hitterwitter
02-28-2005, 07:45 AM
We don't get to see the fight until friday in England. Was this an impressive win for Cotto? or for the first time have we seen his weakness, how good is cotto's chin?? Was the weight a problem for cotto?
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View Full Version : How good is Cotto's chin?? hitterwitter 02-28-2005, 07:45 AM We don't get to see the fight until friday in England. Was this an impressive win for Cotto? or for the first time have we seen his weakness, how good is cotto's chin?? Was the weight a problem for cotto? Cletus Funk 02-28-2005, 07:57 AM There were some decent aspects to his win - he did look powerful and pretty accurate but he did have a massive weight advantage. His defence was crap and his punch resistance was worrying. People have been trying to play it down a bit by saying it was a freak shot behind the ear but I've seen plenty of guys hit there without having the reaction that Cotto did against a fairly weak punching and much smaller man. The weight loss didn't appear to effect his stamina but it could have been an issue in his lack of punch resistance. He did come back well though and was taking over when it was stopped. spinksjinx 02-28-2005, 08:14 AM Cottos chin is still as great as everybody thought, he just got caught with a shot on the button that would have stumbled anybody who got hit with it. Cotto is still the man. MWCOFSU 02-28-2005, 08:39 AM Cottos chin is still as great as everybody thought, he just got caught with a shot on the button that would have stumbled anybody who got hit with it. Cotto is still the man. my sentiments exactly. the only thing we learned about this fight is that Corley may be one of the all-time worst finishers in boxing history. dansweeney 02-28-2005, 08:46 AM my sentiments exactly. the only thing we learned about this fight is that Corley may be one of the all-time worst finishers in boxing history. or, the only reason the fight was given to corley was on the condition that he lose. the guy is a former champion and a professional, he knows when a guy is ready to go, i think once he had cotto hurt he let up on him so he didnt knock him out, fixed fight spinksjinx 02-28-2005, 08:47 AM my sentiments exactly. the only thing we learned about this fight is that Corley may be one of the all-time worst finishers in boxing history. Did you see the look on Corleys face when he saw Cotto stumble. He hit Cotto with that great shot and backed up and waited to see Cottos reaction, he saw Cotto stumbling and was like :eek: I replayed that look like a thousand times...It was great....Corley is a funny guy, especially when he got busted on the hip and he ran...That fight was so great, I laughed through the whole thing. MWCOFSU 02-28-2005, 09:06 AM yea, that whole incident was funny. I heard PR gasp from my couch in Tallahassee, Fl. Corley was definitely :eek: after he saw Cotto out on his feet. Thats why he threw some of the worst punches of alllllll time to try and take Cotto out. That was not fixed. bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 09:14 AM the fight was a good fight overall, stop too early IMO, but Cotto did not get hit on the chin ,it was more of a temple shot that rocked him good, Chop Chop did not use this to his advantage at all. I think for the first time we have seen Cotto's weakness, had he been in there vs PBF or Kostya or any greater fighter, his record would not be a perfect one anymore spinksjinx 02-28-2005, 09:33 AM the fight was a good fight overall, stop too early IMO, but Cotto did not get hit on the chin ,it was more of a temple shot that rocked him good, Chop Chop did not use this to his advantage at all. I think for the first time we have seen Cotto's weakness, had he been in there vs PBF or Kostya or any greater fighter, his record would not be a perfect one anymore Good post, Indeed as stated earlier Corley isnt a good finisher at all. Its like he isnt expecting to win, but he catches his opponent with a good shot and then acts surprised. Corley isnt a ko artist but always seems to knock the best fighters out on their feet but fails to capitlize on it. He did starched Mayweather and could have had him out in the 4th provided he went to work. One thing that was odd about Corley was he rocked Cotto good and went straight working to the body. Why didnt he hit the place that was hurt? I realize body work is a good way to break down your opponent but if he is hurt you focus on that point. Lucky466 02-28-2005, 09:35 AM Cotto just didnt see the punch coming. He didnt expect to get hit there and thats the main reason he was so hurt from the shot. When you dont expect to get hit with something and you dont see it coming it feels 10 times harder than it is. bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 09:42 AM Good post, Indeed as stated earlier Corley isnt a good finisher at all. Its like he isnt expecting to