LOL at Mir ducking a washed up Randy Couture. Frank Mir should have a lobotomy cause his brain is pretty messed up..He's the Phil Baroni of the HW divsion

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wouldnt mind seing fedor beat the **** out of mir

Mir is seriously delirious with that Nog Win, I dont even think he could beat Lil Nog, even with the "ko" Nog wasnt even completely out he always looks like that when he gets dropped. Mir looked much more terrible gettin his a$$ handed to him by Brock all while makin his first fight look like a complete fluke.

Lil Nog would put Mir on his back for a long time.

Frank Mir is a queerbo who thinks he's some worldclass striker because stopped Nog. The Rock doesn't care for Brock but I was happy to see that summama***** beat the **** outta Frank. Frank is an overratted **** talker.

I like Mir's attitude and nobody can really argue with what he's saying.

He talked all that **** about Brock, even saying he hits like a little girl (meaning the short punches when he had him down)

And then at fight-time Mir shows up in probably his best condition ever, looking scared and getting smashed to a pulp by the beast that is Brock Lesnar.

As for a Couture-Mir fight, I think Couture would have a very good chance to win, because his only big disadvantage is his chin and Mir doesn't really knock ppl out. It would probably go to the clinch+ground and wrestling ability would make the difference, Randy would win a decision I believe.

If I was a UFC matchmaker I'd make this fight happen, to make Randy look good against Mir :la:

Brock Lesnar was right to humiliate him like the garbage he is. Frank Mir with his pizza face, was **** scared of Lesnar and didn't even want to answer to him. Ken Shamrock, when Tito insulted him, didn't let the kid talk his ****. Same thing for Tank Abbott.

Frank Mir should disappear and not come back coz he's an overrated hypejob and an arrogant fighter. He's now labelled as Brock Lesnar's official *****.

The jabroni clowned Brock for lifting weights, then a few days after getting the **** beat out of him he says he wants to start lifting weights because he underestimated Brock's size. What an ass-clown. The guy got ****ed up by Brandon Vera for crying out loud!

mir is a prick, that why i wasnt to assed when lesnar screamed at him after he had just beatin his ass!

I like Mir's attitude and nobody can really argue with what he's saying.

I can argue with what anyone says. Mir is a douche, and Fedor would knock him dead. Not just ref stoppage, but knock him dead. Why isn't Mir at Striking Unlimited or welcome at SU anymore? Oh yeah, because he's a monumental douche, that's why. Creonte.

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I can argue with what anyone says. Mir is a douche, and Fedor would knock him dead. Not just ref stoppage, but knock him dead. Why isn't Mir at Striking Unlimited or welcome at SU anymore? Oh yeah, because he's a monumental douche, that's why. Creonte.

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Well said.

Fedor-Mir would be borderline criminal.

But I do want to add that Frank Mir, as arrogant as he sounds is a talent. Even tho Nog looked terrible cuz of injury no one can really deny that Mir's hands looked improved and he does have a good ground game.

I think a BJJ practitioner like DeltaSigChi4 can let you know that you must have a sick ground game if you can submit Roberto Traven.

He does have some skills but his blabbering is gonna make people forget his skills and magnify the fact that aside from Slyvia, an almost dead Nog, and a fluke over Brock, his resume is pretty trash for someone that is ranked so highly (how the hell is he ranked top 3 in some websites??)

He is ranked highly because at least he's in the UFC with the big boys, not in some cheap-ass borderline bankrupt promotion (poor fedor, *wink* *wink*)

And not in Japan !

I can argue with what anyone says. Mir is a douche, and Fedor would knock him dead. Not just ref stoppage, but knock him dead. Why isn't Mir at Striking Unlimited or welcome at SU anymore? Oh yeah, because he's a monumental douche, that's why. Creonte.

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You haven't really done a great job of arguing against the points Mir made though, have you?

He is ranked highly because at least he's in the UFC with the big boys, not in some cheap-ass borderline bankrupt promotion (poor fedor, *wink* *wink*)

And not in Japan !
He's ranked highly because he is in the UFC, which is captain of the hype machine.

