Klitschko-Rahman Not Off, Byrd-Klitshcko a Bust

By Rick Reeno

The proposed April 16th battle between Wladimir Klitshcko and IBF heavyweight champion Chris Byrd is officially off according to promoter Don King.

Don King, in a last ditch effort to save the fight, offered Chris Byrd $3.5 million dollars to seal the deal. Chris Byrd was still not sold and balked at the offer. Byrd is still unhappy with having to fight Klitschko in Germany and is disputing that he is responsible for covering a $250,000 fee to his co-promoter Fight Night. Chris Byrd is claiming that Don King is contracted to pay the $250K fee to Fight Night, King says that Byrd is responsible for the fee.

King is steamed over the proposed fight falling apart and said that Byrd will not earn anywhere near the $3.5 million dollar amount to fight any other heavyweight contender on United States soil.

The camp of Wladmir Klitshcko was also upset with the news and issued a comment regarding the situation. "Byrd is scared to fight Wladimir. Chris Byrd said Wladimir is shot fighter with a weak chin, but he is afraid to fight him."

The Klitschko camp said that despite rumors, the April 30th Madison Square Garden bout between WBC champion Vitali Klitschko and number 1 contender Hasim Rahman is not off. Don King held a meeting with Rahman's manager James Prince to work out the final details. Rahman has still not signed the contract for the fight because he is upset with his end of the money. King has bumped up Rahman's take to $2 million dollars and a percentage of the live take. King is hoping that he can get Rahman's signature by the end of this week and schedule a press conference officially announcing the fight.


Byrd turned down his biggest payday to date. He also showed that he has no balls after choosing not to defend against the man who he claimed he wanted to fight again after getting brutally beat first time around.

In other news Rahman threatens to pull out of the fight if he doesnt get more money. He is currently being offered more money than he was for the first Lewis fight, and still wants more.

Bunch of cowards.

Klitschko-Rahman Not Off, Byrd-Klitshcko a Bust

By Rick Reeno

The proposed April 16th battle between Wladimir Klitshcko and IBF heavyweight champion Chris Byrd is officially off according to promoter Don King.

Don King, in a last ditch effort to save the fight, offered Chris Byrd $3.5 million dollars to seal the deal. Chris Byrd was still not sold and balked at the offer. Byrd is still unhappy with having to fight Klitschko in Germany and is disputing that he is responsible for covering a $250,000 fee to his co-promoter Fight Night. Chris Byrd is claiming that Don King is contracted to pay the $250K fee to Fight Night, King says that Byrd is responsible for the fee.

King is steamed over the proposed fight falling apart and said that Byrd will not earn anywhere near the $3.5 million dollar amount to fight any other heavyweight contender on United States soil.

The camp of Wladmir Klitshcko was also upset with the news and issued a comment regarding the situation. "Byrd is scared to fight Wladimir. Chris Byrd said Wladimir is shot fighter with a weak chin, but he is afraid to fight him."

The Klitschko camp said that despite rumors, the April 30th Madison Square Garden bout between WBC champion Vitali Klitschko and number 1 contender Hasim Rahman is not off. Don King held a meeting with Rahman's manager James Prince to work out the final details. Rahman has still not signed the contract for the fight because he is upset with his end of the money. King has bumped up Rahman's take to $2 million dollars and a percentage of the live take. King is hoping that he can get Rahman's signature by the end of this week and schedule a press conference officially announcing the fight.


Byrd turned down his biggest payday to date. He also showed that he has no balls after choosing not to defend against the man who he claimed he wanted to fight again after getting brutally beat first time around.

In other news Rahman threatens to pull out of the fight if he doesnt get more money. He is currently being offered more money than he was for the first Lewis fight, and still wants more.

Bunch of cowards.



You hit the nail on the head, there man. All these fighters out there whining and calling out the Klitschkos, but when it comes time to fish or get out the boat, they find excuses not to fight.Im gonna head to the Byrd website and let them know their boy no balls.

I dont get it? Wlad didn't look to good in his last couple of fights. Byrd chances of avenging his loss are higher than ever, he is getting his biggest payday, and even has a rematch clause in the contract.

One word comes to my mind when I think of Byrd, Fear.

PS Whats Chris Byrds website?

You hit the nail on the head, there man. All these fighters out there whining and calling out the Klitschkos, but when it comes time to fish or get out the boat, they find excuses not to fight.Im gonna head to the Byrd website and let them know their boy no balls.

Goa idea!!!

Whats the adress???

