View Full Version : Key for Manny to beat Morales


bigdlb12
03-02-2005, 12:06 PM
Could this be the key for Manny to beat Morales?
http://i.esmas.com/image/0/000/004/055/barilocheNT_.jpg

Erik Morales en companía de su mujer Andrea Mora.

Marjoh
03-02-2005, 12:09 PM
I think Manny's wife is also here in the US. And Pacquiao has his own condo. And his younger than Morales but he already has two kids. So don't be so sure. :D

bigdlb12
03-02-2005, 12:11 PM
he needs to stay the hell away from her, for now

puppy_dogg
03-02-2005, 12:12 PM
do you have any more shots of morales's ho?

i never thought id see the warrior el terrible throwin his pimp thing down :D

bigdlb12
03-02-2005, 12:27 PM
no sorry thats all I found

but forthe manny fans

http://www.maxboxing.com/Chee/images/Manny_Pacquiao_PacMan_276_225.jpg

puppy_dogg
03-02-2005, 12:31 PM
i like that pic in your signature, he looks like a bad ass :boxing:

bigdlb12
03-02-2005, 12:46 PM
i like that pic in your signature, he looks like a bad ass :boxing:
thanks man, I wish him and Manny the best of luck and hope niether one comes out dead

Mr. Ryan
03-02-2005, 01:30 PM
I think Manny's wife is also here in the US. And Pacquiao has his own condo. And his younger than Morales but he already has two kids. So don't be so sure. :D
I thought Pacquiao is up in a motel. Freddie Roach said he would put Manny up in a condo, but Manny refused.

brickhouse187
03-02-2005, 01:32 PM
Manny has to fight him nonstop from start to finish. Too much Too early is the key.

+= El Jefe=+
03-02-2005, 01:34 PM
thanks man, I wish him and Manny the best of luck and hope niether one comes out dead


dude can i use that pic on your
signature as my avantar????

Tha Greatest
03-02-2005, 01:34 PM
Erik Morales looks like Kevin from the backstreet boys

Mr. Ryan
03-02-2005, 01:35 PM
Manny has to fight him nonstop from start to finish. Too much Too early is the key.
That is true. Erik Morales is a slow starter, he don't take shots too well early in fights, as we saw against In-Jin Chi and Jesus Chavez. If Pacquiao keeps the pressure on Erik, it'll be a short night.

RwK
03-02-2005, 01:37 PM
Pac is facing a serious opponent. None like he has ever faced. Morales plays offense, so does pac. This is the first time I have ever seen him attempt to fight an offensive minded fighter.

bigdlb12
03-02-2005, 01:38 PM
dude can i use that pic on your
signature as my avantar????
go ahead but I think they have one a bit bigger, I went to yahoo images and type in erik morales

bigdlb12
03-02-2005, 01:40 PM
here you go

http://i.esmas.com/image/0/000/003/227/erik_S.jpg

Mr. Ryan
03-02-2005, 01:40 PM
Pac is facing a serious opponent. None like he has ever faced. Morales plays offense, so does pac. This is the first time I have ever seen him attempt to fight an offensive minded fighter.
I'm interested in that scenario, seehow that plays out. But the key does seem to be Pacquiao's speed and power. Erik is going to give him the opportunities.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-02-2005, 01:42 PM
The key is to stay on Morale's chest where his reach is a disadvantage, something many doesnt do.

RwK
03-02-2005, 01:44 PM
I'm interested in that scenario, seehow that plays out. But the key does seem to be Pacquiao's speed and power. Erik is going to give him the opportunities.

Morales is not going to run. He is going to distance himself with the jab, while standing in front of his opponent. Like he always does. He throws straight punches followed by uppercuts. Pac has NEVER faced this versatile of an opponent.

JMM,MAB,lucero,ledwaba,etc are not half as versatile as Morales.
Not to mention, they are defensive minded fighters.

mic573
03-02-2005, 01:47 PM
I think Morales best work will have to come on the inside with uppercuts while Manny lungs in. If they stay on the outside Morales has to constantly pump his jab because if he doesn't the faster Pacquiao will come down the middle with the straight left. I think who ever breaks thier opponent down to the body more will win a decision. Morales goes to the body alot more than Pac does so I might give him the edge. This fight is really hard for me to choose because I can see several ways the fight can go down.

Mr. Ryan
03-02-2005, 01:48 PM
Morales is not going to run. He is going to distance himself with the jab, while standing in front of his opponent. Like he always does. He throws straight punches followed by uppercuts. Pac has NEVER faced this versatile of an opponent.