I dont like this guy, he has a real attitude problem and has been overrated for years. He got lucky in the first fight with Brock and looked good against the worst Nog we have ever seen. I think he was finnished after the accident.

But to be fair listening to his comments i dont think they were too bad, the Randy thing was a bit lame , he never said Fedor was garbage or anything like that, he just stated that he should be in the UFC (like most of us would like to see) and indicated its a management thing that is letting him down.

He doesnt like Joe Rogan much by the sound of things, he had a few digs in his direction.

Other than the Randy statement everything he said there made sense. Frank's jus keepin real right there. You don't have to guard Fedor's throne every time somebody says he's anything but god. If Fedor wants to gaurd his throne he'll go to the UFC and do it.

I personally could do without Strikeforce, IFL, and KOG when it comes to top level competition I think they all should play for the same league. I think most of you know UFC's got the best shows right now, everything about their shows are just better.

Strikeforce eliminates only enough possibilities to be extremely annoying.

The Big Boys want Fedor to come out and play !!!

Other than the Randy statement everything he said there made sense. Frank's jus keepin real right there. You don't have to guard Fedor's throne every time somebody says he's anything but god. If Fedor wants to gaurd his throne he'll go to the UFC and do it.

I personally could do without Strikeforce, IFL, and KOG when it comes to top level competition I think they all should play for the same league. I think most of you know UFC's got the best shows right now, everything about their shows are just better.

Strikeforce eliminates only enough possibilities to be extremely annoying.

The Big Boys want Fedor to come out and play !!!
Fedor would go to the UFC if/when it made sense to do so. So far it doesn't.

Can you explain why or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing ?

Competition is good, money is good, recognition is good.

Can you explain why or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing ?

Competition is good, money is good, recognition is good.
It's about business. If you don't understand that, you wouldn't understand.

Yeah, I'm a fan, I don't really understand business, but I guess it has to do with M1 Global crap :poke:

he looks like that dude who lost badly to lesnar.

Yeah, I'm a fan, I don't really understand business, but I guess it has to do with M1 Global crap :poke:

Fedor is basically his own promotion at this point. It's a sad state of affairs currently with the us-against-them mentality between the UFC and non-UFC, however I think there is significant talent coming up outside of the UFC right now. Mousasi may be the second best LHW in the world, and Muhammed Lawal is a phenomenal fighter, after only 5 fights (and he just came off of ACL reconstructive surgery, so he'll soon be back in full force). Lawal is on record that he intends to remain independent, and not be bound into an exclusive contract.

The UFC has long been the 500 pound gorilla in the room, however Strikeforce is actually the real deal. They did not just arise from nowhere, as was the case with Affliction and EliteXC.

In addition, M-1 is utilizing a partnership with Strikeforce, so that M-1 is able to utilize the platform which Strikeforce provides. As such, the signings of high-profile fighters Emelianenko and Mousasi cannot be viewed in such a light as that they are draining resources from Strikeforce (hence the $5000 reported purse for Mousasi's last fight).

Also, it is significant to note that while Fedor enjoys a cult following in the West, he is a well established figure in the East. In this way, M-1 Global, it seems, is able to capitalize on this international appeal of Fedor, etc. as well.

Fedor would go to the UFC if/when it made sense to do so. So far it doesn't.

It does make sense, to suggest there is anything better about the deal with Strikeforce is absurd.

It does make sense, to suggest there is anything better about the deal with Strikeforce is absurd.
Read above.

Read above.

I have and it sounds rather like propaganda. Using three fighters, one of them yet to have a meaningful fight, as examples of the wealth of talent outwith UFC is denial in the extreme. Likewise, repeating myths like "Fedor is big in the rest of the world" doesn't really carry much weight. It is entirely possible to maintain respect for Fedor while criticisng his decision to sign for Strikeforce.

I have and it sounds rather like propaganda. Using three fighters, one of them yet to have a meaningful fight, as examples of the wealth of talent outwith UFC is denial in the extreme. Likewise, repeating myths like "Fedor is big in the rest of the world" doesn't really carry much weight. It is entirely possible to maintain respect for Fedor while criticisng his decision to sign for Strikeforce.

Then I refer you to this one:
It's about business. If you don't understand that, you wouldn't understand.

