View Full Version : Who at 140 can beat K tszyu?


brickhouse187
03-04-2005, 01:25 PM
Ibelive either Cotto, Gatti, or Mayweather depending on their styles.

brickhouse187
03-04-2005, 01:26 PM
i meant Believe

FightFan214
03-04-2005, 01:29 PM
I got my money on Pretty Boy

{BrownBomber}
03-04-2005, 01:30 PM
Ibelive either Cotto, Gatti, or Mayweather depending on their styles.

Gatti has no chance,Cotto is to green still. Mayweather has to fight the perfect fight to beat this 140 pound monster. Mayweather has the best chance IMO.

RwK
03-04-2005, 01:32 PM
"Cool" Vince Phillips.

boxernyc
03-04-2005, 01:35 PM
I don't give anyone a great chance. But the best chance is Mayweather. I've never seen Vivian Harris fight though so maybe he has a chance. From what I read here though it doesn't seem likely. Anyone give Vivian a shot?

mic573
03-04-2005, 01:36 PM
The only one I see beating Tszyu is Mayweather and that will be tough.

Ceratogyrus
03-04-2005, 01:45 PM
Gatti - no, too easy for Tszyu to hit with his potent right hand.
Cotto - maybe, if he can stand up to occasional bombs,
Mayweather - yes, easy point wins.

I know I am in a tiny minority of people, but I am confident Hatton will cause an upset. The Mitchell result flatters Kostya, and 3 rounds in 2 years will not prepare him for the torrid pace Hatton will set.
I'm not trying to detract from Tszyu's acheivments, he has had a superb career.

RwK
03-04-2005, 01:50 PM
Gatti - no, too easy for Tszyu to hit with his potent right hand.
Cotto - maybe, if he can stand up to occasional bombs,
Mayweather - yes, easy point wins.

I know I am in a tiny minority of people, but I am confident Hatton will cause an upset. The Mitchell result flatters Kostya, and 3 rounds in 2 years will not prepare him for the torrid pace Hatton will set.
I'm not trying to detract from Tszyu's acheivments, he has had a superb career.

You are the minority in this sense:

people in the states have seen this movie before. This time: its called "Hatton V.S. Tszyu". Collectively, europe as a whole has managed to produce poor fighters and give them tremendous amounts of hype. Hence the coining "*********". Hatton is a good guy and good for the sport of boxing. He does not belong in the ring with Tszyu however; a man of unparalleled superior ability.

Hatton has never been hit by someone like Tszyu, and I most likely doubt he ever will again, after he fights Kostya.

That fight will potentially end Hatton's career, and show exactly why nobody bets against Kostya.

IMO, come on. Everyone seemed to think Mitchell had a shot at beating KT, and he blew him out of the water. He will administer Hatton his first loss, and by knockout.

Hatton was floored by Mcgee. KT punches harder in an armchair.

BBFM
03-04-2005, 01:54 PM
Oscar De La Hoya and Sugar Shane mosley are back at 147 i think the could both have a chance beating him

adrsan84
03-04-2005, 01:55 PM
nobody has a chance, i dont think Zoo will lose any time soon unless he moves up to 147. At 147 i could see him losing to a couple of guys, Maybe. Margarito, DLH and Mosley would have a shot and would all make for great fights but i would never count kostya out. I think Judah doesnt have it in him to beat Kostya and he'd just do the chicken dance again.

BBFM
03-04-2005, 02:03 PM
nobody has a chance, i dont think Zoo will lose any time soon unless he moves up to 147. At 147 i could see him losing to a couple of guys, Maybe. Margarito, DLH and Mosley would have a shot and would all make for great fights but i would never count kostya out. I think Judah doesnt have it in him to beat Kostya and he'd just do the chicken dance again.


