Any one know anything about them? What they ate? How big where they? How strong? How do they compare to humans of today? Anything interesting.

The Neanderthals had short, wide bodies, reflecting adaptation to the Ice Age, and a skeleton built for strength and endurance.

The Neanderthals had short, wide bodies, reflecting adaptation to the Ice Age, and a skeleton built for strength and endurance.


Thanks Sonny. Anything else?

i don't think anyone really knows what they look like. pictures are based on artists' conceptions. they always draw them to look like a cross between monkey and human... but i don't think they can really reconstruct it. like there's not enough fossils out there

Dont think Im trying to be lazy Ive looked on the net and found nothing. Since my education wasnt very long i dont know **** about them. I saw a little something the Discovery channel, thats what got my attention. The guy said one got hit by a ryhno and got got back up.He also said those ryhnos where a lot bigger than the ones today. So juat imagine the strength on one of these mofos.

if all that is true imagine boxing one of those madaF***ERs :eek:

if all that is true imagine boxing one of those madaF***ERs :eek:
You mean getting your ass fed to you literally! :eek:

the neanderthals became in 70,000 BC. they were the first species to use fire and advanced stone tools they were replaced by a later form of homo sapiens in 35,000 bc (cro-magnons). they have distinct features like: heavy brow ridges, a low long skull, a robust skeleton, shorter than modern man, more surface on the knee socket allowing for a greater attachment of ligament, tendons, and muscles. It also allowed Neanderthal to carry heavier loads with less strain. Neanderthal also had extremely thick bones.

Ever since the skull of a young ape-like creature was found at Taung, South Africa in 1924, scientists have searched Africa for our earliest ancestors. As Darwin guessed, it was in Africa that the ape lineage split to produce two new lines. One led to the gorillas and chimps, large forest apes who move by knuckle walking; a gait not seen in any other primates.

Neanderthals originated in Europe over 200,000 years ago and that they disappeared about 30,000 years ago. The situation is complicated by the additional presence in Europe, from about 35,000 years ago, of much more modern-looking people known as the Cro-Magnons, who seem to have ultimately originated in Africa. However, experts remain fiercely divided over the question of whether the Neanderthals were replaced by the invading Cro-Magnons, perhaps aggressively or through competition for the same resources, or whether they mixed and mated with each other - in which case modern Europeans might be partly descended from the Neanderthals.

The Neanderthals had short, wide bodies, reflecting adaptation to the Ice Age, and a skeleton built for strength and endurance. Their brains were as large as ours, but enclosed in a longer, lower skull, with a strong browridge over the eyes. The face was large and long, and was dominated by an enormous nose, perhaps part of an adaptation for breathing in relatively cold, dry air. The front teeth were relatively large, and the lower jaw lacked a prominent chin. Recent research using CT scans has revealed further details of Neanderthal anatomy, including the fact that their inner ear structure was slightly different from ours. The Neanderthals made effective but relatively simple tools, and although they buried their dead, many archaeologists have questioned whether they had other modern human attributes such as complex language or art. In seeming contrast, the Cro-Magnons certainly produced sophisticated tools and art, including the spectacular paintings of the Lascaux and Chauvet Caves, and most palaeoanthropologists consider that they were very similar to us in both anatomy and behaviour.

One of the most remarkable developments of recent years has been the recovery of ancient DNA from Neanderthal fossils. In 1997, fragments of DNA were extracted from the original Neanderthal skeleton, and analyses implied that the evolutionary divergence between modern humans and Neanderthals might have begun about half a million years ago. This work also failed to support any particularly close relationship between modern Europeans and the Neanderthals, since recent European DNA was as distinct as that of Africans, Australians or Asians from it. In March 2000, comparable DNA material was published from a Neanderthal child's skeleton from Mezmaiskaya Cave, northern Caucasus, dated at about 29,000 years old, providing further confirmation that the Neanderthals represented a deep and separate lineage from that of modern humans.

