View Full Version : How much does power have to do with a knockout/knockdown?


FIGHTING_FLIP
09-01-2009, 02:58 AM
i dont think power is as important to ko/kd as much as people think..i think speed is what causes knockout/downs..what do you think?

Equilibrium
09-01-2009, 03:43 AM
Well there are different type of knock downs. A lot of the time a person gets knocked out/down by a punch they don't see coming, in that case, yes speed is important, and a person that doesn't have 1 punch knock out power can still score knock outs with speed and accuracy.


But i think that true power is always better. You know, the kind of puncher that can hurt somebody with a glancing blow. I think that power always comes with speed, i have never seen somebody who can punch hard being ultra slow.

Technically the physics equation to power is "mass x velocity", so in theory it means that a guy who is very light but can devellop high velocity in his punches could be a hard puncher.

This is where i get lost though, there are guy who are very fast who still punch like *****es.

FIGHTING_FLIP
09-01-2009, 05:05 AM
i think getting knocked out or down is a state of mind...look at tyson or foreman. those are scary looking mother ****ers. you would be scared to get hit by them just by looking at them. and having that in your head is probably gonna make there punches a whole lot more.

Big Idiot
09-01-2009, 05:19 AM
hmm look at ali and his phantom punch it was fast and hard but he hit a certain point on the body

Boxing1986
09-01-2009, 06:11 AM
This is where i get lost though, there are guy who are very fast who still punch like *****es.

Exhibit A - Amir Khan...

tennesseeboy
09-01-2009, 03:43 PM
power has alot to do with it, but like tyson said in his documentary... its the accuracy and the precision of that punch that makes the strength of that punch ten times harder.. learned that from cus d'amato

TheNegation
09-01-2009, 04:09 PM
I think it's more or less where the punch lands than how hard one hits

Dynamite Glove
09-01-2009, 04:33 PM
Of course speed and power are what causes any kind of equilibrium disrupting damage to a person inside a boxing ring. However, that is only 50% of the equation, the other 50% is the other person making the mistake of letting you hit them.

Any kind of way you can imagine a guy getting knocked out, it's happened. But, as stated above, it's carelessness that normally gets people hurt...Like, if a guy starts landing some good shots and the other one covers up, and the other guy keeps throwing...keeps throwing...not knowing the guy covering up is timing him...bang..

g0tcha
09-01-2009, 06:18 PM
i think its a combination of both and it also depends on what kind of knockdown/knockout it is. If you punch someone right on the jaw with pinpoint accuracy it would take an astounding amount of power to put them out or down on their ass. If you hit them flush on the forehead or the temple it would take more power to put them down by causing the brain to shake in the skull. If you cant produce enough power to cause the person brain to bounce back and forth from hitting those 2 spots then they wont go out or down. take a look at foreman. he was the quickest puncher but all would agree he had hands of stone. Ali was so accurate and fast but he didnt really put fighters down with just 1 punch. he would break them down with his agility, speed, accuracy. Now you take someone like tyson with more power then what foreman had and the agility and accuracy if not higher then what ali had, throw in some ferociousness and animal instinct then you get one scary individual.

mrboxer
09-03-2009, 07:21 PM
i dont think power is as important to ko/kd as much as people think..i think speed is what causes knockout/downs..what do you think?none what so ever it is the way you throw the punch you have to put your hip into it:boxing:

tkos
09-04-2009, 04:18 AM
i think it all applies. technique (punch starts from the ground and travels thru out your body), timing, power and speed. get all those in and hit the jaw or temple and the chances of a knockdown are pretty high.:boxing:

mrboxer
09-04-2009, 11:53 AM
something like a lightning strike,a thunder,a kaboom,it is very similar,but when you put your hip into the shot you are using the g-force of the body which translates the ions of power through the body:boxing:

Chr0nic
09-04-2009, 01:00 PM
knockout/knockdown comes from suprise, you get suprised(whether it be a suprise from how hard you got hit or how fast it was) and your mind wonders off before you know it you've been counted out

ticklegore_
09-04-2009, 01:36 PM
it's about punching from angles that knocks ppl down I box with my hands down so that my punches come from my waist that way my opponents dont see my punches coming and I can knock them down

mrboxer
09-04-2009, 04:53 PM
you punch with your hands down,are you are just shadowboxing,because if you have a fight with you hands down you will get flattened,did you see when cuevas had his hands down against hearns and hearns walloped him with that right,cuevas looked like he just finished drinking a bottle of tequila,keep your hands up at all times:boxing: