Throughout Chris Byrd's IBF championship rein, I've respected his tremendous defense and tried to accept him as a champion.

He beat an elderly boxer in Evander Holyfield to claim the vacant IBF title. At this point in Holyfields career, he was a shell of his former self.

Then he fought a close fight with a questionable outcome against Fres Oquendo.

Followed that with a "draw" against Andrew Golota. (IMO - Golota won that fight and should be IBF champion right now).

And most recently fought Jamile McCline in another close fight with questionable outcome. (Byrd went down in the second round of this fight giving McCline extra points that IMO - Should have given McCline the win.)

Now with his refusal to avenge a loss against Wladimir Klitschko because he doesn't want to fight in Germany (Germany is the most economically viable location for the fight) I have lost all respect for this guy.

He had an opportunity to take a step toward acceptability by avenging a loss against a fighter that's recently had some question marks. This was a golden opportunity for both fighters.

IMO - Chris Byrd has been the recipient of good fortune, but doesn't have what it takes to be a champion and it's only a matter of time before he falls. I will be surprised if he survives his next fight.

What do you think?

McCline did not win the fight vs Byrd

why should byrd go to germany to fight klitschko, hes the champion. Why subject yourself to the home town decisions if you dont have to. Byrd holds the belt, klitschko wants it, so whose calling the shots. The byrd mans calling them and he is not going to germany. You tell 'em Chris, props.......Rockin'

Throughout Chris Byrd's IBF championship rein, I've respected his tremendous defense and tried to accept him as a champion.

He beat an elderly boxer in Evander Holyfield to claim the vacant IBF title. At this point in Holyfields career, he was a shell of his former self.

Then he fought a close fight with a questionable outcome against Fres Oquendo.

Followed that with a "draw" against Andrew Golota. (IMO - Golota won that fight and should be IBF champion right now).

And most recently fought Jamile McCline in another close fight with questionable outcome. (Byrd went down in the second round of this fight giving McCline extra points that IMO - Should have given McCline the win.)

Now with his refusal to avenge a loss against Wladimir Klitschko because he doesn't want to fight in Germany (Germany is the most economically viable location for the fight) I have lost all respect for this guy.

He had an opportunity to take a step toward acceptability by avenging a loss against a fighter that's recently had some question marks. This was a golden opportunity for both fighters.

IMO - Chris Byrd has been the recipient of good fortune, but doesn't have what it takes to be a champion and it's only a matter of time before he falls. I will be surprised if he survives his next fight.

What do you think?

I think your right, byrd is a skilled boxer, has a good chin
and is brave enough too fight the big guys even if aint one of them.

But he lost to golota and is now *****ing around and to chicken to rematch wlad.

You gotta understand, Chris Byrd is an incredibly undersized HW and the fact that he has a title belt is a mark of the mans perseverance, will power, and guts. While your right he has had some close fights in the past,(Oquendo-I felt he lost that fight by two points, Golota-I feel he won this fight by 2 points,and MCcline- which i also feel Byrd won by 2 points.)

Lets look at the weights of his last three fights.

Byrd 211.5 Oquendo 220

Byrd 210.5 Golota 237.5

Byrd 214 Mccline 270

Chris Byrd is always the smaller guy coming in and against Mccline well he was the incredibly smaller guy. This has to count for something, because no matter how skilled you are if the other guy is just to big, than that skill means very little. Plus Byrd has actual boxing talent, he knows how to fight, and he is very slick for a HW, I respect his skills and the fact that he is always the smaller man.

The main differences between him, Brewster and Ruiz, is that the man can fight and he actually boxes who makes for exciting fights. Ruiz just holds, holds, hits, repeat. Brewster just gets hit. Anybody who says Byrd does not make for exciting fights is a moron who hasn't seen his last three.

Chris Byrd is what he is, and thats an undersized, underpowered, incredibly talented fighter who is starting to get old, and will lose sooner rather than later.

why should byrd go to germany to fight klitschko, hes the champion. Why subject yourself to the home town decisions if you dont have to. Byrd holds the belt, klitschko wants it, so whose calling the shots. The byrd mans calling them and he is not going to germany. You tell 'em Chris, props.......Rockin'

I totally agree. Why should Chris go to Germany, which is notoriously biased aganist foriegn fighters and risk it, even if it is the most economically feasible.

Not all people think in dollar signs, and in addition the man is the champion, why should he bow to Wladimir and his demands who has looked unimpressive to say the least in is last 4 or 5 fights and IMO does not deserve a title shot.

