View Full Version : My robbery/fight at the Ringside Tournament


King James III
08-21-2009, 07:40 AM
U can be the judge of who won this fight. I didnt know it was legal in AM boxing to fight twice in one day, but this was my second fight the first day of the tourney the first was at 11 am and this fight was at 6 pm. The ref took 4 points for holding, two of them were warnings. he told me afterwards that warnings are point deduction( never heard of that ****). Enjoy lol and pleez comment

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RightCross94
08-21-2009, 08:01 AM
Dont worry about crap like that, you fought twice in one day, had a **** ref....not much you can do

theres so much crap in am boxing , with the scoring, the refs etc, my coach tells us not to give a **** what the judges say, he'll tell us whether we won or not

but of course thats all well and good for ordinary fights maybe but you wanna win these tournaments lol and bad decisions or reffing in those can really get you down, seen it happen to a few guys and its just not fair

Akucapri
08-21-2009, 08:06 AM
In point scoring how much is reducted for a foul?

or a KD?

King James III
08-21-2009, 01:00 PM
In point scoring how much is reducted for a foul?

or a KD?

actually I dont know...someone told me 2 points

Tu Pai
08-21-2009, 04:26 PM
Damn that was some bs! I've seen worse thou. you dropped him like a bad habit!

King James III
08-21-2009, 05:58 PM
Damn that was some bs! I've seen worse thou. you dropped him like a bad habit!

lol thanx.......

Junito-Rulez
08-21-2009, 08:34 PM
LMAO you whooped him, it was a hometown decision. The ref was worse than Joe Cortez. Your opponent was tough and had a big heart, though. You threw a lot of power punches, i think you could have outbox him with the very good 1-2 you threw at the beginning of the fight.

You know you won the fight and that you performed well, that's the only thing you should remember about this fight.

sammiza567
08-21-2009, 09:15 PM
greaat fight. great win. you took him to school. how old are you and what weight?

JoHnNyBoXeR
08-22-2009, 01:17 AM
you shoulda got the decision but u did do way too much holding.. you coulda got DQed

DMC
08-22-2009, 01:59 AM
This is meant as constructive criticism and I Hate to be the bad one, but I thought you lost.
You def had more skill than him and the knock down was good.
But his defense was tight and he blocked allot of your shots early.
as for the last rounds the shots you connected with were just grazing shots.
The judges will not score them unless they are clean and solid shots, grazing shots or taps won't get a score. You looked a little sloppy at times as well.
I know you had already boxed that day but so do allot of other guy's. Welcome to the world of AM boxing tournaments.

Don't be disappointed, you still boxed well, just look on it as a learning curve and improve on where you went wrong, even the best keep working at getting better.
I think you need to work more on your movement and tighten everything up a bit. Really just work on looking sharper.

Hope this helps

Well done again, keep your head held high.

DMC:boxing:

Trenchant
08-22-2009, 04:33 AM
I thought you won. He was coming in too close and you had to put your arms out, even though you have headgear it's natural to want to keep the opponents head away from you. It looked like you knocked him down twice, the last one from a right to the side of the head and the first from a left hook. I didnt think it was excessive holding.

Trrmo
08-22-2009, 09:47 AM
You lost because of the points deducted, otherwise you would have won fairly comfortably on points.
You were lucky to have not been disqualified for holding, you were given at least three warnings, at higher level you would have been DQd. You need to at least give the impression you are trying to throw punches, dont "rest" your hands on the opponents hip/waist because it will be seen as holding, keep you head up and practice infighting.
That KO was great.
You could have got some easy points if you DOUBLE YOUR JAB.
Watch the swinging punches, remember you need to land with the knuckle area or they wont count.
Another thing, DONT put your hands up after a knockdown like that, the fight is not over. The main reason is that judges dont like it, the ref doesnt like it, and hell I dont even like it! and if the judges dont like it they are likely to score against you in a close fight. If you win then by all means do backflips from the top rope, but AFTER the decision, not before. This is amateur boxing, not pro.
Look at the Roy Jones olympic final and how he conducted himself and you might see why the decision went against him (between each round he returned to his corner with his hands up in the air). The amateur judges want you to be an example of a clean, fair, respectful athlete, they dont like showy stuff.

