http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14148-2005Feb10.html (

Jeff Gannon AKA James Guckert

Russia is no longer a democracy! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/548518.stm)

White House Pays commentators to promote policies (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-30-spellings-williams_x.htm)

I agree that the government should be talking about those stories. I cant beleive that the Whitehouse has been setting themselves up with these planted reportes and paid off political commentators and gotten away with it.

Man, I just read this great book. It called "Constitutional Chaos" by Judge Andrew Napolitano of Fox News fame. Man, the guy really blows everthing wide open and exposes the government for the crooked entity that it is. He goes after everything that goes against the constitution and hold no puches, from The PATRIOT act to Waco and Ruby Ridge. I recommend this book to everyone.

"He destroyed my dream to fight Mike Tyson."

"He destroyed my dream to fight Mike Tyson."

I don't get it. Not profound, comedic or insightful in any way.

Courtesy link to first link from original post that is borked (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14148-2005Feb10.html)

The Economist has been sounding off about Putin for some time now, but few people seem to be listening. I disagree with many of their opinions but they're one of the few uncorrupt media outlets out there championing true liberal democracy, and I have to give them credit for that.

I don't get it. Not profound, comedic or insightful in any way.

Courtesy link to first link from original post that is borked (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14148-2005Feb10.html)

He destroyed my dream too. My dream to have an intelligent conversation.

Props to you Lukan for putting this up. But seriously the problem is not with our government. They aren't the ones who do the news. The problem is with people who would rather go to CNN.com to see who won the oscars than to find out about the real world.
I think that we always have and will press Russia toward democracy and Bush was speaking to the prime minister of Russia about it last week.

If Russia would get its **** together they could be a finacial powerhouse. They have tons of oil and rare minerals ripe for the picking. For starters they need to crack down on the mafioso over there and pay some ambitious people to make a go in industry. By the goverment constantly poking their nose in it nothing productive will ever get done.

Props to you Lukan for putting this up. But seriously the problem is not with our government. They aren't the ones who do the news. The problem is with people who would rather go to CNN.com to see who won the oscars than to find out about the real world.
I think that we always have and will press Russia toward democracy and Bush was speaking to the prime minister of Russia about it last week.

Oscars only come around one night a year.

Still, when Putin did this nobody squaked about it then. This happened after that attack on a school last year.

I have no love for the Bush administration as ya'll know. What I am mad about not hearing is how they have paid off commentators and planted folks like Jeff Gannon in the press corps. That is INTERFERENCE with the fourth estate which I find frightening.

Here's another; the news media seems to have lost interest in 9/11 stories, though nowhere near the full story has ever come out:

http://infowars.com/articles/world/canada_missle_reject_perplexes_us.htm

Props to you Lukan for putting this up. But seriously the problem is not with our government. They aren't the ones who do the news. The problem is with people who would rather go to CNN.com to see who won the oscars than to find out about the real world.
I think that we always have and will press Russia toward democracy and Bush was speaking to the prime minister of Russia about it last week.

all governments have been full of **** since since the enactment of civilization. all media outlets have been full of **** since the existence of human communication. and people know this but they still like to tune into news sources because it makes the average dip**** consumer feel informed & empowered. and there's nothin like stroking off the egos of the masses.

so in the end, companies get $$ for ratings donated to them by dumb people who like to feel smart. everybody wins :)

all governments have been full of **** since since the enactment of civilization. all media outlets have been full of **** since the existence of human communication. and people know this but they still like to tune into news sources because it makes the average dip**** consumer feel informed & empowered. and there's nothin like stroking off the egos of the masses.

so in the end, companies get $$ for ratings donated to them by dumb people who like to feel smart. everybody wins :)


you a a ******* tony. a big pink *******.

get your Slipknot ticket or die in a fire Pear.

get your Slipknot ticket or die in a fire Pear.

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Date: Jul 24, 2006 4:35 PM

911 - Steven Jones Speaks at L.A. Conference Hostet by Alex Jones

Steven Jones - a professor of physics at Brigham Young University who conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy - presents his findings at the 9/11 L.A. Conference hostet by Alex Jones. Currently, Steven Jones is investigating the hypothesis that the World Trade Center Twin Towers and WTC 7 were brought down by pre-positioned cutter charges.

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UN Honors Racist Dictator Who Boils People Alive With "Cultural Diversity" Award

Progressives and liberals who view the United Nations as a kinder, gentler alternative to domination of the geopolitical spectrum by Neo-Cons, should pay attention to this one - a top UN agency has bestowed a cultural diversity award upon Islam Karimov, the Uzbek dictator who likes to boil people alive.

