Did anyone else notice the very poor physical condition of Hatton? I know the fight is three months away, but that is the worst shape I have ever seen him in. Double chin and puffy face very clear.

Yea he looked bigger than Kostya. I didnt see the entire interview but he looked like he had something wedged in his ass- he was slumping in his chair. The commentar also saw that Hatton was out of shape.

more weight to hit zoo with

he looked extremely out of shape
and old too
zoo actually looked the younger fighter
but then again they siad thats not unusual for hatton
somethin hes been struggling to fix
gains to much weight in between fights
but no matter
tszyu is still gonna knock his ass out

Or is it just me. I saw him tonight on SHO and I think I'm seeing something hanging on his chin. They were interviewing Tszyu and Hatton regarding their June 4 battle.

EDIT: Oops! Sorry for starting a new thread. I might have missed it. :)

Yeah, Hatton and Tsyzu are both known for blowing up between fights, probably as high as 165-170.

Al Bernstein said "I guess they have buffets in England, too" or something like that.

Hatton is young though and has 13 weeks so I doubt this will affect the fight too much, but Hatton should be more serious in between fights to prolong his career.

Tszyu is 173 right now.

this is nothing new Hatton always blows up loads between fights, i don't think he should but it might help him mentally and to train harder knowing he's got to put the work in to get in shape

yeah, this is hatton all over, he looks in absolutely perfect condition on fight night, but a week or two later he's grown a few chins that dont disappear until his next fight

Has anyone got a link to this interview, I'm interested to see the much maligned flab :p

In spite of its general amusement factor it is common knowledge that hatton tends to take this sort of route inbetween fights...

As he gets a bit older I would hope or assume he takes the gatti mentality and cuts out a bit of the eating and partying...

He reminded me of a 300 pound gorilla. He was huge, Tszyu was in very good physical condition by what we saw. But Tszyu consistantly trains.

The screen shot of Hatton is in my gallery.

How do I find this, dude? Was it a shot from today?

He reminded me of a 300 pound gorilla. He was huge, Tszyu was in very good physical condition by what we saw. But Tszyu consistantly trains.


please don't say Gorilla becuase it reminds me of a chimp, which reminds me of what happened to that guy out here in California. If I never hear the phrase "bit off his testicles" again, I'll be just fine.


as far as Hatton goes, it looks like my man lost a few battles with the Pubs.

link to barryboy's pic:

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/showphoto.php/photo/6694/sort/1/cat/500/page/1

link to barryboy's pic:

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/showphoto.php/photo/6694/sort/1/cat/500/page/1


He looked worst than that last night.

Why does the silly blimp do it to himself all the time?

he look very tanned on that pic noramlly hes got very pale skin so maybe hes been on vaction for a few weeks and had a bit of fun
i doubt it will be a factor he always blows up between fight
as do zoo but not that much

last night i was thinking about that fight and every thing tell me that zoo will win but i got that little feeling that hatton is gonna do the job on the night i dunno y
and if i was gonna bet on it i would still prbly go for zoo but i dunno (sry for going of subject)

Why do Brit fighters always go for "all or nothing" bouts? I mean, if Hatton wanted to try stepping up, then there's easier opponents for him to try out against first... like a sherman tank.

If Hatton loses against Zoo (and would that really be so bad?) people will just call him a bum.

Have to be honest i agree with Johnny Nelson on this - you should "live the life" of an athlete because if you dont it will catch up with you sooner or later.

RH looks like he "ate all the pies" to me - then drunk all the beer.

I was impressed with Hatton, he showed some respect for Tszyu and yes he did have a double chin, I noticed that as well Rick.

What made me laugh is when he said 'I will prove that I am the best' something to that effect and Kostya looked up to someone with funny eyes and was making interesting involuntary gestures with his face, funny stuff.

Did anyone else notice the very poor physical condition of Hatton? I know the fight is three months away, but that is the worst shape I have ever seen him in. Double chin and puffy face very clear.


...My god I thought he was some spokesman for Hatton. What a fat ass!!! He also sounded like a guy heading to the gallows and really didn't answer the question he was asked.

