There's been a bit of talk of late about a rematch. It's one of the only honorable options left for Mundine. Without speculating whether or not it actually takes place, who do you think wins and why?

Like the first bout, I think it will be a close fight. Mundine's only worry will be getting outworked again. I still don't see Geale as skillful enough to beat the man. I pick Mundine by another decision.

There's been a bit of talk of late about a rematch. It's one of the only honorable options left for Mundine. Without speculating whether or not it actually takes place, who do you think wins and why?

Like the first bout, I think it will be a close fight. Mundine's only worry will be getting outworked again. I still don't see Geale as skillful enough to beat the man. I pick Mundine by another decision.

Can't decide who will go that 1 step better next time they meet.I had Mundine winning by 1 point.

I heard Mundine took the fight which is a bit of a shock but I gotta give him his dues
I thought at one point Mundine might be a world beater but ive lost all hope for that now, the best thing he did was get into fnr4 I love smashing him with Tyson

Mundine agrees to rematch with Geale

Peter Kogoy in the Australian| August 27, 2009

ANTHONY Mundine yesterday announced he will bow to pressure and fight Daniel Geale in a rematch of the IBO middleweight world title won in controversial circumstances in Brisbane in May.

The much-anticipated re-match decision follows an appeal by Geale's camp over the close defeat. The IBO has ordered the fight must take place before February 27 or Mundine faces being stripped of the title.

"There are a few money issues that still need to be resolved. It should take place in early February, but just where is another sticking point," Mundine said after welcoming Leonard to Sydney for a series of charity fund raisers and the launch of a new video game.

"Geale's a Tasmanian. It could be there. Right now it is just a matter of negotiating the best deal for both of us. But I believe the Geale camp see me as some sort of a cash cow."

Mundine won a split decision over Geale but Geale lodged a protest claiming the judges did not score a knockdown, and that a Mundine supporter verbally intimidated a a judge.

But before the rematch happen, both Mundine and Geale will have seperate fights on the same card.

But before the rematch happen, both Mundine and Geale will have seperate fights on the same card.

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Will Mundine want to give Geale a rematch?

he ran him pretty close first time out, Mundine would probably cross the street if he saw geale coming toward him.

i had mundine winning relatively comfortably the 1st time and i think he will stop him if they go at it again, geale landed hes best shots on mundine and didnt hurt him, choc knows geale cant hurt him and it will give him alot of confidence right from the outset.
imo he will really press the fight on the front foot this time, because of that and being more and more comfortable at the weight i think he will stop geale in the first half of the fight

but then again, thats what i thought would happen in the first fight as well, so what do i know

i had mundine winning relatively comfortably the 1st time and i think he will stop him if they go at it again, geale landed hes best shots on mundine and didnt hurt him, choc knows geale cant hurt him and it will give him alot of confidence right from the outset.
imo he will really press the fight on the front foot this time, because of that and being more and more comfortable at the weight i think he will stop geale in the first half of the fight

but then again, thats what i thought would happen in the first fight as well, so what do i know

I'm not sure Anthony can stop anyone anymore.


I think Mundine would take another relatively close decision in a rematch. I know the first fight was close but to be honest this isn't really a fight I'm that keen to see.

I'm not sure Anthony can stop anyone anymore.


I think Mundine would take another relatively close decision in a rematch. I know the first fight was close but to be honest this isn't really a fight I'm that keen to see.

no im not really psyched about it, i would much rather see either of them take on some decent quality overseas opponents

Its weird with Mundine isn't it, he never really did anything with his career and now he is over the hill, it just never really took off for him did it.

Its weird with Mundine isn't it, he never really did anything with his career and now he is over the hill, it just never really took off for him did it.

I think he has had a fairly decent career when all is said and done. Sure I don't like him any more and I think he does the sport a disservice in this country, but he has had some reasonable wins against decent opposition and has achieved pretty good accomplishments, particularly for a guy who was a professional in a non-combat sport well into his 20s.

His win over Echols was his best night, no doubt. He fought really well in that fight and deserved that win. The Green win was not too bad also I guess.

He has made a bucket load of money in the sport, so I think that to say his career "never really took off" is a bit harsh, despite the fact that he never really made it on the world stage and is a bit of a cunt.

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Yeah i guess i mean he never really made it to the top, you know having loads of fights on hbo and all that, he did do ok for himself but i think he under achieved.

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Yeah i guess i mean he never really made it to the top, you know having loads of fights on hbo and all that, he did do ok for himself but i think he under achieved.

Gonna have to disagree again mate. I don't think he under-achieved at all. I think the guys he beat represent the highest level of guys that he could have beaten. He loses to the next step up I think, so I don't really think he could have achieved any more.

