If these guys ever fought at lightweight, both in their primes.

Who would take the win?

If these guys ever fought at lightweight, both in their primes.

Who would take the win?

i love JMM but duran KOs him IMO

i love JMM but duran KOs him IMO

I wouldn't say JMM has a great chin, but he's got a lot of heart.

I wouldn't say JMM has a great chin, but he's got a lot of heart.

yeah, and the way he responds to being hurt, by trading even more, would be no good for him against hands of stone

I wouldn't say JMM has a great chin, but he's got a lot of heart.

Duran, too big and too physical TKO

yeah, and the way he responds to being hurt, by trading even more, would be no good for him against hands of stone

Duran's chin is hardly iron either.

You don't think Marquez might change that tactic if he fought someone like Duran? I mean, Marquez has never been KOed/TKOed - but then again he's never fought someone with power like Duran.

Duran's chin is hardly iron either.

You don't think Marquez might change that tactic if he fought someone like Duran? I mean, Marquez has never been KOed/TKOed - but then again he's never fought someone with power like Duran.

he can change his tactic and adjust midfight very well, but when you're stunned or hurt, its all instinct then and he can't change that at this point in his career...

i just think Duran overwhelms him late....

JMM is my fave, but i dont see him pullin it off.... would be a great fight to attend!!

I'd like to think the outcome of this fight wasn't set in stone.

See what I did there?

:lol1:

Even if it did go the distance, Duran would probably still win on points. I could see Marquez visiting the canvas a couple of times in the mid-rounds...

Prime Duran was a bull. Too strong for JMM.

Roberto Duran held the WBA lightweight championship belt for five years and seven months in which he then unified the title with the WBC lightweight championship when he stopped long time great rival Esteban De Jesus.

Guess how many title defenses Mr Duran made during those long five and a half years?

Guess how many of those title defenses were against ranked contenders?

Marquez goes down too easy, and if this is at lightweight where Juan Diaz rocked Marquez then Duran smokes him within 10. Marquez may have heart but he wouldn't be able to stop Hands of Stone.

i love JMM but ... lets be serious

Vilomar Fernandez was a very good boxer, who outboxed Alexis Arguello comfortably. And Roberto Duran pretty much beat Vilomar Fernandez comfortably, although Vilomar Fernandez was spirited.

Now im not saying Vilomar Fernandez is a better fighter, but he was a very good boxer. And if he couldn't really be effective, against a prime Roberto Duran i don't see how JMM could.

Duran's chin is hardly iron either.

You don't think Marquez might change that tactic if he fought someone like Duran? I mean, Marquez has never been KOed/TKOed - but then again he's never fought someone with power like Duran.

What makes you say that? He was only ever legitimately stopped twice, once by one of the the hardest punchers ever p4p in Hearns and once by Joppy when he was 47. And remember Duran was a natural lightweight.

I'd say Duran had a fantastic chin.

Duran by TKO. Pretty unfair fight if you ask me.

Anyway, bad fight for JMM. Diaz's pressure had him in trouble and Diaz even stunned him a few times. I think Duran stops him in 8 in an entertaining and kind of competitive fight, but in the long run JMM just can't hold up under the pressure Duran continues to bring.

i love JMM but duran KOs him IMO

co-sign. u took was i was gonna say lol

Anyway, bad fight for JMM. Diaz's pressure had him in trouble and Diaz even stunned him a few times. I think Duran stops him in 8 in an entertaining and kind of competitive fight, but in the long run JMM just can't hold up under the pressure Duran continues to bring.

imo, the fight ends earlier than 8. JMM takes a few rounds to adjust to his opponent, but Duran had too much power, so when JMM gets knocked down in the 2nd or 3rd he wont be able to get up to make the necessary adjustments because will be laid out cold. just my opinion tho.

Duran would've been able to get inside and stay inside against Marquez without getting hit by pinpoint counters like Diaz, Duran by knockout.

Marquezzzzzzzzz !!!!!!!!!! He will make ***** duran say ai no mas papi !!!

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Duran would beat the **** outta Marquez with all due respect...

Duran was an animal at LW, JMM has great skills but Duran is too much for him at LW IMO.

Duran, too big and too physical TKO

Duran's chin is hardly iron either.

You don't think Marquez might change that tactic if he fought someone like Duran? I mean, Marquez has never been KOed/TKOed - but then again he's never fought someone with power like Duran.

Both very strange comments. Marquez, while not a big lightweight, didn't measure up too bad against natural LW's in Casamayor and Diaz and Duran wasn't a big lightweight at all. Most of his opponents were bigger than him in fact so the size wouldn't be an advantage for either guy considering they were both 5'7" which is the average height for a lightweight and Marquez has a greater reach than Duran also.