<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/140906racistdictator.htm">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/140906racistdictator.htm</a>

Oscars only come around one night a year.

Still, when Putin did this nobody squaked about it then. This happened after that attack on a school last year.

I have no love for the Bush administration as ya'll know. What I am mad about not hearing is how they have paid off commentators and planted folks like Jeff Gannon in the press corps. That is INTERFERENCE with the fourth estate which I find frightening.


The Gannon story is the one that has upset me the most...how it got as little play as it did is both ridiculous and remarkable.

I would venture to say that 9 out of 10 folks out there have no clue who Jeff Gannon is and what his job entailed.

LOL I didn't notice it then but that story on Russia was dated back in '99.

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UN Honors Racist Dictator Who Boils People Alive With "Cultural Diversity" Award

Progressives and liberals who view the United Nations as a kinder, gentler alternative to domination of the geopolitical spectrum by Neo-Cons, should pay attention to this one - a top UN agency has bestowed a cultural diversity award upon Islam Karimov, the Uzbek dictator who likes to boil people alive.

<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/140906racistdictator.htm">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/140906racistdictator.htm</a>

Well you should be proud of our Administration then. The Bush administration criticized the dictators massacres and in response Uzbekistan kicked us out of the airbase we had troops stationed there. The United Nations gave this clown the award. The most corrupt organization in the world.

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Will Americans Seek Repeal Of Constitution Killing Enabling Act?

The end of the U.S. Constitution and the impending passage of George W. Bush's own Enabling Act are of little importance to a U.S. media fixated with the lurid e mails of a pervert politician. Will Americans focus on what really matters and seek a repeal of HR 6166?

<a href="http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/031006seekrepeal.htm">http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/031006seekrepeal.htm</a>

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Why The Quiet Release Of The Doubletree 9/11 Video?

There has been a total media blackout on the release of the Doubletree Hotel video that shows the explosion at the Pentagon on 9/11 but does not reveal any footage of the impact. This may suggest that the corporate media has adopted a new strategy of ignorance towards questions concerning the official 9/11 story.

<a href="http://www.infowars.net/articles/december2006/041206Doubletree.htm">http://www.infowars.net/articles/december2006/041206Doubletree.htm</a>

Yeah there good stories.

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Terror's Trivial When It's Not Muslims

How many people who aren't news junkies know that Madrid Airport was bombed on Saturday? Relatively few I would venture, and that's because major western governments and their media mouthpieces don't care about terror unless Muslims are behind it.

<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/040107terrortrivial.htm">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/040107terrortrivial.htm</a>

<b>Making Martial Law Easier</b>

<a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13807626&blogID=233139839&Mytoken=3EF286E4-E1C3-4FF6-A6C59D09DD8DCDFF70097906">The New York Times | Editorial | February 19, 2007</a>

A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night. So it was with a provision quietly tucked into the enormous defense budget bill at the Bush administration's behest that makes it easier for a president to override local control of law enforcement and declare martial law.

The provision, signed into law in October, weakens two obscure but important bulwarks of liberty. One is the doctrine that bars military forces, including a federalized National Guard, from engaging in law enforcement. Called posse comitatus, it was enshrined in law after the Civil War to preserve the line between civil government and the military. The other is the Insurrection Act of 1807, which provides the major exemptions to posse comitatus. It essentially limits a president's use of the military in law enforcement to putting down lawlessness, insurrection and rebellion, where a state is violating federal law or depriving people of constitutional rights.

The newly enacted provisions upset this careful balance. They shift the focus from making sure that federal laws are enforced to restoring public order. Beyond cases of actual insurrection, the president may now use military troops as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, terrorist attack or to any "other condition."

Changes of this magnitude should be made only after a thorough public airing. But these new presidential powers were slipped into the law without hearings or public debate. The president made no mention of the changes when he signed the measure, and neither the White House nor Congress consulted in advance with the nation's governors.

There is a bipartisan bill, introduced by Senators Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, and Christopher Bond, Republican of Missouri, and backed unanimously by the nation's governors, that would repeal the stealthy revisions. Congress should pass it. If changes of this kind are proposed in the future, they must get a full and open debate.

Neils, what about Peak Oil?

How Gloabal warming is just another ploy to keep people in a state of fear and not focusing on the REAL dangers..

Neils, what about Peak Oil?
You can only use so much for so long. I think there's a ton of oil out there, though. The people pressing the panic button may be premature...

Start a thread on the media publications and channels we can't trust.

Start a thread on the media publications and channels we can't trust.

all of them.... no newspapers either

You can only use so much for so long. I think there's a ton of oil out there, though. The people pressing the panic button may be premature...