After Mundine's finished with Geale hopefully he can add another 160 title to his collection.

Mundine and Pavlik would be great on HBO PPV with a 24/7 series. Now that would be insane

After Mundine's finished with Geale hopefully he can add another 160 title to his collection.

Mundine and Pavlik would be great on HBO PPV with a 24/7 series. Now that would be insane

Answer me this one question:

How does Mundine even compete with Pavlik if he struggles immensely with Daniel Geale?

Answer me this one question:

How does Mundine even compete with Pavlik if he struggles immensely with Daniel Geale?

First off it's called styles, and second Geale is going to go on to become a World Class fighter and he would of give Pavlik a great fight aswell.

That was a great win for Mundine beating the undefeated Daniel Geale. Geale would also have a great chance at defeating Felix Surm.

First off it's called styles, and second Geale is going to go on to become a World Class fighter and he would of give Pavlik a great fight aswell.

That was a great win for Mundine beating the undefeated Daniel Geale. Geale would also have a great chance at defeating Felix Surm.

Geale wouldn't give Pavlik a great fight.

I like Daniel but that is just ridiculous, he would get flat out destroyed.

Geale wouldn't give Pavlik a great fight.

I like Daniel but that is just ridiculous, he would get flat out destroyed.

Yes he would, Pavlik struggled with Rubio, who Geale is well better than

Yes he would, Pavlik struggled with Rubio, who Geale is well better than

how did Pavlik struggle with Rubio??he made him retire in the 9th round!

After Mundine's finished with Geale hopefully he can add another 160 title to his collection.

Mundine and Pavlik would be great on HBO PPV with a 24/7 series. Now that would be insane

LOL. That wouldn't make a PPV. No one knows who Mundine is in the USA.


FYI HBO don't do a 24/7 on every PPV they do.

Gonna have to disagree again mate. I don't think he under-achieved at all. I think the guys he beat represent the highest level of guys that he could have beaten. He loses to the next step up I think, so I don't really think he could have achieved any more.

I think he has under-achieved to be honest, more in regards to the fact that he hasn't bad the balls to go over and fight in the states.

He's never lived up to his own hype imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVGihEczJCU

I think he has under-achieved to be honest, more in regards to the fact that he hasn't bad the balls to go over and fight in the states.

He's never lived up to his own hype imo.

Let me ask you this:

What could he have done that he didn't do?

Who could he have beat that he didn't beat?

I agree with you that he didn't go close to living up to his own hype, but to me that is a separate issue from under-acheiving.

Did he achieve the most he could have? Definately IMO.

Let me ask you this:

What could he have done that he didn't do?

Who could he have beat that he didn't beat?

I agree with you that he didn't go close to living up to his own hype, but to me that is a separate issue from under-acheiving.

Did he achieve the most he could have? Definately IMO.

Kessler. Manny Siaca.

On the world stage, Mundine hasn't done much at all.

Kessler. Manny Siaca.

On the world stage, Mundine hasn't done much at all.

Siaca maybe, maybe.

I'm not sure we are on the same page here though dude.

When I'm assessing whether a guy under or over achieved I'm looking at his ability, as I perceive it, and weighing it up against his achievements.

Do you honestly believe Mundine should have beaten Kessler? Does his ability warrant that? For me, Kessler is definately the better fighter. Therefore, for Mundine isn't under-achieving by losing to him, he is simply achieving at the level at which his ability warrants. You see what I mean?

Does beating Siaca do much for Mundine's career? No, not really. Siaca is still a pretty average fighter. Mundine just fought **** against him.

Bottom line - Mundine wasn't good enough to beat the next level of fighters above the likes of Echols and Green. Therefore, he didn't under-achieve - he beat the guys he should have and mostly lost to those that were better than him.

^^^^^^ Just to add to that, an example of a guy who under-achieved is Zab Judah. Should that guy have lost to fighters like Baldomir and Spinks? Fuk no.

I get what you're getting at Dan, just because he hasn't done everything (or in most cases anything) he has claimed to have/claims to, doesn't mean he's under achieved ability wise if that's all you think he's capable of.


Saying he could've beaten Kessler if he wasn't such a cat isn't really an excuse, because Mundine is a cat, it's like saying 'Katsidis could've beaten Casamayor if he wasn't just a slugger with a ton of heart', because that's just what they are.

I get what you're getting at Dan, just because he hasn't done everything (or in most cases anything) he has claimed to have/claims to, doesn't mean he's under achieved ability wise if that's all you think he's capable of.


Saying he could've beaten Kessler if he wasn't such a cat isn't really an excuse, because Mundine is a cat, it's like saying 'Katsidis could've beaten Casamayor if he wasn't just a slugger with a ton of heart', because that's just what they are.

Exactly.