WE were just talking about zab haha Hes fast and dodges punches good but i dont know z00 is a beast.

abdiel2k3
03-04-2005, 02:04 PM
i give gatti and mayweather the best chance
cuz they have experience and power
im not to sold on KTs chin
he looked stunned couple times by Mitchell
i just think gatti and floyd could put him in trouble
after seeing cottos last fight
hes just not ready for that kinda opposition

elveiel
03-04-2005, 03:21 PM
You are the minority in this sense:

people in the states have seen this movie before. This time: its called "Hatton V.S. Tszyu". Collectively, europe as a whole has managed to produce poor fighters and give them tremendous amounts of hype. Hence the coining "*********". Hatton is a good guy and good for the sport of boxing. He does not belong in the ring with Tszyu however; a man of unparalleled superior ability.

Hatton has never been hit by someone like Tszyu, and I most likely doubt he ever will again, after he fights Kostya.

That fight will potentially end Hatton's career, and show exactly why nobody bets against Kostya.

IMO, come on. Everyone seemed to think Mitchell had a shot at beating KT, and he blew him out of the water. He will administer Hatton his first loss, and by knockout.

Hatton was floored by Mcgee. KT punches harder in an armchair.

I really hate this ****, why the **** would you make stupid comments about europe in general?? Tszyu is a european you idiot!!

http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~yuana/stupid.gif

*elveiel doesnt normally get this pissed off but i he hates stupid comments about a fighters origin*

deuce_drop
03-04-2005, 05:13 PM
Viv Harris and Mayweather are the only two that i see that can pull out a win on KT......but thats just me

tnf1400
03-04-2005, 06:05 PM
hey, can you guys give me some info about vivian harris. like his nationality,sytle and power. i have never seen this guy fight.i never heard of him until the tszyu mitchel fight.

bigdlb12
03-04-2005, 06:11 PM
no body right now, maybe Phillips again, but not too sure

cornerman
03-04-2005, 06:17 PM
At 140 i only see Mayweather with a chance of beating Tszyu, however at 147 Judah, Mosley and Delahoya would all have a good shot. Even though i am from Manchester i still hold little to no hope for Hatton in the summer.

Marjoh
03-04-2005, 06:36 PM
Gatti have enough power to stun Tszyu, but the problem is can he land some decent punches before Tszyu. He just doesn't have enough defense. Mayweather in the other hand could probably win by points. But can he keep it up for 12 rounds, I don't think.

And Phillips? Isn't he like as old as Hopkins. He beat Tszyu like eight years ago. And Mitchell outboxed him a year after Mitchell got TKO by Tszyu.

jack_the_rippuh
03-04-2005, 06:39 PM
Gatti can probably put up a better fight than people expect against Tszyu, but most likely would end up getting stopped on cuts, or stopped after getting up from a knockdown...
I think a fight with Tszyu would be a big test for Mayweather. As for Cotto....no chance, Cotto doesn't have the chin..

Marjoh
03-04-2005, 06:42 PM
For Cotto to take Tszyu's punches, he would need to to come in at Middleweight.

m00ks
03-04-2005, 07:38 PM
For Cotto to take Tszyu's punches, he would need to to come in at Middleweight.

lol he already does :D

Midastongue
03-04-2005, 09:24 PM
I really think Hatton has a chance. What people don't see is that Hatton is very accurate and has a high punch volume. All of this combined. I think Hatton has a good chance to beat Tzu if he doesn't come in with the right game plan.

Zab Super Judah
03-04-2005, 09:53 PM
my money would be on mayweather or cotto.......honestly I dont think anyone could beat mayweather at 140

jack_the_rippuh
03-04-2005, 10:33 PM
It would be ****ed up if Hatton goes on to beat Tszyu. I don't want him to get the honor of beating Tszyu...not that I have anything against him, but I want to see Tszyu go up to 147 to get beat up..

RwK
03-05-2005, 12:15 AM
Tszyu is a european you idiot!!

Sorry. No he is not.

Cletus Funk
03-05-2005, 03:21 AM
Sorry. No he is not.