I want too know what the byrd fans will say to excuse him???

yeah this is BS...everyone talks crap about the Klit's but no one gets into the ring to prove something,anyway (even if he's not ready) sam peter will jump on the VK fight and take rahmans position cuz he wants it bad and now...mm chris byrd...umm i always knew he was a ***** so that does suprise me..damn chris byrd and his predator looking hair,i hate when this crap is pulled in one of the main "man" sports,,,there no heart in the sport anymore besides gatti/hopkins and a couple more fighters

yeah this is BS...everyone talks crap about the Klit's but no one gets into the ring to prove something,anyway (even if he's not ready) sam peter will jump on the VK fight and take rahmans position cuz he wants it bad and now...mm chris byrd...umm i always knew he was a ***** so that does suprise me..damn chris byrd and his predator looking hair,i hate when this crap is pulled in one of the main "man" sports,,,there no heart in the sport anymore besides gatti/hopkins and a couple more fighters


Vitali is willing to fight the best fighters out there, except the best fighters out there arent willing to fight him.

yeah i know,i respect VK for that,he is willing to prove himself no matter how much crap he gets,he always goes out there a ko's his opponent

I am constantly amazed at how easily some of the posters on this site can call fighters *****es. A fighter of that calibure would slap any of you like you were *****es and even as if you were retarded. Give them atleast alittle respect.

Byrd not fighting klitschko I believe is a business decision. First of all he would have to fight in germany where unjust decisions involving foriegn fighters seems to be common place. Then don king wants him to pay, from what I read, the $250,000 fee to the promoters so he can fight. Since when and where is it written that a fighter should have to pay to fight on somebodyies fight card, thats ridiculous.

Im not saying that Byrd would beat Klitschko or the other way around. Im saying that Byrd is making the proper business decisions to hold on to his belt. I would bet that if the fight was to take place in vegas or newjersey that Byrd would be willing to throw with him. Besides, who is Klitschko to make demands. Byrd has the belt and can and will make the demands. That he is entitled to do..........Rockin'

I am constantly amazed at how easily some of the posters on this site can call fighters *****es. A fighter of that calibure would slap any of you like you were *****es and even as if you were retarded. Give them atleast alittle respect.

Byrd not fighting klitschko I believe is a business decision. First of all he would have to fight in germany where unjust decisions involving foriegn fighters seems to be common place. Then don king wants him to pay, from what I read, the $250,000 fee to the promoters so he can fight. Since when and where is it written that a fighter should have to pay to fight on somebodyies fight card, thats ridiculous.

Im not saying that Byrd would beat Klitschko or the other way around. Im saying that Byrd is making the proper business decisions to hold on to his belt. I would bet that if the fight was to take place in vegas or newjersey that Byrd would be willing to throw with him. Besides, who is Klitschko to make demands. Byrd has the belt and can and will make the demands. That he is entitled to do..........Rockin'


Excellent post Rockin. I totally agree with the final paragraph. It really comes down to planning one's career in boxing. After all, these guys are in it for the long-haul.

I am constantly amazed at how easily some of the posters on this site can call fighters *****es. A fighter of that calibure would slap any of you like you were *****es and even as if you were retarded. Give them atleast alittle respect.

Byrd not fighting klitschko I believe is a business decision. First of all he would have to fight in germany where unjust decisions involving foriegn fighters seems to be common place. Then don king wants him to pay, from what I read, the $250,000 fee to the promoters so he can fight. Since when and where is it written that a fighter should have to pay to fight on somebodyies fight card, thats ridiculous.

Im not saying that Byrd would beat Klitschko or the other way around. Im saying that Byrd is making the proper business decisions to hold on to his belt. I would bet that if the fight was to take place in vegas or newjersey that Byrd would be willing to throw with him. Besides, who is Klitschko to make demands. Byrd has the belt and can and will make the demands. That he is entitled to do..........Rockin'

Business decision? Do you need a catscan? He is being offered his biggest payday by far! He gets a chance at avenging his embrassing loss. Not to mention has a rematch in the contract! When Byrd fought the K-Bros in Germany 2 out 3 judges were from the states, and the other was one from a country other than Germany. How would he get an unjust decision when he has hometown judges? He is given the perfect fight on a silver platter and he turned it down. I guess he doesnt have the balls that he claims he does.

You mis interpreted and read a part wrong. Byrd doesn't have to pay the 250K to King, he has to pay it to Fightnight Round 2, for actually putting his sorry ass in the gamne. He want's King to pay that fee though, why should King pay for something that he has no control over?


Wladimir isn't making any demands, all he is is making the situation better by giving him the chance of avenging his terrible loss especially after looking bad in a couple of fights, and also agreed to give him a rematch clause. The fight wouldn't be very profitable in the states, and everyone knows this. The fight in Germany would be huge, and King and the Klitshcko's know this. It's business, and it's not like Byrd has to train in Germany.

Truth is Byrd is scared of Wladimir, and Rahman is scared of Vitali.

I don't blame Blame Bryd, He is the Champ, why should he have to go to Germany to fight WK??? It's a lose lose situation for him, if he wins it's because WK has no confidence or chin, and has lost 2 of his last 4 fights, and should have lost to touch of sleep. wlad should not be getting a shoot anyway, this is BS, Bryd should atleast be able to fight in his home. Before you all attack me keep in mind i am not nor have ever been a bryd fan, i just don't think u should treat a champ like this, Bryd fights the toughest fight out there, hasn't ducked anyone except Toney, who is the best in the Div.