He actually looks worse in the other pic but still :eek:

http://dpiercydesigns.com/boxing/hatton.jpg

well Hatton in any of his other fights has never given us reason to believe he would come into the fight overweight...the fight is months away and fighters don't walk around at their weigh-in weight...

that chin is a little extreme though...lol :p

lol, well at least the post fight excuse is all lined up. :p

Nah, he always gets on the pies in between fights.

Did anyone else notice the very poor physical condition of Hatton? I know the fight is three months away, but that is the worst shape I have ever seen him in. Double chin and puffy face very clear.

Ha ha, he's always has a double chin a few months before a fight. I remember watching him on superstars and he was so overweight :D

He loves a cake, hates sunshine.

He loves a cake, hates sunshine.

I dont think its too big of a deal, he's always in the gym keeping fit even when he hasnt got a fight. Its just surface fat which will provide a good source of energy when he's in his punishing training sessions.

From what i hear, he does like a cake or ten.

on seeing the pic of haton next to zoo i was diapointed with hatton and think he should be training enoguht to stay in relavtive shape fair enough the guy gets big between fights but thats a lil over the top
im now backing zoo to win wit late round KO but i will still be rootng for hatton i love the underdog even if he is a fat pleb

i love the underdog even if he is a fat plebThat cracked me up!!! :lol1:

Here's Hatton's trainer:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40006000/jpg/_40006750_chipspa.jpg

Ah chips, the foodstuff of champions ;)

Lol :D

Don't read anything into Hatton's condition. He always bloats between fights, but it won't affect his fitness come fight night. Hatton will come in superfit and set a torrid pace from the first bell.
Winner by UD Ricky Hatton

the wieght yoyo is gonna kills his career later on, if it doesn't get killed by Tsyzu.

Yeah, he either needs to go up a weight class or lay off the burgers.

Someone needs to post that pic of Tsyzu between fights. He gets just as fat in my opinion...his face just doesn't show it quite as much.

Hatton looks kinda like an evil John Daly.

Hatton looks kinda like an evil John Daly.
Haha. He does. He looks kind of like a grown up, drunk dennis the menace.
:)

He actually looks worse in the other pic but still :eek:

http://dpiercydesigns.com/boxing/hatton.jpg

http://www.*********.com/1photos/hatton_scale.jpg

Its kinda looks like a different person. :D

Yeah from that state to being like skeletor, can't be doing his body any good at all.

I don't really know what the big deal is. These guys are professional fighters. They're not just some undisciplined kid who can't control their weight. Boxers know their bodies as much as anybody and they have great control over it. Hell, they could gain or lose 5 to 10 pounds overnight if they really want to.

Don't worry Hatton fans, it's not his weight that will spell his demise, it will be Tszyu's right hand.

http://www.pointsincase.com/columns/images/fat_guy.jpg

IMO, Hatton needs to shave and train for his fight against Tszyu.

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/p/Powers_Austin/sq-fat-bastard-goldmember-newl.jpg

Yeah from that state to being like skeletor, can't be doing his body any good at all.

Knocks me sick a little when i see your boy Harrison on the scales, he takes it to extreme's too.

Remember seeing Acelino Freitas weighing in for Barry Jones? Thats the worst i've seen, he was so dehydrated he was snatching water from someone a split second after making(supposedly) weight.

All the fighters seem to be at it these days, they should make them weigh in on the night of the fight & have a certain weight they can't go above.
I remember the Freitas incident, he grabbed something to drink & downed it straight away so they couldn't ask him to weigh in again :rolleyes: though it almost backfired that time when Barry Jones decked him & Jones had never decked anyone in his career :D

ouch i just saw the fight and BRITS , dont you think he looks like BENNY HILL ?

