From Tyson Talk.com
Mike Tyson News: Tyson rumoured to go on European Tour



By David Kelly

21 November 2004
Rumour has it Mike Tyson is heading to Dublin for a 2005 showdown with Clones giant Kevin McBride.

Tyson's coach Freddie Roach, rated the number one coach in the world, revealed to Sunday Life that plans are at an advanced stage to bring the former undisputed World heavyweight champion to Ireland as part of a European tour.

Tyson was all set to face McBride earlier this year until a dispute over money allowed Danny Williams to get his chance and shock the world by stopping the 38-year-old.

Roach insists that Tyson can still work his way back to another title shot and that a knee injury helped Williams, who challenges World champion Vitali Klitschko on December 11, to deliver the victory of his previously indifferent career.

The Los Angeles-based trainer, who also works with Wayne McCullough and Bernard Dunne, feels it must be a more gradual process for Tyson.

"I want Mike to do a European tour and then get another big title shot. I've spoken to him about fighting in Dublin and he loves the idea.

His promoter Shelly Finkel is also keen and I've spoken to Dunne's manager Brian Peters about putting it on," revealed Roach.

"As soon as it was mentioned to Mike he was very keen to fight in Ireland and I'm sure Mike against McBride would draw a very big crowd over there.

"I can see Mike starting there and then having a fight in England and maybe Germany and France. Four or five fights in quick time that will really get him ready for a title fight.

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"He needs to be active to get the best out of him. When he fought Danny Williams I thought he showed some of his old best form. He was quick and throwing plenty of combinations but then he injured his knee and that stopped him from getting the leverage to get his punches off and he was left open to Williams' shots.

"But credit to Danny as well. He fought a great fight that night. He showed plenty of courage and he deserves his shot at Klitschko.

"That's a fight that Mike would love to have again. We'd like to even that score and that could be one of the fights for Mike."

While many view convicted rapist Tyson as a debt-ridden former champion out of control and with little chance of getting back to the top, Roach insists that he is now more focused than ever on his career.

"I know the image people have but Mike's a nice guy, he really is. When he fought Lennox Lewis (and got knocked out) his training camp was in Hawaii ? you can't have that for a World heavyweight title fight. That's over now.

"For Williams he sparred eight rounds a day and he was in very good shape. He's a really good guy. There's no problem with Mike.

"He's a down to earth guy who's still fighting on to pay off his debts. I hope that after another, maybe five fights that he then retires.

"He's still a big draw in boxing and people still want to go and see Mike Tyson."

That would surely be the case if, as Roach expects, Tyson comes to Dublin.

Meanwhile, boxing promoter Eugene Maloney, who helped staged last week's pro-am show at Shorts Recreational Club, is keen to come back to Belfast and put on a bill at the Ulster Hall.

"The little show went well but I think it can be done even better. The Irish people love their fighting and there's no reason why you couldn't have regular small, value for money shows there," said Maloney, who regularly stages sell-out bills at the York Hall and has built up a reputation for quality shows.

So he will beat upp some bums, pay off his debts, perhaps get a tittle fight and will probably lose it and than retire.

Oh well i guess he could beat brewster.

Sounds like a plan,but you forgot to mention the part about unifying all the titles..

Tyson is done, over, out, shot and lightyears past his prime. If the guys on the comission handle every fighter the same way they should take away his license and stop sanctioning any of his fights.

And he could still pay of his debts by masturbating in the MSG, couldn't he?

It woud be great if he coud make a sucsesful comback

That's the best boxing news I've heard for a long time. Let's
hope that mike can get his act together and fight for a champion
ship again. :mad:

i think mike can still ko a lot of bums and in the process earn some bucks to pay his debt... GOOD LUCK IRON MIKE, dont hurt yourself...

i cant wait to see mike at the top of the boxing world again. i hope its all not hype.

yeah i like this news

You guys are either hopeless or fanatic tyson fans. He'll never come back, he's spent. What makes it so hard to finally understand that Mike Tyson is a sad copy of his former self?