WTF :confused: He's a Russian who moved to Australia in 1992.

kadyo
03-05-2005, 04:18 AM
Sorry. No he is not.

Are you saying that russians are not europians? He is a hero in russia dude and living in australia doesn't make him less of a russian.

I don't think hatton has a chance. PBF has a chance but it will surely be a boring fight where floyd will be riding a bicycle on his way to victory.

Famoso Matador
03-05-2005, 04:36 AM
Kostya is a monster. Mayweather might have a chance to beat him because of his speed. But mayweather hasnt found anyone good in a while. Dont think hatton has much of a chance either, he hasnt fought any world class boxers. The match i would like to see is hatton against witter.

Ceratogyrus
03-06-2005, 02:25 PM
Hatton is a good guy and good for the sport of boxing. He does not belong in the ring with Tszyu however

Hatton won every round against Vince Philips and Ben Tackie. In which way does he not belong in the ring with Tszyu.

Collectively, europe as a whole has managed to produce poor fighters and give them tremendous amounts of hype. Hence the coining "*********".

I don't like the term "*********". Vitali is dominant, Naz beat every american he fought, Sturm "beat" De La Hoya.
I rarely go out on a limb, and even more rarley pick an underdog but I am confident this time. I look forward to the fight.

juicyjoo
03-06-2005, 02:26 PM
They have chances....but I think Tzysu would be favoured over all three.

SuckaPunch
03-06-2005, 02:31 PM
There's no question, Mayweather has the best chance of beating Tszyu(although if this happens, I'll still be rooting at Tszyu). Hell, without exaggeration, Mayweather will make the best fighters look stupid when they fight him, even at welterweights.

Simone
03-06-2005, 03:17 PM
No one in 140 can beat Kostya now. Maybe in two years.

Mayweather has some chances because of his speed and ring generalship, but Cotto or Gatti... if you press KT you will be KOd.

.::EnRiQuE::.
03-06-2005, 03:24 PM
No one in 140 can beat Kostya now. Maybe in two years.

Mayweather has some chances because of his speed and ring generalship, but Cotto or Gatti... if you press KT you will be KOd.
yea, ur credible seeing how ur avatar is kostya tszyu. i think mayweather would beat KT, cotto could come close but he's still too young to put in with the big dogs. right now if mayweather fought kostya, i'd see mayweather winning wit movement and coming in with lead rights and hooks to confuse kostya.

davico
03-06-2005, 04:15 PM
yea, ur credible seeing how ur avatar is kostya tszyu. i think mayweather would beat KT, cotto could come close but he's still too young to put in with the big dogs. right now if mayweather fought kostya, i'd see mayweather winning wit movement and coming in with lead rights and hooks to confuse kostya.

And after Cotto's last fight and your avatar your REAL credible. Give me a break. What's your top 2 p4p ? Trinidad, Cotto? People in glass houses should not throw stones. :rolleyes:

IwatchBoxing
03-06-2005, 04:21 PM
Kostya Tyszu is being overhyped, Mayweather, Cotto, and yes even Gatti can beat him, with Gatti having the lesser chance of the two, he is not that great, he can be beat, he will be beat, actually I'am pulling for Hatton to KO his ass.

RwK
03-06-2005, 04:27 PM
Kostya Tyszu is being overhyped

I suppose beating:

Mitchell, Leija, Tackie, Judah, Urkal, JCC, Gonzales, Ruelas, and Pineda makes you overrated.

what a joke.

Floydmayweather
03-06-2005, 05:00 PM
Mayweather can beat Zoo but he is in for one hell of a fight.

oldgringo
03-06-2005, 05:08 PM
Cotto and Mayweather have the best chance...Vivian Harris has a punchers chance.

Moon
03-06-2005, 05:58 PM
Tszyu is a european you idiot!!

*elveiel doesnt normally get this pissed off but he hates stupid comments about a fighters origin*
Kostya is Asian.
Kazikstan seems to be abit too far east to be Europe, no?