win, but he catches his opponent with a good shot and then acts surprised. Corley isnt a ko artist but always seems to knock the best fighters out on their feet but fails to capitlize on it. He did starched Mayweather and could have had him out in the 4th provided he went to work. One thing that was odd about Corley was he rocked Cotto good and went straight working to the body. Why didnt he hit the place that was hurt? I realize body work is a good way to break down your opponent but if he is hurt you focus on that point. yeah you are right, he should of went head hunting on Cotto, but hey its over, I would love to see a rematch :boxing: spinksjinx 02-28-2005, 09:55 AM yeah you are right, he should of went head hunting on Cotto, but hey its over, I would love to see a rematch :boxing: Id pay to see it, it was action packed and very competitive...Unfortunately it will never happen. Cotto is aiming for Vivian....That will be a tough fight for Cotto, Harris is tall and can punch. Im pretty confident in Vivian against Cotto depending on his chin, although I prefer a rematch with Corley. tino 02-28-2005, 10:05 AM i think corley was badly hurt by cotto before landing his big shot , and he was fearing a counter plus he could have been himself and stunned by the amount of punishment he received in the firsts rounds. I WANT A REMATCH += El Jefe=+ 02-28-2005, 10:15 AM We don't get to see the fight until friday in England. Was this an impressive win for Cotto? or for the first time have we seen his weakness, how good is cotto's chin?? Was the weight a problem for cotto? i thought it was pretty good but after seing him get hit in the Corley fight im having some doubts he looked out of it for the whoile round, his legs where shaking and **** bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 10:53 AM Id pay to see it, it was action packed and very competitive...Unfortunately it will never happen. Cotto is aiming for Vivian....That will be a tough fight for Cotto, Harris is tall and can punch. Im pretty confident in Vivian against Cotto depending on his chin, although I prefer a rematch with Corley. if Harris is anything like he use to be, I pick him to win over Cotto after seeing Chop Chop do what he did markosg19 02-28-2005, 11:06 AM it seemed to me that the shot was around the side of the head and therefore that reaction was not down to him having a bad chin. All the great fighters woould have react6ed similarly bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 11:24 AM it seemed to me that the shot was around the side of the head and therefore that reaction was not down to him having a bad chin. All the great fighters woould have react6ed similarly Yeah that is exactly what I said (view post on pg 1) the shot was on the temple, not the chin, but he was rocked for a good minute :boxing: spinksjinx 02-28-2005, 11:31 AM Yeah that is exactly what I said (view post on pg 1) the shot was on the temple, not the chin, but he was rocked for a good minute :boxing: Just like the shot Roy took from Glen Johnson. It rocked his brain more than it did his chin. hitting the brain and shaking that up a bit will make your whole body wobble...All part of the nervous system, started at the brain and went right down his spinal cord. A GOOD MINUTE? Cotto was out the whole round. jack_the_rippuh 02-28-2005, 11:41 AM Cotto does have some very good punch resistance, I just saw the fight myself, but then again it wasn't from a heavy-hitter and he did get wobbled, If a harder puncher landed that shot...Cotto would have went to sleep. P.S. What the hell was Corley doing throwing those soft ***** punches up close? The Phantom Menace 02-28-2005, 11:43 AM Judging from the fight and the fact that he got rocked by a guy smaller than him and can't punch, I'd say his chin isn't very good. bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 11:46 AM Just like the shot Roy took from Glen Johnson. It rocked his brain more than it did his chin. hitting the brain and shaking that up a bit will make your whole body wobble...All part of the nervous system, started at the brain and went right down his spinal cord. A GOOD MINUTE? Cotto was out the whole round.yeah poor RJJ, but if I am not mistaken I think the punch landed @ about 1:30 into the fight bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 11:47 AM Judging from the fight and the fact that he got rocked by a guy smaller than him and can't punch, I'd say his chin isn't very good. it wasnt on the chin ;) theironone 02-28-2005, 11:54 AM i think the weight loss may have affected him, he looked so bad at the weigh in, i was very shocked. Of course his chin may be bad but i don't believe it is, i think he just got caught on the button when his mentality wasn't correct. I think he tought he could walk through Corley and it looked like he might in the 1st so out went the defense and thinking and in came the ricardo mayorga twin