fight. It is NOT a big fight. My God. It is about as significant as Golota vs. Brewster.
Most fights I care about, generally everyone on the boards would know about. Any fight I care about, 99.9% of people I know in my everyday life haven't heard of either fighter ie. Pac vs. Morales, Judah vs. Spinks, Hopkins' 20th defense against Eastman, etc.
jabsRstiff 03-09-2005, 10:31 AM Corrales-Castillo is not a "big" fight.....but it is a fantastic matchup.
There's a lot of questions going into the fight.....& the potential for some serious action is there.
You have boxing's hardest puncher attempting to beat the guy who may have the sport's best chin.
If you think there's "no skill" going on between Corrales & Castillo...it is YOU who doesn't know as much about boxing as you think.
These two are far too successful to have gotten by on just brute strength & balls alone.
There are things being done in there by both that separate them from the herd.
markosg19 03-09-2005, 10:34 AM or if they only know heavy, middle, light and featherweights and think that they are the only divisions in boxing.... Then you have to watch fights with them and explain that someome is a welterweight and end up going through all the divisions one by one
abdiel2k3 03-09-2005, 10:34 AM rightys can still throw right hooks
from the rear
so i dont know what yerrr talkin about "lennox voice after Vit fight"
jack_the_rippuh 03-09-2005, 10:38 AM Corrales-Castillo is not a "big" fight.....but it is a fantastic matchup.
There's a lot of questions going into the fight.....& the potential for some serious action is there.
You have boxing's hardest puncher attempting to beat the guy who may have the sport's best chin.
If you think there's "no skill" going on between Corrales & Castillo...it is YOU who doesn't know as much about boxing as you think.
These two are far too successful to have gotten by on just brute strength & balls alone.
There are things being done in there by both that separate them from the herd.
Total dictaster...You're disguting, Jabs..
jabsRstiff 03-09-2005, 01:23 PM You just figured out I was the one who changed your title ?
Mech. 03-09-2005, 02:31 PM Real boxing fans hate John Ruiz
lmfao.I am a tru boxing fan ;)
`STEELHEAD 03-09-2005, 02:54 PM this is actually one of the big issues with the fight night video games, because the straight right is way underpowered while there is some fictional right hook that is supposedly a powerpunch. If someone says right hook i think they're probably talking about a wild, roundhouse over the top punch. Definitely not as strong or effective as the straight though. I think the shot exists though.
i think it would be called a looping right.
`STEELHEAD 03-09-2005, 03:04 PM Corrales-Castillo is not a "big" fight.....but it is a fantastic matchup.
There's a lot of questions going into the fight.....& the potential for some serious action is there.
You have boxing's hardest puncher attempting to beat the guy who may have the sport's best chin.
If you think there's "no skill" going on between Corrales & Castillo...it is YOU who doesn't know as much about boxing as you think.
These two are far too successful to have gotten by on just brute strength & balls alone.
There are things being done in there by both that separate them from the herd.
wtfck do you mean porcupine head. its not a big fight but a fantastic matchup. man this could be a classic action fight. the "art of boxing" will be played out in this one.... chico watch out for headbutts!chico/goosen will be able to make adjustments and will prevail.
{BrownBomber} 03-09-2005, 03:13 PM I'm a real boxing fan, but I don't enjoy watching two scrubs go at it...
and no I'm not calling Castillo a scrub..
I dont know why he thinks Castillo or Corrales have no skills.He must be on another level than us cause he thinks the Marquez Pac fight should of ended in the first. Even though before the fight the rules say no 3 kd rule and after Marquez beat the count 3 times. I guess everyone has their own unbaised opinion about things but that is what makes this sport so great. That is what brings out the passion.
m00ks 03-09-2005, 03:20 PM thats crazy, a right hook from an orthodox stance IS a real punch
Yah I know lol on top of it you can square up and land it easier sacrificing a little balance. but yah teh punch exist lol rightuppercut YOUR EXPOSED :D
m00ks 03-09-2005, 03:21 PM i would take a punch from tyson for 10mil why the **** not.
What good is 10 million when your dead :confused:
yeah he would eat my children i mean 10mil is 10 mil
I wouldent be dead id be ko'd but not dead
PessimisticPug 03-09-2005, 03:28 PM when he tells you that Sonny Liston and Georege Foreman were only paper champions, flmao..........Rockin'
what i really hate is guys talking about boxing like " i m not a sissy im like bloodsports" , and they still think myke tyson is the heavyweight champion of the world.
evosbm 03-09-2005, 03:57 PM yeah he would eat my children i mean 10mil is 10 mil
I wouldent be dead id be ko'd but not dead
your children will be eaten? now that's more than boxing. but at least you have $10M for your hospital bills, medicine, and worse a lifetime theraphy. i wonder if $10M will be enough to revive you. honestly, i have no idea.. LOL! :D
elveiel 03-09-2005, 03:58 PM what i really hate is guys talking about boxing like " i m not a sissy im like bloodsports" , and they still think myke tyson is the heavyweight champion of the world.
I just hate the French!! :D
Nah he wouldent eat my kid.
But 10million **** I would die happy at least I would know my girl and son have 10mill.