RwK
03-06-2005, 06:01 PM
Europe is tad bit east of Khazikstan, no?

yeah.

I dont know where this europe talk came from. Thats absurd.

NAB
03-06-2005, 06:23 PM
Tszyu is 1/4 Korean, 3/4 Russian. Whatever that means. Eurasian?!

RwK
03-06-2005, 06:26 PM
Tszyu is 1/4 Korean, 3/4 Russian. Whatever that means. Eurasian?!

That means he is Asian.

He is actually Australian. That is his home.

Tha Greatest
03-06-2005, 06:28 PM
who cares what KT is...
if you think Cotto has a chance to beat him, you gotta be crazy, from his last fight he was just slugging Corley, if he tries to fight that same fight with Tszyu, he's gonna drop...if he learned from that he will still drop at this time in his career...Mayweather has the best chance, then Harris/gatti...

elveiel
03-06-2005, 06:44 PM
Hatton has the best chance of beating him, he's the only one getting the chance before he goes to 147 :D

davico
03-06-2005, 06:51 PM
Hatton has the best chance of beating him, he's the only one getting the chance before he goes to 147 :D

Exactly right. Still I don't think he will beat him. :D

RwK
03-06-2005, 06:53 PM
Hatton's weight may give him trouble for this fight. He looks out of shape.

davico
03-06-2005, 06:58 PM
Hatton's weight may give him trouble for this fight. He looks out of shape.

Both him and KT blow up between fights so I don't think it will affect either. It may affect Hatton later on in his carreer tho.

Moon
03-06-2005, 07:14 PM
That means he is Asian.

He is actually Australian. That is his home.
Actually, Kostya is Asian. He was born and raised in Asia. Specifically, he was born and raised in the Russian city of Serov, which is east of the Ural Mountain range. The Urals are the boundary of Europe and Asia.

jason power
03-07-2005, 04:41 AM
simple answer NOBODY at 140

masterdirector
03-07-2005, 04:56 AM
Gatti won't, that's for sure.

Mayweather beats Tszyu's ass easily. Only way I really see Hatton beating Tszyu is if Hatton's aggression overwhelms Kostya. Just look at Verno Philips. Look at anybody that has given Tszyu problems. He gets in trouble if guys can smother him with punches. That seems almost redundant to say because duh of course most people would get in trouble if they're smothered with punches.

Still, Tszyu should win easily. I think Mitchell is still a lot better than Hatton and I still can't get over the fact that Mitchell instantly turned to **** once he got in there with Tszyu. It isn't so much that Tszyu is all that good, it is just that he has that reverse Midas touch.

michael_Q
03-07-2005, 06:18 AM
i think the only boxer at 140 that has a chance of stopping Tszyu's reign is Floyd. but that's just a chance. at this point i think Tszyu's the toughest at 140. forget about Gatti. he's just a market for boxing and nothing more. he can punch but he's not making tough fights.

masterdirector
03-07-2005, 06:27 AM
Okay damn I meant Vince, not Verno Phillips. Sleep deprivation is ****ing with my head. I don't even know if there is a Verno, except for that 154 bum who I told everybody Ouma would beat.

Yeah Tszyu isn't very easy to beat at 140 right now. I personally want Zab to get the rematch after Tszyu beats Hatton. I have all the confidence in the world that Zab stops Tszyu in the rematch. That first one was stopped way too early.

Cletus Funk
03-07-2005, 06:28 AM
Actually, Kostya is Asian. He was born and raised in Asia. Specifically, he was born and raised in the Russian city of Serov, which is east of the Ural Mountain range. The Urals are the boundary of Europe and Asia.

He wasn't Asian amateur champion though, he was twice European amateur champion so we're claiming him. :)

masterdirector
03-07-2005, 06:29 AM
uhh...you can have him. I don't want him. I'm more than content with Mayweather.

Cletus Funk
03-07-2005, 06:42 AM
uhh...you can have him. I don't want him. I'm more than content with Mayweather.