last time I checked...the fight was 4 months away

http://www.kostyatszyu.com/NextGenWeb/NGStandard/NGBlobRender.asp?BlobID=466712791 http://www.kostyatszyu.com/NextGenWeb/NGStandard/NGBlobRender.asp?BlobID=1506684951 http://www.kostyatszyu.com/NextGenWeb/NGStandard/NGBlobRender.asp?BlobID=1507587188 http://www.kostyatszyu.com/NextGenWeb/NGStandard/NGBlobRender.asp?BlobID=1840074301 http://www.kostyatszyu.com/NextGenWeb/NGStandard/NGBlobRender.asp?BlobID=1001714411 http://www.kostyatszyu.com/NextGenWeb/NGStandard/NGBlobRender.asp?BlobID=626383212

if any or all of those don't work for anybody, it's because you may need to be logged on to his site to see them...in any case, just trust me, tszyu is a ****ing butterball within 2-3 weeks following a fight....every time

http://www.*********.com/1photos/hatton_scale.jpg

Its kinda looks like a different person. :D

LOL!

When you compare the pic of Tszyu and Hatton, Hatton looks like a washed up mechanic or something, Tszyu looks professional.

Woah Hatton does a Skeletor on the scales! He looks like an evil white boy in this pic.

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if any or all of those don't work for anybody, it's because you may need to be logged on to his site to see them...in any case, just trust me, tszyu is a ****ing butterball within 2-3 weeks following a fight....every time

LOL, I dont know why I found this funny as (re: term butterball).

I've seen footage of KT training and he is a determined machine. I guess afterwards he just pigs out lol.

Hatton is always big in between fights this stuff has been said before, It's only because he's fighting Zoo that people are making a big deal out of this, believe me Hatton will be on perfect condition come the weigh in.

I don't know if the guys over in the States knew Hatton blew up that bad though, we've known it for a few years now but that may have shocked a few people.

There is no way Hatton could come in fat, he's naturally too big to carry any extra weight and still make 140.

The only worry i have about Hatton is over training.

overweight isnt the correct word, hatton looked straight fat witha double chin and everything, looks like he is only concerned about getting paid.

At the end of the day, what he looks like on fight night is all that counts.

The only worry i have about Hatton is over training.

If by Overtraining you mean "Attacking" the Fish and Chips,

then yes. I worry as well.

overweight isnt the correct word, hatton looked straight fat witha double chin and everything, looks like he is only concerned about getting paid.

There's plenty of time for him to train and get his weight down where it's supposed to be. Don't know why anybody is even concerned about it. Sure, it was kind of funny to see that second chin tagging along, but why make a big deal over it?

imagine how he will be looking after the fight?

If by Overtraining you mean "Attacking" the Fish and Chips,

then yes. I worry as well.

:D

Billy Graham's a great conditioner, he's been with Hatton since the start and i really doubt he'll let Hatton mess it up at the last hurdle.

Hatton will come in ripped, i have no doubts.

There's plenty of time for him to train and get his weight down where it's supposed to be. Don't know why anybody is even concerned about it. Sure, it was kind of funny to see that second chin tagging along, but why make a big deal over it?

It's not that i dont think he will look shape by fight time but most of the greats in history were always in shape even when not fighting, and thus in training most of the focus was on the plan for that night.

It's true no one walks around in their fighting weight but they dont walk around all flabby either.

I think it shows how determined he is.

imagine how he will be looking after the fight?

The same as usual :D

http://www.profiboksz.hu/news/parts/hatton.jpg

The same as usual :D

http://www.profiboksz.hu/news/parts/hatton.jpg
He looks preety handsome over there ...

http://www.irish-boxing.com/graphics/world/ricky_hatton.jpg

This is how Hatton should look when he fights Tszyu.

In this type of conditioning.

All of that muscle mass, is a waste of space on his body.

It will do nothing but slow him down.

> All of that muscle mass, is a waste of space on his body.

What he has right now is not a muscle mass, you are not geting it from fish and chips kind of training.

> All of that muscle mass, is a waste of space on his body.

What he has right now is not a muscle mass, you are not geting it from fish and chips kind of training.

haha.

I was talking more about:

http://www.profiboksz.hu/news/parts/hatton.jpg

how he looks here. More lean mass on his shoulders.

it is obvious, that he is blown up right now. :D

It is so funny to hear Hattons fans act like it is nothing by saying " He'll lose the weight." Ofcourse he will, there is alot of money on the line. Bt in this sport you HAVE to stay in shape, even when not training for a fight. The weight can come off, but the body will take time to adjust. I actually was kind of leaning towards Hatton in an upset at first because of his strong fighting on the inside, but I have changed my mind totally on this one. Kostya Tszyu stops a fatigued Ricky Hatton by late round stoppage.