Also though, I don't think Mundine lost to Kessler because he is a cat. He went the distance because he is a cat. Does anyone think that if Mundine opened up more and went after Kessler he would have won? I sure as hell don't - IMO he would have been stopped if he had engaged Kessler more. He knew that and that is why he boxed so cautiously and was happy just to go the distance.

Exactly.

Also though, I don't think Mundine lost to Kessler because he is a cat. He went the distance because he is a cat. Does anyone think that if Mundine opened up more and went after Kessler he would have won? I sure as hell don't - IMO he would have been stopped if he had engaged Kessler more. He knew that and that is why he boxed so cautiously and was happy just to go the distance.

In my view he lost by only 3 points to Kessler, and give him a great fight. Librado Andrade, Beyer, and Sartison all just got beat up and were never in the fight.

In my view he lost by only 3 points to Kessler, and give him a great fight. Librado Andrade, Beyer, and Sartison all just got beat up and were never in the fight.

I don't think he really gave him a great fight, and I had him losing by wider than that. There was a point in that fight where it became pretty clear to Anthony that if he kept with his current fight plan he was going to drop a pretty wide decision. He had a choice right there. He could a) continue along that path and just go the distance or b) try to mix it up and turn the fight around at the risk of getting beaten worse and potentially stopped.

Anthony chose a). Its just the way it is - some fighters have the ability just to lay it all on the line and others don't. Mundine doesn't.

Also, you say Beyer, Andrade and Sartison all just got "beat up" by Kessler and were never in the fight. Maybe, but so what? None of those guys are elite fighters or even close to it. Who cares if Mundine did better against Kessler than those three? It does nothing for Mundine's standing.

I don't think he really gave him a great fight, and I had him losing by wider than that. There was a point in that fight where it became pretty clear to Anthony that if he kept with his current fight plan he was going to drop a pretty wide decision. He had a choice right there. He could a) continue along that path and just go the distance or b) try to mix it up and turn the fight around at the risk of getting beaten worse and potentially stopped.

Anthony chose a). Its just the way it is - some fighters have the ability just to lay it all on the line and others don't. Mundine doesn't.

Also, you say Beyer, Andrade and Sartison all just got "beat up" by Kessler and were never in the fight. Maybe, but so what? None of those guys are elite fighters or even close to it. Who cares if Mundine did better against Kessler than those three? It does nothing for Mundine's standing.

Yes it does you idiot. Andrade should be a world champion now after he waas robbed against the number #2 of the division Lucian Bute.

Mundine give Kessler all he could handle and Kessler had knew he had been in a fight, and Mundine wasnt scared. Who are you to say the man was scared, when you have never stepped in a ring.

Mundine never took up boxing until the age of 25 and is beating fighters that have been doing it since they were kids, and who were world class amatures.

Mundine is a one off! Fighters like him don't come along very often. The man is a legend!

Yes it does you idiot. Andrade should be a world champion now after he waas robbed against the number #2 of the division Lucian Bute.

Mundine give Kessler all he could handle and Kessler had knew he had been in a fight, and Mundine wasnt scared. Who are you to say the man was scared, when you have never stepped in a ring.

Mundine never took up boxing until the age of 25 and is beating fighters that have been doing it since they were kids, and who were world class amatures.

Mundine is a one off! Fighters like him don't come along very often. The man is a legend!

Your expectations must be pretty low if you think Mundine is a legend for what he has accomplished so far . Plus your theory doesnt hold ground , just because Mundine did better against Kessler than Beyer , Andrade and Sartison doesnt mean he is better than those three ,styles make fights.

well i wonder how mundine will go up against Andrade then

Yes it does you idiot. Andrade should be a world champion now after he waas robbed against the number #2 of the division Lucian Bute.

Mundine give Kessler all he could handle and Kessler had knew he had been in a fight, and Mundine wasnt scared. Who are you to say the man was scared, when you have never stepped in a ring.

Mundine never took up boxing until the age of 25 and is beating fighters that have been doing it since they were kids, and who were world class amatures.

Mundine is a one off! Fighters like him don't come along very often. The man is a legend!

I agree that he has done well considering he transitioned from a completely different sport in his 20s. That cannot be denied.

I don't think he was necessarily scared of getting hurt, just scared of losing more comprehensively. He needed to take risks in that fight and wouldn't. End of.

Do you understand how "Look, Kessler beat these other B/B+ level fighters easier then he beat Mundine" doesn't help Mundine's standing? Fighters are assessed on who they beat. That is it. Mundine didn't beat Kessler.

well i wonder how mundine will go up against Andrade then

A prime Mundine would have had a chance against Andrade.

Right now though he gets stopped.

what every happen 2 the sturm fight?hes a dog if he hides from kessler and then sturm he should retire.