I really haven't heard people talk too much about this fight.
As far as I know It's April 16th. What does everyone think the outcome of the fight will be? The last time they fought, Wlad beat Byrd on Unamious Descion. I think this should be a good fight, and it would be nice to be able to see.

It's not finalize, yet. Byrd is refusing to fight W.Klitschko outside the US. IMO, I think the outcome would be the same.

The outcome will be the same as the first time they fought in my opinion. Wlad maybe a different fighter now than he was back then but Byrd has also changed. Byrd has lost some of his speed in his reflexes and he is a little more offensive minded than he used to be. But his lack of power has proven this new offensive strategy to be ineffective.

Wlad has been exsposed as a fighter with a glass chin and one suffers from stamina problems(and confidence problems as well.However he still has an explosive offense when he does pull the trigger and he can really hurt people.

Wlad's size will dominate Byrd once again and he won't be able to get away and once again get dominated.

Wlad by wide UD.

Please note that I'm pulling for Byrd for an amazing upset and hope that he can do it.

Like people have been saying nothing has been finalized. And for the record Wlad's tendency to hit the panic button is a much bigger problem than his chin or stamina which in my opinion are not top notch but they aren't as horrible as everyone makes them out to be. Byrd really has nothing to make him hit that panic button, so I would expect more or less the same outcome as the first fight.

The outcome will be the same as the first time they fought in my opinion. Wlad maybe a different fighter now than he was back then but Byrd has also changed. Byrd has lost some of his speed in his reflexes and he is a little more offensive minded than he used to be. But his lack of power has proven this new offensive strategy to be ineffective.

Wlad has been exsposed as a fighter with a glass chin and one suffers from stamina problems(and confidence problems as well.However he still has an explosive offense when he does pull the trigger and he can really hurt people.

Wlad's size will dominate Byrd once again and he won't be able to get away and once again get dominated.

Wlad by wide UD.

Please note that I'm pulling for Byrd for an amazing upset and hope that he can do it.
I am in the process of setting up an interview with Byrd about the upcoming fight, I will definitely post it in this thread to let everyone know how he feels about it

Towards the end of the Oquendo fight, and carried through the Golota fight, Byrd has been fighting more like a man.

I'll give credit where its due. Byrd has always had trouble with big fighters and he did the first time around against Wlad. Byrd's newfound confidence accompanied with Wlad's lack of chin makes for an interesting fight. I foresee it as being one of the best potential HW matchups you will find.

I think Byrd would win by UD this time.
I have noticed that Wlad keeps getting slower, and slower as a fighter. Byrd seems to be getting stronger, and more agressive.

Towards the end of the Oquendo fight, and carried through the Golota fight, Byrd has been fighting more like a man.

I'll give credit where its due. Byrd has always had trouble with big fighters and he did the first time around against Wlad. Byrd's newfound confidence accompanied with Wlad's lack of chin makes for an interesting fight. I foresee it as being one of the best potential HW matchups you will find.

I think Byrd would win by UD this time.
I have noticed that Wlad keeps getting slower, and slower as a fighter. Byrd seems to be getting stronger, and more agressive.

riiiiiiiiiight byrd stronger ya. would be no diff no matter how bad wlad's chin is byrd will not KO him

Towards the end of the Oquendo fight, and carried through the Golota fight, Byrd has been fighting more like a man.

I'll give credit where its due. Byrd has always had trouble with big fighters and he did the first time around against Wlad. Byrd's newfound confidence accompanied with Wlad's lack of chin makes for an interesting fight. I foresee it as being one of the best potential HW matchups you will find.

I think Byrd would win by UD this time.
I have noticed that Wlad keeps getting slower, and slower as a fighter. Byrd seems to be getting stronger, and more agressive.


That is interesting that you think that Bryd "fighting like a man" is a good thing. Most people (and judges) would agree that his last few fighs have been his very worst.

riiiiiiiiiight byrd stronger ya. would be no diff no matter how bad wlad's chin is byrd will not KO him

who said anything about a knockout?

who said anything about a knockout?


people will you'll see

Towards the end of the Oquendo fight, and carried through the Golota fight, Byrd has been fighting more like a man.

I'll give credit where its due. Byrd has always had trouble with big fighters and he did the first time around against Wlad. Byrd's newfound confidence accompanied with Wlad's lack of chin makes for an interesting fight. I foresee it as being one of the best potential HW matchups you will find.