Duran not having an iron chin is one of the most absurd statements made recently though. He was without a doubt one of the most iron chinned fighters of recent times. Rarely ever knocked down, only twice that I can think of, and only stopped by a guy that many consider the hardest right hand puncher of all time in Hearns who also had such a height and reach advantage, as well as being in his prime against a guy that was out of his prime at his best weight (which also happened to be well above Duran's best weight) doesn't really tell the story properly. Duran's chin was pure granite and if you don't know that you don't know much.

Also being stopped when he was reaching fifty at middleweight by Joppy which if you consider that Joppy hadn't even been born when Duran first started fighting professionally isn't much to go by. It was more of an injury than a stoppage too.

Just think about it like this: If Duran wasn't seriously iron chinned he would have, as a natural lightweight who started fighting at 118 pounds, been stopped and knocked out a hell of a lot more after he turned thirty and moved up and above 147 pounds. He fought up to light-heavyweight until he was past fifty, so far past his natural weight and age that the fact he wasn't knocked out consistently during that period shows he had one of the best chins possible. Barkley hit him with some monster shots when he was nearly forty in their brawl and nothing fazed him and Barkley was one of the most brutal middleweight punchers of that era and considering Barkley won titles in three weight divisions and blew out heavyweight champ Coetzee in his last great fight, winning a minor HW title, he could carry that power from 160 to over 200 pounds. Bad chin? :nonono:

manos de piedra would've taken this...

he has had everything JMM has (precise counter-punching & poise) plus solid defense, power & pressure...

like what old gringo said... it is an unfair match-up...

Difficult to say because although id favour Duran i think JMM would have his success's to, because whilst Duran tightened up his D after the first two De Jesus fights he was still a bit wreckless at times and i can see JMM nailing him a few times, plus Marquez can punch so i would not count him out, however i think what would be the difference is Duran's ability to physically man handle JMM. Marquez strikes me as a fighter that does not like to get roughed up on the inside and i think Duran could get him out of that smooth counter punching style, not saying JMM is slick but he does have good concentration when he is counter punching and Duran could disrupt that imo.

JMM does have a shaky chin to so........

Both very strange comments. Marquez, while not a big lightweight, didn't measure up too bad against natural LW's in Casamayor and Diaz and Duran wasn't a big lightweight at all. Most of his opponents were bigger than him in fact so the size wouldn't be an advantage for either guy considering they were both 5'7" which is the average height for a lightweight and Marquez has a greater reach than Duran also.

Duran not having an iron chin is one of the most absurd statements made recently though. He was without a doubt one of the most iron chinned fighters of recent times. Rarely ever knocked down, only twice that I can think of, and only stopped by a guy that many consider the hardest right hand puncher of all time in Hearns who also had such a height and reach advantage, as well as being in his prime against a guy that was out of his prime at his best weight (which also happened to be well above Duran's best weight) doesn't really tell the story properly. Duran's chin was pure granite and if you don't know that you don't know much.

Also being stopped when he was reaching fifty at middleweight by Joppy which if you consider that Joppy hadn't even been born when Duran first started fighting professionally isn't much to go by. It was more of an injury than a stoppage too.

Just think about it like this: If Duran wasn't seriously iron chinned he would have, as a natural lightweight who started fighting at 118 pounds, been stopped and knocked out a hell of a lot more after he turned thirty and moved up and above 147 pounds. He fought up to light-heavyweight until he was past fifty, so far past his natural weight and age that the fact he wasn't knocked out consistently during that period shows he had one of the best chins possible. Barkley hit him with some monster shots when he was nearly forty in their brawl and nothing fazed him and Barkley was one of the most brutal middleweight punchers of that era and considering Barkley won titles in three weight divisions and blew out heavyweight champ Coetzee in his last great fight, winning a minor HW title, he could carry that power from 160 to over 200 pounds. Bad chin? :nonono:

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............154?

............154?

Yeah.....

:dunno:

Duran by TKO, though JMM has a lot of heart so he might be able to lose a decision. Either way it's a bad matchup for JMM.

Duran by TKO, though JMM has a lot of heart so he might be able to lose a decision. Either way it's a bad matchup for JMM.
I agree at 135 its Duran, don't understand why some fighters today are even put P4P with Duran, Marquez has some heart even going on posts here, yes he fought Diaz great stuff but Diazis no Duran but this is top 5 Atg fighter Duran invinsible at 135.
But then again if were a Duran turning pro & Marquez then who knows.

All that really needs to be said is...
OUCH!

Most can figured out the rest.