I truly believe that Tyson lost against Williams because of the knee injury. I've read reports that he left the ring after the fight on his own legs and with no problems, no sign of a gimp or anything. Without the knee injury, Tyson could have won at least by TKO by rounds three, maybe four. At this age, fighters are prone to injury, i.ie. James Toney. Plus, with age comes a slight diminsihment of power, let alone accuracy and speed which Tyson also relies on. Footwork becomes lazy, reflexes are shot. Tyson can earn himself a good top Ten ranking if everything goes perfectly for him, and that is a big if. I do not believe that he can beat a title holder, except for maybe Brewster, and he would have to pace himself. He could have a chance against Ruiz.

Tyson is done, over, out, shot and lightyears past his prime. If the guys on the comission handle every fighter the same way they should take away his license and stop sanctioning any of his fights.

And he could still pay of his debts by masturbating in the MSG, couldn't he?


...lol lol lol funny stuff

You guys are either hopeless or fanatic tyson fans. He'll never come back, he's spent. What makes it so hard to finally understand that Mike Tyson is a sad copy of his former self?


Hey BRO you don't call people a FAN if they are not FANatics! :D well I'm not a TYSON fanatic but I don't see anything wrong in giving the guy a chance to make a final bid for a comeback earn some bucks and pay off his debts.

If he blew it again then sorry for him. ;)

Personally i feel Tyson has more chance of winning a world title than Holyfield does.

Holyfield`s shot, but so is Tyson, just less so. It is quite comical that team Tyson mention fighting Kevin McBride and winning the world title in the same sentence. McBride is a joke, i`ve seen about 20 of his fights and he wins against bums. I remember German heavyweight Axel Schulz beating him up pretty badly a few years back and Louis Monaco stopping him in 5 also. It shows you the conifidence they have in Tyson for this fight to be made. Tyson is capable of beating the McBrides of this world but i guess he is also capable of losing to anyone, such is his poor conditioning and weak mental make up. Still people hold hope of one day Tyson being able to win a title back but its never gonna happen. I`d pick John Ruiz to beat Tyson at this stage, i`m not saying he couldn`t beat Ruiz but Ruiz would have a good chance if he could take the fight late. I would also go so far as to say Tyson is no longer world class, he is on the same level as probably larry donald or on a good day Fres Oquendo.

You guys are either hopeless or fanatic tyson fans. He'll never come back, he's spent. What makes it so hard to finally understand that Mike Tyson is a sad copy of his former self?

Mike tyson is 38 or 39, is in good shape, and is not beat up or

spent like Ali was at 39. mike tyson is still a force to be

recogned with. His promoters want him to fight 4-5 times in a

short span to get him back on his game! What genius, tyson is

most effective when he is fighting frequently. Just look at his

record in the first 2 years of his career; he was fighting at

least once per month and knocking everone he faced out. Although

he is not a young man anymore, but who says you got to be young

to win the title.(George Foreman,45 years young!)He will be back,

he has to, he got bills to pay! :mad:

My lord, you Tyson fans are hopeless.
What's it going to take for you to accept the truth ?

If it was all as easy as you all make it ("he just needs to train", "he needs Rooney back", "he needs to fight more") wouldn't there be a whole bunch of SHOT fighters rejuvenating their careers ?

He's had his ass beaten in all of his REAL fights, since he got out of jail.

I imagine if this mofo was killed in the ring, you'd all start talking about "Well, Mike will return someday...win back his title, using cryogenics."

ENOUGH.

As Tyson'scolon, as I feel that I have some firsthand info into the internal state of one Mike G. Tyson.
I was discussing the state of affairs with Tyson'sspleen, when Tyson'sknee limped by. "Why so sad?", I asked.
"Mike don't give a **** abuot me! He just wants to get high and get laid. He doesn't care one bit about rehabbing me or fighting again! Kevin mcBride is gonna kill us!".
So there you have it. Straight from Tyson'scolon.

