I have the utmost respect for him because he was knocked out twice in devastating fashion but had the balls, psyche and will power to come back and not only dominate the person who knocked him out but destroy all the other misfits that came his way. It's obvious that Jones, Tyson, Delahoya do not have the balls to redeem themselves after getting an ass whipping.

He ran from Vitali....if he didn't run he would have retired IMMEDIATELY! **** Lewis....

He ran from Vitali....if he didn't run he would have retired IMMEDIATELY! **** Lewis....
Do you think if he fought Vitali again that he would have opened up Vitali the same way?

He ran from Vitali....if he didn't run he would have retired IMMEDIATELY! **** Lewis....

Hey I understand that you are a big Vitali fan and believe it or not I am also but you have to call like it is. Yes Vitali looked good fighting Lewis but the bottom line is that Vitali was hurt and in boxing you don't necessarily have to knockout or decision a boxer to win, if you hurt him to a degree that the ringside Dr's believe he can no longer go on, well that is also a victory.

the guys almost forty if not already..he ruled the roost for more than a decade with only 2 setbacks which he avenged.anyone done that for a while???

hes a three time world champion, has beaten every fighter hes faced and OMG newsflash he was british

seems the last bit over rules all the rest

Lewis knew he would lose, he knew he would be broken. I see a truly hard man in Vitali's face when he fights. Lewis did everything but hit him over the head with a purse or rake his eyes with a hairbrush to win because HE WAS AFRAID! :eek:

i agree with you if he only would have came back to try and prove himself against V.K



Great carrer he just went out on a bad note

The ringside physician for the Lewis/Klitschko fight was a guest of PANIX promotions at the Golota/Lewis fight (another fix)...I sat right ****ing next to him. They told Lewis NOT Vitali first that they were stopping the bout that says it all.... :rolleyes:

The ringside physician for the Lewis/Klitschko fight was a guest of PANIX promotions at the Golota/Lewis fight (another fix)...I sat right ****ing next to him. They told Lewis NOT Vitali first that they were stopping the bout that says it all.... :rolleyes:

When you say "fix" what did you mean by that? I heard the rumors of Golota getting injected with a painkiller improperly that evening but do you know something else?

hey I gotta give them credit

no one cries like Vitali fans

hey I gotta give them credit

no one cries like Vitali fans
Except Toney, Tito, and Pac fans.

Except Toney, Tito, and Pac fans.


Nope Vitali fans take the grand prize of being the biggest cry babies in the sport

Nope Vitali fans take the grand prize of being the biggest cry babies in the sport
I don't know..
"Jackin stiffs" does do alot of whining over Toney.

Toney fans are the most unrealistic fans out there.

Toney fans are the most unrealistic fans out there.
Damn right.
****ing ape lovers.

im not talking aboyt unrealistic im talking bout cyrbabies

all Vitali fans do is ***** about the Lewis fight

he lost fair and sqare

Somehow a world famous Palm Beach orthopedic surgeon screwed up a common skin popping procedure that Golota would usually have done to his bum soccer knee. This jackass injected the lidocaine into his femoral artery! He later paid Golota $930,000 in an out-of-court settlement. Lewis knew that Golota was deranged...Golota passed out twice with Lewis' representative present during the hand wrapping!

Only a woman would make someone wait around for a year and then not put out...her name is Lennox!

Yeah and interestingly enough Roy Jones was in a very similar position as Lennox after his loss to Tarver. Both one punch KO victims, and both aging champions beaten and counted out. Being knocked out by one punch is a tremendous thing to get over mentally. You realize that in the rematch the man in front of you could beat you in an instant. And too put on a masterpiece like Lennox did against Rahman was truly remarkable, even moreso when you look at the age and the fact many questioned his desire to continue.

My point is fairly or not fighters that can't comeback from a loss in their career will take a hit in how they are placed in history. The fact Lewis was able to do that is a real feather in his cap. Roy Jones on the other hand will not be able to do that, in his comeback fight he lost by another brutal KO to an even lesser talent than his previous conqueror(Tarver) and if he's smart will retire. Some will say that Roy lacked the heart to comeback like Lennox did and claim that perhaps he was always a front runner. That maybe the case and that will be a criticsm many will have, I asure you.

