View Full Version : Who are The Best Fighters


+= El Jefe=+
03-01-2005, 08:12 PM
Ok what Race produces the best figthers?????

there is a lot of arguments for many races but who
do you guys think gets the job better done?

reality
03-01-2005, 08:17 PM
Blacks dominate the sport, we are seeing a lot of good African fighters making a name for themselves lately too. So I wouldn't just say African Americans, blacks in general.

+= El Jefe=+
03-01-2005, 08:18 PM
Blacks dominate the sport, we are seeing a lot of good African fighters making a name for themselves lately too.

actually look at all the Champs from all the weigth classes
you will see most of them belong to a race and its not black.

reality
03-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Other races have great boxers too obviously, but most of the legends of the sport seem to be black.

Slipx
03-01-2005, 08:22 PM
Ok what Race produces the best figthers?????

there is a lot of arguments for many races but who
do you guys think gets the job better done?

well saying which race produces the best fighter is really a bad idea, because you dont know how hard one man can train and become the greatest.

just looking at great champions throughout the course of time it's obvious blacks are the majority.

There have been some great Latino fighters such as Chavez that could probably take out any other fighter in the same weight class over the course of the last 100 years, but he is a rare exception.

im white,for the record.

IwatchBoxing
03-01-2005, 08:23 PM
Black people, no contest, they almost own boxing.

Slipx
03-01-2005, 08:25 PM
Black people, no contest, they almost own boxing.

YOU RACIST PIG!


lolz ;)

Crouching Tiger
03-01-2005, 08:26 PM
The blacks of course. The Latinos also do good in the lighter weights. :boxing:

Yogi
03-01-2005, 08:33 PM
No question, it's got to be us Canadians.

SweetScience
03-01-2005, 09:05 PM
Robots over Humans.

adrsan84
03-01-2005, 09:34 PM
It seems to me tha Latinos tend to dominate in the lower weights, while many blacks in the higher weights. This question is really tough though because there are many latinos who could be considered blcak and vice versa. The thing is that race is a social thing and really has nothing to do with physicall attributes, just culture. Alot of people who consider themsleves latinos are more physically similar to blacks than lets say to a Mexican. I think you just gotta judge fighters one by one.

miron_lang
03-01-2005, 10:01 PM
African Americans and Latinos 2nd.

BUT


Felix Trinidad looks black and is also a Latino same with many other fighters. There's no distinction between fighters in terms of physical attributes IMO, probably just the culture. :boxing:

TheRealDunnagan
03-01-2005, 10:04 PM
race is a social thing and really has nothing to do with physicall attributes, just culture.

people with more workers/laborers/people who do very physical ****/fighters in their families are gifted with faster twitch tendons, science has proved this.

this directly correlates to why african americans are predominantly the best boxers who ever walked the earth, because they were enslaved and did a ****load of labor for 400 years, giving them an advantage with their tendon speed

proof? look at fighters like sugar ray leonard,joe frazier,meldrick taylor,or ali. no other latino fighter could punch with that intensity and speed, slavery was in their families and that's why they were gifted with those attributes.

the reason there are more latinos than whites successful in boxing is because many of them come from aztec descent, and we all know what kind of work those ****ers did, im talking 10-20 massive multiple acre-high sized pyramids, and an innovative city for their time


white hopes can only hope to outwork their entire forefathers' life span to somehow gain a phenomic edge on their heredity.

tnf1400
03-01-2005, 10:06 PM
No question, it's got to be us Canadians.


im with you fellow.

Dr.Depravity
03-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Ha I cant believe this. Isnt it obvious that its Others. :cool2:

PessimisticPug
03-01-2005, 10:28 PM
Race has very little to do with anything. What it comes down to is who at that time period is living poor, in the ghetto. Who learns the toughness of the game before they even step into the ring by just stepping out on the street. back in the 30's-40's it was the jews and italians. They were the ones living it the tough way in the ghettos of nyc and all over the country. Now you see few jew or italian champions.

People say that the blacks were bread to be bigger, stronger and faster. ****, thats the million dollar man steve austin. Some are fast and some are not. If I stepped into the ring to fight a black guy with the thought that they were in some way geneticaly superior, or any other person or race for that matter, I would not have won a fight. I am a white boy as they called me in the gyms of Detroit. I was surrounded mainly by blacks in the gyms that i went to. Those guys are like my brothers. They knew that we were all fighters, with the same things as the next guy. 2 fists, 2 eyes, one mind and one heart. Show me how genetics can change that and I will then agree with you that there is a geneticaly superior fighter on this planet...........Rockin'

jason power
03-01-2005, 10:36 PM
The Aussies

davico
03-01-2005, 10:52 PM
Race has very little to do with anything. What it comes down to is who at that time period is living poor, in the ghetto. Who learns the toughness of the game before they even step into the ring by just stepping out on the street. back in the 30's-40's it was the jews and italians. They were the ones living it the tough way in the ghettos of nyc and all over the country. Now you see few jew or italian champions.