I'm happy for you. I'd take Tszyu over PBF any day.

Invader_Stu
03-07-2005, 06:54 AM
I personally want Zab to get the rematch after Tszyu beats Hatton. I have all the confidence in the world that Zab stops Tszyu in the rematch. That first one was stopped way too early.

Note to Boxing Fans: Fighters cannot continue when they are doing the chicken dance! Seriously, sure 10-15 seconds after he fell over and stopped dancing, he might have been 'ok' - this is the same for most fight stoppages. But for that time period, would you have your boxer stand in front of a punching monster? That is when you get KTFO again and end up with brain damage. Of course the fight should have been stopped.

Yet I am interested in the rematch too, I think Zab was a little ****y coming in, but you know he would be more careful this time.

Edit: I agree with Elveiel - the one with the best chance is Hatton - merely because he is fighting Tszyu. Its a shame, but networks have prevented the chance of Tszyu/Mayweather.

bundy23
03-07-2005, 07:02 AM
The chicken dance is my favourite moment ever in boxing. i wish Nady had let him continue so Kostya could've given the arogant little tosser brain damage...

masterdirector
03-07-2005, 07:03 AM
You're wrong. I saw the Zab vs. Tszyu fight live and I've seen it so many times I've it memorized, and I have it on my computer. Download it. Watch it.

Watch that clock real closely and watch Zab. He is absolutely fine by the count of 6. Completely fine and not even given a chance to continue.

Nady is very inconsistent as a ref. Watch the first round of Trinidad vs. Vargas. Tell me I'm wrong. Vargas was in A HELL OF A LOT more trouble than Judah has ever been. Nady let that fight go 12 rounds.

That ****** Nady got off easy as far as I'm concerned. He ****s Judah out of getting to continue and Zab is the one that gets fined? For what? Pushing Nady? That's bull****. Refs get away with robbery and NEVER get punished. So the only way to deal with ****ers like that is to punish them yourself. I'd love to slit Nady's throat. Wouldn't shoot him, knives are more personal. Open up that jugular. That'd teach him.

Russian
03-07-2005, 10:36 AM
The chicken dance is my favourite moment ever in boxing. i wish Nady had let him continue so Kostya could've given the arogant little tosser brain damage...
Yes, I like to watch this moment too :-)

I saw the Zab vs. Tszyu fight live and I've seen it so many times I've it memorized, and I have it on my computer. Download it. Watch it.
I have this fight too, Judah was great in first round (excellent uppercut, yeah), but it seems to me that in round two Zab was sort of static decoration on Kostya`s boxing show, have you forgotten "what a big right hand from Tszyuuuu!" :-)

Actually, Kostya is Asian. He was born and raised in Asia. Specifically, he was born and raised in the Russian city of Serov, which is east of the Ural Mountain range. The Urals are the boundary of Europe and Asia.
Actually in my former university in my group was man with black skin, in USA he would be "afro-american" (tell me if I am wrong here, I'm really dont know), but he himself told me that he is "russian". So, there is no error to claim that Kostya is russian.

The Urals are the boundary of Europe and Asia.
But NOT the boundary of the east and west half parts of Russia.

Russian
03-07-2005, 10:45 AM
Mayweather beats Tszyu's ass easily.
I doubt to forecast this fight (Mayweather vs Tszyu), but you really certain that "Mayweather beats Tzsyu easily"?

elveiel
03-07-2005, 11:43 AM
I doubt to forecast this fight (Mayweather vs Tszyu), but you really certain that "Mayweather beats Tzsyu easily"?

I agree, Tszyu would give Mayweather hell, his skills and power would cause anyone problems.

IMO Tszyu KO's Mayweather.

fight fan
03-07-2005, 01:04 PM
Watch that clock real closely and watch Zab. He is absolutely fine by the count of 6. Completely fine and not even given a chance to continue.

Judah went down twice from 1 punch!!! He couldn't keep his balance!!! That is what Nady saw!!! I don't care if it was a count of 6, 7, 9, 150....................... After a knockdown the frirst thing a ref does is ask the fighter to walk to him. Nady didn't even get that chance, Zab fell again. It was a good call!!!!

Nady is very inconsistent as a ref. Watch the first round of Trinidad vs. Vargas. Tell me I'm wrong. Vargas was in A HELL OF A LOT more trouble than Judah has ever been. Nady let that fight go 12 rounds.

Vargas was in more trouble than Zab????? Vargas didn't fall 2 times from 1 single punch!!!

That ****** Nady got off easy as far as I'm concerned. He ****s Judah out of getting to continue and Zab is the one that gets fined? For what? Pushing Nady? That's bull****. Refs get away with robbery and NEVER get punished. So the only way to deal with ****ers like that is to punish them yourself. I'd love to slit Nady's throat. Wouldn't shoot him, knives are more personal. Open up that jugular. That'd teach him.

Nady stopped the fight for Judah's safety!!! Your actually, seiously, questioning why Judah was fined??? You are the expert with every version of the fight including on your computer! Watch carefully as Judah throws a stool into a crowd of people!!!!!!!!! Yeah that may be it!!!!!!!!!!

fight fan
03-07-2005, 01:23 PM
Actually, Kostya is Asian. He was born and raised in Asia. Specifically, he was born and raised in the Russian city of Serov, which is east of the Ural Mountain range. The Urals are the boundary of Europe and Asia.

Serov is a Russian city!! Kostya Tzsyu was born and raised in Russia!! Kostya Tszyu won a gold medal for Russia!! Whats the problem!! He is Russian!! He now lives in Austrailia and is proud to be an Austrailian citizen, but his heritage is still Russian!!

Crouching Tiger
03-07-2005, 01:31 PM
A totally focused Mayweather (without the legal distractions) has the best chance.

guru
03-07-2005, 03:03 PM
i think floyd and harris have the best chances, but i'd still make zoo the fav

Moon
03-07-2005, 04:31 PM
You're wrong. I saw the Zab vs. Tszyu fight live and I've seen it so many times I've it memorized, and I have it on my computer. Download it. Watch it.
Watch that clock real closely and watch Zab. He is absolutely fine by the count of 6. Completely fine and not even given a chance to continue.
I've watched it many times and I see the same thing each time. The story has nothing to do with the clock, it has everything to do with Zab messin'-up.

When Zab first got up (sort of) why was he waiving his glove at Nady? Maybe to say "I'm gonna' fall down again Nady, but don't let that fool ya', I'm still good to go"? If you ask Zab today what he said, he'd have no memory of that incident 'cause he was in trouble. Zab should have stayed down until he heard Nady say "nine". It's that simple. Nady did what any ref should have done when a fighter has been KD'd and gets up before ten but falls down again. It's a sign the guy is out-on-his-feet and it's a stoppage clean and simple. Whenever a guy gets up from the deck and hits the deck right away, it's all over, every time.

Moon
03-07-2005, 04:32 PM
Serov is a Russian city!! Kostya Tzsyu was born and raised in Russia!! Kostya Tszyu won a gold medal for Russia!! Whats the problem!! He is Russian!! He now lives in Austrailia and is proud to be an Austrailian citizen, but his heritage is still Russian!!
You're correct. And, there's no problem.

m00ks
03-07-2005, 06:41 PM
You're wrong. I saw the Zab vs. Tszyu fight live and I've seen it so many times I've it memorized, and I have it on my computer. Download it. Watch it.

Watch that clock real closely and watch Zab. He is absolutely fine by the count of 6. Completely fine and not even given a chance to continue.

Nady is very inconsistent as a ref. Watch the first round of Trinidad vs. Vargas. Tell me I'm wrong. Vargas was in A HELL OF A LOT more trouble than Judah has ever been. Nady let that fight go 12 rounds.

That ****** Nady got off easy as far as I'm concerned. He ****s Judah out of getting to continue and Zab is the one that gets fined? For what? Pushing Nady? That's bull****. Refs get away with robbery and NEVER get punished. So the only way to deal with ****ers like that is to punish them yourself. I'd love to slit Nady's throat. Wouldn't shoot him, knives are more personal. Open up that jugular. That'd teach him.

It's a rule I heard that after getting up from a knockdown and you stumble and your glove touches the canvas again ref has to call it. I might be wrong.

Sister Sledge
03-07-2005, 06:54 PM
hey, can you guys give me some info about vivian harris. like his nationality,sytle and power. i have never seen this guy fight.i never heard of him until the tszyu mitchel fight.

Harris is a very good fighter. He's a big hitter who has become more technically sound as the years have gone by. When I first saw him, he was very robotic, and all he through were power punches. In the Urkal fights, he showed that he actually has a lot of boxing skill, and has also shown that he can knock out a guy with a granite chin. He's being trained by Emannual Steward now, so his jab is much better now, and he's become more of a boxer/puncher and has become even more dangerous. He punches very well to the body, but he if he has his opponent hurt, he tends to headhunt. He has become less robotic. He has a very good chin.

I think Vivian has a great chance to beat KT. No one wants to fight him because he is too dangerous. He's could possibly be a great fighter. All he needs is a chance. With that being said, I don't think KT will fight him.

tnom
03-07-2005, 06:58 PM
I agree that Hatton has little chance. That chin simply hasn't been tested by the likes of Tszyu's right.
I do believe, however, that the same argument bodes well for Gatti. There is no question he can take a punch. Gatti-Tszyu is the card I'm dreaming of. Tszyu would be pushed beyond a coupla rounds. As big a fan of Gatti's as I am though, I think Tszyu is simply too cool-headed to lose to anyone at 140 right now. He's a tactician as well as a fighter, and that's a pretty unbeatable combo.

elveiel
03-08-2005, 12:24 PM
I agree that Hatton has little chance. That chin simply hasn't been tested by the likes of Tszyu's right.
I do believe, however, that the same argument bodes well for Gatti. There is no question he can take a punch. Gatti-Tszyu is the card I'm dreaming of. Tszyu would be pushed beyond a coupla rounds. As big a fan of Gatti's as I am though, I think Tszyu is simply too cool-headed to lose to anyone at 140 right now. He's a tactician as well as a fighter, and that's a pretty unbeatable combo.

Gatti's been hurt a lot, he's been KO'd a few times and there's a very good Tszyu would do the same to him, especially when you consider that Tszyu would be the hardest punchers he's faced.

Nobody can doubt Hatton's chin, he's had it tested against hard punchers and had no problems. I'm not sure if he can take Tszyu's power but that guys a freak, there's no shame in getting KO'd by him.

NAB
03-08-2005, 06:16 PM
"I think Vivian has a great chance to beat KT. No one wants to fight him because he is too dangerous. He's could possibly be a great fighter. All he needs is a chance. With that being said, I don't think KT will fight him"

One thing about Tszyu - he doesn't really duck anyone.

masterdirector
03-09-2005, 12:49 AM
Judah didn't go down twice from one punch. Quit spitting off the same cliches you've seen time and again from so-called boxing experts, you mark.

Judah went down once from the punch but popped up too early. That isn't going down twice from one punch. And say Judah went down 20 times from one punch, so what? As long as he was up in time and had his wits about him to continue, he should have been allowed to do so.

I refer you to Vargas vs. Trinidad. JMM vs. Pacquiao. Both of those fights could've easily been stopped, and should have, in the first round. Both fighters were allowed to continue. And Nady reffed the Vargas vs. Tito match.

Judah was up by the count of six and was absolutely fine. Only Judah haters or die hard Tyszu fans (basically the same thing) say any different. Just watch the video.

masterdirector
03-09-2005, 12:49 AM
Why does it say I have over 1000 posts now?

