would u put Lennox on the top 15 heavyweights of all time

i would if he does

He is already in the Top 15 heavyweights of all time.

If he beat Vitali he would be Top 10 material.

He is already in the Top 15 heavyweights of all time.

If he beat Vitali he would be Top 10 material.
who are the other 14?

I would put Lewis in the top 15 of all time if he came back and redeemed himself by fighting Byrd to take back the IBF Title, Ruiz For the WBA Title, and then Vitali for the WBC and unification.

I lost a lot of respect for him when he dumped the WBA and IBF titles. He still could have made the money fights w/Tyson and Grant between title defences.

would u put Lennox on the top 15 heavyweights of all time

i would if he does


Anyone who doesn't already have Lewis in the top 15 doesn't know anything about boxing.

Lewis is legit top 10 right now.

who are the other 14?

In any order:
Muhammed Ali
Joe Louis
Jack Dempsey
Jack Johnson
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier
Max Baer
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Sonny Liston
Jim Jeffries
Floyd Patterson
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney

*possible alternates include Primo Carnera, and Max Schmelling

In any order:
Muhammed Ali
Joe Louis
Jack Dempsey
Jack Johnson
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier
Max Baer
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Sonny Liston
Jim Jeffries
Floyd Patterson
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney

*possible alternates include Primo Carnera, and Max Schmelling
you don't like tyson, do you?

you don't like tyson, do you?

No I dont. He beat a top 15 heavyweight in Larry Holmes, and that is about it. He never overcame adversity in the ring, and folded when the pressure got to him.

Not to mention I do not like him as a person. He is an insult to boxing IMO.

I also feel that if you had to list the top 5, I would say
Ali, Louis, Foreman, Marciano, Dempsey would be the order I would pick.

Lennox is a master he should definetly be up there hes a gold medalist.

Lennox is a master he should definetly be up there hes a gold medalist.

Since when does a gold medal mean anything? :dunno:

http://www.oreolcon.com/klitschko/albums/corriesanders/Klitschko_Sanders_219.jpg

Since when does a gold medal mean anything? :dunno:

http://www.oreolcon.com/klitschko/albums/corriesanders/Klitschko_Sanders_219.jpg

Damn, that picture is bad....

Sanders fist detonated on Wlads chin. That punch would probably drop any heavy other than McCall.


Lennox is a definite top 15 heavy and most likely a top 10.

In any order:
Muhammed Ali
Joe Louis
Jack Dempsey
Jack Johnson
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier
Max Baer
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Sonny Liston
Jim Jeffries
Floyd Patterson
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney

*possible alternates include Primo Carnera, and Max Schmelling
no evander holyfield? plus charles was known more for his stay at light heavy. also ive heard that carnera was mob controlled garbage

plus charles was known more for his stay at light heavy.

I disagree.

He beat Joe louis to earn the World heavyweight title, and defended it five times, beating Jersey Joe Walcott, and Joey maxim in the process. His heavyweight contributions outweighted ones at lightheavy IMO.

As far as Carnera being mob garbage, well I would not count that possibility out. You could also say Liston was mob garbage to an extent, however it would be hard to not have him on a top 15 list.

holyfield was pretty good but not top 15
he shouldve retired after the 2nd lennox lewis fight
he's not even a "tough" opponent anymore and that ruins his image

Lennox is definately a top 15 right now
but if he can make a comeback and beat vitali

His legacy would be set NO QUESTION

Lennox is a master he should definetly be up there hes a gold medalist.

Isn't Wladimir Klichko a gold medalist as well?

Isn't Wladimir Klichko a gold medalist as well?


http://www.oreolcon.com/klitschko/albums/corriesanders/Klitschko_Sanders_219.jpg

Why is this topic being brought up again? Vitalis fans should be more concerned with one Mr Hasim Rahman on April 30th

Sanders fist detonated on Wlads chin. That punch would probably drop any heavy other than McCall.


Lennox is a definite top 15 heavy and most likely a top 10.

I agree with all of the above.

not only a gold metal but he had the titles and ran **** in heavyweight for quite a while.

IMO Lewis is somewhere between 15-20. Could have been top 10.

I've got him somewhere between 10-15. The general public might rate Lewis higher or lower based on a rematch with VK, but in reality his place is secure regardless of that outcome. If Lewis loses, the Lewis lovers will say he was too old. If he wins, then some will say Klit is a never was for losing to that old,fat guy. I wanted Lewis to do the rematch, but at this point, too much time has passed and Lewis is way out of shape. He and Klit should both just move on to bigger and better things.

My man Torino always wants to bring up the Byrd non fight, but that non-fight has no bearing on anything. It was a meaningless matchup. I love old school,belts,liniage as much as the next guy, but that ship sailed long ago.

No I dont. He beat a top 15 heavyweight in Larry Holmes, and that is about it. He never overcame adversity in the ring, and folded when the pressure got to him.

Not to mention I do not like him as a person. He is an insult to boxing IMO.

I also feel that if you had to list the top 5, I would say
Ali, Louis, Foreman, Marciano, Dempsey would be the order I would pick.
i agree with you on your top 5

with regards to tyson, he won over lameduck and/or oldies, while lossing to better skilled and/or young fighters.

for those of u who put lennox lewis at 10 who do u put above him and who do u put under him...

