View Full Version : Could use some help, which standing heavy bag?


Source
09-05-2009, 09:45 PM
Hello,

I hope this is the correct place to post this so here i go:

Since i live in a dormer i can't hang up a Heavy Bag since it probably takes the roof down with him when i hit it to hard.

So now i've looked into some standing boxing bags but i have no clue what the better/durable brands are for standing bags.
One of my old trainers in the gym i was says some good things about WaveMaster but i found it pretty expensive (it's almost ***8364;390 / $550 here).

I found some and like to know what are the pros and cons about them and if anybody has some personal experience with them.

Here is a handful of Standing Heavy Bags I can buy:
Will update the post with some pictures when i have 15+ posts :)
If there are other brands that are good, i look if i can get those in my country.


- Taurus Standing Heavy Bag (http://www.sport-tiedje.nl/taurus/boxsaecke/tb2500_detail.jpg)
***8364;230,-

Taurus Box-Man 'Trainings partner' (http://www.sport-tiedje.nl/taurus/boxsaecke/boxingman_detail.jpg)
***8364;280,-

Taurus Standing 'Reflex'heavy bag (http://www.sport-tiedje.nl/taurus/boxsaecke/standboxsack_detail.jpg)
***8364;350,-

Hammer 'Trainings Parner' (named) Perfect Punch (http://www.sport-tiedje.nl/hammer/trainingspartnerperfectpunch_detail.jpg)
***8364;388,-

WaveMaster XXL (http://www.sport-tiedje.nl/century/wavemaster/wavemaster_xxl_detail.jpg)
***8364;388,-

Century BOB - Body Opponent Bag (http://www.sport-tiedje.nl/century/bob_detail.jpg)
***8364;388,-

They also have some Everlast and Lonsdale bags.

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I put the prices with it since my next question will be:
Is the price difference between the WaveMaster and other standing bags worth it? (around ***8364;150,- to ***8364;100,- in difference).
It's a lot of money for me, so what is better about the WaveMasterXXL? Or in other words; what can i do more with it than a regular heavy standing bag?

And those torso-like 'bags', I know they are good for technique and accuracy but can you go 'all out' on it like on a real heavy bag or will it just fall down?

And I can't find much info about the quality of Taurus, is it any good?
Also can't find a site, only thing i find is the Taurus brand for guns etc.

And for those who have used a standing bag before, is it advised to put a rubber mat under it? Even when filled with sand?

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Some info:
I have trained a couple of years 'for fun' boxing, or Recreational Boxing as they tend to call it here.
Both of the trainers i trained with left the gym and now there is some guy who knows **** about teaching, so i quit the gym (came out better since in have not much spare time) and am looking for a bag to train at home.
For the reason above i can't use a hanging Heavy Bag otherwise i would use the same as the gym.
Do regular boxing, no kick boxing.

If any information is needed, please let me know.

Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you

Hanoncs
09-06-2009, 05:41 AM
I don't recommend getting a free standing bag, I say get smomthing like this http://store.titleboxing.com/everlast-heavy-bag-stand.html

Source
09-06-2009, 08:30 AM
Thanks for the replay.
Only thing is, i have checked the shops near me and they have two stand:

The one you posted but that one doesn't look very secure/strong, but that can be my view.

And another one from Century, which cost a overrated 400,- excl. bag/speedbag.


That is to much money for me (and for what you get).
Plus that i want something that i can easily move around, so that it isn't in the middle of my room all day.
Those stands, while there is a bag on it, don't look very easy to move.. Is my guess.

Source
09-06-2009, 01:11 PM
Updated the post with links to pics of the bag.

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On a change of mind..
Does anybody has experience with that Everlast Stand for Heavy Bags?

(O and as an example of the prices, that thing of $129,- ..
Here in The Netherlands you pay a criminal-high 199,- (or $248) ..
Ridiculous ain't it :\

Hanoncs
09-06-2009, 05:48 PM
I have one that has a heavy bag, speed bag and double end bag. They are nice, But you need to get sand bags(Alot Cheaper Than Weight Plates) It takes about 100- 200LBS TO HOLD IT STEADY...............Just get a 100LB bag to hang. I don't know where you are but look on craigslist.com or ebay.com............ I got mine which holds Heavy Bag/Speed Bag/Double end bag for $100 total. It costs $399.99 plus $65.00 shipping from titleboxing.com

Source
09-06-2009, 08:16 PM
Thanks for the replay.

I've searched some second-hand sites but only thing they sell is some kiddo boxing bags or some nameless Boxing bags that are falling apart.
To bad we don't have something like Craiglist here.
Will try Ebay tomorrow but already guess that the shipping-costs will be killing.

