Just watched round 3 of Valuev vs. Levin (thanks to jpboxer3). IMHO I don't think Valuev is slow, to me he looked much faster than Vitaliy Klichko, although I think Klichko hits much harder. I know that everybody says that Valuev is going to suck against top 10 but who can tell for sure until he actually fights someone from top 10? What do you guys think?

Just watched round 3 of Valuev vs. Levin (thanks to jpboxer3). IMHO I don't think Valuev is slow, to me he looked much faster than Vitaliy Klichko, although I think Klichko hits much harder. I know that everybody says that Valuev is going to suck against top 10 but who can tell for sure until he actually fights someone from top 10? What do you guys think?


I think Jameel "Big Time" Mcline would knock him out in the first round. He is slow, uncoordinated, and ape looking. Those three tend to make you an "average" heavyweight. Mcline's odd punching style and strange sounds would give Valuev problems in the ring.

Vitali would straight up mug Valuev of any championship hopes as well.

i still haven't seen this guy fight yet?

i still haven't seen this guy fight yet?

The last round of his last fight is in downloads section. He mainly fights in Germany, I read he is becoming very popular over there.

I've seen his fight. He was slow but when he start throwing punches the only way to survive was to run away. I hardly see anybody who will go toe to toe with him. There should be somebody who is slick enought to avoid his punches and have enough power to KO him (Vitali for sure, maybe Golota if don't quit early, maybe Sanders). I think KO him early is one of the ways to win - he don't need to punch a lot so he can be able to posses the power and stamina to later rounds and then finish the job.

Valuev reminds me of the way a bear looks when it mauls its prey...it slowly swipes in the general direction of whatever it wants to kill and once in a while something connects.

Nah i dont think he is as bad as most people say he is.

Besides how skilled do you need to be at that size.

He should fight tyson that would be such a laugh.

Valuev reminds me of the way a bear looks when it mauls its prey...it slowly swipes in the general direction of whatever it wants to kill and once in a while something connects.
That a good description of him. The problem is that with each fight he throws more in target and connects more often - this means he is increasing his skills and become more dangerours. If there is a time to break his carrier then the sooner the better.

The other question, which option would be most interesting for you regarding undisputed HW champion: the most skillest and slappest (Byrd), most powerfull and unskillest (Valuev), most tricky and dirty (Ruiz), most robotic (VK), most mentaly unstable and unlucky (Golota)?

I've seen him fight a few times. Valuev reminds me of a Euro version of Goofi Whitaker, real big and strong, not that fast, but can turn out the lights if he lands flush.

I think he is a lot like a 300 pound Vassily Jeriov. (I know I didn't spell it right, I"m american).

He throws a huge volume of punches, and doesn't get tired because none of them are power punches.
He knows he doesn't have good boxing skills so by keeping the jab going he usually keeps people away from him. It has worked well so far but I don't see him being able to pull that on anyone with size or real boxing skills. I could see him beating John Ruiz.

I think he is a lot like a 300 pound Vassily Jeriov. (I know I didn't spell it right, I"m american).

He throws a huge volume of punches, and doesn't get tired because none of them are power punches.
He knows he doesn't have good boxing skills so by keeping the jab going he usually keeps people away from him. It has worked well so far but I don't see him being able to pull that on anyone with size or real boxing skills. I could see him beating John Ruiz.
Beating Ruiz would be the easest, he could just hung over him while one of the huggs. I bet Ruiz is not as tough to stand with Valuev's weight for more than 2 rounds - the sugar lewel would be gone much faster than Wlads.

I would like to see him go after Ruiz.

I think Jameel "Big Time" Mcline would knock him out in the first round. He is slow, uncoordinated, and ape looking. Those three tend to make you an "average" heavyweight. Mcline's odd punching style and strange sounds would give Valuev problems in the ring.

Vitali would straight up mug Valuev of any championship hopes as well.

How exactly does being "ape looking" make you an average heavyweight?

How exactly does being "ape looking" make you an average heavyweight?

It might be a measure of Ring intelligence:

when you are below normal intelligence as a human.

and since when is driving a Torino cool?

It might be a measure of Ring intelligence:

when you are below normal intelligence as a human.

and since when is driving a Torino cool?
A man in your avatar is not a very human looking guy but I bet he has enough inteligence to know how to put his knife into your ribbs.
The same may be with Valuev.

A man in your avatar is not a very human looking guy but I bet he has enough inteligence to know how to put his knife into your ribbs.
The same may be with Valuev.

anyone with the least amount of boxing skills could outbox michael myers.

and Myers is of normal intelligence.

he is just a "Catatonic Schizophrenic".

Right now Valuev is a sideshow and he will remain a sideshow until he fights a top 10 fighter.

However the rankings look at wins more than level of opposition, so being 40-0 is starting to put him on the radar of the sactioning bodies.

I am not going to say that he is the best boxer ever, but at 7'1 and 300+ pounds, he can box well enough to beat your C level fighters. He beat Levin, who is probably better than a C level and there are quite a few B level guys that he could hold his own against. It will take any fighter at least two rounds to figure out his style and get used to the size, but at the end of the day, byrd and Toney both win all 12 rounds.

Valuev is the only Russian who was included in 15 Wolrd Heavyweight Rating Boxers

Valuev is the only Russian who was included in 15 Wolrd Heavyweight Rating Boxers
I'm not surprised, most of Russian's HW is busy in Chechenya right now.

I'm not surprised, most of Russian's HW is busy in Chechenya right now.
How about American tough guys who are busy in Iraq? ;)

How about American tough guys who are busy in Iraq? ;)
You are wrong, there is a huge technology difference between Russian and American armies. American micro technology require that peaple who operate the tanks must be a small size. That in Iraq fight only small Americans and HW left-overs stay home. Look on the world rankings below middleweight, you can barely count 10 Americans in the first top #50 's(totaly summing).

I don't see anyone have enough power to KO Valuev except Vitali,Wladimir and Corrie Sanders.

even if they dun KO him, he aint that good. he's beat nobodys in 40 sumin fights. has to face top 10 gy

i still haven't seen this guy fight yet?

The Levin fight IN FULL can be found here:

http://www.profibox.hu/index.php?action=videok

Because of his size, I don't think people will be lining up to fight this guy. He looks very beatable, but I don't know who's going to volunteer fighting him right now because the risks outweigh the advantages.

When he gets ranked, though, a quick boxer ought to be able to easily win a unanimous decision if they can avoid getting caught/laid on by Valuev...