JMM,MAB,lucero,ledwaba,etc are not half as versatile as Morales.
Not to mention, they are defensive minded fighters.
Barrera is not as versatile? Barrera is like 3 inches shorter than Morales, yet out slugs and outboxes Morales. Barrera is many times better than Morales. Morales is vulnerable most when he boxes. He doesn't really jab well, and if he goes backwards, he's in all kinds of trouble. I think his best bet is to stay in Pacquiao's chest, as Pacquiao doesn't throw short punches that well. The good thing for Pacquiao is that neither does Morales.

Mr. Ryan
03-02-2005, 01:50 PM
I think Morales best work will have to come on the inside with uppercuts while Manny lungs in. If they stay on the outside Morales has to constantly pump his jab because if he doesn't the faster Pacquiao will come down the middle with the straight left. I think who ever breaks thier opponent down to the body more will win a decision. Morales goes to the body alot more than Pac does so I might give him the edge. This fight is really hard for me to choose because I can see several ways the fight can go down.
That has always been a thing, though. Morales goes to the body, but not nearly as effectively as Barrera. For the most part, I can't see body punching being that big a factor in the fight.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-02-2005, 01:54 PM
Erik Morales looks like Kevin from the backstreet boys

lol i dont know whats funnier that he might look like him or that you know the names. :p

mic573
03-02-2005, 01:54 PM
I think Morales is alot better on the inside that Pacquiao is. I don't see Pac winning a fight where he stays in Morales chest because Morales moves and gives angles while shooting the uppercut followed by the righthand like he did against Hernandez. Barrera was able to stay in Morales chest because he is a much better inside fighter than Pacquiao, Jesus Chavez and Hernandez plus he went to the body.

mic573
03-02-2005, 02:00 PM
That has always been a thing, though. Morales goes to the body, but not nearly as effectively as Barrera. For the most part, I can't see body punching being that big a factor in the fight.

I think body punching can be a huge factor if either fighter goes in thinking to throw to the body early. Both fighters are expecting each other to go for alot of headshots and both fighters have enough power to hurt the other. Bodypunching will slow down thier opponent and take away some of that punching power plus in Morales case it could slow down the upper body movement of Pacquiao. If Pacquiao focuses on the body he can setup alot more head shots for himself by making Morales worry about protect his body.

Mr. Ryan
03-02-2005, 02:09 PM
I think body punching can be a huge factor if either fighter goes in thinking to throw to the body early. Both fighters are expecting each other to go for alot of headshots and both fighters have enough power to hurt the other. Bodypunching will slow down thier opponent and take away some of that punching power plus in Morales case it could slow down the upper body movement of Pacquiao. If Pacquiao focuses on the body he can setup alot more head shots for himself by making Morales worry about protect his body.
Erik Morales' height makes him unable to consistently throw left hooks to the body. His best bet is to stay on the outside and throw that straight right to the body.

mic573
03-02-2005, 02:23 PM
It really don't matter how he goes to the body he just has to go to the body especially to slow down the upperbody movement of Pacquiao. If the fight stays on the outside then Morales is going to have to overwork the jab because shot for shot he won't be able to beat Pacquiao because is just simply too fast. Morales is going to have to fight his ass off either way and back Pacquiao up and keep him backing up. Same goes for Pac because both fighters aren't too good when going backwards.

BBFM
03-02-2005, 02:30 PM
3 weeks cant come any sooner

puppy_dogg
03-02-2005, 02:35 PM
It really don't matter how he goes to the body he just has to go to the body especially to slow down the upperbody movement of Pacquiao. If the fight stays on the outside then Morales is going to have to overwork the jab because shot for shot he won't be able to beat Pacquiao because is just simply too fast. Morales is going to have to fight his ass off either way and back Pacquiao up and keep him backing up. Same goes for Pac because both fighters aren't too good when going backwards.

true but morales fights going backwards better than pacman does. eric was going back quite a bit in the chavez fight and he even knocked him down twice while jesus was rushing him. pac still has to be cautious when charging morales cause eric is always dangerous no matter how he fights

RwK
03-02-2005, 02:39 PM
3 weeks cant come any sooner

You want to bet on this fight dude?

mic573
03-02-2005, 02:52 PM
true but morales fights going backwards better than pacman does. eric was going back quite a bit in the chavez fight and he even knocked him down twice while jesus was rushing him. pac still has to be cautious when charging morales cause eric is always dangerous no matter how he fights