There maybe some truth to that claim, but one thing is certain Roy Jones reign as PFP king was long and at the same time unevenful. Often called reluctant to take on the very best and test his great abilities in deeper water. Always taking only calculated risks. And in the end it all caught up to him. His fall was quick, shocking and brutal and his long delusional fans will no longer claim him to be the best of all time pfp and his critics will be aplenty as question everything from his realatively weak opposition to his chin, to his heart. Definetly not the ending Roy wanted.

Did anyone see Lewis vs. McCall 2? It was horrible. They took McCall out of rehab for cocaine to train. During the fight at the end of one of the rounds, rather than go back to his corner, McCall walked around the ring crying. He didn't want to fight anymore and his corner sent him out for another round anyways. He wouldn't fight back and Lewis swung on him and still couldn't hurt him. The ref stopped it and Lewis put his arms up like he did something great.

Yes it was quite possibly the oddest thing I have ever seen a fighter do during a boxing match. All that entertainment and he didn't even get paid. If he didn't want to fight he just have taken a punch from Lewis and dove into the ropes Fabio Moli style.

Did anyone see Lewis vs. McCall 2? It was horrible. They took McCall out of rehab for cocaine to train. During the fight at the end of one of the rounds, rather than go back to his corner, McCall walked around the ring crying. He didn't want to fight anymore and his corner sent him out for another round anyways. He wouldn't fight back and Lewis swung on him and still couldn't hurt him. The ref stopped it and Lewis put his arms up like he did something great.
when he did that the ref asked him if he wanted to continue..he said no then went and sat in his corner and his men were screaming at him dont do this to yourself dont do it...then the ref asked again if he wanted to fight and he said yes...

he was ****ed and the aftermath showed that..he ranted for more than 30 minutes.

AND he got beat by frank bruno.....and while were talking about againg fighters i noticed tim witherspoon was in action recently

He ran from Vitali....if he didn't run he would have retired IMMEDIATELY! **** Lewis....

Nichtgeflechten your a prick be quiet, you have noting to say we want to here.

Lewis in the HW division was a god period, and would KO Vitali no matter how many times they fought, so deal with it.

Lewis is an overrated bum.

Lewis is definitely not a bum but he lost to Mercer, got KO'd by one punch twice, was BADLY outboxed by Bruno until his Hail Mary left, fought a dirty fight against Grant, got knocked down by Akinwande (holding just as much as he was) and ran like a ***** from Vitali to hide behind Corrie Sanders (who he avoided for good reason as Sanders would have smoked him). The proper term is "*****" not "bum".

Lewis is definitely not a bum but he lost to Mercer, got KO'd by one punch twice, was BADLY outboxed by Bruno until his Hail Mary left, fought a dirty fight against Grant, got knocked down by Akinwande (holding just as much as he was) and ran like a ***** from Vitali to hide behind Corrie Sanders (who he avoided for good reason as Sanders would have smoked him). The proper term is "*****" not "bum".


Lewis was knocked down by Aikinwamde?

Somehow a world famous Palm Beach orthopedic surgeon screwed up a common skin popping procedure that Golota would usually have done to his bum soccer knee. This jackass injected the lidocaine into his femoral artery! He later paid Golota $930,000 in an out-of-court settlement. Lewis knew that Golota was deranged...Golota passed out twice with Lewis' representative present during the hand wrapping!



Then why the **** did they allow Golota to fight if he passed out twice. I never heard of the out of court settlement. Golota's corner should have known that he was in no way shape or form to fight but they allowd him to fight anyway? I find that a bit hard to believe. I heard that they were searching for Golota up to about a half hour before he was scheduled to fight. He supposedly was wandering the area where the fight took place.

You can't even think of one good reason why they didn't cancel the LEWIS/GOLOTA fight? How about this one: MILLLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF LONG TERM LITIGATION. Lou Duva is an A1 scumbag when he needs to be (ask Rusty Rosenberger)...I know from personal experience. Golota got $930,000 from the orthopedic surgeon whose first name starts with "S" & last name starts with "K" and he is from the Palm Beaches area of Florida. There was an NDA so that is all I will say but it's not too hard to let your fingers do the typing if you know what I mean.

Lewis was knocked down by Aikinwamde?

Yes the referee called it a slip but it was a CLEAR knockdown even Merchant commented on it.