People say that the blacks were bread to be bigger, stronger and faster. ****, thats the million dollar man steve austin. Some are fast and some are not. If I stepped into the ring to fight a black guy with the thought that they were in some way geneticaly superior, or any other person or race for that matter, I would not have won a fight. I am a white boy as they called me in the gyms of Detroit. I was surrounded mainly by blacks in the gyms that i went to. Those guys are like my brothers. They knew that we were all fighters, with the same things as the next guy. 2 fists, 2 eyes, one mind and one heart. Show me how genetics can change that and I will then agree with you that there is a geneticaly superior fighter on this planet...........Rockin'

I agree with everything you say, BUT, there is genetic differences between the races, and it is a fact of life. It has been proven that black people are born with a higher bone and muscle density than caucasions which is one of the reasons that swimming is a sport that is dominated by caucasions as they have better buoancy in the water. (Of course an added factor is that alot more caucasions have access to pools!) Black people also have a higher % of people that are born with fast twitched fibre in their make-up which is conducive to explosive sports, eg. Sprinting, jumping etc. Mexicans will nearly always have great stamina due to the fact that Mexico city is at altitude and again it is a proven fact that training at altitude helps your stamina. You could go on.

The thing is that generally boxers are from lower class families and they have the drive and talent to be the best at their chosen sport no matter what race they are. Factors such as upbringing and other socio-economics will always play a part, but it is the heart, will and natural talent that a person is gifted with, that will make them a champion boxers. :)

PessimisticPug
03-01-2005, 11:03 PM
Davico

I must debate alittle here with you. When you say mexicans and the altitude of the mountains then your strictly saying then mexicans in that region. What about a mexican native living in wisconsin, will he still have that stamina. Also, what might happen if the pools were no longer available to the whites and became easily accessed by the blacks. Would the whites still dominate that sport.

I agree that the social surroundings have alot to do with a fighters make up, but I still have trouble believing that one race is superior to another. It would seem a stereo type?........Rockin'

davico
03-01-2005, 11:17 PM
Davico

I must debate alittle here with you. When you say mexicans and the altitude of the mountains then your strictly saying then mexicans in that region. What about a mexican native living in wisconsin, will he still have that stamina. Also, what might happen if the pools were no longer available to the whites and became easily accessed by the blacks. Would the whites still dominate that sport.

I agree that the social surroundings have alot to do with a fighters make up, but I still have trouble believing that one race is superior to another. It would seem a stereo type?........Rockin'

It is a fact that blacks have denser bones and muscles and less buoancy in the water, so, say if the ratio of blacks and whites was reversed in californian universities, you would still see the whites setting faster times (assuming all training was identical). Their are plenty of black swimmers in the US, yet how many of them are on the US swim team.

I'm not saying that one race is superior to another, I am just pointing out that we have differences genetically, which help or hinder certain aspects of one's physical abilities. You can look up the medical texts if you want, just stating the facts that there are differences between the genetic makeup of each race. ;)

davico
03-01-2005, 11:22 PM
Davico

I must debate alittle here with you. When you say mexicans and the altitude of the mountains then your strictly saying then mexicans in that region. What about a mexican native living in wisconsin, will he still have that stamina. Also, what might happen if the pools were no longer available to the whites and became easily accessed by the blacks. Would the whites still dominate that sport.

I agree that the social surroundings have alot to do with a fighters make up, but I still have trouble believing that one race is superior to another. It would seem a stereo type?........Rockin'

Yes, your right, the mexican point that I made is not genetic. It would only apply to those mexicans living in mexico. That point would be valid for anyone of any race who were to train at altitude. Should have made that clearer. ;)

PessimisticPug
03-01-2005, 11:24 PM
o.k davico, good point. I am not familiar with the medical text but obviously you have been exposed to them. Take care man...........Rockin'

The Phantom Menace
03-01-2005, 11:49 PM
The accomplishments of not only African Americans but Black athletes in general in boxing cannot be denied. Whether or not it is from some kind of genetic factor really is irrelevant. The record books and facts speak for themselves, black athletes for whatver reason dominate boxing.

shadymg
03-01-2005, 11:57 PM
well, i think the question's gotta be decided between who are the best fighters/boxers, and who are the most entertaining to watch. As much as i jump to say African Americans, i can't get friggin Barrera-Morales out of my head....and I can't wait for Morales-Pacquiao....tossup

hellfire508
03-02-2005, 12:10 AM
African Americans no doubt...however robots would give them a run for their money...gorillas too.

shadymg
03-02-2005, 12:13 AM
African Americans no doubt...however robots would give them a run for their money...gorillas too.

lol, see....now that's just wrong :-P

Slipx
03-02-2005, 12:33 AM
Of course black champions seem predominant.

Then a guy like Corrie Sanders or Vitali comes along and punks out the entire division, and it makes you wonder.

Mech.
03-02-2005, 12:38 AM
No question, it's got to be us Canadians.

LMFAO.Give the other race's a chance you darn canucks :boxing:





:D

hellfire508
03-02-2005, 12:47 AM
LMFAO.Give the other race's a chance you darn canucks :boxing:





:D

lol. those canadians just dominate every division....

The Phantom Menace
03-02-2005, 12:50 AM
Of course black champions seem predominant.

Then a guy like Corrie Sanders or Vitali comes along and punks out the entire division, and it makes you wonder.




Of course there are always exceptions to the rule. But we are speaking about who dominates in general.

xrhythmxnxbluesx
03-02-2005, 02:27 AM
africans... followed by latinos...

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
03-02-2005, 02:34 AM
Latinos .

Imira
03-03-2005, 07:52 PM
Boxers who are half black and half Thai are the best! ;)

RwK
03-03-2005, 08:08 PM
Latinos.

They produce the most champions in Professional Boxing.

czars_salad
03-03-2005, 08:08 PM
I'd say black americans, and not just as boxers but also as athletes.

First they have the physique, body-build up needed for sports.

Second, americans have the $$$ to train and condition their athletes

Third, the abundance of food and food supplements (including medicines, vitamins, etc) in their country.