I don't blame Blame Bryd, He is the Champ, why should he have to go to Germany to fight WK??? It's a lose lose situation for him, if he wins it's because WK has no confidence or chin, and has lost 2 of his last 4 fights, and should have lost to touch of sleep. wlad should not be getting a shoot anyway, this is BS, Bryd should atleast be able to fight in his home. Before you all attack me keep in mind i am not nor have ever been a bryd fan, i just don't think u should treat a champ like this, Bryd fights the toughest fight out there, hasn't ducked anyone except Toney, who is the best in the Div.

Loss loss situation? Are you a complete idiot? This is absolutely win win situation. Have you forgot that Byrd got his ass brutalized by that no chin no confidence loser?

How is this a loss loss situation please tell me?

Is it a loss loss situation because he has to fight in Germany, where the fight would gross huge amounts of money,

Is it a loss loss situation because he will have hometown judges from the states in Germany, just as he had them in the first Wladimir and Vitali fight?

Is it a loss loss situation because he gets the chance to avenge his brutal loss against the fighter who you call a no chin no confidence fighter (which makes it even worse because Byrd lost to that fighter)

Is it a loss loss situation because Byrd is getting his largest payday of his life of 3.5 million???

Is it a loss loss situation because Byrd gets a rematch in the contract?

Is it a loss loss situation because Byrd can train anywhere in the world it doesnt have to be Germany?


I dont get it where do you see a loss loss situation? The chance of getting his ass handed to him again? Well thats the risk every fighter has to take everytime they step into the ring. What is the loss loss situation?

how is not fighting when you are uncomfortable with the terms of the contract as well as the sight an unwise business decision. Byrd holds the belt. The longer he holds it the more money he makes. What if he went there and had the belt stolen or even lost a legitimate contest. Would Klitschko be so willing to come over to the states to let Byrd have another crack at the belt, I doubt it.

And read again what I said about Byrd paying the money. I did not state that he would pay it to King. Do you need a cat scan or possibly a 4th grade reading tutor.

Anyway, byrd has every right to call the shots. When Klitschko gets a belt he will be able to do the same. Until then he has nothing to say.........Rockin'

how is not fighting when you are uncomfortable with the terms of the contract as well as the sight an unwise business decision. Byrd holds the belt. The longer he holds it the more money he makes. What if he went there and had the belt stolen or even lost a legitimate contest. Would Klitschko be so willing to come over to the states to let Byrd have another crack at the belt, I doubt it.

And read again what I said about Byrd paying the money. I did not state that he would pay it to King. Do you need a cat scan or possibly a 4th grade reading tutor.

Anyway, byrd has every right to call the shots. When Klitschko gets a belt he will be able to do the same. Until then he has nothing to say.........Rockin'

It think you do need the catscan, because you clearly don't understand that Byrd GETS A REMATCH CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT.

What the hell do you mean have the belt stolen? He will have hometown judges.

Whats uncomfortable about the contract except for fighting in Germany where the fight would gross the most money?

He is much more comfortable fighting for 1 million against no bodies in Jefferson who Wladimir already destroyed. Although he is uncomfortable when it comes to avenging his biggest loss, getting his biggest payday in the pogress and a rematch in case he losses.

Please tell me whats soo uncomfortable about the contract? Byrd had no trouble or complaints fighting Vitali in Germany because he won thanks to lady luck, but than after he fought Wlad and got his ass beat he came up with tons of excuses about how he didn't like fighting in Germany. He didn't mind against Vitali, because he won, he did mind against Wlad because he lost, get the drift?

Loss loss situation? Are you a complete idiot? This is absolutely win win situation. Have you forgot that Byrd got his ass brutalized by that no chin no confidence loser?

How is this a loss loss situation please tell me?

Is it a loss loss situation because he has to fight in Germany, where the fight would gross huge amounts of money,

Is it a loss loss situation because he will have hometown judges from the states in Germany, just as he had them in the first Wladimir and Vitali fight?

Is it a loss loss situation because he gets the chance to avenge his brutal loss against the fighter who you call a no chin no confidence fighter (which makes it even worse because Byrd lost to that fighter)

Is it a loss loss situation because Byrd is getting his largest payday of his life of 3.5 million???

Is it a loss loss situation because Byrd gets a rematch in the contract?

Is it a loss loss situation because Byrd can train anywhere in the world it doesnt have to be Germany?


I dont get it where do you see a loss loss situation? The chance of getting his ass handed to him again? Well thats the risk every fighter has to take everytime they step into the ring. What is the loss loss situation?