It is so funny to hear Hattons fans act like it is nothing by saying " He'll lose the weight." Ofcourse he will, there is alot of money on the line.No, that's not what's being said. People aren't saying it's not important and potentially harmful, people who know Hatton are just pointing out that this is what he always does, so it's no more detrimental to this fight than any other he takes.

haha.

I was talking more about:

http://www.profiboksz.hu/news/parts/hatton.jpg

how he looks here. More lean mass on his shoulders.

it is obvious, that he is blown up right now. :D
He looks over there like light-heavy or cruiserwight.

OK, I will chime in.

Hatton probably has a natural weight of about 160 which is pretty big for a guy that is about 5'6 or so. When he is not watching his weight, he probably gets up to about 170 and his face gets a little puffier. As the fights get closer, he probably loses about 2 pounds per week until he gets to about 155 or so. The couple of days before the fight, he dehydrates himself to about 140 or a little lower and then drinks about two gallons of water the day of the weigh in to get back up to the 155 or so that he fights at.

This is no different from other fighters, it is just the Tszyu's body was smaller because the camera was farther away (or further).

Also, it looked like Tszyu's face was in high def, but Hatton's was stretched. Tszyu definately had better posture and was not slouching as much.

All these make the discrepency much more pronounced than it really was.

Despite this, I still pick Tszyu. Way to go out on a limb to pich the heavy favorite.

OK, I will chime in.

Hatton probably has a natural weight of about 160 which is pretty big for a guy that is about 5'6 or so. When he is not watching his weight, he probably gets up to about 170 and his face gets a little puffier. As the fights get closer, he probably loses about 2 pounds per week until he gets to about 155 or so. The couple of days before the fight, he dehydrates himself to about 140 or a little lower and then drinks about two gallons of water the day of the weigh in to get back up to the 155 or so that he fights at.

This is no different from other fighters, it is just the Tszyu's body was smaller because the camera was farther away (or further).

Also, it looked like Tszyu's face was in high def, but Hatton's was stretched. Tszyu definately had better posture and was not slouching as much.

All these make the discrepency much more pronounced than it really was.

Despite this, I still pick Tszyu. Way to go out on a limb to pich the heavy favorite.


Excellent post. Im pretty sure camera angles did play a part in asessing their "weight".

Tszyu looked broadcasted in a studio next door,

Hatton by a "handicam".

Isn't it disgraceful that he fights 15lbs higher than the weigh-in weight?

Isn't it disgraceful that he fights 15lbs higher than the weigh-in weight?

Gatti was guilty of this offense several times in his career.

He almost killed Gamache when they fought.

Gatti was 24 pounds over the limit.

Yes. That is disgraceful.

KT would be walking around at 170 right now, it just appears that he carries it a bit better than Hatton. I heard one of the other celebrity Grand Prix drivers on the radio the other day & they said that Kostya told them he starts training today (Monday 7th) and has to lose 15KG's. This is not the first I have heard of KT's weight getting that high between fights.
The difference is, Hatton looks out of shape rather than heavy if you know what I mean. KT is obviously keeping fit. Hatton doesn't look like he's doing the same & that is his worry.

But at the end of the day, you fight in the shape that you are in the day of the fight, the judges don't give you points for how good you looked three months before.

Anorak-

Fighters fight at a higher weight than what they weigh in at. In the fight on Saturday both Diaz and Castillo unoffically weighted in at about 15 pounds over the limit. That is just the way it goes. If you don't like it, don't watch boxing, or any other sport that has weight limits.

Ok, I am sorry I said that, you put such great fights on the downloads board that I would be sad if you stopped watching.

That is just the way it goes. If you don't like it, don't watch boxing, or any other sport that has weight limits.


I think Anorak was talking about a huge difference between opponents in the final weigh in. Not necessarily the fact they gain weight after the weigh in.