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So what was wrong with the free standing bag?
In total, i think it is a lot cheaper than getting a good Standing bag with killing-shipping costs, plus a good heavy bag (with also the shipping costs).

There is a discount now on the WaveMaster but don't know if i should take it then?

Chip2006uk
09-06-2009, 08:21 PM
Thanks for the replay.

I've searched some second-hand sites but only thing they sell is some kiddo boxing bags or some nameless Boxing bags that are falling apart.
To bad we don't have something like Craiglist here.
Will try Ebay tomorrow but already guess that the shipping-costs will be killing.

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So what was wrong with the free standing bag?
In total, i think it is a lot cheaper than getting a good Standing bag with killing-shipping costs, plus a good heavy bag (with also the shipping costs).

There is a discount now on the WaveMaster but don't know if i should take it then?


Ive got a BBE punching man torso thingy, Ive had it for ages and its seriously not durable at all even though the advert says otherwise, Ive smacked the head off it twice (got a replacement first time as it was still in warranty) and the one Im using now is ripped to shreds, Its gaffa taped up to hell just to keep it togther, although it probably wont last much longer, another annoying thing is that if it does rip, everytime you hit it little red bits of foam go all over the floor.

If you havent got any space for anything else though like me then the do the job (just about).

edit:http://www.boxingdaily.co.uk/wp-content/img/BBEPunchMan.JPG

Ive also had to tape up the actual pole/stand thing as the constant banging messed up the screws.

basically its probably not designed for a heavy bag session

Source
09-06-2009, 08:32 PM
I checked Ebay for the Boxing Stand and i can get it for 177,- from The U.K.
So who knows what the shipping price will be :dead1:

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/mmafightstoreuk/heavy_bagstand-1.jpg

Anybody knows something about the quality of this thing?

All i know is that it cost an unreal 350,- in the 'real' stores in The Netherlands.
So it's almost half price.

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Is this better than the Century Wave Master?
I can get that one (with the discount) for 340,-

http://www.drbeckx.com/images/bokspaal%20wavemaster-XXL.jpg

Hanoncs
09-06-2009, 09:28 PM
That century one is pretty nice, My friend has one. Speed bag drum vibrates some but you can just tape a sand bag on top of it. If you can afford it i'd get that. There are no stores near you that carry heavy bags? I guess Walmart hasn't finished taking over the world yet!

Source
09-07-2009, 02:17 PM
We have plenty of stores with a big choice of Heavy Bags.
Only thing they don't carry, is the stands.. We only have some wall-mounts or for the ceiling. (And that is not going to work.).

So i can get the WaveMaster XXL shipped for ***8364;285,-
Only thing i like to know is: (just want every option looked at before i buy something :))
What is not so good about the WaveMaster XXL?

I find the Century Boxing stand very nice myself, it even has a place for a speed or double-end bag.
But the problem is the size, since it is in my kind of small students-room i am wondering where to put it.

I think i can stuff the WaveMaster in the hallway but i don't see how i could move a massive Boxing stand (altough nicer) with an also heavy bag on it. Need to measure all the sizes.

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So i like to know what you find not good about it? Did it break very soon or?

No offence btw, just want to see all the other options. And a WaveMaster (since i hear good things about it) sounds nice so far because can roll it to another spot without much hassle (and damage to the floor).

Thank you for all the input.

PAC-BOY
09-07-2009, 02:35 PM
I checked Ebay for the Boxing Stand and i can get it for 177,- from The U.K.
So who knows what the shipping price will be :dead1:

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/mmafightstoreuk/heavy_bagstand-1.jpg

Anybody knows something about the quality of this thing?

All i know is that it cost an unreal 350,- in the 'real' stores in The Netherlands.
So it's almost half price.

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Is this better than the Century Wave Master?
I can get that one (with the discount) for 340,-

http://www.drbeckx.com/images/bokspaal%20wavemaster-XXL.jpg

it sucks. The heavy bag you cannot move side to side and work. I had one and threw it away. You wont like it. dont waste your money

PAC-BOY
09-07-2009, 02:36 PM
referring to the top pic

Source
09-07-2009, 02:37 PM
Ok, that is another side of the story.
And do you have any experience with a standing bag?
Or with the second picture, the WaveMaster XXL?

PAC-BOY
09-07-2009, 02:40 PM
I never had to use the standing bag...so no. I did hit on one messing around at a friends house and it was different than a hanging bag. Keep in mind ive been hitting hanging bags for over 6yrs so im custom to the hang bag