Yeah he makes more money, but if he looses his belt it goes for nothing, Bryd has to go into Germany to fight the guy who last beat him, this can really work on him mentally, and like i said before if he wins, nobody cares simply because Wlad is a shot fighter. I just don't see how this fight can help Bryd's career. no i'm not an idiot, this is just my opinion.

In reality Byrd will fight TOS or Jefferson instead of Wlad, make $250,000 for the fight, get a record low PPV sales, and wish he had fought Wlad instead.

Yeah he makes more money, but if he looses his belt it goes for nothing, Bryd has to go into Germany to fight the guy who last beat him, this can really work on him mentally, and like i said before if he wins, nobody cares simply because Wlad is a shot fighter. I just don't see how this fight can help Bryd's career. no i'm not an idiot, this is just my opinion.


If he losses his belt? Thats the risk every great champion takes. Take Vitali for instance he is fighting probably the no.1 challenger in the world and is putting up his belt. He is a true champion he isn't afraid to vs the best, the best is afraid to vs him.

Byrd puts up his belt, and if he wins it counts as an avenge on his record. How many people you hear claiming Lewis avenged his defeat against a drug addict? No one cares, because he avenged it. It will be the same in Byrds case.

Realize the simple truth, Byrd has everything going for him. He has the biggest payday, hometown judges, rematch in the contract, and has a chance to avenge his loss. Ok he is fighting in Germany, but how much can that hurt when he has hometown judges? Not to mention he didn't have any complaints about Germany when he fought Vitali.

In reality Byrd will fight TOS or Jefferson instead of Wlad, make $250,000 for the fight, get a record low PPV sales, and wish he had fought Wlad instead.


lmao and he has to give that 250k TO FIGHT NIGHT CAUSE THAT WHAT HE OWES HAHAHAH HE MAKES NOTHING

this is the simple truth. That Byrd has the belt and will do what ever makes him comfortable. End of story with that.

If that makes him a ***** as you said, well thats just stupid. calling a heavyweight champion that, when in about 15 seconds he could make you his b***h.... Rockin'

It think you do need the catscan, because you clearly don't understand that Byrd GETS A REMATCH CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT.

What the hell do you mean have the belt stolen? He will have hometown judges.

Whats uncomfortable about the contract except for fighting in Germany where the fight would gross the most money?

He is much more comfortable fighting for 1 million against no bodies in Jefferson who Wladimir already destroyed. Although he is uncomfortable when it comes to avenging his biggest loss, getting his biggest payday in the pogress and a rematch in case he losses.

Please tell me whats soo uncomfortable about the contract? Byrd had no trouble or complaints fighting Vitali in Germany because he won thanks to lady luck, but than after he fought Wlad and got his ass beat he came up with tons of excuses about how he didn't like fighting in Germany. He didn't mind against Vitali, because he won, he did mind against Wlad because he lost, get the drift?

of course he didn't have any complaints, he was trying to get to where he is now Champ. Now that he is the champ he calls the shots, thats the way it should be.

If he losses his belt? Thats the risk every great champion takes. Take Vitali for instance he is fighting probably the no.1 challenger in the world and is putting up his belt. He is a true champion he isn't afraid to vs the best, the best is afraid to vs him.

Byrd puts up his belt, and if he wins it counts as an avenge on his record. How many people you hear claiming Lewis avenged his defeat against a drug addict? No one cares, because he avenged it. It will be the same in Byrds case.

Realize the simple truth, Byrd has everything going for him. He has the biggest payday, hometown judges, rematch in the contract, and has a chance to avenge his loss. Ok he is fighting in Germany, but how much can that hurt when he has hometown judges? Not to mention he didn't have any complaints about Germany when he fought Vitali.

you make great points, i can see Bryd going to germany to fight VK, just not WK. Wlad doesn't deserve a shot right now.

Can someone explain the fight night clause again?

I dont understand why this has anything to do with him actually

fighting. :confused:

where would byrd want to fight then? in front of his home town lmao?

you make great points, i can see Bryd going to germany to fight VK, just not WK. Wlad doesn't deserve a shot right now.

Exactly. Byrd is in for unification of the title.
:boxing:

Byrd sucks. :boxing:
Just had to say it. We have so little heavyweight action he has to fight Wlad now. And this "deserve" bull**** is just a new excuse to duck either of the Klitchkos. Wether Wlad deserve title shot is subjective because even though he did not do much lately he brutalized both Byrd and Barett.

i would like to see VK vs Ruiz and brewster vs bryd then the winners fight so we can have 1 champ. then Toney vs. Rahman for the #1 contender. could this ever happen?

of course he didn't have any complaints, he was trying to get to where he is now Champ. Now that he is the champ he calls the shots, thats the way it should be.

And they asked him what shots he wanted to call. Klitschko camp didn't do anything but make it better for Byrd, by giving a rematch in the contract. Don King asked Byrd what he wanted in order to make this fight happen. Byrd told King more money, so King boosted the amount from 2.5 to 3.5, by far his biggest pay day. After he did that Byrd straight out didn't want the fight.