I still dont understand the Hatton weight issue, Hatton does the same thing every time and on fight night there isnt anyone i can think of who could keep tempo with him. Carrying a bit of fat isnt too bad, its a good source of energy for an intense training camp.

Did anyone else notice the very poor physical condition of Hatton? I know the fight is three months away, but that is the worst shape I have ever seen him in. Double chin and puffy face very clear.

You were reading my mind Rick. KT looks like he's been training somewhat & trying to keep his weight down. Hatton on the other hand looks like he lives at a Guiness stout factory. If KT was really out of shape, you'd see the weight in his face. This is the biggest fight of Hatton's career & yet he's still looking sloppy. I don't care how he trains from now on, in a fight of this magnitude any boxer should be in the shape of their life. A fighter needs to be prepared mentally & physically for a huge fight. Hatton needs to take a lesson from JMM in his prepartion for a rematch with Pac. That guy started training early because he knew how big the fight would be.

I still dont understand the Hatton weight issue, Hatton does the same thing every time and on fight night there isnt anyone i can think of who could keep tempo with him. Carrying a bit of fat isnt too bad, its a good source of energy for an intense training camp.

Its an issue cuz this is the biggest fight of Hattons career and his one chance to finally prove he belongs with the elite. I don't think there is anything wrong carrying a little fat, I mean people are right the fight IS 14 weeks away. But take into account the time that Hatton needs to get into shape, he could have invested that valuable training time to work on something special instead of losing fat.

hatton has already proved that he belongs whith the elite
no one is saying that he is the top top of the elite but he is elite
without a shadow of a doubt to fight the way he does and to have knocked out the ppl he has it shows he is elite.
if someone had battered everyone who is near the elite and once was the elite then obviously they are elite, they may be at the bottom of the elite stock but they are definatly there.

oh and in refferance to the above post hatton has done similar things if not more than cotto and alot of u talk about him as if hes elite so hatton must be as well

in refferance to the below the above post LOL sry to start the hole hatton cotto thing and get a lil off subject
and just for fun i noticed "tto" in both hattons and cottos name maybe there not so different after all

But at the end of the day, you fight in the shape that you are in the day of the fight, the judges don't give you points for how good you looked three months before.

Anorak-

Fighters fight at a higher weight than what they weigh in at. In the fight on Saturday both Diaz and Castillo unoffically weighted in at about 15 pounds over the limit. That is just the way it goes. If you don't like it, don't watch boxing, or any other sport that has weight limits.

Ok, I am sorry I said that, you put such great fights on the downloads board that I would be sad if you stopped watching.

Cheers triben, I'm glad you like my fights. Any help with seeding/torrents I'd be glad of, incidentally... it's taking me about three hours to seed a 250mb file. That's not right, surely?

As for the weight issue, basically I see it as cheating. Ricky weighs in as a Light-Welterweight yet fights as at least one weight class higher. I don't mean his weight three months earlier, I mean the difference between fighting and weighing in.

Cheers triben, I'm glad you like my fights. Any help with seeding/torrents I'd be glad of, incidentally... it's taking me about three hours to seed a 250mb file. That's not right, surely?

As for the weight issue, basically I see it as cheating. Ricky weighs in as a Light-Welterweight yet fights as at least one weight class higher. I don't mean his weight three months earlier, I mean the difference between fighting and weighing in.

Apart from th HW there are very few fighters that actually weigh what the limit is at the time of the fight.

Hatton looks kinda like an evil John Daly.




:D he does, even if he makes weight, on fight night he'll weigh at least as much as kostya, maybe it'll help him take the punches better

What's Hatton, like 5'7? He looks like he weighs 190 lbs. or more. Even if he does well on fight night, that's not a good habit at all, gaining and losing that much weight in such a short time. As time goes on, he's gonna get weaker and weaker in fights because of his body's decreasing ability to retain it's strength after losing so much weight.

knocked out the ppl he has it shows he is elite. if someone had battered everyone who is near the elite and once was the elite then obviously they are elite, they may be at the bottom of the elite stock but they are definatly there.

Can you please re-phrase that paragraph? I cant understand it.