Late in 1998, another significant discovery was made at Lagar Velho, in Portugal. A child's skeleton, dated about 25,000 years old, is described as combining a modern-looking lower jaw and teeth with the robust, cold-adapted body shape characteristic of Neanderthals. However, full study of the skeleton is still in progress, and so it is not yet possible to evaluate in detail the claim that it is a hybrid. The young age of the child may have affected the degree of expression of modern or Neanderthal features, and it is not yet established whether it shows Neanderthal or modern features in significant regions such as the upper front teeth and inner ear. Alternatively, since we know that Portugal was much colder during this part of the Ice Age, could it represent the first evidence of modern humans adapting to the cold of the last Ice Age, thus paralleling the Neanderthals in some respects? These questions can only be answered by further research.

if all that is true imagine boxing one of those madaF***ERs :eek:

well just imgaine fighting Julio Cesar Chavez
lmao :D

well just imgaine fighter Julio Cesar Chavez
lmao :D


I DONT KNOW IF THATS A GOOD THING OR A BAD ONE? STILL WONDERING HOW THEY COMPARED TO MODERN HUMANS. OH YA JULIO WAS A TOUGH ASS MOFO IN HIS PRIME! ;)

Any one know anything about them? What they ate? How big where they? How strong? How do they compare to humans of today? Anything interesting.
according to scientist the Neanderthals were very strong because of their bone structure, however their intelligence was very limited, but good enough to help them overcome obstacles, the end of them was right around when modern humans a raised, there was some proof of the two emerging together. One small skeleton was found, believe to be of a young boy that had both features. Now I am not a raciest person and I am sorry if I make anyone feel uncomfortable by saying this, I only know this because I read it in a book and saw it on the science channel. It is believe that Blacks came from Neanderthals and supposedly blacks have 2 extra muscles, on the leg and thigh area, allowing them to become better hunters or now day’s sports players. Now they never said it straight out like that, but that’s what I got from it.

according to scientist the Neanderthals were very strong because of their bone structure, however their intelligence was very limited, but good enough to help them overcome obstacles, the end of them was right around when modern humans a raised, there was some proof of the two emerging together. One small skeleton was found, believe to be of a young boy that had both features. Now I am not a raciest person and I am sorry if I make anyone feel uncomfortable by saying this, I only know this because I read it in a book and saw it on the science channel. It is believe that Blacks came from Neanderthals and supposedly blacks have 2 extra muscles, on the leg and thigh area, allowing them to become better hunters or now day’s sports players. Now they never said it straight out like that, but that’s what I got from it.


IM NOT TRYING TO BE RACIST BUT U THINK THE BIG ASS NOSTRILS ON BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING BETTER ATHLETES? ITS LIKE THE INTAKE OF AN ENGINE IT GIVES U BETTER PERFORMANCE. ALSO WONDERING WHEN U SEE A MEXICAN FIGHTER AGAINTS A BLACK, THE MEX. LOOKS WAY SMALLER BUT THE SAME WEIGHT. AND THE FUNNY **** IS THAT THE MEX. IS USUALLY THE STRONGER AND HARDER PUNCHER. THE BLACK USUALLY MORE STAMINA AND SPEED.

haha i just watched bum fights tonight

I know there is a joke in here some where, but I would be afraid to bring it up to the hyper-sensitive public...or pc crowd :rolleyes: :D :cool:

Well...those comments were rather racist..
I'm reporting them..
hahahahaha..

IM NOT TRYING TO BE RACIST BUT U THINK THE BIG ASS NOSTRILS ON BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING BETTER ATHLETES? ITS LIKE THE INTAKE OF AN ENGINE IT GIVES U BETTER PERFORMANCE. ALSO WONDERING WHEN U SEE A MEXICAN FIGHTER AGAINTS A BLACK, THE MEX. LOOKS WAY SMALLER BUT THE SAME WEIGHT. AND THE FUNNY **** IS THAT THE MEX. IS USUALLY THE STRONGER AND HARDER PUNCHER. THE BLACK USUALLY MORE STAMINA AND SPEED.


:eek:

"I think it's becuase they lack the neccesities and bouyancy"

-Al Campanis

This thread is just begging to be locked.