NAB
03-09-2005, 01:21 AM
It's funny, I swear I saw Judah get hit, go down, get up & go down again. To me, that's going down twice from the same punch.

I watched the fight yesterday & if Jay Nady hadn't grabbed Judah, he might have gone down a third time.

RUDDY
03-09-2005, 05:54 AM
I think Mayweather and Hatton, maybe harris to, but not really seen enough of him yet to get a better opinion.

masterdirector
03-09-2005, 07:53 AM
Jay Nady wasn't holding Judah up you dumb ****. Damn all you have to do is look at the TV screen. Judah is perfectly fine and able to continue. Oh my God, you're ****ing gay.

moochi
03-09-2005, 11:35 AM
with Tszyu approaching 36 I can't see him improving. so if any boxer wants a best shot, there chances will only get higher.

NAB
03-09-2005, 06:42 PM
Jay Nady wasn't holding Judah up you dumb ****. Damn all you have to do is look at the TV screen. Judah is perfectly fine and able to continue. Oh my God, you're ****ing gay.

Relax, mate. Go have a headache tablet & a nap. You're the one who said he didn't go down twice from the same punch. You go look at the screen.

NAB
03-09-2005, 06:47 PM
By the way, have a look at where Judah was at the count of six. He was trying to get it on with the canvas!! Nike must have known something when they put the swoosh on the bottom of his shoes!

davico
03-09-2005, 07:12 PM
Judah didn't go down twice from one punch. Quit spitting off the same cliches you've seen time and again from so-called boxing experts, you mark.

http://www.worldofboxing.com.au/video/tszyubaby1.mov

Have another look mate! This time with your eyes open :D

bobbyjones
03-09-2005, 07:25 PM
I really hate this ****, why the **** would you make stupid comments about europe in general?? Tszyu is a european you idiot!!

http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~yuana/stupid.gif

*elveiel doesnt normally get this pissed off but i he hates stupid comments about a fighters origin*

well technically hes asian since he is from Russia, but none the less you are right about those blanket statements.

Moon
03-10-2005, 08:03 PM
http://www.worldofboxing.com.au/video/tszyubaby1.mov

Have another look mate! This time with your eyes open :D

It looks like Nady was holding Judah up, by holding his gloves. So, I'd say it would have been three times he hit the canvas!

Moon
03-10-2005, 08:04 PM
well technically hes asian since he is from Russia, but none the less you are right about those blanket statements.
Russia is within both Europe and Asia.

phallus
03-10-2005, 09:12 PM
It would be ****ed up if Hatton goes on to beat Tszyu. I don't want him to get the honor of beating Tszyu...not that I have anything against him, but I want to see Tszyu go up to 147 to get beat up..


i don't think anyone is strong enough to beat Tszyu up at 140 or even at 147. the guy comes into his fights as a junior middleweight. i give mayweather the best chance to outbox KT though, if he can make it through 12 rounds without getting caught. i'd like to see Kostya move up to 147 though, and face margarito - that'd be a great fight to see - two big bangers.

Moon
03-11-2005, 03:47 PM
i don't think anyone is strong enough to beat Tszyu up at 140 or even at 147.
Beeatch ... just took another look at Hatton-Stewart fight. I realize you can't simply replace Stewart with Kostya and expect that Hatton would fight the same fight, but, if Hatton figures he might actually get Kostya to lay back on the ropes and let Hatton pop him, well, it ain't gonna' happen.

I like watching Hatton fight because he's focused and always ready to rumble. But, I also don't see anything that Hatton does, or brings to the ring, that hasn't been in the ring with Kostya before. On June 4, Hatton has a puncher's chance and some pretty good chin and that's it. That might be enough, but I expect Kostya will "show up" and take care of business. Hatton has not been in the ring with anybody that can bang like Kostya. Hatton will figure this out very early in the fight. He'll be game as always, but totally outgunned.