I know Pac has too be careful because when he lunges in the uppercut should be waiting for him. The uppercut should also be the main weapon Morales uses. The uppercut will actually be a bigger weapon than the right hand because Pac lunges in. Plus like I said earlier Morales can give angles when being pressured like Hernandez tried to do but when faced with a good inside fighter he isn't all that good. Pacquiao isn't a good inside fighter and that is a good thing for Morales but he is fast enough to do some of the things Hernandez and Chavez couldn't while pressuring Morales.

puppy_dogg
03-02-2005, 02:54 PM
very true. i hear ya man ;)

BBFM
03-02-2005, 03:21 PM
You want to bet on this fight dude?
i would but i bet all my points to chups by then i should have 10000 points which im betting you for the wright tito fight.

Floydmayweather
03-02-2005, 03:53 PM
This is a very dangerous fight for both. Eric has never faced someone as fast and as powerful as Pac and as relentless. Pac has never faced an offesive fighter who has a chin like Morales and a punch to back it up. I am hoping Pac knocks him out quick but i think its gonna be a blood bath from both fighters.

bigdlb12
03-02-2005, 04:40 PM
true but morales fights going backwards better than pacman does. eric was going back quite a bit in the chavez fight and he even knocked him down twice while jesus was rushing him. pac still has to be cautious when charging morales cause eric is always dangerous no matter how he fightsi couldnt agree more dude, ytou are right, I cant wait

delroy02
03-02-2005, 06:33 PM
This fights hard to pick, I think the longer the fight goes then I will favour Morales by late TKO. I don't think the fight will go the distance. I think Morales will get hurt and possibly florred early but I fell his extra strength at the weight and his abiltiy will wear Manny down by the 10th

phallus
03-02-2005, 07:53 PM
Could this be the key for Manny to beat Morales?
http://i.esmas.com/image/0/000/004/055/barilocheNT_.jpg

Erik Morales en companía de su mujer Andrea Mora.


man, morales woman is FINE...he better stay away from her for a couple weeks before the fight ( if he can, could you?)

...i agree about the uppercuts, though. eric is gonna have to follow his long left jab with a right uppercut as manny moves in. as i see it it'll be a great fight but EM has the skills to give manny a boxing lesson, pac's only chance is to swarm morales, but even then he's gonna get caught - morales has power, he's not JMM. also, because of the loss to MAB, i think eric is more psychologically hungry to win this fight, he'll do whatever it takes, while manny's coming off a string of easy wins.

bangbangko
03-02-2005, 08:27 PM
Pacquiao's key to victory is keep the pressure on Morales! If he can keep Morales on the defensive for the greater part of the fight he will win the rounds if not KO him. Should be a hell of a fight.

BB

PS - For the record, my money's on Morales.

Zab Super Judah
03-02-2005, 08:39 PM
i wonder if morales is gonna get frustrated when manny headbunts him..manny doesnt intentionally do it but the way he fights he headbunts alot of people.......i wonder if hell get morales mad like he got barrera mad

Crouching Tiger
03-02-2005, 08:55 PM
Another key to Pac's victory-

I suggest team Pacquiao hire Erik's mujer Andrea Mora as the RING GIRL. Round by round, El Terrible will lose focus and composure!!! :boxing:

Tha Greatest
03-02-2005, 10:19 PM
If Erik showed a bit of respect for Barrera

i would've been rooting for him

to bad

GO MANNY!!

AIR_KENG
03-02-2005, 11:25 PM
Another key to Pac's victory-

I suggest team Pacquiao hire Erik's mujer Andrea Mora as the RING GIRL. Round by round, El Terrible will lose focus and composure!!! :boxing:
true, they should convince murad to put everyting on the line to get her... HAHA!!! nice post...

chito
03-02-2005, 11:36 PM
The key is to stay on Morale's chest where his reach is a disadvantage, something many doesnt do.

you gave us (manny's fans) something to be scared about with that sig eh? but im pretty sure this won't happen because of manny's superb conditioning. this fight is in a couple of weeks, im sure everybody is so excited about it. we'll talk about this pretty sure whatever the outcome is.

AIR_KENG
03-03-2005, 12:43 AM
you gave us (manny's fans) something to be scared about with that sig eh? but im pretty sure this won't happen because of manny's superb conditioning. this fight is in a couple of weeks, im sure everybody is so excited about it. we'll talk about this pretty sure whatever the outcome is.
i was under estimating erik's endurance in the MAB fights but now with the news that he was running longer and that he was improving his stamina, he should be posting a lot more problems for manny... great fight...