From all the descriptions, I would have to think Tyson was a definate throwback, lacks brains - made 300 million and is broke, short and powerfull, that's him too - hmmm, makes me curious about a few fighters, and a guy I once had a run in with at a bar in Texas!!
:D

I DONT KNOW IF THATS A GOOD THING OR A BAD ONE? STILL WONDERING HOW THEY COMPARED TO MODERN HUMANS. OH YA JULIO WAS A TOUGH ASS MOFO IN HIS PRIME! ;)

unquestionably good
he was a fukin monster of a person

For a short time Neandertals and Homo spapiens co-exited.
Neandertals and Homo sapien existed at the same time 35,000-22,000 years ago in the same regions. Some believe the two spices intermingled. I recall in the past six months that they were finally able to get some DNA off of a Neandertal skeleton and found that there are no traces of there DNA in our DNA. Therefore, indicating they didn't intermingle BUT.....

Much like MULE that is product Horse and a donkey (2 different species). Mules can't breed. They exist but they can't bread with other Mules and then die. Don't get me wrong Mules can try to bread but because of the number of chromosomes it's sperm and egg won't take. Therefore, if the two species Neandertals and Homo Sapiens did mate their lovechild prob wouldn't be able to have young.

The Neanthertals were a race of primate during the middle ages. They stood at about 4 feet tall and were covered in black hair. They mostly lived in Western Europe and were known to eat very small children.

IM NOT TRYING TO BE RACIST BUT U THINK THE BIG ASS NOSTRILS ON BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING BETTER ATHLETES? ITS LIKE THE INTAKE OF AN ENGINE IT GIVES U BETTER PERFORMANCE. ALSO WONDERING WHEN U SEE A MEXICAN FIGHTER AGAINTS A BLACK, THE MEX. LOOKS WAY SMALLER BUT THE SAME WEIGHT. AND THE FUNNY **** IS THAT THE MEX. IS USUALLY THE STRONGER AND HARDER PUNCHER. THE BLACK USUALLY MORE STAMINA AND SPEED.
Who knows, you are thinking of something like RAM AIR right?
Blacks are built big, big bone and hard heads. Remember they were breed with the biggest of the biggest to make huge people at the time for slaves but now look at them. They dominate most sports. Blacks are strong fast and good athletes. Just look at the heavy weight division. Who knows where we all came from, one thing for sure ,there were people on this earth who lived way b4 our time.

Who knows, you are thinking of something like RAM AIR right?
Blacks are built big, big bone and hard heads. Remember they were breed with the biggest of the biggest to make huge people at the time for slaves but now look at them. They dominate most sports. Blacks are strong fast and good athletes. Just look at the heavy weight division. Who knows where we all came from, one thing for sure ,there were people on this earth who lived way b4 our time.


it's not just breeding and genetics, a lot of it is social too, black people are tougher than white because their lives are harder - you have to be a badass cause you might lose your life in the hood, black fighters have more determination too.

it's not just breeding and genetics, a lot of it is social too, black people are tougher than white because their lives are harder - you have to be a badass cause you might lose your life in the hood, black fighters have more determination too.
thats true too,blacks are the most copied people on this planet, natural bad asses

Russians are the special breed of people who can lift the most. :D Alexeev had put together 96 world records in HW lifting. :eek:


Many Russians were serfes (slaves, essentially) until 1861.

That plus tough climatic conditions plus the 1812 War plus World War I plus the Civil War plus World War II (S.U. lost +20 million people and inflicted 90% of Nazis' losses) plus many years of savage Stalinism have formed a profound stoic Russian mentality. Tzyu and Jirov are carriers of this mentality.

The Russian nation will continue to generate many more tough, spectacular fighters like Tzyu and Jirov.





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thats true too,blacks are the most copied people on this planet, natural bad asses

:rolleyes: None of you guys have a clue.

A limited diet meant that people of the ice age sometimes lacked enough food to stay warm and the right types of food to stay healthy. We don't know much at all about the metabolism and physiology of ice-age people. Modern human populations of the last ice age, beginning 24,000 years ago, probably had inhabited Europe long enough to possess both the bodies and the cultural equipment to withstand the cold as effectively as arctic peoples today.