I think Byrd would win by UD this time.
I have noticed that Wlad keeps getting slower, and slower as a fighter. Byrd seems to be getting stronger, and more agressive.

That is an interesting take on this potential matchup. Do you really see Byrd winning by UD? I would love to see that happen but how exactly do you see this fight playing out?

That is an interesting take on this potential matchup. Do you really see Byrd winning by UD? I would love to see that happen but how exactly do you see this fight playing out?

Byrd throws the usual pitter patter punches. Rounds 1-4. (he might even lose these rounds). Wlad starts off by looking impressive. He lands one or two power shots. Byrd stays on the bike. By round 5 Byrd starts to go downstairs and upstairs in short bursts. (just enough to win rounds 5 and 6). Klitschko starts SERIOUSLY running out of gas. Byrd attacks in spurts to the body, and then rides the bike untill the 12th round.

Byrd is the champ.

Going to be hard to "decisevly" beat him again.

Wlad has to look impressive in order to take the title away.

This I frimly belive.

Byrd throws the usual pitter patter punches. Rounds 1-4. (he might even lose these rounds). Wlad starts off by looking impressive. He lands one or two power shots. Byrd stays on the bike. By round 5 Byrd starts to go downstairs and upstairs in short bursts. (just enough to win rounds 5 and 6). Klitschko starts SERIOUSLY running out of gas. Byrd attacks in spurts to the body, and then rides the bike untill the 12th round.

Byrd is the champ.

Going to be hard to "decisevly" beat him again.

This I frimly belive.

This is concievable and if Byrd were to win I would see the fight played out in the same fashion as well. It is a long shot but hopefully he can do it.

This is concievable and if Byrd were to win I would see the fight played out in the same fashion as well. It is a long shot but hopefully he can do it.

I would personally love to see him beat Wlad.

IMO.

I would also love to see him fight Vitali again.

I would personally love to see him beat Wlad.

IMO.

I would also love to see him fight Vitali again.

You and me both my brother. I truly can't see Byrd beating Vitali, it would be something special if he could beat Wlad and it would be an act of God if he beat both brothers!

There is always hope!

Byrd throws the usual pitter patter punches. Rounds 1-4. (he might even lose these rounds). Wlad starts off by looking impressive. He lands one or two power shots. Byrd stays on the bike. By round 5 Byrd starts to go downstairs and upstairs in short bursts. (just enough to win rounds 5 and 6). Klitschko starts SERIOUSLY running out of gas. Byrd attacks in spurts to the body, and then rides the bike untill the 12th round.

Byrd is the champ.

Going to be hard to "decisevly" beat him again.

Wlad has to look impressive in order to take the title away.

This I frimly belive.

http://www.techwebsound.com/The%20Lovin'%20Spoonful%20-%20Do%20You%20Believe%20In%20Magic.jpg

I suppose it was reaching.

None the less. :boxing:

If held in the U.S, I think it would be a good and competitive fight.....if held in Germany, well we all know what happens in Germany...

Chris Byrd is a tailor made opponent for Wladimir. Byrd's style, size, and strength allows Wlad to utilize his best attributes while Byrd poses little threat to Wladimir's weaknesses.

Wladimir has a very good chance to win this fight. The question then is, how much of his confidence will he regain if he does win? Would that mean a return of the old Wlad?

Chris Byrd is a tailor made opponent for Wladimir. Byrd's style, size, and strength allows Wlad to utilize his best attributes while Byrd poses little threat to Wladimir's weaknesses.

Wladimir has a very good chance to win this fight. The question then is, how much of his confidence will he regain if he does win? Would that mean a return of the old Wlad?

I believe sparse flashes of the old Wlad may surface.
However; he was rocked by TOS, who is not a real HW.
Byrd is getting physically stronger every fight. You can see that in his physique.

I think Byrd Gets inside and counters him a few times hard enough to make Wlad think, once he does its over and Byrd wins. Byrd might not be Mike Tyson or similar but he is not as light fisted as some make it seem i believe.