swinging for the fences for the KO. He got caught being careless, i actually thought he did well not to go down cos he was OUT, his legs were ****ed, he showed good instincts to grab like that. To me it looked like he was getting back on top in the 5th and well too, but i do think it was a bit of a premature stoppage, it did look to me like it was becoming a matter of time though and cotto wouldn't have made the same mistake as he did in the third, Corley look tired too which surprised me. It'l be very interesting when Cotto goes in with a well known banger, but having said that, he'l prob keep his chin embedded on his chest and look awesome again!!!! bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 12:09 PM i think the weight loss may have affected him, he looked so bad at the weigh in, i was very shocked. Of course his chin may be bad but i don't believe it is, i think he just got caught on the button when his mentality wasn't correct. I think he tought he could walk through Corley and it looked like he might in the 1st so out went the defense and thinking and in came the ricardo mayorga twin swinging for the fences for the KO. He got caught being careless, i actually thought he did well not to go down cos he was OUT, his legs were ****ed, he showed good instincts to grab like that. To me it looked like he was getting back on top in the 5th and well too, but i do think it was a bit of a premature stoppage, it did look to me like it was becoming a matter of time though and cotto wouldn't have made the same mistake as he did in the third, Corley look tired too which surprised me. It'l be very interesting when Cotto goes in with a well known banger, but having said that, he'l prob keep his chin embedded on his chest and look awesome again!!!!you dont think that it was a premature stoppage? Why not? Corley took a knee, none of the three shots fired from cotto landed when corley took the knee :boxing: Mike Tyson Jr. 02-28-2005, 12:18 PM He got wobbled from lite punches. His chin sucks. TheRealDunnagan 02-28-2005, 12:26 PM Cottos chin is still as great as everybody thought, he just got caught with a shot on the button that would have stumbled anybody who got hit with it. Cotto is still the man. u must have never been in the ring in your ****ing sad life a shot with both fighters leverage coming in like that doesnt matter where you get hit,tard,your goin down.that was the hardest punch of the fight bc of the leverage, if cotto got smackd on the jaw he wouldve done the same thing, dont ****ing post if you dont know what you are talking about, this goes for all of you,dont post if you are a clueless ape like this guy. TheRealDunnagan 02-28-2005, 12:27 PM We don't get to see the fight until friday in England. Was this an impressive win for Cotto? or for the first time have we seen his weakness, how good is cotto's chin?? Was the weight a problem for cotto? you are a douchebag for making this thread,then again what else comes out of where your from,dumb ****in heaves who think they know it all and pollute the boxing world with ****ty hometown fighters. say 'how well can cotto take a punch' otherwise you have a bunch of ****heads claiming 'it was a temple shot,omg his chin is still iron' you people are ******s that claim that spinksjinx 02-28-2005, 12:44 PM u must have never been in the ring in your ****ing sad life a shot with both fighters leverage coming in like that doesnt matter where you get hit,tard,your goin down.that was the hardest punch of the fight bc of the leverage, if cotto got smackd on the jaw he wouldve done the same thing, dont ****ing post if you dont know what you are talking about, this goes for all of you,dont post if you are a clueless ape like this guy. You sure that was directed at me? I said anybody who got hit with that shot would have stumbled, you say the same thing...Im confused. urdaddyinAZ 02-28-2005, 12:52 PM Cotto's chin is very solid. Like a bunch of people stated the punch Corley caught him with was to the temple, anytime you get hit to the temple you are going to lose your equilibrium. Kepp in mind that Cotto would likely never fight this style of fight again. He's normally a very solid defensive fighter that keeps his chin tucked almost the entire fight. He wanted top impress the home crowd by wowing them with a slugfest and it almost backfired. If Cotto keeps coming into the ring at that size, I see him being a signifcant force. Although I think Harris is a bad matchup for him. I think Cotto would be best served to fight the smaller guys, Harris is not a little 140 pounder himself. bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 01:00 PM You sure that was directed at me? I said anybody who got hit with that shot would have stumbled, you say the same thing...Im confused. me too clueless ape, I dont know what he was trying to say :confused: , I guess the exact same thing you said :D spinksjinx 02-28-2005, 01:01 