Archaeological sites show that some northern groups specialized in hunting reindeer, and all groups depended on fatty meat and a careful selection of nontoxic organs from the animals they dispatched. Lean meat is harmful to humans over the long term, since it leads to protein poisoning. But seasonal hunting of well-fed animals probably captured large amounts of fatty meat that could be stored by drying and freezing. Because of huge herds of game animals, the ice-age diet wasn't always limited — but it was constantly full of meat and fat, supplemented seasonally by berries and a few other plants available during the short summers.

The Neanderthals, who died out in Europe about 10,000 to 5,000 years after modern humans first appeared on the continent, had large bodies adapted to cold temperatures. Like the first northern migrants of our own species, the Neanderthals had fire, inhabited caves and used skins to stay warm. But the earliest modern humans had delicately made sewing needles, indicating their ability to carefully tailor their clothes to suit the environment, and they probably relied on their cultural inventiveness to fend off the hazards of cold and starvation more readily than did earlier inhabitants of Europe. Based on careful chemical measurements, Neanderthal bones show levels of nitrogen isotopes similar to those of fully carnivorous animals. They relied almost entirely on meat, and tool-cut marks and postmortem breakage of the bones of Neanderthals and earlier Europeans suggest that these populations were desperate enough to practice cannibalism when times were very tough.

Surely many groups of Neanderthals and modern humans didn't make it through the harshest ice-age winters, and the inhabitants of warmer climes barely survived the most severe droughts. It gives one pause to think about our own evolutionary history: Our ancestors from the deep past encountered enormous challenges to survival, and many species very closely related to us became extinct. Ours is a past in which ancestors sometimes hung on by the skin of their teeth.

Some quality posting on this subject - good job guys.... ;)

Neanderthals were shorter, stronger and had thicker bones.
They would be good at boxing.

Well what ive heard is that the mongolians and especially the japanes is the smartest, the negros the fastes (they also got the biggest and smallest people) and the slaves and especially russians are the strongest and thay are also best at drinking.

IM NOT TRYING TO BE RACIST BUT U THINK THE BIG ASS NOSTRILS ON BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING BETTER ATHLETES? ITS LIKE THE INTAKE OF AN ENGINE IT GIVES U BETTER PERFORMANCE. ALSO WONDERING WHEN U SEE A MEXICAN FIGHTER AGAINTS A BLACK, THE MEX. LOOKS WAY SMALLER BUT THE SAME WEIGHT. AND THE FUNNY **** IS THAT THE MEX. IS USUALLY THE STRONGER AND HARDER PUNCHER. THE BLACK USUALLY MORE STAMINA AND SPEED.Not in the bigger weights.

Not in the bigger weights.
Ever wonder why?

Ever wonder why?I think, it has to do with way of life.

blacks mastered sports..asians technology..whites theft and murder

blacks mastered sports..asians technology..whites theft and murder



funny i dont ever remembering killing anyone.

funny i dont ever remembering killing anyone.
Does George W. Bush ring a bell! :D j/k

Does George W. Bush ring a bell! :D j/k


George W. Bush does not represent all of the white people...Dino said white people mastered theft and murder...he is generalizing like a dumb ass...I never killed anyone in my life. So obviously he lacks some intellect.

IM NOT TRYING TO BE RACIST BUT U THINK THE BIG ASS NOSTRILS ON BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING BETTER ATHLETES? ITS LIKE THE INTAKE OF AN ENGINE IT GIVES U BETTER PERFORMANCE. ALSO WONDERING WHEN U SEE A MEXICAN FIGHTER AGAINTS A BLACK, THE MEX. LOOKS WAY SMALLER BUT THE SAME WEIGHT. AND THE FUNNY **** IS THAT THE MEX. IS USUALLY THE STRONGER AND HARDER PUNCHER. THE BLACK USUALLY MORE STAMINA AND SPEED.I think it's generally the other way around the explosive punching and strength usually goes to the African - Americans and the stamina to the hispanics. Yeah your right about the Africans looking bigger it's because of bone density as someone stated earlier that goes for whites in general too.