Byrd didn't have any complaints against Vitali because he won, on the other hand against Wlad he had tons of excuses.

Lets get serious, If Lewis came back and offered Vitali a rematch but it had to take place in Englad with judges from the States, and a rematch in the contract, not to mention a nice money bonus, do you think he would turn it down?

If Rahman offered him 3.5 million to fight in South Africa and a rematch clause do you think he would turn it down?



Why are you constantly denying the simple truth that Byrd is scared of Wlad.

Can someone explain the fight night clause again?

I dont understand why this has anything to do with him actually

fighting. :confused:

Byrd owes Fightnight 250K for putting him in the game, and Byrd claims that King should pay that fee since he is his promoter. King claims that this has nothing to do with him and that it's strictly Byrds problem.

Basically what this is is another excuse not to fight Wlad.

Byrd sucks. :boxing:
Just had to say it. We have so little heavyweight action he has to fight Wlad now. And this "deserve" bull**** is just a new excuse to duck either of the Klitchkos. Wether Wlad deserve title shot is subjective because even though he did not do much lately he brutalized both Byrd and Barett.

well **** didn't Purity beat Wlad, so i guess he deserves a shot too.

Byrd owes Fightnight 250K for putting him in the game, and Byrd claims that King should pay that fee since he is his promoter. King claims that this has nothing to do with him and that it's strictly Byrds problem.

Basically what this is is another excuse not to fight Wlad.

Thank you.

I was completely unaware of this.
You dont find it strange however; this could somehow affect the final decision to fight one another?

Byrd has plenty of money and I dont see this being a financial hinderance on his willingness to fight.

Why should Bryd have to pay to be in the game. Shouldn't they be paying him to use his image?

well **** didn't Purity beat Wlad, so i guess he deserves a shot too.

Is Purity ranked anywhere? Wladimir is, he is no.6 in the IBF rankings. This isn't Byrds mandotory fight it's his free fight. He can't say Wlad isn't worthy when he already beat his ass the first time around. Not to mention the people ahead of Wladimir in the rankings all have fights coming up for instance
1. Vacant (Will belong to Barret but just came off a fight)
2. Rahman (Supposed to fight Vitali)
3. Whitaker (Supposed to fight Krasniqi)
4. Toney (Supposed to fight Ruiz)
5. Mc'Cline (Supposed to fight Calvin Brock)
6. Wladimir (Money fight!!!)

Why should Bryd have to pay to be in the game. Shouldn't they be paying him to use his image?

I would think the exact same thing. 250K to his CoPromoter for putting him in the game. The game itself already payed, he has to pay the other promoter who put the contracts together to get him in the game.

1. Vacant (Will belong to Barret but just came off a fight)
3. Whitaker (Supposed to fight Krasniqi)
5. Mc'Cline (Supposed to fight Calvin Brock)


That is sickening. Goofy back in the show, Monty python, and Big Bird as well.

There are 20 heavyweights that deserve those spots. Those three are no where near potential champions.

Is Purity ranked anywhere? Wladimir is, he is no.6 in the IBF rankings. This isn't Byrds mandotory fight it's his free fight. He can't say Wlad isn't worthy when he already beat his ass the first time around. Not to mention the people ahead of Wladimir in the rankings all have fights coming up for instance
1. Vacant (Will belong to Barret but just came off a fight)
2. Rahman (Supposed to fight Vitali)
3. Whitaker (Supposed to fight Krasniqi)
4. Toney (Supposed to fight Ruiz)
5. Mc'Cline (Supposed to fight Calvin Brock)
6. Wladimir (Money fight!!!)

where is brewster? thats who he needs to fight then, i just what to see the champs fighting each other. wouldn't you rather see that?

where is brewster? thats who he needs to fight then, i just what to see the champs fighting each other. wouldn't you rather see that?

Brewster is fighting Golota. Ruiz is fighting Toney, and Vitali is fighting Rahman.

Everyone is pretty much occupied, Byrds choices right now are, Wladimir and Jefferson. Im not sure about Barret because he got cut, if Im not mistaken a fighter who gets cut pretty bad has to take 3 months off for the wound to heal. Not to mention he fought only last month.

That leaves us with Wladimir or Jefferson. Which one would be a more logical choice? Jefferson who Wladimir demolished in the second round, and brings in no money whats so ever, or Wladimir who took down Byrd first time around and puts up the biggest paycheck.

If Byrd is *****ing out with a fight with Wlad and takes on Jefferson instead than I really hope after he challenges Vitali immediately, or else im gonna lose a tremendous amount of respect for him. I lost a great deal already, but this will be the icing on the cake.

Brewster is fighting Golota. Ruiz is fighting Toney, and Vitali is fighting Rahman.

Everyone is pretty much occupied, Byrds choices right now are, Wladimir and Jefferson. Im not sure about Barret because he got cut, if Im not mistaken a fighter who gets cut pretty bad has to take 3 months off for the wound to heal. Not to mention he fought only last month.

