welp, not a bad show tonight...at least it ended with a decent fight. nothing spectacular but whatever.

I really don't think i agree with the descision though. I can see both sides arguments as to why they should have won, but i think a draw was definately in order. oh well, such is life.

As far as someone coming back to the show....this should be good.

quite honestly i think its a steaming crock of **** that you can be eliminated fair and square and yet you get another shot, but judging from the white arms when they show a glimpse of the person, it's not bobby southworth.

One can only imagine. The show got seemingly boring besides the fighting part, so maybe they brought leben back to add some excitement. we shall see!

I thought it was great that Bobby got taken out in damn near the same fashion that Koscheck took out Leben. It can be said that its a ***** way of winning to just take someone down and lay on them for the decision, but I think its also ***** to backpedal and only counter-punch.

What happened to losing gracefully? What happened to a win is a win?
Guess that **** only matters when its in your (team's) favor, eh?

You got Koschecked, buddy. Tough luck.

I thought that the fight its self was a draw and that the 3rd round was in order, but a split decison in a fight I thought was a draw doesn't make me think twice.

BTW, you can tell by the hair and the pants who it is. Leben is back, and I wonder why?

Someone is probably coming back because Quarry will be out with his injury.

I thought that the fight its self was a draw and that the 3rd round was in order, but a split decison in a fight I thought was a draw doesn't make me think twice.

BTW, you can tell by the hair and the pants who it is. Leben is back, and I wonder why?

Damn, I didn't notice the hair. I had assumed Josh Koscheck would have been throwing a fit if it was Leben, and he seemed pretty chill.

I don't get why they're putting a guy back in after getting eliminated. That's gigantic bull****.

Anyway, I thought Bonner deserved the win. IMO, the first round could've gone either way. In the second round, Bonner in my eyes won more convincingly. He had the takedowns, was active while on top, and even scored while standing. Bobby had a couple of good shots standing and even reversed Bonner during that round, but I don't think that was enough.

Also, that Rafferty kid is a real *****. I don't understand why he's got so much animosity against Couture's team. He's stuck there, so he should try and get used to it. If I were him, I'd be thankful for being able to train with a world champ. He should also direct his animosity at Team Liddell for dropping him.

Anyway, I thought Bonner deserved the win. IMO, the first round could've gone either way. In the second round, Bonner in my eyes won more convincingly. He had the takedowns, was active while on top, and even scored while standing. Bobby had a couple of good shots standing and even reversed Bonner during that round, but I don't think that was enough.

Also, that Rafferty kid is a real *****. I don't understand why he's got so much animosity against Couture's team. He's stuck there, so he should try and get used to it. If I were him, I'd be thankful for being able to train with a world champ. He should also direct his animosity at Team Liddell for dropping him.

my sentaments exactly

I thought it was great that Bobby got taken out in damn near the same fashion that Koscheck took out Leben. It can be said that its a ***** way of winning to just take someone down and lay on them for the decision, but I think its also ***** to backpedal and only counter-punch.

What happened to losing gracefully? What happened to a win is a win?
Guess that **** only matters when its in your (team's) favor, eh?

You got Koschecked, buddy. Tough luck.Hahahaha, whatevea! The same way Leben did? It's called strategy and tactics dude. It ain't a toughman contest where you both just go out there and fight like two chickens!

Randy, Chuck and damn near everyone connected to the show was surprised they didn't AT LEAST go another round. Be for real and stop nuthugging. Koscheck clearly kicked Leben's ass; a far cry from Southworth's elimination.

They never wanted him there in the first place; he doesn't fit in their plans.

Wait, for me to even have an opinion that differs from you - I'm nut hugging? Since we're polar opposites, how about I just say you're the nutthugger and we kill any possibility of a meaningful conversation, deal?

Look, I didn't say he lacked tactics or strategy, god knows I wouldn't walk right for a guy with more reach than me. I was just drawing parallels to expose Southworth for the hypocritical goon he is.

Southworth is a solid fighter. Not top 10 caliber by no means, but definitely better than your average light heavyweight. I don't question his talent, it's just that he rubs me the wrong way. He's damn arrogant and he talks a whole lot of ****. If you're a guy looking to make it big in MMA, you don't go and disrespect Dana White on television. That's career suicide, man.

In a way, I'm a bit glad that he and Leben are out of the house, but then again those two guys gave the show its drama. By the way, my guess is that Leben is coming back.

Southworth is a solid fighter. Not top 10 caliber by no means, but definitely better than your average light heavyweight. I don't question his talent, it's just that he rubs me the wrong way. He's damn arrogant and he talks a whole lot of ****. If you're a guy looking to make it big in MMA, you don't go and disrespect Dana White on television. That's career suicide, man.

In a way, I'm a bit glad that he and Leben are out of the house, but then again those two guys gave the show its drama. By the way, my guess is that Leben is coming back.

If Quarry is really hurt and gets any input in his replacement, it will be Leben. He and Chris are like brothers.

If Quarry is really hurt and gets any input in his replacement, it will be Leben. He and Chris are like brothers.

I had the same feeling. I wonder how Koscheck is going to take the news.

Leben is the only guy that left thats worth bringin back.

they should bring back strange brew. him or chris sanford. they got eliminatd by challenges, not by losing fights. if you got beat, you shouldnt be allowed back. period. actually.....it doesn't matter the reason you were cut, you just simply shouldn't be allowed back. If quarry cant fight when he is called out, that's his problem. **** happens, he'll take it like a man. default win goes to whomever won and challenges him. thats how it should go in my eyes, just as they've said from day one. just as if bobby couldnt make weight.

They'd be doing Strangebrew a huge favor if they brought him back. In all honesty, he doesn't change the dynamic of the show at all. If anything, Team Couture just needs another live body.

I think it would be cool to have Leben back, but I just don't see it happening. He got beat fair and square, so unless there is evidence to contest the match results it just wouldn't be right. Much more likely that they'd take a person eliminated from challenges rather than fighting - probably the first one.

It's probably a good idea since getting eliminated without fighting is a sham for this show, and this way they dont have to juggle the teams around any more and risk causing rifts.

He and Chris are like brothers.... or girlfriends.

... or girlfriends.

Come on, bro. Leben's a dick, everybody knows it. But Quarry seems like a good guy. If Leben wsa your teammate, you'd be backing him up as well. Or maybe not.

Yeah when these guys spend so much time together it becomes a little more than just camaraderie. Nate got Leben's back just like Forrest was bent out of shape when Southworth got tossed.

he doesn't mean teammate like as in teammate on TUF. Leben and Quarry are from Team Quest, Randy's Team in Oregon. They train together daily, even long before TUF picked them up.

he doesn't mean teammate like as in teammate on TUF. Leben and Quarry are from Team Quest, Randy's Team in Oregon. They train together daily, even long before TUF picked them up.I didn't know that. Still, I don't care for Leben. If you do ... my tastes are my own. Cheer for your guy. Quarry seems alright and since he and Leben are teammates and long time friends it's understandable with his unconditional love. It's just queer when all the understanding is shown those two and yet Southworth and Koscheck receive the same type of bull**** criticism I heaped on Leben and Quarry. If I honestly agreed with you ... I wouldn't be typin now. I don't. **** it.

WAR KOSCHECK!!!!!