I think it's generally the other way around the explosive punching and strength usually goes to the African - Americans and the stamina to the hispanics. Yeah your right about the Africans looking bigger it's because of bone density as someone stated earlier that goes for whites in general too.
SO WHAT U R TRYING TO SAY IS THAT BLACKS WEIGHT COMES MORE FROM MUSCLE THAN BONE RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT MEX. HAVE HEAVIER BONES,THAT TO ME MAKES THEIR PUNCHES HARDER.EXAMPLE TAYLOR LOOKED LIKE A BLOWN UP WELTER AND CHAVES LOOKED LIKE A 130 POUNDER BUT HIS PUNCHES WERE SO MUCH HARDER.OFCOURSE LIKE SOMEONE POINTED OUT EARLIER THAT IS ONLY IN THE SMALLER WEIGHTS.ALSO LOOK AT THE JOPPY TRINIDAD FIGHT JOPPY LOOKS LIKE HE WOULD BE THE STRONGER OF THE 2 BUT THAT WASNT THE CASE.IVE SEEN YORI BOY IN AGAINST SOME KILLER LOOKING BLACK FIGHTERS AND AS SOON AS HE WOULD A PUNCH U COULD TELL THE DIFF. IN POWER.ANOTHER FIGHT WOULD BE JOSE LUIS LOPEZ VS. IKE QUARTEY,IKE LOOKS STRONGER THAN HIM AND WASNT,JOSE KNOCKED HIM DOWN TWICE IN THAT FIGHT.THEN AGAIN I COULD JUST BE SEEING THINGS. :D

SO WHAT U R TRYING TO SAY IS THAT BLACKS WEIGHT COMES MORE FROM MUSCLE THAN BONE RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT MEX. HAVE HEAVIER BONES,THAT TO ME MAKES THEIR PUNCHES HARDER.EXAMPLE TAYLOR LOOKED LIKE A BLOWN UP WELTER AND CHAVES LOOKED LIKE A 130 POUNDER BUT HIS PUNCHES WERE SO MUCH HARDER.OFCOURSE LIKE SOMEONE POINTED OUT EARLIER THAT IS ONLY IN THE SMALLER WEIGHTS.ALSO LOOK AT THE JOPPY TRINIDAD FIGHT JOPPY LOOKS LIKE HE WOULD BE THE STRONGER OF THE 2 BUT THAT WASNT THE CASE.IVE SEEN YORI BOY IN AGAINST SOME KILLER LOOKING BLACK FIGHTERS AND AS SOON AS HE WOULD A PUNCH U COULD TELL THE DIFF. IN POWER.ANOTHER FIGHT WOULD BE JOSE LUIS LOPEZ VS. IKE QUARTEY,IKE LOOKS STRONGER THAN HIM AND WASNT,JOSE KNOCKED HIM DOWN TWICE IN THAT FIGHT.THEN AGAIN I COULD JUST BE SEEING THINGS. :D


It's funny you say that...because in fact...they did x rays and tests on Julio Cesar Chavez and found out that he has an abnormally thick skull...this is 100% fact. Have any of you heard this about Chavez?

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/neadmdn1.jpg

Neanderthals were human...they could speak...I hate to disappoint you all, but I've found out the truth...::sigh::

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/neadmdn1.jpg

Neanderthals were human...they could speak...I hate to disappoint you all, but I've found out the truth...::sigh::
no thats not right
they couldnt talk
neanderthals werent humans either
we both evolved from the same specie
but from the two, humans and neanderthals
only humans survived
its believed to be due to the fact that they lacked the vocal cords to speak
and therefore communicate
where as humans were able to communictae and devise plans as well as stradegy when they face there foes in battle

thats right
learned it all from the Discovery Channel

no thats not right
they couldnt talk
neanderthals werent humans either
we both evolved from the same specie
but from the two, humans and neanderthals
only humans survived
its believed to be due to the fact that they lacked the vocal cords to speak
and therefore communicate
where as humans were able to communictae and devise plans as well as stradegy when they face there foes in battle

thats right
learned it all from the Discovery Channel

You tell me since when has science been able to look at skulls to determine whether someone had vocal cords.
Neanderthals...as we call them were people who lived before The Great Flood (The 40 days 40 nights raining..THAT FLOOD!) Those people were different, because they could live to be longer.
There is no such thing as half-ape half-man...Neanderthals were a big hoax.. :(