That leaves us with Wladimir or Jefferson. Which one would be a more logical choice? Jefferson who Wladimir demolished in the second round, and brings in no money whats so ever, or Wladimir who took down Byrd first time around and puts up the biggest paycheck.

If Byrd is *****ing out with a fight with Wlad and takes on Jefferson instead than I really hope after he challenges Vitali immediately, or else im gonna lose a tremendous amount of respect for him. I lost a great deal already, but this will be the icing on the cake.

well i guess looking at like that he should fight Wlad, maybe take a lil pay cut though and fight he in the states. but Wlad looks like the only option right now, and who the hell is jefferson?

well i guess looking at like that he should fight Wlad, maybe take a lil pay cut though and fight he in the states. but Wlad looks like the only option right now, and who the hell is jefferson?

Jefferson is the man who Byrd claims deserves more of a chance than Wlad, and who he is most likely to vs instead.

I understand if Byrd didn't vs Wlad, but fought one of the champs, or some other worthy challenger, but the truth of the matter Byrd doesn't want to fight Wlad because he sais he is unworthy, but goes on and wants to make fights against fighters who are even more unworthy.

Jefferson is the man who Byrd claims deserves more of a chance than Wlad, and who he is most likely to vs instead.

I understand if Byrd didn't vs Wlad, but fought one of the champs, or some other worthy challenger, but the truth of the matter Byrd doesn't want to fight Wlad because he sais he is unworthy, but goes on and wants to make fights against fighters who are even more unworthy.

I agree, i thought maybe there was someone else he could fight, but since all the other worthy champs and contenders are booked this looks like the best fight unless he can get Peter.

Byrd has fought both Klitschkos, Golota, Ibebabuchi, Tua etc. and is now a coward? He was the champ and being dictated the terms. He had every right to refuse. Byrd is an American champ, and Wlad is only a draw in Germany, as he´s embarassed himself the last 3 times he was on American television.

Byrd talks about how he wants big fights and challenges but when it comes to fighting Wlad he backs away.

Business decision? Do you need a catscan? He is being offered his biggest payday by far! He gets a chance at avenging his embrassing loss. Not to mention has a rematch in the contract! When Byrd fought the K-Bros in Germany 2 out 3 judges were from the states, and the other was one from a country other than Germany. How would he get an unjust decision when he has hometown judges? He is given the perfect fight on a silver platter and he turned it down. I guess he doesnt have the balls that he claims he does.

You mis interpreted and read a part wrong. Byrd doesn't have to pay the 250K to King, he has to pay it to Fightnight Round 2, for actually putting his sorry ass in the gamne. He want's King to pay that fee though, why should King pay for something that he has no control over?


Wladimir isn't making any demands, all he is is making the situation better by giving him the chance of avenging his terrible loss especially after looking bad in a couple of fights, and also agreed to give him a rematch clause. The fight wouldn't be very profitable in the states, and everyone knows this. The fight in Germany would be huge, and King and the Klitshcko's know this. It's business, and it's not like Byrd has to train in Germany.

Truth is Byrd is scared of Wladimir, and Rahman is scared of Vitali.
Great post!!!I support you 100%!!!

Im not saying that Byrd would beat Klitschko or the other way around. Im saying that Byrd is making the proper business decisions to hold on to his belt. I would bet that if the fight was to take place in vegas or newjersey that Byrd would be willing to throw with him. Besides, who is Klitschko to make demands. Byrd has the belt and can and will make the demands. That he is entitled to do..........Rockin'

Klitschko is still a huge draw in Germany, bigger than Byrd or Wladimir is in the US, and therefore, Germany is the best "financial" venue for the fight. The choice of Germany is more promotional and not just Klitschko's choice, Don King also recently agreed with Germany as the venue. The choice of Germany is the best financial "business decision"

IMO - a champion shouldn't care where the fight is. As a "champion," Byrd should look to avenge his loss against Wladimir under any circumstances. As a "champion," If Byrd is worried about a decision in Germany, he should try to knock Wlad out. Especially with Wlad's stamina, confidence, and chin being questionable as of late.
Looks more to me like Byrd's just not confident he can win.

Hence the term "paper champion"

Its time to send Crisp Tyrd back where he belongs.
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To enayze,
Would you also consider Jack Dempsey to be a *****. We all know who he wouldnt fight. And it was not even that he didnt like the contract or location. SO Dempsey must be a ***** as well?.........Rockin'

Gosh, so many fighters pulling out of fights these days because of not wanting enough money. Juan Manuel Marquez a while ago (I was so excited and I thought he had a great chance of beathing Pacman if the rematch went off), now Byrd and Rahman. It isn't like they were going to make chump change for those fights. What a paradigm shift ... where Zab is the one to take way short money for the chance to fight, versus these folks. /sigh

Zab is a hell of a fighter, but Spinks had something that Zab wanted. The belt. If Zab had the belt I am sure that he would have demanded more money for the fight.......Rockin'

where Zab is the one to take way short money for the chance to fight, versus these folks. /sigh

I would also like to add:

Judah recieved 1/12 of what Corey Spinks was paid for their 2nd fight. More than likely to assure that Spinks was going to take this fight. We can see now, that he should have ducked Judah. IMO he should have dropped to lightwelter, or used his boxing talent at light middle.

