View Full Version : Boxings biggest never say die warriors.


PessimisticPug
03-05-2005, 04:15 PM
Everybody likes to talk about the guys who have quit in fights. I say lets talk about the guys that never stop fighting for nothin'. Top 5 list.Rockin'

AintGottaClue
03-05-2005, 04:18 PM
Ali

the man foguht when he was a disease ridden corpse agaisnt larry holems and lasted 11 rounds

PessimisticPug
03-05-2005, 04:21 PM
i was thinking guys like gatti, morales, remember tex cobb (thats one tough son of a *****) mancini and such. alis a good one though aswell..............Rockin'

Zab Super Judah
03-05-2005, 04:40 PM
morales, gatti, trinidad, barrera, ward

buff_mike10
03-05-2005, 04:49 PM
Chuck Wepner, Evander Holyfield, Marciano had been down and got back up and won them all too.

SacTown1
03-05-2005, 05:05 PM
Ward, Chi, Morales, Holyfield (10 yrs ago), Holmes

+= El Jefe=+
03-05-2005, 05:10 PM
Ali(parkinsons)
Chavez (nothing can keep him from what he loves)
Meldrick Taylor (he never gave up)

hitman7hearns7
03-05-2005, 06:16 PM
not really a big name but a tgh kid micheal brodi at feather weight his first fight with injin chi was amzing it got fight of the year i think 2003
la motta was unbelivable cast iron chin would neva go down or stop coming

Lol999
03-05-2005, 06:33 PM
Nigel benn. Love him or hate him but if you hit him he just kept coming back giving as good as he got.

Lol :D

enadeus
03-05-2005, 06:33 PM
All the top dogs at the 130 and 140 pound divisions make the list.

bangbangko
03-05-2005, 09:22 PM
Lots of good mentions in this thread...but I gotta give it to Arturo Gatti above all else. He's the toughest bastard of my generation by far and not putting him at the top of my list would be a robbery. There's a good reason why they call him the ultimate blood & guts champion...gotta love it baby.

BB

emole123
03-05-2005, 09:28 PM
Benn was mentioned, but how about Gerald McClellan. You hear fighters saying they would rather die in the ring then go out a loser, but in the case of McClellan he just about brought those words to life.

A never say die warrior in the truest sense, as he fights for ability to live life each and every day.

czars_salad
03-05-2005, 09:29 PM
tito trinidad

how many times he'd been knocked down in a fight, and fought back and win those fights?

czars_salad
03-05-2005, 09:31 PM
Benn was mentioned, but how about Gerald McClellan. You hear fighters saying they would rather die in the ring then go out a loser, but in the case of McClellan he just about brought those words to life.
dude, your avatar speaks of a great warrior who never say die also.... i'm a big fan of gatti and trinidad, of course pacman, :D

Kimmy
03-05-2005, 09:37 PM
Tito kinda gave up in the Hopkins fight after being floored in the 12th. I swear i saw his lips motion "No Mas" to the ref!

czars_salad
03-05-2005, 09:41 PM
Tito kinda gave up in the Hopkins fight after being floored in the 12th. I swear i saw his lips motion "No Mas" to the ref!
was it the infamous line of duran?

wmute
03-05-2005, 10:44 PM
well i am surprised no one mentioned joe frazier, ali was had to be hospitalized after the first ali fight) and just kept on coming, as someone said in some other post in the foreman fight he would have kept getting up until the ref stopped the fight.

Famoso Matador
03-06-2005, 12:06 AM
Juan Manuel Marquez, He went down three times in the first and finished the match against pacquio.

RwK
03-06-2005, 12:11 AM
Gatti
Mosley
Jirov
Morales
MAB

Lol999
03-06-2005, 05:06 AM
Thing is Mclellan did quit, he swallowed it and that's a fact. he voluntarily took a knee and quit the fight. Just when you think Benn was down and finished out he'd come as mad and dangerous as before.

Lol

Prostitroop
03-06-2005, 05:27 AM
Johnny "The Matchstick Man" Owen
From his humble beginnings as a sick, frail infant to his meteoric rise through the ranks of boxing. The man fought and died in the ring

Click on the image for a video tribute of the Matchstick Man
http://www.trevor.jones4.btinternet.co.uk/WebGifs/statuef.jpg (http://www.johnnyowen.fsnet.co.uk/tmm.html)

xrhythmxnxbluesx
03-06-2005, 05:55 AM
gotta go with gatti mann... straight up the ultimateblood and guts warrior...

stix
03-06-2005, 08:34 AM
:biggthump then ~ Jake LaMotta :boxing: now ~ Arturo Gatti :biggthump

PessimisticPug
03-06-2005, 12:23 PM
i had just begun boxing when a friend of mine brought over a video. We were kids and he put it in the vcr and said, This is faces of Death, you'll love it. I didnt like the thing at all. When it showed Johnny owen it freaked me out. Some things in this world are not meant to be exploited for money. I realize that boxers roll the dice with their lives at stake everytime that they step up to throw but I found it extremely distatefull and unsettling to watch the clips of the bout. a silent ten count for Johnny. He fought to the end.........Rockin'

PessimisticPug
03-06-2005, 12:34 PM
I just watched the video from the giant wang, it was very good. Seeing the clips in that video gave me a different feeling than watching it on the f.o.d video. This was done with class, in the memorie of Johnny were the other video was pure garbage. Thanks for putting that video clip up. As johnny did, it has heart........Rockin'

leff
03-06-2005, 01:49 PM
Marciano,frazier, ali, holyfield and dempsey were all true warriors.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-06-2005, 03:04 PM
A few are:

Morales, M. Taylor, Cesar Bazan, Juan Manuel Marquez.