NichtGeflechten: I am curious as to your opinion of who would win if Golota fought Vitali? I think Golota poses the biggest threat to Vitali.

The only threat to Vitali is bad luck....preparation and perspiration will win out a majority of the time and Vitali is ALWAYS fit and ALWAYS prepared. I think Golota has bad shoulder/clavicle problems now from his deadly car wreck and his punches are not sharp enough to keep Vitali off of him....

Here is an interview done recently with Golota. Very interesting comments on the WBC champ.



Exclusive Interview w/ Andrew Golota
Reported By: Boxing Insider - 06.07.2004 02:09 AM


NEW! Andrew Golota Interview!
By Scoop Malinowski

Here's the latest from one of the most feared and avoided heavyweights on the planet.

*************.com: What's new Andrew?

Andrew Golota: "Nobody wants to fight me. Even Klitschko said he's not ready for me yet. Ruiz - he doesn't want to either. Nobody want to fight me now. Chris Byrd won't talk to King. He's got his lawyer talking for him."

*************.com: Were you happy with your performance vs. Byrd?

Andrew Golota: "No, I thought I could have done better. But I still feel I won the fight. My left hand wasn't working how it was supposed to, my left hand wasn't as good as it could have been. I was a little not so right, preparation. I was hoping now my conditioning, everything gonna be better. But he doesn't want to fight me."

*************.com: After the fight, Chris Byrd said on ESPN that he could have boxed circles around you all night long, but he chose to fight you on the ropes to give the fans a good show...your comment?

Andrew Golota: "That is bulls---. I fought like that because I kept him there. Did you see the fight again?

*************.com: Yes, twice.

Andrew Golota: "When he bent over from the body shots, he couldn't move. I kept him on the ropes, keep hitting him. He didn't want to stay there. He stayed there because I wanted him to stay there."

*************.com: Byrd wants over $2 million for the rematch. In your opinion, is he pricing himself out of the fight to avoid you? Is the man known for fighting anybody actually ducking you?

Andrew Golota: "He's ducking me BIG TIME! It's bulls--- what he do. It's unfinished business. What kind of champ is he? He lost the fight."

*************.com: Byrd's lawyer wants Byrd to earn over $2 million for the rematch, that's more than triple what he made in April.

Andrew Golota: "He wants his cut! I can fight him for free. I fight him for free anytime. If I was him, I'd ask for $10 million to fight me."

*************.com: How have the fans treated you in public since the Byrd fight?

Andrew Golota: "Fans, people like me. They always like me. This fight much warmer the people talk about me."

Both Golota's comment on Vitali and Vitali taking on all comers can both be true. Klitschko would have considered Golota immediately as an opponent if Andrew was justly awarded the decision against Byrd and more recently if Klitschko was not fighting Williams who suddenly catapulted into the spotlight by beating Tyson. Remember Vitali wants to unify the belts....when Golota beats Ruiz they will get it on.

Lewis was knocked down by Aikinwamde?

NO, dont believe a ****ing word this guy says

he's full of ****, especially when talking about Lewis

Jose I think you drink too much tequila feo.....Akinwande clearly knocked Lewis down in round 3 but because it happened while they were crammed together the referee incorrectly thought he had slipped. HBO thought otherwise.

sure thing

whatever you say

Why do Tyson and Bowe both get a free pass for ducking Lewis?

The ringside physician for the Lewis/Klitschko fight was a guest of PANIX promotions at the Golota/Lewis fight (another fix)...I sat right ****ing next to him. They told Lewis NOT Vitali first that they were stopping the bout that says it all.... :rolleyes:

You are the only other person that seems to agree with me about Golota/Lewis!!! I think it was obvious because Golota almost didn't show up for this fight. (I believe because he was being forced to take a dive) and after the fight he fainted and had to be taken to the hospital. (because he was slipped something just to make sure he los.) Of course I could be wrong but that is my opinion!!! That fight was really strange!!!

Lewis is definitely not a bum but he lost to Mercer, got KO'd by one punch twice, was BADLY outboxed by Bruno until his Hail Mary left, fought a dirty fight against Grant, got knocked down by Akinwande (holding just as much as he was) and ran like a ***** from Vitali to hide behind Corrie Sanders (who he avoided for good reason as Sanders would have smoked him). The proper term is "*****" not "bum".