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-03-2005, 01:55 AM
you gave us (manny's fans) something to be scared about with that sig eh? but im pretty sure this won't happen because of manny's superb conditioning. this fight is in a couple of weeks, im sure everybody is so excited about it. we'll talk about this pretty sure whatever the outcome is.

lol not trying to scare anyone im sure most people know what Erik is capable of. :D

yeah im excited as well cant wait for the fight to come up yet, woohoo.

pacmanrulz
03-03-2005, 09:36 AM
I think this fight would be Manny's crowning glory! Im so excited!!!

pacmanrulz
03-03-2005, 09:40 AM
If Manny KO or TKO Morales...I think he will be the King of the Featherweight division! Go Manny!

bigdlb12
03-03-2005, 10:56 AM
Morales needs to watch out for manny's left hand and manny needs to watch out for Morales right uppercut
thats all

Boy 'O boy I cant wait

pacmanrulz
03-03-2005, 11:19 AM
Morales needs to watch out for manny's left hand and manny needs to watch out for Morales right uppercut
thats all

Boy 'O boy I cant wait
The key for Morales to win is to out box Manny...The problem is manny is to fast for him

bigdlb12
03-03-2005, 11:26 AM
Manny is too fast for morales, but I still cant wait to see the fight

JOM'S
03-03-2005, 11:31 AM
Could this be the key for Manny to beat Morales?
http://i.esmas.com/image/0/000/004/055/barilocheNT_.jpg

Erik Morales en companía de su mujer Andrea Mora.

well i'll fight Erik for Andrea Mora, she's hot ....

mujer = girlfriend, wife, woman ???

pacmanrulz
03-03-2005, 11:38 AM
well i'll fight Erik for Andrea Mora, she's hot ....

mujer = girlfriend, wife, woman ???
Few more days guys! Im so excited!

JOM'S
03-03-2005, 11:46 AM
Few more days guys! Im so excited!

few more days and will be moment of truth ...

I just hope it will be a decisive victory for the winner...

Erick Morales Fans just PM me for bets, i also have a game for Erick Fans at the Fatasy Betting Lounge, but nobody seems to be joining...

chito
03-06-2005, 07:16 PM
i was under estimating erik's endurance in the MAB fights but now with the news that he was running longer and that he was improving his stamina, he should be posting a lot more problems for manny... great fight...

p're i saw the mab-morales fight again yesterday and i noticed mab was fighting from a closer distance, that's the way to limit the power in morales' right hand. i guess, mab really did well but pac's style is fighting from the outside, he's got the coming forward 1-2 combination. i hope my observation is wrong. seriously, we (pac fans) should not be so confident of a pacman win. because this will be hard to do considering what can erik do. let's just pray pac will do what is best and let's hope it works for him to win.

riz
03-06-2005, 07:30 PM
c im a fan of both, so im hoping for fight of the year.
pac to win has to be the agressor, bcuz he can't counter good at all

Moon
03-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Manny has to fight him nonstop from start to finish. Too much Too early is the key.
Agreed. But, this is the same approach that Manny brought to JMM, who's supposed be a "lesser" fighter than Morales (if you believe what the Pac fans are saying). But, I think Manny MUST use this same approach again.

Manny will definitely go after Morales right away and not try to feel things out in the first round. Pac will probably surprise Morales with his speed and power, despite all of Morales' preparation for that situation. If Pac gets a KD or two, but doesn't KO Morales, it could then be a long night after that for Pac. Why? Becuase Manny will have shown Morales everything in his arsenal in getting those KD's. So, Morales survives the early KD while at the same time he quickly figures out Manny's limited skills. Don't get wrong here. I like Manny's chances against the very hittable Morales, but Manny had better finish him off early. Manny simply cannot expect speed and power on the same predictable stuff (namely his stiff right and lunging left) to be sufficient against the monster counterer.

Prediction, Morales by late stoppage or UD. Manny commits early and has success, but it becomes a show for the more skilled boxer/fighter (not the speedier and more powerful fighter).

BBFM
03-06-2005, 10:08 PM
anyone ever seen morales just owned cause i havent..

Hurlex
03-06-2005, 11:47 PM
mujer="his women"
_______
its gonna be a great fight,my money is on morales but i wont be dissapointed if manny wins,,,,i kinda want him to win,i hate morales so GO MANNY,but i have to bet against you,that way whoever wins i will be happy cuz i will either get paid,or have the pleasure of seeing morales getting ko'ed....this is by no means got to the 12round