In my opinion Barrera should not be included.

TheGreat1
03-06-2005, 06:26 PM
Holyfield
Chavez
Lamon Brewster
Gatti
Ali/Frazier

DCReprezenta
03-06-2005, 06:29 PM
[QUOTE=rightuppercut]Ali(parkinsons)
Chavez (nothing can keep him from what he loves)


not even a Kostya Tszyu right hand or DeLaHoya jab?

hmmmmmmm.

DCReprezenta
03-06-2005, 06:31 PM
morales, gatti, trinidad, barrera, ward
no offense to neither, but wasnt it Trinidad who all but quit against Hopkins....and Barrera who pretty much looked for a way out against Pacquaio?

hmmmmmmmm.

TheGreat1
03-06-2005, 06:32 PM
[QUOTE=rightuppercut]Ali(parkinsons)
Chavez (nothing can keep him from what he loves)


not even a Kostya Tszyu right hand or DeLaHoya jab?

hmmmmmmm.

Chavaz was ending his career when he fought them, he would have beat both of them badly in his prime.

DCReprezenta
03-06-2005, 06:35 PM
Chavez in his prime was a never say die warrior, but he kept fighting past his prime so we must include that into the equation...and honestly Oscar woulda beat him in any era, jus too big and hit too hard, Chavez could take shots from fighters his size, imagine if Oscar hit Chavez wit those punches Taylor landed for 11.25 rounds...Chavez woulda looked like Rocky Dennis.

PessimisticPug
03-06-2005, 06:37 PM
good post dc. Chavez was a never say die warrior, I agree with 100% of your reply. Especially the rocky part........Rockin'

DCReprezenta
03-06-2005, 06:40 PM
Never Say Die:

Mickey Ward (the guy thrives on pain, never forget hearing him say he wanted to continue after the low blow from Gatti. Same left hook that ended the fight against Dorin, Ward took on the pelvis)

Evander Holyfield (who else but Evander would fight his heart out literally, against Bowe with hepatitis...several fights were finished with bodily injuries that other fighters quit from.)

TheGreat1
03-06-2005, 06:44 PM
Chavez in his prime was a never say die warrior, but he kept fighting past his prime so we must include that into the equation...and honestly Oscar woulda beat him in any era, jus too big and hit too hard, Chavez could take shots from fighters his size, imagine if Oscar hit Chavez wit those punches Taylor landed for 11.25 rounds...Chavez woulda looked like Rocky Dennis.

don't forget Taylor alot of shoot that fight too, that landed him in the hospital with internal bleeding. Could DLH have taken those shots?

DCReprezenta
03-06-2005, 06:48 PM
Question is, "would De La Hoya have taken those shots?"...Oscar's 5'10 and had equal overall speed to Taylor with much more power.

TheGreat1
03-06-2005, 07:03 PM
Question is, "would De La Hoya have taken those shots?"...Oscar's 5'10 and had equal overall speed to Taylor with much more power.

Oscar is quick, but not equal to taylor. JCC was a great fighter and would have been able to land, i really think JCC could have taken DLH's shots, but i don't know if that goes both ways, i would go with JCC by late KO

DCReprezenta
03-06-2005, 07:09 PM
wow...Oscar's handspeed as a young fighter was brilliant, Chavez was tough no doubt, but with that much skill and such a heavy left hand i think Oscar would have spelled trouble for Chavez in any era...and we have come to find out that Oscar can hit and run for 12 rounds.

Truth
03-06-2005, 08:40 PM
1.)Holyfield
2.)Trinidad
3.)Ali
4.)Gatti

Tha Greatest
03-06-2005, 09:46 PM
Meldrick Taylor - HIS NUMBER ONE!!!
JC Chavez
Evander Holyfield
Arturo Gatti
Micky Ward
Marvelous Marvin Hagler
Jake LaMotta
Nigel Benn
Gerald McClellan
Thomas Hearns-u gotta put this guy in there, he may have got knocked out a few times, but did u see the way he tried to get up against Marvin Hagler, he was doin it while he was out cold
Muhammad Ali
Ricardo "El Matador" Mayorga
Marco Antonio Barrera

czars_salad
03-06-2005, 10:01 PM
ward-gatti fights are the showcases of never-say-die attitude

klev1
03-07-2005, 02:24 AM
ward-gatti fights are the showcases of never-say-die attitude

what he said.

Manila Eyes
03-07-2005, 03:36 AM
was it the infamous line of duran?

"No Mas" (No More).

KJ
03-07-2005, 10:01 AM
Marvin Hagler for sure

Also
JC Chavez
Evander Holyfield
Arturo Gatti

KJ
03-07-2005, 10:05 AM
Nigel benn. Love him or hate him but if you hit him he just kept coming back giving as good as he got.

Lol :D

Didn't he quit, in his last fight?!

Mike Tyson Jr.
03-07-2005, 10:05 AM
morales, gatti, trinidad, barrera, ward



trinidad retired for 2
years after he got beat.
he is a quitter.

KJ
03-07-2005, 10:08 AM
trinidad retired for 2
years after he got beat.
he is a quitter.
Did he not come back?!!

Lol999
03-07-2005, 11:06 AM
Didn't he quit, in his last fight?!

Probably, but after the war he went into with Mclellan he was allowed such a luxury ;) I think after his last fight, against Steve Collins I think, he pretty much said "the spirits willing, but the old body just can't hack it any more"

Lol :D