True that he is undersized and skilled.

But you cant excuse a heavy for not fighting a big man like wlad, if he doesnt want to fight that kind of a bear he shouldnt be in hw.

Well okay wlad does not deserve a tittle shot, but the fact that its like 90% certain that he would beat byrd again and the fact that mcline and golota didnt deserve. Doesnt that mean that they should fight???

So who is Byrd going to fight now instead of Wlad? Barrett won't be ready in time. Will he fight two other Wlad victims, TOS or Jefferson? Its going to be interesting how they will try to pass off this crap as PPV. The suspense is killing me.

True that he is undersized and skilled.

But you cant excuse a heavy for not fighting a big man like wlad, if he doesnt want to fight that kind of a bear he shouldnt be in hw.

Well okay wlad does not deserve a tittle shot, but the fact that its like 90% certain that he would beat byrd again and the fact that mcline and golota didnt deserve. Doesnt that mean that they should fight???

Neither did Oquendo.

True that he is undersized and skilled.

But you cant excuse a heavy for not fighting a big man like wlad, if he doesnt want to fight that kind of a bear he shouldnt be in hw.

Well okay wlad does not deserve a tittle shot, but the fact that its like 90% certain that he would beat byrd again and the fact that mcline and golota didnt deserve. Doesnt that mean that they should fight???

Well, your correct, being undersized should not be an excuse, but Byrd hasn't made that an issue, and I don't think that has anything to do with him not wanting to fight Wlad. I don't think he wants to fight Wladimir for a number of reasons.

1)Wladimir destroyed his ass the first time around
2)Wlad demands the fight take place in Germany
3)Byrd feels that Wlad is an unworthy challenger and I agree with him.
4)Byrd is the champion and should be able to dictate the terms of the fight.

I think that Byrd should either sign to fight Barrett or fight Wlad(the public pressure is too much for Chris to avoid), there is no one else out there that really deserves a shot other than Barrett.

If Byrd had good power, he would be the **** at heavweight

Golota definitly did not beat bryd. He was lucky to get the draw. Chris embarassed him and almost knocked him down, not to mention backed him up on more than one occasion.

If Golota had to back away from Chris Bryd who is pretty much the weakest puncher ever at heavyweight than how could you think he was dominating?

Golota definitly did not beat bryd. He was lucky to get the draw. Chris embarassed him and almost knocked him down, not to mention backed him up on more than one occasion.

If Golota had to back away from Chris Bryd who is pretty much the weakest puncher ever at heavyweight than how could you think he was dominating?


Yo Joe, are you the Joe boxer at boxingpredictions.net?

Golota definitly did not beat bryd. He was lucky to get the draw. Chris embarassed him and almost knocked him down, not to mention backed him up on more than one occasion.

If Golota had to back away from Chris Bryd who is pretty much the weakest puncher ever at heavyweight than how could you think he was dominating?

I am anything but a Golota fan, but how many times did Byrd's gloves touch the mat?

i say,

christbird :D

theres so many good europeans coming over

so many us heavyweights should just call it quits now

resistance is useless!!

Like who harry

Like who harry

like.. nobody from degenerate britain off course!!

(surprised?)

valuev and mischa and bidenko.. top o my head..

3)Byrd feels that Wlad is an unworthy challenger and I agree with him.
4)Byrd is the champion and should be able to dictate the terms of the fight.

I totally agree with these two reasons. And IMO, Chris is not scared of Wlad and can adjust to fighting overseas.

As for #3. Yes. there is no reason for Byrd to fight Wlad. He would like to fight Vitali for the WBC belt. That or he can make Ruiz look stupid and take the WBA.

Not not surprised at all but nice attempt at a cheap shot, i'd expect more from a man of your age!
Valuev might make waves but i very much doubt the top ten heavies have to start looking for hiding places just yet.
Why degenarate anyway?

i belive chrissybyrd is scared of going to europe for fear of seeing them scary new breed of euro fighters :D (boxers)

i don't personally enjoy Byrd fights, but after meeting the guy, and seeing just how small of a heavyweight he is, it's quite impressive his streak of wins, and i do give him respect for that.

Golota definitly did not beat bryd. He was lucky to get the draw. Chris embarassed him and almost knocked him down, not to mention backed him up on more than one occasion.

If Golota had to back away from Chris Bryd who is pretty much the weakest puncher ever at heavyweight than how could you think he was dominating?

Wow. I seems as though you and I watched the same fight. Hence the idea that Byrd keeps getting stronger every fight. He chased Oquendo around like a little *****, and I would like to see Byrd more agressive.