PM Cotto's chin is very solid. Like a bunch of people stated the punch Corley caught him with was to the temple, anytime you get hit to the temple you are going to lose your equilibrium. Kepp in mind that Cotto would likely never fight this style of fight again. He's normally a very solid defensive fighter that keeps his chin tucked almost the entire fight. He wanted top impress the home crowd by wowing them with a slugfest and it almost backfired. If Cotto keeps coming into the ring at that size, I see him being a signifcant force. Although I think Harris is a bad matchup for him. I think Cotto would be best served to fight the smaller guys, Harris is not a little 140 pounder himself. After reviewing the fight for a second time, I definately seen it in the temple.... Someone stated earlier Cotto always slugs it out in his hometown but outside of Puerto Rico he isnt as aggressive at such an intense rate. Cotto better pray he doesnt get in their with Vivian or it could get UGLY. theironone 02-28-2005, 02:51 PM you dont think that it was a premature stoppage? Why not? Corley took a knee, none of the three shots fired from cotto landed when corley took the knee :boxing: I never said don't i said do, check what i put first theironone 02-28-2005, 02:52 PM you are a douchebag for making this thread,then again what else comes out of where your from,dumb ****in heaves who think they know it all and pollute the boxing world with ****ty hometown fighters. say 'how well can cotto take a punch' otherwise you have a bunch of ****heads claiming 'it was a temple shot,omg his chin is still iron' you people are ******s that claim that Your a ****in idiot bigdlb12 02-28-2005, 03:00 PM I never said don't i said do, check what i put first you are right, my bad jayschre 02-28-2005, 03:38 PM You sure that was directed at me? I said anybody who got hit with that shot would have stumbled, you say the same thing...Im confused. All you need to read about this cat is the custom name under his username,CLUELESS DICKHEAD, SAY IT ALL! This guy is just another ****tard that's here to start ****! Soldier01 02-28-2005, 03:59 PM i thought it was pretty good but after seing him get hit in the Corley fight im having some doubts he looked out of it for the whoile round, his legs where shaking and **** Corley didn't expose anything new at all!! Cotto reacted the same way any other prize fighter would react if he was clocked on the temple. This should create no doubts what so ever. No one is immune to a shot like that. Soldier01 02-28-2005, 04:01 PM Judging from the fight and the fact that he got rocked by a guy smaller than him and can't punch, I'd say his chin isn't very good. What is up with this chin ****!! The kid got caught right on the temple. Again it doesn't take strong puncher to hurt someone there. riz 02-28-2005, 04:12 PM he was also carless and reckless, and he still stayed up nothin rong psychopath 02-28-2005, 04:27 PM Cottos chin is still as great as everybody thought, he just got caught with a shot on the button that would have stumbled anybody who got hit with it. Cotto is still the man. All fighters . . . irregardless of stature, hit with a solid powerful punch can go down anytime. It already happened to the best of them. Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Hearns etc etc. Soldier01 02-28-2005, 04:28 PM he was also carless and reckless, and he still stayed up nothin rong In my opinion he shouldn't fight in P.R. ever again. That crowd played a huge roll in him coming out fighting recklessly the way he did. He'll be fine, This was definitely a learning experience for him. Nothing wrong. Saint3605 02-28-2005, 06:16 PM In my opinion he shouldn't fight in P.R. ever again. That crowd played a huge roll in him coming out fighting recklessly the way he did. He'll be fine, This was definitely a learning experience for him. Nothing wrong. i agree, also Cotto got hit with a couple clean chin shots and he walked thru most of them. I really thought after that temple shot with more than 2:00 left Cotto was gonna get Koed Corley didn't take advantage though. the ref robbed us from seein the rest of a good fight Boxingfan81 02-28-2005, 07:07 PM He got wobbled from lite punches. His chin sucks. How many losses does Mike have? .::EnRiQuE::. 02-28-2005, 07:11 PM In my opinion he shouldn't fight in P.R. ever again. That crowd played a huge roll in him coming out fighting recklessly the way he did. He'll be fine, This was definitely a learning experience for him. Nothing wrong. good f*cking point. because of the crowd he seemed like he wantedto put on a show for them. first you win the fight, then you put on a show for ur hometown. wreckless abandonment of defense was cotto's problem in his fight with corley. Ptownz_fynestz 02-28-2005, 07:22 PM its not does he have a good chin its how many shots do u take to tha head before u go down or wobble and he took some big shots |