What about "The End Of Suburbia."

I just saw it.

CONCLUSIVE.

Imagine the panic.. Of course most people make it seem like it's a theory..

all of them.... no newspapers either


Ahahahhaaa :fing02:

all of them.... no newspapers either
yeah, but on this site people call you crazy if you read or watch multiple sources...

you get slavik et al. coming on saying "you guys believe anything..." of you watch anything but Fox News or read anything other than an AP article...

Neils, I've heard you mention "Martial Law."

I'd bet my bottom dollar Peak Oil will be the trigger.

Neils, I've heard you mention "Martial Law."

I'd bet my bottom dollar Peak Oil will be the trigger.

Try fresh water..

Try fresh water..

That's also good - nice.

They've got us by the balls.

canada has almost 30% of the worlds fresh water..
I can see the US invasion NOW... You know its a friendly occupation for your own protection..

Here is a story that wasn't discussed in the press too much
But Canadas access to Information laws broke it open..
The NAFTA agreement includes a Clause.. That should California suffer a severe drought Canada would be obligated to Divert 2 rivers to save the day..
after all Canada exports 60% of its produce from California... it's 90% In the winter

Think they might KNOW something????

Here is a story that wasn't discussed in the press too much
But Canadas access to Information laws broke it open..
The NAFTA agreement includes a Clause.. That should California suffer a severe drought Canada would be obligated to Divert 2 rivers to save the day..
after all Canada exports 60% of its produce from California... it's 90% In the winter

Think they might KNOW something????

Definately, it looks like a premptive strategy for predetermined collapse.

Try fresh water..
it'll be a resource shortage - or potentially an organized protest/coup attempt...

VIDEO: BBC WAS HALF AN HOUR TOO EARLY REPORTING ON WTC7 COLLAPSE
On September 11th 2001, BBC World reported at 4:57pm Eastern Time that the Salomon Brothers Building (more commonly known as WTC7 or World Trade Building 7) had collapsed.

This even made the 5pm EST headlines, what is bizarre is that the building did not actually collapse until 5:20pm EST.

9/11 was unusual enough, without BBC World being able to foretell the destiny of WTC 7.

What is even stranger, is that the women reporter is telling the world that the building had collapsed when you can see it in the background over her left shoulder.

Then at 5:15pm EST, just five minutes before the building did actually collapse, her live connection from New York to London mysteriously fails.

So the question is, on 9/11 how did the BBC learn that WTC7 collapsed 23 minutes before it actually did.

Building Seven was 47 storeys, modern in design with structural steel throughout, yet symmetrically collapsed in 6.5 seconds, was someone leaking information.

No steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire, before or after 9/11, most people who find out about WTC7, believe it was brought down by a controlled demolition, even demolition experts agree.

Please Investigate 9/11 - Time is of the essence.


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VIDEO: BBC WAS HALF AN HOUR TOO EARLY REPORTING ON WTC7 COLLAPSE
On September 11th 2001, BBC World reported at 4:57pm Eastern Time that the Salomon Brothers Building (more commonly known as WTC7 or World Trade Building 7) had collapsed.

This even made the 5pm EST headlines, what is bizarre is that the building did not actually collapse until 5:20pm EST.

9/11 was unusual enough, without BBC World being able to foretell the destiny of WTC 7.

What is even stranger, is that the women reporter is telling the world that the building had collapsed when you can see it in the background over her left shoulder.

Then at 5:15pm EST, just five minutes before the building did actually collapse, her live connection from New York to London mysteriously fails.

So the question is, on 9/11 how did the BBC learn that WTC7 collapsed 23 minutes before it actually did.

Building Seven was 47 storeys, modern in design with structural steel throughout, yet symmetrically collapsed in 6.5 seconds, was someone leaking information.

No steel framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire, before or after 9/11, most people who find out about WTC7, believe it was brought down by a controlled demolition, even demolition experts agree.

Please Investigate 9/11 - Time is of the essence.


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BBC Responds to Building 7 Controversy; Claim 9/11 Tapes Lost

The BBC has been forced to respond to footage showing their correspondent reporting the collapse of WTC 7 before it fell on 9/11, claiming tapes from the day are somehow missing, and refusing to identify the source for their bizarre act of "clairvoyance" in accurately pre-empting the fall of Building 7.

<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/270207bbcresponds.htm">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2007/270207bbcresponds.htm</a>

While these greedy capitalists are worrying about Britney Spears and Anna Nicole Smith they should be worrying about the children in Africa that are sucking on mud just to get some water out of it...