Not not surprised at all but nice attempt at a cheap shot, i'd expect more from a man of your age!
Valuev might make waves but i very much doubt the top ten heavies have to start looking for hiding places just yet.
Why degenarate anyway?

beer-fishandchips-additives-hostileforrigners-drugaddictedupperclass-obsessivebitternessoverlostempire-evilocultgowornmentrulerfamilies-aboutasimportantasitaly-laughingstockoftheworld :D

No your thinking of the rest of Europe :)

no.. britain is a little special.. :)

still, were in the same continent, i cant deny that.. ;)

Well, your correct, being undersized should not be an excuse, but Byrd hasn't made that an issue, and I don't think that has anything to do with him not wanting to fight Wlad. I don't think he wants to fight Wladimir for a number of reasons.

1)Wladimir destroyed his ass the first time around
2)Wlad demands the fight take place in Germany
3)Byrd feels that Wlad is an unworthy challenger and I agree with him.
4)Byrd is the champion and should be able to dictate the terms of the fight.

I think that Byrd should either sign to fight Barrett or fight Wlad(the public pressure is too much for Chris to avoid), there is no one else out there that really deserves a shot other than Barrett.

if he kicked his ass the last time, how can he not be a worthy challenger now????


The best scenario would be VK-byrd because they are both champions, they are the best in the world and because they got unsettles buiness.

Wlad should fight rahman, than the winner will deserve a shot at the tittle.

beer-fishandchips-additives-hostileforrigners-drugaddictedupperclass-obsessivebitternessoverlostempire-evilocultgowornmentrulerfamilies-aboutasimportantasitaly-laughingstockoftheworld :D


Thank goodness i'm not upperclass, am far too young to give a **** about 'the empire', i'd agree about the government but you'll find it's like that in every single country, i very rarely drink alcohol but i do like fish and chips now and then!!! oh and everyones got to have a laugh sometimes :cool:

On the whole i'd say that was a very poor degenerative generalisation :D

Yo Joe, are you the Joe boxer at boxingpredictions.net?

No I'm not. But I am at sofaboxer.com, which is pretty cool but it hasn't really been working right.

I will check that **** out though.

Ok I just did, and it looks like you know your ****. Keep hanging out on this site, and we have a vbookie too if you want to bet fantasy points here.

Hey did you guess the outcome of Howard Eastman vs. Bernard Hopkins right?

Thank goodness i'm not upperclass, am far too young to give a **** about 'the empire', i'd agree about the government but you'll find it's like that in every single country, i very rarely drink alcohol but i do like fish and chips now and then!!! oh and everyones got to have a laugh sometimes :cool:

On the whole i'd say that was a very poor degenerative generalisation :D

oh! youre not upper class?

if he kicked his ass the last time, how can he not be a worthy challenger now????


The best scenario would be VK-byrd because they are both champions, they are the best in the world and because they got unsettles buiness.

Wlad should fight rahman, than the winner will deserve a shot at the tittle.

You have got to be kidding, If you think Byrd is interested in the WBA belt. That would be ridiculous.

You have got to be kidding, If you think Byrd is interested in the WBA belt. That would be ridiculous.

hey :)

did you see the article in the lounge, about this guy whod been walking around with a knife in his head.

do you think itd changed his behaviour? take a look!

You have got to be kidding, If you think Byrd is interested in the WBA belt. That would be ridiculous.

What are you talking about???

1 ruiz and not vitaly has hte wba belt.

2 byrd wont beat VK so he wouldnt have got it if vk did have it.

3yes i think every champions including byrd wants too unify.

What are you talking about???
1 ruiz and not vitaly has hte wba belt.


Yeah. Your right. My bad.

why would you think i'm upperclass 'Prince'

Byrd is a belt holder. I don't consider him the champion, but he is a champion. Someone needs to come and unify.

why would you think i'm upperclass 'Prince'

oh, im not prince harry?!

now i was led to belive that every good britain was made to love his class - much like baldrick in blackadder. now if you have a problem with not beeing upperclass, if you think youre better that everybody else, thats your problem.

now things are getting outta hand here - back to boxing, yes i firmly belive the tide has turned, the time has certainly come for european (not british!!) heavyweights to rule and dominate the world.

and no dead horses you can spank in any ghetto anywhere can make any difference to that, my friend.. :)

oh, im not prince harry?!

now i was led to belive that every good britain was made to love his class - much like baldrick in blackadder. now if you have a problem with not beeing upperclass, if you think youre better that everybody else, thats your problem.

now things are getting outta hand here - back to boxing, yes i firmly belive the tide has turned, the time has certainly come for european (not british!!) heavyweights to rule and dominate the world.

and no dead horses you can spank in any ghetto anywhere can make any difference to that, my friend.. :)

I didn't think you was.