Seriously, I get tired of arguing the same **** over and over on here.

I have and it sounds rather like propaganda. Using three fighters, one of them yet to have a meaningful fight, as examples of the wealth of talent outwith UFC is denial in the extreme. Likewise, repeating myths like "Fedor is big in the rest of the world" doesn't really carry much weight. It is entirely possible to maintain respect for Fedor while criticisng his decision to sign for Strikeforce.

It is not a myth it is a fact, and I didn't merely repeat it, I mentioned it as an afterthought.

And I didn't explain my reasoning in full, however judging by your response I don't think we can have a meaningful discussion here.

Seriously, I get tired of arguing the same **** over and over on here.

Less money, less exposure for M1 - explain to me the business sense in that?

It is not a myth it is a fact, and I didn't merely repeat it, I mentioned it as an afterthought.

And I didn't explain my reasoning in full, however judging by your response I don't think we can have a meaningful discussion here.

No neither do I because you're an apologist for Fedor.

Can you guys explain o me what competition is there in the UFC for Fedor??

He has ran through everybody!! Before it was Fedor/Randy Fedor/Randy, now since Randy got trounced its Fedor/Brock Fedor/Brock!!

Carwin, Velazquez, Dos Santos are basiclly like fighting Brett Rodgers cuz they are talented up and comers who really only have one name fighter on their record.

Fedor has to fight Carwin whos biggest win is against Gonzaga who falters whenever he steps up anyways?? He has to fight Velazquez whos biggest win was against Cheick Kongo who rocked Cain whenever they stood up??? As much as I like him does Fedor have to fight Dos Santos whos biggest win is against Werdum who Fedor is gonna eventually meet??

These are talented guys with resumes no where near Fedors. He ran through Sylvia who was champ and beat a lot of guys in the UFC, he ran through Arlovski who ran through opponents in the UFC and who crushed Roy Nelson and Ben Rothwell who are both now in the UFC.

Aside from Brock (who needs to fight Nog anyways imo) Fedors already taken care of business cuz Pride had the best HW's.

IMO mousasi is the one who needs to go to the UFC cuz while Fedor beat all the top HW's before they went to the UFC, all the top middleweights and lhw's were already and still are in the UFC

I wonder how much influence both Mir and Carwin have had from Dana to bait Fedor.....

I bet hepaid them to say this ****. To me this seems way out of character for Carwin, and Mir will say anything to blag a fight.

LOL Fedor would kill Mir

Carwin, Velasquez, Junior, Lesnar>>>>>Overeem, Werdum and Brett

Overeem is Fedor's biggest threat at Strikeforce

Brett hasn't shown anything resembling a solid Grappling game and Fedor will sub him in seconds

Werdum's striking still needs a lot of work

Carwin, Velasquez, Junior, Lesnar>>>>>Overeem, Werdum and Brett

Overeem is Fedor's biggest threat at Strikeforce

Brett hasn't shown anything resembling a solid Grappling game and Fedor will sub him in seconds

Werdum's striking still needs a lot of work

Cain's striking isnt too hot neither Kongo chipped him up standing til he was taken down, Carwin has power but we all kno about Fedor's chin, Fedor has nothing left to prove in my opinion, i want him in the ufc but not gonna cry about it, like i sed before, Mousasi is the one in my opinion who needs to come to the UFC and show he's for real at 205

Cain's striking isnt too hot neither Kongo chipped him up standing til he was taken down, Carwin has power but we all kno about Fedor's chin, Fedor has nothing left to prove in my opinion, i want him in the ufc but not gonna cry about it, like i sed before, Mousasi is the one in my opinion who needs to come to the UFC and show he's for real at 205

It's not about an individual skill, it's about the fighter as an overall package

Cain isn't half the striker Kongo is, but overall a much better fighter

The UFC has better overall fighters to give than Strikeforce does, im not crying about it, im just saying Fedor could have done better

It's not about an individual skill, it's about the fighter as an overall package

Cain isn't half the striker Kongo is, but overall a much better fighter

The UFC has better overall fighters to give than Strikeforce does, im not crying about it, im just saying Fedor could have done better

I can agree with that