RightCross94
08-22-2009, 08:00 PM
You lost because of the points deducted, otherwise you would have won fairly comfortably on points.
You were lucky to have not been disqualified for holding, you were given at least three warnings, at higher level you would have been DQd. You need to at least give the impression you are trying to throw punches, dont "rest" your hands on the opponents hip/waist because it will be seen as holding, keep you head up and practice infighting.
That KO was great.
You could have got some easy points if you DOUBLE YOUR JAB.
Watch the swinging punches, remember you need to land with the knuckle area or they wont count.
Another thing, DONT put your hands up after a knockdown like that, the fight is not over. The main reason is that judges dont like it, the ref doesnt like it, and hell I dont even like it! and if the judges dont like it they are likely to score against you in a close fight. If you win then by all means do backflips from the top rope, but AFTER the decision, not before. This is amateur boxing, not pro.
Look at the Roy Jones olympic final and how he conducted himself and you might see why the decision went against him (between each round he returned to his corner with his hands up in the air). The amateur judges want you to be an example of a clean, fair, respectful athlete, they dont like showy stuff.

and thats why amateur boxing is inferior to pro boxing. People want to be entertained. Amateur officials are just out of touch and boring. With all the rules and point scoring system we have to fight under these days, am boxing is turning into fencing. Boxing is a showy, flashy sport where people can run their mouths and play to the crowd, not only do the officials want to get rid of that, but they have basically eradicated infighting and bodywork from am boxing. I know im ranting a bit off topic here, but the officials are frustrating and annoying with all their rules and ettiquette.

Trrmo
08-22-2009, 08:21 PM
and thats why amateur boxing is inferior to pro boxing. People want to be entertained. Amateur officials are just out of touch and boring. With all the rules and point scoring system we have to fight under these days, am boxing is turning into fencing. Boxing is a showy, flashy sport where people can run their mouths and play to the crowd, not only do the officials want to get rid of that, but they have basically eradicated infighting and bodywork from am boxing. I know im ranting a bit off topic here, but the officials are frustrating and annoying with all their rules and ettiquette.

Yes and no, you can do the flashy stuff when you turn pro, I dont like the scoring comp system either but the best show an amateur boxer can put on is great boxing skills.
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Trrmo
08-22-2009, 08:25 PM
heres another one I just found, Kostya at 18 years
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!! Shawn
08-22-2009, 11:42 PM
actually I dont know...someone told me 2 points

You aren't deducted 2 points. 2 points are added to your opponents score.

!! Shawn
08-22-2009, 11:45 PM
U can be the judge of who won this fight. I didnt know it was legal in AM boxing to fight twice in one day, but this was my second fight the first day of the tourney the first was at 11 am and this fight was at 6 pm. The ref took 4 points for holding, two of them were warnings. he told me afterwards that warnings are point deduction( never heard of that ****). Enjoy lol and pleez comment

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Sorry, cant watch it with that flashing trial thing. Convert it with ffmpeg or mpegstreamclip and reupload it

Tu Pai
08-23-2009, 08:31 AM
Yes and no, you can do the flashy stuff when you turn pro, I dont like the scoring comp system either but the best show an amateur boxer can put on is great boxing skills.
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thx for those Zoo vids, dude had very good boxing ability and reflexes.

King James III
08-23-2009, 09:22 PM
Yea i admit it was alot of holding....just not only on my part he didnt even get a warning. They said it was 13-10 so even without the point deductions he would have won

supRa
08-24-2009, 06:01 PM
you aren't deducted 2 points. 2 points are added to your opponents score.

holy **** u serious?!@?!?!?

MKultra
08-24-2009, 07:52 PM
WOW, dont even sweat it you obviously won the kid barely landed any clean shots it looked like and he was dropped twice but still won w.e that sounds right...

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08-24-2009, 10:53 PM
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