SO WHAT U R TRYING TO SAY IS THAT BLACKS WEIGHT COMES MORE FROM MUSCLE THAN BONE RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT MEX. HAVE HEAVIER BONES,THAT TO ME MAKES THEIR PUNCHES HARDER.EXAMPLE TAYLOR LOOKED LIKE A BLOWN UP WELTER AND CHAVES LOOKED LIKE A 130 POUNDER BUT HIS PUNCHES WERE SO MUCH HARDER.OFCOURSE LIKE SOMEONE POINTED OUT EARLIER THAT IS ONLY IN THE SMALLER WEIGHTS.ALSO LOOK AT THE JOPPY TRINIDAD FIGHT JOPPY LOOKS LIKE HE WOULD BE THE STRONGER OF THE 2 BUT THAT WASNT THE CASE.IVE SEEN YORI BOY IN AGAINST SOME KILLER LOOKING BLACK FIGHTERS AND AS SOON AS HE WOULD A PUNCH U COULD TELL THE DIFF. IN POWER.ANOTHER FIGHT WOULD BE JOSE LUIS LOPEZ VS. IKE QUARTEY,IKE LOOKS STRONGER THAN HIM AND WASNT,JOSE KNOCKED HIM DOWN TWICE IN THAT FIGHT.THEN AGAIN I COULD JUST BE SEEING THINGS. :D

ur a dmb ass...hispanic is not a race..and ur talking with ur dumb anaologys like it is...felix trinidad has just as much african blood as william joppy...and most mexicans are european/aztec indian mix..u dumb ass

You tell me since when has science been able to look at skulls to determine whether someone had vocal cords.
Neanderthals...as we call them were people who lived before The Great Flood (The 40 days 40 nights raining..THAT FLOOD!) Those people were different, because they could live to be longer.
There is no such thing as half-ape half-man...Neanderthals were a big hoax.. :(
they can def tell that by looken at skulls and skeletons

u know what jack
i think ur thinkin of Nomads
they were people that didnt stay in one place
they just moved and roamed from place to place

It's funny you say that...because in fact...they did x rays and tests on Julio Cesar Chavez and found out that he has an abnormally thick skull...this is 100% fact. Have any of you heard this about Chavez?

Ya I heard the HBO commentaters talking about it.

It is unreal how many hard punches he could take in his prime.

I also heard that when his mother was pregnant he broke his mothers vientre(dont know what it is called in english). The doctor told his mom that this was unreal and that he would be a great soccer player or a great boxer.Im guessing he said that cause those r the main sports in Mexico.So ever since the day he was born people knew he was something special.

ur a dmb ass...hispanic is not a race..and ur talking with ur dumb anaologys like it is...felix trinidad has just as much african blood as william joppy...and most mexicans are european/aztec indian mix..u dumb ass
Im the dumbass?Where does it say hispanic is a race? Trinidad is mixed Joppy is 100% Afro American so no they dont have the same blood maybe some. I talk about Mexicans cause they have more Indian blood than anything else. I dont see any resemblence between Chaves and Klitshko at all.I know we r mixed with Spainards mostly but I dont any Spanish boxers to use as an example.You did say European. Mexico doesnt consist of Aztecs only there were Mayans and a bunch of others. In the state that I was born in Sonora they r called Yaqui Indians and that is where Chaves was born,Jose Luis Castillo,Jose Luis Ramirez,and Yori Boy Campas all have Yaqui blood also.

they can def tell that by looken at skulls and skeletons

u know what jack
i think ur thinkin of Nomads
they were people that didnt stay in one place
they just moved and roamed from place to place

I know what a Nomad is just as I know what a Neanderthal isn't..And I'm telling you a Neanderthal isn't the cross between an ape and a man..

lol, it's called evolution. Check it out. :D

http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/

Of course as with just about everything there is some debate.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3814

I believe in that things change as time progress, but I don't believe that evolution is the way we got here..