My man Torino always wants to bring up the Byrd non fight, but that non-fight has no bearing on anything. It was a meaningless matchup. I love old school,belts,liniage as much as the next guy, but that ship sailed long ago.Well, ......... You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. But to put things into perspective, the non fight meant nothing to you, and I know your not alone.

To me, in my opinion, It does make a difference, it has bearing, it wasn't meaningless, and that ship never left port. It's still there haunting Lewis's legacy. And I know I'm not alone in that opinion.

It means something to me when a champion dumps a Title. It takes something away from the term "champion". We mine as well just get rid of the "cham" and just call them "pion".

In any order:
Muhammed Ali
Joe Louis
Jack Dempsey
Jack Johnson
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier
Max Baer
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Sonny Liston
Jim Jeffries
Floyd Patterson
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney

*possible alternates include Primo Carnera, and Max Schmelling

REJECTED!!

if u put lewis above any of those guys that run posted yr a moron

REJECTED!!

care to attempt a list?

this should be great for a laugh.

if u put lewis above any of those guys that run posted yr a moron

Please go do some homework on boxing before you start putting people down over that.

That list was laughable plain and simple.

Gene Tunney
Sonny Liston
Jim Jeffries
Max Baer
Primo Carnera
Max Schmelling


ahead of Lennox Lewis, are you ****ing kidding me?

Lets just take a look at this shall we.

Times Champion:
Lennox Lewis=3
Gene Tunney=1
Sonny Liston=1
Jim Jefferies=1
Max Bear=1
Primo Carnera=1
Max Schellimg=1
Floyd Patterson=2

Max Schelling won his title on a low blow and would lose it in the rematch. Carnera was a bumbling fool who's fights were openly fixed by the mob!!. Sonny Liston held his belt for a whole 1 year, his biggest acomplishment was beating Floyd Patterson one of the biggest head cases boxing has every seen. Ezzard Charles is the greatest LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT of all time. Charles biggest acomplishment at heavy was beating up an acient Joe Louis saying he beat Louis is like saying Roy Jones beat Evander Holyfield 2 years ago it wouldn't mean a damn thing. Gene Tunney like Charles a great Light Heavyweight who's biggest acomplishment came beating up an againg Jack Dempsey

I cant believe you actually tried to put Jefferies on an all time great list. A man who avoided every black fighter on the planet and was chased all over the country and world by Jack Johnson.


Max Bear makes the list ahead of Lewis? hahaha come on guy. You know what Max Bear is most famouse for? For being the father of Max Bear jr aka Jethro Bodine on the Beverlly Hillbillies.


Number of Title defenses:
Lewis=16
Gene Tunney=2
Sonny Liston=1
Jim Jefferies=7
Max Bear=1
Primo Carnera=1
Max Schellimg=1
Floyd Patterson=6

Combined years as Champion:
Lewis=10
Gene Tunney=2
Sonny Liston=2
Jim Jefferies=5
Max Bear=2
Primo Carnera=1
Max Schellimg=2
Floyd Patterson=4


Listen, im sorry, but of your gonna sit there with a straight face and try and say guys like Jefferies, Bear, Schelling, Carnera, Patterson, Liston and Tunney are greater than Lennox Lewis then you just flat out need to stop watching boxing right now either that or get your head out of your ass and stop thinking just because someone fought in the black and white era that makes them great.

That list was laughable plain and simple.


I never said the 14 others in my list were better than Lewis.

You assumed that. And there is nothing wrong with my list; IMO

also, there was no order to it.

Lennox Deserves to be top10.

I never said the 14 others in my list were better than Lewis.

You assumed that. And there is nothing wrong with my list; IMO

also, there was no order to it.

fair enough.

However im sorry there is no excuse for putting guys like Max Bear and Primo Carnera on any all time great list and leaving Holyfield and Tyson out.

fair enough.

However im sorry there is no excuse for putting guys like Max Bear and Primo Carnera on any all time great list and leaving Holyfield and Tyson out.

OK. I will agree that I could see Holy on that list.

but IMO, Tyson was a paper champ. His only accomplishments:

beating a washed up Holmes, and a never was Berbick,

Losing to every class A fighter he faced.

OK. I will agree that I could see Holy on that list.

but IMO, Tyson was a paper champ. His only accomplishments:

beating a washed up Holmes, and a never was Berbick,

Losing to every class A fighter he faced.

Wrong. Tyson fought and beat every legit threat in his day. He cleaned out the entire division and became undisputed champion. Now he did fight in a weak era, but you have to give him credit for cleaning it out.

I dont count anything post prison Tyson. He was a shell of his former self by this time.

how dare u put lennox lewis above gene tuney

gene touney has more knockouts then lewis has pro fights and he has the same number of loses and draws

Wrong. Tyson fought and beat every legit threat in his day. He cleaned out the entire division and became undisputed champion. Now he did fight in a weak era, but you have to give him credit for cleaning it out.

I dont count anything post prison Tyson. He was a shell of his former self by this time.


Dident I just read that he ducked george? I thought it was on the front page.

how dare u put lennox lewis above gene tuney

gene touney has more knockouts then lewis has pro fights and he has the same number of loses and draws



Gene Tunney was a better light heavyweight than heavyweight. Like I told you jr his biggest acomplishment at heavy was beating an againd Dempsey.

Dident I just read that he ducked george? I thought it was on the front page.


George Foreman?

no