You forgot about Briggs punching himself out!!! He was knocking Lewis around the ring like a ragdoll!!!

I knew there was some funny business going on in that fight because Golota looked like he was ****ing high as a kite. This is why I sometime's hate this sport because **** like this never answers the question at hand. If both were normal, no funny business at work, who would defeat the other. Golota dominated Bowe who was of equal value to Lewis as a boxer and Golota got smoked.

Lewis, the greatest of his time

Yes...Lewis is definitely the gayest of all time...with Donald "Crackhead" Curry right behind him and Emile Griffith pulling up to the REAR! AH-OOOO-GAH!

I am neither a "nuthugger" or a "hater". I try ro remain unbiased in these discussions. That being said, I don't see how anyone can think the there was a satisfactory ending to the Lewis-Vitali fight. Sure a "W" is a "W", but come on. How many people wanted to see a rematch between Tyson and Ruddock? Everyone did even though Tyson got the win in the first fight. Lewis should have given a rematch. That he didn't speaks volumes.

As for Lewis's career, I think the best description is that the sum is percieved as greater than the parts. Sure Bowe and Tyson ducked him, but he ducked Byrd, Ruiz and Vitali. The roles were simply reversed. Lewis was avoided because there was more risk than reward for fighting him at that time. Once Lewis was the big dog, he avoided the same thing.

He teed off on a mentally disentigrating McCall and couldn't take him out. He suffered two one punch KO's. Lewis was a good fighter, no doubt. Top ten alltime? No way, not a chance. But neither is Vitali at this point.

[QUOTE=Foreman]I am neither a "nuthugger" or a "hater". I try ro remain unbiased in these discussions. That being said, I don't see how anyone can think the there was a satisfactory ending to the Lewis-Vitali fight. Sure a "W" is a "W", but come on. How many people wanted to see a rematch between Tyson and Ruddock? Everyone did even though Tyson got the win in the first fight. Lewis should have given a rematch. That he didn't speaks volumes.

As for Lewis's career, I think the best description is that the sum is percieved as greater than the parts. Sure Bowe and Tyson ducked him, but he ducked Byrd, Ruiz and Vitali. The roles were simply reversed. Lewis was avoided because there was more risk than reward for fighting him at that time. Once Lewis was the big dog, he avoided the same thing.

He teed off on a mentally disentigrating McCall and couldn't take him out. He suffered two one punch KO's. Lewis was a good fighter, no doubt. Top ten alltime? No way, not a chance. But neither is Vitali at this point.[/QUOTE



Couldn't agree more!!! Atleast Vitali wants to prove to be one of the best!!! In the end of his career it all came down to money with Lennox... He even said it himself!!!

Vitali quit against Chris Byrd.
I don't care what his injury was, he should have went on & finished the fight.

Tyrell Biggs had his right collarbone broken, by a punch, in the second round of his fight with a big hitter named Jeff Sims.
Tyrell hung tough, took the pain, & overworked his left hand to WIN a decision.

Jeff Fenech beat Marcos Villasana like a drum despite two broken hands & a broken cheekbone. All injuries were sustained early in the fight.

I was never a Lewis fan, but I never questioned his balls when it came to taking on the best guys.
He did not fear Vitali. he just learned he'd have to train much harder to rid the ring of the dorky Ukranian. Lennox no longer had the desire to train as hard as was needed.
A motivated Lewis would have seriously injured Klit.
All of you Klit fans should THANK Lewis for not facing your boy again.
This enables you to thump your fake pride filled chests.

I just think that Lennox knew that he would have to put forth his best in order to defeat Vitali soundly the second time around and he was just not willing to go through the serious preparation that it normally takes to win decisively. He took his victory over Vitali and ran into retirement.

Vitali quit against Chris Byrd.
I don't care what his injury was, he should have went on & finished the fight.

Tyrell Biggs had his right collarbone broken, by a punch, in the second round of his fight with a big hitter named Jeff Sims.
Tyrell hung tough, took the pain, & overworked his left hand to WIN a decision.

Jeff Fenech beat Marcos Villasana like a drum despite two broken hands & a broken cheekbone. All injuries were sustained early in the fight.