My lord, you Tyson fans are hopeless.
What's it going to take for you to accept the truth ?

If it was all as easy as you all make it ("he just needs to train", "he needs Rooney back", "he needs to fight more") wouldn't there be a whole bunch of SHOT fighters rejuvenating their careers ?

He's had his ass beaten in all of his REAL fights, since he got out of jail.

I imagine if this mofo was killed in the ring, you'd all start talking about "Well, Mike will return someday...win back his title, using cryogenics."

ENOUGH.


Other than vitali, byrd, williams who in the heavyweight divison today would have a chance of beating tyson? Jameel effing Mccline or w. klitshco or how bout freakin ruiz? I dont think so.
Ask yourself if former heavyweight champ George Foreman could make one of the most successful comebacks in boxing history why can't tyson. Before retiring in '77' foreman experienced so tought losses to Ali, young. So Mike Tyson has suffered some setbacks, I doesn't mean he's all done. Give him some credit, he hasn't even come close to hitting the lows holyfield has experienced. :mad:

groan... cmon freddie, put a stop to this

I'd like to see him destroy John "Huggy Bear" Ruiz!! Let's see how Johnny feels about hugging someone who he knows is capable of biting off his ears..hey, maybe Ruiz will actually take part in a boxing match for once and start throwing some punches instead of hugging.

I definitely think that against someone as aggressive as Mike that Ruiz would get nailed coming in head first attempting to clinch. I see Tyson by TKO or even KO if he properly trains, but I also see Ruiz frustrating him and POSSIBLY grinding out a decision. Oh who knows with Tyson...Ruiz has beaten Golota (may it be unfair), Rachman, Oquendo..

Mike tyson is 38 or 39, is in good shape, and is not beat up or

spent like Ali was at 39. mike tyson is still a force to be

recogned with. His promoters want him to fight 4-5 times in a

short span to get him back on his game! What genius, tyson is

most effective when he is fighting frequently. Just look at his

record in the first 2 years of his career; he was fighting at

least once per month and knocking everone he faced out. Although

he is not a young man anymore, but who says you got to be young

to win the title.(George Foreman,45 years young!)He will be back,

he has to, he got bills to pay! :mad:


The first two years of your career is when you fights bums. You should KO bums.

dont really see why everyone considers the man history with such a weak hw division i can see at least 2 title fights because of it. Ruiz is a weak link he shouldnt have a belt, but he does. I wouldn't be surprised for another of the title holders to step up to a tyson fight for the money he brings and just plain name recognition or respect what ever you want to call it. cant say i'd want to watch tyson ruiz fight but tyson would ko him in 3 if they did.

I'd like to see him destroy John "Huggy Bear" Ruiz!! Let's see how Johnny feels about hugging someone who he knows is capable of biting off his ears..hey, maybe Ruiz will actually take part in a boxing match for once and start throwing some punches instead of hugging.


This is an interesting idea, Tyson may not be able to take Ruiz' belt away, but he might bite his ear in the clinches or uppercut Ruiz as he;s grabbing on for a big hug. Even if it's just to see the hugster get fouled and bitten, i'd like to see this fight

i think tyson lost cuz of the injury ..i mean SH*T COME ON PPL....when they operated his leg they found a ball the size od a baseball of blood...imagine fighting 3 rounds with that pain in ur leg and weighting 228 pounds...

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i think mike can do it..he could for sure ko john ruiz/lamon brewster and byrd....lets see what happens before we start talking...this is the same thing ppl where saying before Forman ko'ed Moore...anyway i am not a true hardcre tyson fan...but you cant hate having tyson around..he's gonna bring back excitment to HW division

dont really see why everyone considers the man history with such a weak hw division i can see at least 2 title fights because of it. Ruiz is a weak link he shouldnt have a belt, but he does. I wouldn't be surprised for another of the title holders to step up to a tyson fight for the money he brings and just plain name recognition or respect what ever you want to call it. cant say i'd want to watch tyson ruiz fight but tyson would ko him in 3 if they did.