BadMagick 03-09-2005, 04:04 PM Nah he wouldent eat my kid.
But 10million **** I would die happy at least I would know my girl and son have 10mill.
Ha, if that's how you want to look at it!
I still fail to see how an orthodox stance can't throw a right hook. I guess I just don't know much about boxing, or something.
haha I would Throw the first punch and hope i get caught by a jab and knocked on my ass I would roll around on the ground screaming like oscar when bhop dropped him and SCREAM OH MY GOD and not make the 10 count.
Prostitroop 03-09-2005, 04:25 PM Hey rightuppercut, your sig is kinda racist... Actually, it's deliberately racist. But I'm not judging. Cheers bro!
+= El Jefe=+ 03-09-2005, 04:37 PM Hey rightuppercut, your sig is kinda racist... Actually, it's deliberately racist. But I'm not judging. Cheers bro!
i call it nationalistic,
but does it offend you that much???
i would change it if it does.
+= El Jefe=+ 03-09-2005, 04:38 PM Yah I know lol on top of it you can square up and land it easier sacrificing a little balance. but yah teh punch exist lol rightuppercut YOUR EXPOSED :D
i didnt say it doesnt exists
i just say that a right hook is not a power punch.
for a right handed fighter :boxing:
jack_the_rippuh 03-09-2005, 07:32 PM You just figured out I was the one who changed your title ?
Yeah, I'm kind of late, but there's still no excuse.
czars_salad 03-09-2005, 07:41 PM ...once again great avater and sig!!!
thanks :D
czars_salad 03-09-2005, 07:48 PM Real boxing fans stay home on saturday night to watch Julio Diaz vs. Castillo, even if they dislike both guys.
Real boxing fans check the boxing news sites daily.
Real boxing fans will quit their jobs if they are scheduled to work on March 19th at 9 pm.
Real boxing fans hate John Ruiz
There are too many boxing fans though that love brawls way too much. I can't stand it when two ****ty fighters have a brawl and everyone sits there praising them afterwards like they're ****ing Ali and Fraizer or something.
Ie Gatti vs. Ward, Corrales vs. Castillo
this is way too much dude, it doesn't mean that "real boxing fans" do what you do.... there are people out there who expresses their love for the game in some other ways which are different from ours.
your standard is not a general standard, or is there any?
butatista 03-09-2005, 08:08 PM i presume a hook is called a hook because the shape of the arm, with the elbow at 90 degrees, coming in horizontal to the body resembles a hook. i dont see why such a shot with the right, used particularly when in close, shouldnt be called a hook. my trainer has always taught the use of left and right hooks.
czars_salad 03-10-2005, 12:05 AM how about the uppercut? we've been talking much about the hook, but i guess the best KO punch is the uppercut -- coz it's hit directly the chin
bonafuwa 03-10-2005, 01:59 AM How to know a phoney boxing fan? They have no clue Judah vs. Spinks took place, but they ask you when Tyson's next fight is.
You say: Kostya Tszyu is one of the best fighters in the world.
They say: Who?
PessimisticPug 03-10-2005, 02:13 AM the uppercut is a good shot because people dont see it coming. Those are the ones that drop you, the ones that you dont see coming........Rockin'
+= El Jefe=+ 03-10-2005, 09:10 AM the uppercut is a good shot because people dont see it coming. Those are the ones that drop you, the ones that you dont see coming........Rockin'
yeah yeah
god bless the uppercut :D
specially the right one
masterdirector 03-13-2005, 01:30 AM I dont know why he thinks Castillo or Corrales have no skills.He must be on another level than us cause he thinks the Marquez Pac fight should of ended in the first. Even though before the fight the rules say no 3 kd rule and after Marquez beat the count 3 times. I guess everyone has their own unbaised opinion about things but that is what makes this sport so great. That is what brings out the passion.
Okay watch that first round and count it yourself. Yes, I'm fully aware that the 3 KD rule was not in effect. I know it isn't some bull**** video game. But count that 3rd KD yourself. I had it 14 seconds for Marquez by the time he was up. If you say fully up its like 15-16, but I'll go as low as 14 seconds. And 90% of the time, if a fighter is down 3 times in the first round the ref would and probably should stop it. Not always because there are flash knockdowns but 3 flash knockdowns? I don't think so.
Oh and I'm not a real fan because I'm not clamoring to watch two guys who are clearly mediocre at best battle it out? Castillo just offers nothing besides a good chin. I'll give him that, good chin, okay fine. Mickey Ward had a good chin too but he ****ing sucked. LaMotta had a good chin. ****ing Reggie Strickland supposedly has a good chin. Good chin is important, no doubt, but that is all Castillo brings. Speed? Accuracy? Ring generalship? Technique? All no.
Castillo just offers nothing besides a good chin.
That is laughable at best.
So are you.
:bryce:
sane0t0 04-20-2005, 10:40 PM Here's an example of a right hook from the orthodox stance:
Hopkins last punch that connected against Trinidad in round 12. The one that dropped him to cause the TKO. Hopkins deliberately went wide with his left uppercut. To hide his right and countered with a right hook to drop Trinidad. Now that's a right hook.
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