I know what a Nomad is just as I know what a Neanderthal isn't..And I'm telling you a Neanderthal isn't the cross between an ape and a man..
nah i never said it was cross
as far as i know
it goes apes
then humans and neanderthals evlved from those apes
then humans and neanderthals were basiclly at war for survival
and humans won

think, Rupert from survivor, lol :D

Ya I heard the HBO commentaters talking about it.

It is unreal how many hard punches he could take in his prime.

I also heard that when his mother was pregnant he broke his mothers vientre(dont know what it is called in english). The doctor told his mom that this was unreal and that he would be a great soccer player or a great boxer.Im guessing he said that cause those r the main sports in Mexico.So ever since the day he was born people knew he was something special.

LOL thats a rumor man, in a few documentaries they say Chavez was always an athelete and really wanted to be a soccer player (Never planned as one). However because of a bunch of fights he got into as young teenager he was directed toward boxing by community programs and his folks. About the skull issue technically based on the simple "rules" on how to score a knockdown Chavez' thicker skull would not make an difference no? After all a fighter looses his equilibrium after a hard jolt which causes the brain to move around. It wouldnt matter if his skull was 1" thick his head bounced hard enough in certain fights where it wouldnt have made a difference and lesser fighters would have gone down. Because 1) Their conditioning was not up to par, (chavez's conditioning was top notch maybe even the best ever in his prime) 2) They/or brain was suprised by the punch (Chavez constantly kept his eyes open even during heavy exchanges) 3) Their bravery or toughness gave out.

NOT because of a thicker skull. Example: Barrera has a metal plate in his skull and he still goes down and gets hurt just like he did before that.

In reality also Chavez's defense often gets over looked, he constantly changed his hands to guard his chin from an uppercut or a hook and a lot of the punches it seems he took... he didnt actually, example the taylor fight you hear the commentators amazed at a bunch of punches taylor landed like they were something special, but in reality half were either absorbed by his gloves didnt or connect cleanly also because of the placement of his hands.


Also

The size or strength of a person is often overrated as usually people think that bigger muscles means being able to handle his body and movement better or the same as a lighter person. However it does not work on a 1:1 ratio. Example a light (not bulky) person will have an easier time with most endurance issues than a bigger muscled person of the same height. Running, managing their weight, and using their body will be more EFFECTIVELY done by a lighter more compact person almost all the time.

About Neantherthals, it varies from source to source, I remember in one class they told me they were close to us, Only their speech wasnt as advanced. In fact the timeline poster they had on the wall (which came off an official educational press) had a caveman looking human labeled neantherthal (sp?) and well dressed human labeled homo sapien.

Later in another schooled it changed to them having huge eyebrow bones etc etc, then back and again and again changes.

blacks mastered sports..asians technology..whites theft and murder

Your custom title says it all.

Ultimate. The skull protects the brain. A thicker skull will be more difficult to crack and therefore will do a better job of protecting the brain. However during a boxing match the amount of fluid between tyhe brain and the skull is more important. The fluid keeps the brain from direct impact with the skull. When a boxer becomes dehydrated trying to lose weight in a short amount of time the amount of fluid protecting the brain is reduced and puts the boxer at much greater risk of sustaining a serious brain injury.

I believe this is what happened to Gerald McClellan.

Ultimate. The skull protects the brain. A thicker skull will be more difficult to crack and therefore will do a better job of protecting the brain. However during a boxing match the amount of fluid between tyhe brain and the skull is more important. The fluid keeps the brain from direct impact with the skull. When a boxer becomes dehydrated trying to lose weight in a short amount of time the amount of fluid protecting the brain is reduced and puts the boxer at much greater risk of sustaining a serious brain injury.

I believe this is what happened to Gerald McClellan.

Thats what I mean man, if your head gets jolted back and forth from hard punches wether u have a thicker skull or not wont help u out from getting KOed.

Thats what I mean man, if your head gets jolted back and forth from hard punches wether u have a thicker skull or not wont help u out from getting KOed.

If thats the case then why do i get shaken a lot easier to the chin than too the head.