They are most likely the same people who consider Wlad history. Don't pay any attention to them.

GOD PLEASE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Other than vitali, byrd, williams who in the heavyweight divison today would have a chance of beating tyson? Jameel effing Mccline or w. klitshco or how bout freakin ruiz? I dont think so.
Ask yourself if former heavyweight champ George Foreman could make one of the most successful comebacks in boxing history why can't tyson. Before retiring in '77' foreman experienced so tought losses to Ali, young. So Mike Tyson has suffered some setbacks, I doesn't mean he's all done. Give him some credit, he hasn't even come close to hitting the lows holyfield has experienced. :mad:

Holyfield never gave up during a fight!

I would love to see the old tyson return, but mentally he is not the same guy anymore, Skill wise he is not the same guy anymore, and physically he is the same guy anymore.

When he comes to fight on our side of the big "lake", I will sure try to go and see the fight.

But to say he is going to be champ again...... :rolleyes:

word up on that

If the man wants to come back and earn a living like most men have to do in life then who are we to argue. It's his job and even though i personally don't think he'll be the Unified Champion of the World i still think he could be in with a chance for a title if he fights the right people. He needs his confidence re-building and that may involve fighting a few lower level fighters.

While I still sometimes delude myself and think that Tyson still has something left from his prime, the fact of the matter is that he has been done for many years now. Even if he had 60 percent of his prime, I am sure he would be champion today but such is not the case.

Tyson looked good against Williams until he stopped throwing punches. The best he'd looked for a long time. The moment he hurt his knee was plain to see during the fight too... So who knows? He is way past his best and the odds are stacked against him being champion again but the division has got a talent famine right now and stranger things have happened. I'm not expecting the Tyson of '86 to reappear though... In fact, i'd be happy for Tyson to fight bums to be honest - just so the guy doesn't end his career riddled with debt. But i can't bring myself to write him off just yet. Yes, i am a Tyson fan.

I still don't understand why so many are concerned about Mike Tyson's second shot at being filthy rich.

IMO.....anyone who earns close to 300 million dollars, but winds up 30 million in debt, should remain in debt for the rest of their lives.

This clown is pushing 40 years old.....he'll never stop f*cking his life up.
If he goes 30 million into the black....watch him squander it once again.

He's also been an embarrassment to the sport of boxing for a long time now....so I certainly don't think he deserves to get rich off of it, again.

I think it's a joke that he lost all that money and ended up in debt. Some people don't earn 1 million dollars in a lifetime. I don't feel sorry for him at all because he has done this to himself.

"Poor Mike. All he ever wanted was a $21,000,000 home, a few white tigers, a slew of Bentley's, that's all. Oh yeah, he also liked to pay a few guys to stand around screaming, 'The best ever, the best EVER !'......all small desires & needs. He really deserves a second shot at these meager things in life."

Thats funny Jabs

He had it all and he blew it, if he wants to fight and and try to earn it back i don't care. I certainly won't be paying for any of his fights unless he gets a title shot.

He is a spent force but he's got a punch and thats why ppll will always be interested.

I definitely think that against someone as aggressive as Mike that Ruiz would get nailed coming in head first attempting to clinch. I see Tyson by TKO or even KO if he properly trains, but I also see Ruiz frustrating him and POSSIBLY grinding out a decision. Oh who knows with Tyson...Ruiz has beaten Golota (may it be unfair), Rachman, Oquendo..

After seeing some clips from the Ruiz/Golota fight before the Mosley fight last saturday, I don't think it's as big as a robbery as some people make it to be. In between clinches Ruiz was landing some hard shots, I guess those shots scored big for him...