Byrd had to go through alot to get to where he is. Simple fact is, IMO, he knows if he fights Wlad then there is a good chance he'll lose his belt, and with not having a large fanbase (which is a large part of the reason it took him so long to get to where he is), if he does lose the general boxing public will most likely try to forget about him, because if his style, and he may very well return to obscurity. At least if he has the belt, like Rockin said, he can have at least some control over his situation. I don't think he's afraid of Wlad personally, or getting beaten up by him, but the probable difficulty in getting fights he will undoubtedly face without the belt.

That's a good point, hollister. I still with they would fight though. I'd be cheering for Byrd all the way. I like how someone of his size can hang in there with folks who are so much more physical advantages over him.

I don't blame Blame Bryd, He is the Champ, why should he have to go to Germany to fight WK??? It's a lose lose situation for him, if he wins it's because WK has no confidence or chin, and has lost 2 of his last 4 fights, and should have lost to touch of sleep. wlad should not be getting a shoot anyway, this is BS, Bryd should atleast be able to fight in his home. Before you all attack me keep in mind i am not nor have ever been a bryd fan, i just don't think u should treat a champ like this, Bryd fights the toughest fight out there, hasn't ducked anyone except Toney, who is the best in the Div.

It's really not about being champ, and having the final say where the fight should be held. Sure, in a perfect world it might be, but the simple fact of the matter is, it's a decision about money. In Germany, the fight between Vlad and Byrd would make much more moolah than it would in the US, and for Byrd to have his biggest payday ever, the fight must be held in Germany. Any title fight of his in the US would probably generate about half the revenue. He *****es about the money, but doesn't want to fight where the paydays are bigger. As for fair judges....why worry about the judges anyway? Byrd won't last 12 rounds against Klitchko again. He's several years older and slower. He's still slick, but he's no longer quite as quick, and I see him being KO'd in 9 or 10.

i would like to see VK vs Ruiz and brewster vs bryd then the winners fight so we can have 1 champ. then Toney vs. Rahman for the #1 contender. could this ever happen?
I think everybody agree that Ruiz, Byrd and especialy Brewster had a very poor performance in their defences and everyone from them had at least one or two gift decisions and very good luck.

So what is the point right now to chose undisputed HW champion form guys who are gifted to keep the belts?

"Klitschko camp didn't do anything but make it better for Byrd, by giving a rematch in the contract. Don King asked Byrd what he wanted in order to make this fight happen. Byrd told King more money, so King boosted the amount from 2.5 to 3.5, by far his biggest pay day. After he did that Byrd straight out didn't want the fight"

There is obvious that Byrd don't want to fight WK. He have too much to lose. It is obvious that he is simply afraid of fighting WK because he lost badly the first time. Even if WK is shot the bad beating is almost certain againg - this would stop his carrier pernamently. The remach is just one more nail to the coffin (probably the third ass whuppin in a row).

The much prospect way is to avoid WK and have much easer defence
(this is certain 2.5 M$) and possibly the unification fight (with a good luck this can bring additional ~ 4 M$). Even if he lose in unification fight then nobody will tell that he lost to shot and undeserving WK.

Byrd never gave the statement that he would fight WK in US with a lesser amount of money (2.5 M$) and without remach (the basic package he offer for other contenders). So anything Byrd tell about not fighting WK (not fighting in Germany, better money, rematch, fighting more deserving one, renting anty-poisoning mask from M. Jackson, bending one Klitchko's hand during the fight) - they are just empty excuses to avoid the fight - fight which probably end his carrier.

byrd and rock are both pretty pathetic.... as much crap as they talk, they're both balking over the biggest purses they can get right now... like they say, talk is cheap...

the way i see it is like this...

Don King was a big part of making Byrd what he is today. Byrd does have great boxing skills and he did fight his way to where he is, BUT there are other boxers just like him w/o a title because they never gave it over to Mr. Don King.

now we're at a point where Byrd is questioning DK's confidence in him. I think Byrd's confidence in DK is also shaky.

all this talk about corruption and the odds when fighting in Germany.. well I'll tell you this.. IF there is corruption in Germany, then there is ONE thing that will help you still succeed and avoid being ripped off... and that one things is DON KING ... IF and ONLY IF he still wants you around to use you up for his own gain.