I was never a Lewis fan, but I never questioned his balls when it came to taking on the best guys.
He did not fear Vitali. he just learned he'd have to train much harder to rid the ring of the dorky Ukranian. Lennox no longer had the desire to train as hard as was needed.
A motivated Lewis would have seriously injured Klit.
All of you Klit fans should THANK Lewis for not facing your boy again.
This enables you to thump your fake pride filled chests.

Why Lewis would have only done worse than he did the first time they met. This just in Lewis is old.

R E S P E C T Ll!!

One of the top 5 all time heavyweights.

The ringside physician for the Lewis/Klitschko fight was a guest of PANIX promotions at the Golota/Lewis fight (another fix)...I sat right ****ing next to him. They told Lewis NOT Vitali first that they were stopping the bout that says it all.... :rolleyes:


Not sure what it matters who they told first. If they were stopping it, word would eventually get 'round to everyone, I'm sure. Sure, telling Klitchko's corner would've been the right way to start, but in the end, it hardly matters. The cut was so bad that any further damage could've risked permanent injury, and the stoppage was well-timed, if not a bit late.

Both fighters performed admirably, Klitchko becuase it was so utterly unexpected, and Lewis because of his age and lack of conditioning. Lewis won by a TKO stoppage, and deserves the win, just as Klitchko deserved the fans he won over by his performance in that fight, and the chance to fight Sanders for the title that his performance against Lewis, and later Johnson, made possible.

Not sure how others feel about the Lewis/Klitchko fight, but for me, it was one of the greatest heavyweight fights I'd ever had the pleasure of watching live.


hey I gotta give them credit

no one cries like Vitali fans

Ya know, you might want to use a bit less of a generalization there. I'm a Klitchko fan, and I really can't remember ever "crying" about his loss to Lewis, though I'm also a Lewis fan.



Lewis in the HW division was a god period, and would KO Vitali no matter how many times they fought, so deal with it.


Lewis was a big guy, a very talented boxer, and had no small amount of ring smarts (and, unfortunately, a big mouth). Against Klitchko, the fight was over before his conditioning really began to play a large part in the fight, and his reflexes didn't appear to have faded just yet. And considering that the fight was very nearly over for Lewis in round 2, I really don't see how you could even begin to make that call. Had they fought again 6 months later, I'd have given either fighter a 50/50 chance of pulling off the win by KO. Just because Lewis opened a cut that stopped the fight the first time 'round doesn't mean he could do it again. It could've very well have ended with Klitchko getting one more clean shot in during the first or second round and stopping Lewis by KO. Klitchko is ugly in the ring, but nobody can say he's ineffective...far from it.


Lewis is an overrated bum.

Ugh....I'm not even going to type the response I had planned out for this little comment.


NichtGeflechten: I am curious as to your opinion of who would win if Golota fought Vitali? I think Golota poses the biggest threat to Vitali.


Me too :) About the biggest threat, I mean. Only problem is that, as has been mentioned, Golotta's ruined shoulder took his jab away, but since Klitchko tends to answer a jab with a counter-right over the top of it, that actually might help keep Golotta out of trouble. I think it'd be the best matchup in the division right now, and I hope like hell we get to see it at the end of this year.

I think the fact that he was knocked out twice and he cameback and knocked them out shows what kind of boxer he was. He deserves alot of respect.

I respect a man who comes back after being koed to ko his opponent as he did on 2 ocasions(even though he shouldnt have lost to neither).

But i cant respect a man who luckily wins a fight he was truly losin and than tells his opponent that they will have rematch.
And what happened ???
He didnt keep heis word he retired and now he *****es around.

lewis gets nothing from me

(Number 1 Lewis Hater)

u hate lewis

we hate you

only if u know what kinds of talents he hadd
he would DESTROY a prime vitali

and he would destroy u

u hate lewis

we hate you

only if u know what kinds of talents he hadd
he would DESTROY a prime vitali

and he would destroy u

who is we, is that u and lewis? or are u trying to say all of england hates me? and no a prime lewis wouldnt have destoryed vitali imo, lewis's chin was only good when he was older LOL a prime lewis woulda got KO'd in round 2 i say getting older saved lewis cause it seemed to have hardened his chin

They say Lewis dropped the WBA and IBF belts because there was more money and fan interest in other fights. Yet Lewis retired rather than rematch Vitali for a boat load of money and tremendous fan interest.

It doesn't take a psychiatrist to figure this one out.

Are you fooled?