It must sucks to be you guys....
You know having to eat your own words after Mike Tyson unifies the division..

It must sucks to be you guys....
You know having to eat your own words after Mike Tyson unifies the division..


In order to unify the division, Mike may actually have to fight guys who can fight back a bit.

Do you how much Mike dreads that thought ?

"I wiszth theseth guysth would justht be thcared of me like the good old daysth. Thingsth were stho mawch easthier back then."

"Mike Tyson to fight in Britain

By David Smith, Evening Standard
23 November 2004

Mike Tyson is set to fight in a British boxing ring for the first time in nearly five years.

Tyson, who was was beaten by London heavyweight Danny Williams in Louisville four months ago, is being lined up for a European tour. It would involve bouts in England and in Dublin, where he would be matched with Irish giant Kevin McBride.

Freddie Roach, Tyson's trainer, wants the 38-year-old American to have a series of comeback fights before making another challenge on a world title.

The former undisputed champion marked his debut in a British ring with a second-round stoppage of Julius Francis in January 2000. Five months later he returned to beat Lou Savarese inside one round in Glasgow. "

I think perhaps MIke can use some of his maturity against that...guys fighting back that is. He is older now than before. ANd I would hope more mature..BUt let's face it, I don't even think they'll want to put him in with a tittleholder for a bit..They want him to fight a few weak fighters, then slowly move up, and then fight a title holder, maybe at the end of next year, or early 2006.

This is necessary. Mike Tyson still has enormous debt to pay off and can still earn millions of dollars fighting, no matter who the opponent is. But any talk of him fighting for the championship is bull ****. He's barnstorming at this point. That's all.

So mike's flying over the pond to take on some Euro taxi drivers. I just hope he doesn't get beat. I'd like to see Tyson take on Holyfield again. Shoot! he might even win this time around if they were to meet.

In order to unify the division, Mike may actually have to fight guys who can fight back a bit.

Do you how much Mike dreads that thought ?

"I wiszth theseth guysth would justht be thcared of me like the good old daysth. Thingsth were stho mawch easthier back then."

Your hating on Mike is just disgusting, man...
If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Your hating on Mike is just disgusting, man...
If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.


O.K....

You just go & butcher some dopey bird.....rabbit.....something, Mr. Nice Guy !

Excuse me?

So mike's flying over the pond to take on some Euro taxi drivers. I just hope he doesn't get beat. I'd like to see Tyson take on Holyfield again. Shoot! he might even win this time around if they were to meet.

Palma we would all like to see Holyfield-Tyson III but Holyfield
has everthing to lose and not much to gain by beating him, so IMO it would never happen.

Insofar as mike coming back to be a legimate contender, if his euro-tour pans out(if it really happens) I think his chances are very good. What I would love to see next year is a Tyson-Bowe match if both are sucessful in their comebacks.

None of you guys will touch my foreman argument.(if 45 yr old foreman can win back title, why can't mike) Very interesting. :mad:

that would be great

I woundnt mind seeing a Tyson and Moorer match

Palma we would all like to see Holyfield-Tyson III but Holyfield
has everthing to lose and not much to gain by beating him, so IMO it would never happen.

Insofar as mike coming back to be a legimate contender, if his euro-tour pans out(if it really happens) I think his chances are very good. What I would love to see next year is a Tyson-Bowe match if both are sucessful in their comebacks.

None of you guys will touch my foreman argument.(if 45 yr old foreman can win back title, why can't mike) Very interesting. :mad:

holyfield would gain nothing from beating tyson!!!!

this is what happens when ya beat mike tyson.
Ya get a shot at the wbc title holder Vitali Klitskcho.
V-klit is arguably the man to beat in the division.

This fight would be the best thing to happen to holyfield.

Happened for Danny Williams and in a weird way for Lennox Lewis
(lewis had the belt then)

I dont think Mike has the real hunger to make a succesful comeback. He needs the money only.