I think Byrd Gets inside and counters him a few times hard enough to make Wlad think, once he does its over and Byrd wins. Byrd might not be Mike Tyson or similar but he is not as light fisted as some make it seem i believe.
I for one need to see Byrd defend his title by KO to believe he belongs as a HW champion. Although it is great, I'm sick of seeing his "run away" tactical defence with no offense. Always narrowly winning by the score cards. IMO a true champion needs to win at least sometimes by KO. Maybe he'll KO Wlad, but I doubt it.

that vitali quote in the Sig. Is really cool.

That guy is just cool. :)

I think Byrd Gets inside and counters him a few times hard enough to make Wlad think, once he does its over and Byrd wins. Byrd might not be Mike Tyson or similar but he is not as light fisted as some make it seem i believe.

Nor is Wlad's chin as bad as you and other's seem to believe.

Wlad chin is bad but Byrds punching power is worse. If this rematch was to come off i believe it`ll be a closer fight second time round but Wlad pulling out the pts win!

I believe sparse flashes of the old Wlad may surface.
However; he was rocked by TOS, who is not a real HW.
Byrd is getting physically stronger every fight. You can see that in his physique.


...He was nowhere near rocked by TOS. He was the victim of a flash knockdown and was never hurt in that fight. get a grip.

Wlad KO 11 and i hate the Klitschko's

I really haven't heard people talk too much about this fight.
As far as I know It's April 16th. What does everyone think the outcome of the fight will be? The last time they fought, Wlad beat Byrd on Unamious Descion. I think this should be a good fight, and it would be nice to be able to see.
This fight ain't happening. Mark my words.

that vitali quote in the Sig. Is really cool.

That guy is just cool. :)
See how people can put words together if they are educated.

I think this fight will eventually happen. When Don King, HBO and IBF are putting pressure on you. you will eventually give in.

This fight ain't happening. Mark my words.

Yeah for some reason I don't Byrd will fight Wlad either. It makes him look like a pretty big coward. And instead of starting a new thread, here's the latest Malinowski article on the fight:

Has Byrd Been Cornered?
27.02.05 - By Scoop Malinowski

The pressure is on IBF Heavyweight champion Chris Byrd now. The highest powers of the sport - HBO, Don King and the IBF would like Byrd to defend his title against 6th-rated Wladimir Klitschko in Germany in April. Byrd's contracted minumum of $2.5 million per fight with his promoter King has reportedly been raised to $3 million (also added to entice Byrd is an automatic rematch clause should he lose his title).

Yet still Byrd is resisting this lucrative plan. Instead, Byrd says he prefers to fight Monte Barrett next. But there are a few problems with that idea. Byrd vs. Barrett is a non-draw. HBO does not want to televise it. Don King does not want to promote it. And presumably, the IBF would rather see a sanctioning fee from a fight with Klitschko in it than Barrett.

And Barrett himself has other, more prosperous opportunities than a Chris Byrd fight. Barrett is currently the WBC mandatory challenger for Vitali Klitschko.

So it looks very much like Byrd's Monte Barrett-escape hatch option is an implausible one.

What options does this leave Byrd with? Well, if Byrd truly is dead-set on avoiding this potential career-best purse with Wladimir, he does have a few alternative routes he can consider. Perhaps he might choose to retire as champion, like Lennox Lewis. Or maybe he can pray that Showtime, ESPN or Best Damn Sports Show will unexpectedly jump in and offer Byrd $2.5 or $3 million to fight Barrett or Valuev or Kirk Johnson or who knows even Riddick Bowe. You can not rule anything out in the crazy world of boxing. Who knows, maybe Byrd will offer title shots to George Foreman or Larry Holmes. Or maybe Byrd will vacate the IBF Heavyweight title and move down to challenge for the newly-vacant Cruiserweight belt. Who knows? If Byrd actually will snub $3 million AND a guaranteed rematch clause to fight Wladimir Klitschko, he is probably capable of anything, logical or illogical.

But it seems most likely that Byrd will eventually accept and obey his obligation as a champion and face this challenge, with the courage, pride and guile that everyone in boxing knows he has.

In the meantime of this curious drama, the action has taken a pause. There is now a distinct calm, as if before the looming storm. Byrd is cornered, with his back against the ropes and his career and reputation on the line. What will he choose to do? What will he say?

No doubt it is going to be very interesting to discover when and what the next decision will be from this cagey, crafty and spiritual IBF Heavyweight champion.