Byrd hasn't convincingly won a fight recently... he has a choice ahead of him... risk loosing (probable) to someone and only getting 1 mil or so OR taking the most cash he can and realizing that DK might just be done using him up, in which case he'll be thrown away and have to rely on what he's already made.

I agree that he is a champ and that he should have power to call shots... but this is in a fake world with faries and magic potions. In the real world, you're only around as champ for as long as you're either well liked or as long as you can make someone else big money. and how does this scenario look for Byrd?

He needs to cash out, realize that the competition will only get harder, and take a rematch with WK to give it his all, while cashing out at the same time to live the rest of his life in comfort. At least then he can say he didn't leave things unfinished like Lenox Lewis did (opinional obviously)

To enayze,
Would you also consider Jack Dempsey to be a *****. We all know who he wouldnt fight. And it was not even that he didnt like the contract or location. SO Dempsey must be a ***** as well?.........Rockin'

No I would consider Dempsey racist.

Byrd is not taking the fight because he does not like the conditions. Dempsey wouldnt take the fight because he did not want to fight a negro. The fact is that they both hold the belt and they both dont want to fight somebody for certain reasons. So if dempsey is called racist instead of a ***** than I would call Byrd a business man instead of a *****.........Rockin'

Byrd is not taking the fight because he does not like the conditions. Dempsey wouldnt take the fight because he did not want to fight a negro. The fact is that they both hold the belt and they both dont want to fight somebody for certain reasons. So if dempsey is called racist instead of a ***** than I would call Byrd a business man instead of a *****.........Rockin'

What's the conditions that you think he doesnt like? Getting his ass brutally beat again?

What's the conditions that you think he doesnt like? Getting his ass brutally beat again?

The conditions that Byrd doesn't like are that he doesn't want to fight someone who has a very good chance of beating him and taking his belt away.

i think Byrdy is also hoping the Toney fight with ruiz will fall through and he can get Toney, or maybe Byrdy is gonna stall things until that after Toney wins the fight but gets robbed by the judges (agianst ruiz) because he has said in several interviews that he wants Toney. Byrdy needs to hold on to the IBF belt because without it he's screwed

I like the Klitschko's but.....


Can you not see that the only reason Wladmir wants Byrd is because Chris Byrd is one of the lightest hitting Heavyweights out there? Perfect for Wladimir.

It's just a case of low risk/extremely high reward for Wladmir. Personally I think the same situation happens as happened in the last fight.

But the bottom line is Wladimir Klitschko does not deserve a title shot at this point in time. There should be little argument in that.

Chris Byrd should not be considered a "*****" for not making a fight with someone who has no business fighting for a championship.

I like the Klitschko's but.....


Can you not see that the only reason Wladmir wants Byrd is because Chris Byrd is one of the lightest hitting Heavyweights out there? Perfect for Wladimir.

It's just a case of low risk/extremely high reward for Wladmir. Personally I think the same situation happens as happened in the last fight.

But the bottom line is Wladimir Klitschko does not deserve a title shot at this point in time. There should be little argument in that.

Chris Byrd should not be considered a "*****" for not making a fight with someone who has no business fighting for a championship.



Well said.

It was also nice to see Byrd say on the ESPN card last night he wants the winner of Toney vs Ruiz.

I think there's a good chance we could see that fight in the summer.

I think it is a wise move by BYrd.

Byrd isnt sure he can knock out Wladimir so if he feels he can win it will probably be by decision and its a huge risk to go to Germany where the risk of getting robbed is higher and where the exposure to that incident should it happen is minor.

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hey how the heck do i download i have over 50 posts

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hey how the heck do i download i have over 50 posts

I believe u must have over 100 not just 50.

You hit the nail on the head, there man. All these fighters out there whining and calling out the Klitschkos, but when it comes time to fish or get out the boat, they find excuses not to fight.Im gonna head to the Byrd website and let them know their boy no balls.
both wrong i aint buyin it.. who in their right mind would fight in germany ..they ALWAYS get gift decisions..and you know bryd always wins by decision..i dont like bryd but i heard he would of took the fight if it was in the us

I like the Klitschko's but.....


Can you not see that the only reason Wladmir wants Byrd is because Chris Byrd is one of the lightest hitting Heavyweights out there? Perfect for Wladimir.

It's just a case of low risk/extremely high reward for Wladmir. Personally I think the same situation happens as happened in the last fight.

But the bottom line is Wladimir Klitschko does not deserve a title shot at this point in time. There should be little argument in that.

Chris Byrd should not be considered a "*****" for not making a fight with someone who has no business fighting for a championship.

I love it when people hold Wladimir to such high standards while giving everyone else a pass.

I love it when people hold Wladimir to such high standards while giving everyone else a pass.


...Your exactly right. Wlad is held to such scrutiny and every time he blinks ten opinions are formed about his chin. I'm surprised that someone didn't say he was hurt last night by a Castillo punch. There must have been at least 3 or 4 that actually landed. "Man, Wlad sure didn't like that body punch".