You've been led up the wrong path then, i certainly have no issues with the classes over here (that are everywhere), and i'm extremely confidant and proud of what i am and represent to the people that matter to me.

Onto boxing it would be nice to see more europeans doing well on the true world class stage but that's all they'll ever do for the near future, just do well, i very much doubt the tide has turned but it would be nice to see.

and i'm not your friend but i understand if your just trying to be polite, most princes are :p

Throughout Chris Byrd's IBF championship rein, I've respected his tremendous defense and tried to accept him as a champion.

He beat an elderly boxer in Evander Holyfield to claim the vacant IBF title. At this point in Holyfields career, he was a shell of his former self.

Then he fought a close fight with a questionable outcome against Fres Oquendo.

Followed that with a "draw" against Andrew Golota. (IMO - Golota won that fight and should be IBF champion right now).

And most recently fought Jamile McCline in another close fight with questionable outcome. (Byrd went down in the second round of this fight giving McCline extra points that IMO - Should have given McCline the win.)

Now with his refusal to avenge a loss against Wladimir Klitschko because he doesn't want to fight in Germany (Germany is the most economically viable location for the fight) I have lost all respect for this guy.

He had an opportunity to take a step toward acceptability by avenging a loss against a fighter that's recently had some question marks. This was a golden opportunity for both fighters.

IMO - Chris Byrd has been the recipient of good fortune, but doesn't have what it takes to be a champion and it's only a matter of time before he falls. I will be surprised if he survives his next fight.

What do you think?


....I think Byrd has less claim to his title than Ruiz has to his!!! Now that's kind of saying it all. I'm sure it's Byrd's wife that kept him from fighting Wlad. She damn near had a heart attack and **** her pants when Wlad nearly killed Byrd the first time.

....I think Byrd has less claim to his title than Ruiz has to his!!! Now that's kind of saying it all. I'm sure it's Byrd's wife that kept him from fighting Wlad. She damn near had a heart attack and **** her pants when Wlad nearly killed Byrd the first time.

Please don't hurt him Wlad.

http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=fights/Wladimir/36_Chris_Byrd&file=36_Chris_Byrd_photo_468t.jpg

Byrd is a belt holder. I don't consider him the champion, but he is a champion. Someone needs to come and unify.

I totally agree. Those Don King's Heavyweight Championship triple main events with the same old boxers (Byrd, Ruiz, Brewster etc.) fighting aren't too exciting anymore. I think Byrd is ok, but don't you find it annoying when he always sticks out his tongue and makes that face like "you didn't really hurt me" every time he gets hit?

Please don't hurt him Wlad.

http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=fights/Wladimir/36_Chris_Byrd&file=36_Chris_Byrd_photo_468t.jpg

:D HaHa. that was pretty funny. :)

haha! i dont know if its art, but i like it! :D

Byrd, as a champion should fight any up and coming fighters. As a champion he should fight the best and the one who deserves it more because subjetc of who deserves more is truly subjective.
So if he does not fight the best what the heavyweight devision has to offer than he does not meet the requierments of a champion, therefore he is not a champion or if you want to call it he is a paper champion. Oh, and btw Kostya Tszyu will fight HAtton in England and he does not even blink. He just goes where the money is. In byrd's case he was offered $3.5 mil, which is his career high to fight in Germany. Also if he says that Wlad is a shot fighter than why should not he avenge his loss to the "shot" fighter. Clearly he thinks otherwise. Therefore he is also a hypocrite which is also cements my statements that Byrd is a Paper Champ.
To be continued....

> Byrd, as a champion should fight any up and coming fighters. As a champion he should fight the best and the one who deserves it more because subjetc of who deserves more is truly subjective.

The fight with WK would probably end Byrd's carrier. The remach and possible third stright lost to nondeserving and shot WK will end his carrier pernamently and show that his other "wins" were just a gift decisions or a good luck.

Avoiding the fight with WK (whathever the reasons are) is just a bussines. He have 2.5 M$ for each fight and if he win the next one he will probably fight for unification title which would be worth at least 4 M$. Even he lose in unification then nobody will tell that he is finished because he lost to undesrving and shot Witali Klitchko. So he will be still in the bussines.