I have and will continue to be very critical of Wlads chin and stamina. I will also note his obvious style advantage against Byrd. Byrd will not be able to do anything to the chin of Wlad, becuase he has no punch and also will not be able to find Wlad's chin. Wlad is one of the best technical boxers in the division. He will again do a number against Byrd. His long jab and big right hand is tailor made to ko byrd. I look for a ko win for Wlad. Wlads problems will be against the larger heavys with power.

The article says that Bryd is in a corner with his back against the ropes. Well bryd is pretty good againts the ropes if you ask me. I think Bryd will get out of this fight. I could see him re-matching Golata or McCline, or probably fighting the winner of Toney/Ruiz. Also he could fight Vitali, baby Joe Mesi, or Vlauev.

I think the winner of Toney vs Ruiz will probably be what happens if Bryd gets out of fighting Wvlad.

If wlad paces himself and jabbs i cant see byrd winning this fight.

Okay so wlad is more gunshy than at their last clash but i wont matter against byrd waterpistol.

Byrd is slower than last time and that can result in being hit clean, so i see wlad by ud ore tko this time.

If wlad had the stamina the last time he will have it this time too.

And someone wrote earlier one the thread that it shouldnt be in germany.
Why the ****???

I'm thinking this is a pretty good fight for Wlad. since he holds a win over Byrd already and has a huge size advantage. However, Byrd may win if he can force a fast pace and lay the pressure on Wlad. I still have to pick Wlad. though to win, despite his recent fights. I hope this fight happens, it should be a good one.

I seriously doubt that Byrd will be able to put much pressure on Wlad, just because of the reach difference, and Wlad's considerably harder jab, a punch he always comes foreward behind. I like Byrd, and I appreciate his skill and talent, as much as I hate watching him, but I can't see him being aggressive against Wlad, something he would almost certainly have to do in order to get in punching range against a taller fighter with a longer reach. I'm not saying it's impossible, but he would have to fight his ass off, maybe even pull a rabbit out of his ass to win this one.

well.

we all know what happened the last time wlad fought a good southpaw.

sanders landed the straight left hand at will, it was nasty. im sure wlad has brushed up on his southpaw experience but still. i can still remember hearing lampley after the first one landed.

"Left hook lands for Klitschko!"
"Left hand by Sanders, snaps (pauses) Klitschko's head back!"



also wlad has a very bad habit of backing straight up...damn that is a baaaad habit if you are glass chinned like him

if Byrd fights Wladdy again, with his new "stand and trade" style, it'd be wise for him to spend all the first rounds going to the body, and i mean really aggressively to the body then go upstairs to shatter Wlad's chin.

The talk on the street is that if Byrd continues to duck Wlad, that Wlad will fight Michael Moorer.

The talk on the street is that if Byrd continues to duck Wlad, that Wlad will fight Michael Moorer.
Wlad has nothing to gain by fighting Moorer. What I see happening is if Golota beats Brewster, then Don King will push for a Wladimir vs Golota fight for the WBO belt. That fight would probably generate money on pay per view. Wlad will probably need a tune-up match before that occurs though and I just don't see it being against a guy like Moorer who even though has a glass jaw is a southpaw and can punch fairly well.

i heard that too

i dont see how this time will eb any diff from last time

i dont see how this time will eb any diff from last time
I can. Chris Byrds fighting style has changed a great deal since their last fight. Byrd now throws alot more punches in the early rounds, and has turned into a more agressive fighter. Plus, we know Wlad has a glass chin, one solid punch from Byrd could do the trick in this fight.

okay i admitt that wlads chin aint strong but noway byrd knocks him out his punches are like featherdusters like merchant put it.

Nor is Wlad's chin as bad as you and other's seem to believe.


You are exactly right on the money there, Neuraxis. The whole idea of Wlads chin being suspect is preposterous. Especially when you look at each individual knockout on its own.

Sanders' k.o. was legit. No one can argue that. And we can safely assume that ANY heavyweight hit with that same punch would also have gone down.

But Brewster didnt win ****. Wlad was drugged, plain and simple.

The TOS shot was also legit, and Wlad was caught off balance, but he never actually went down from it. He went to a sort of squatting crouch. His ass never hit the canvas.

I dont think Wlad is at all as washed up as some people like to think. Wlad is still a tremendous force in HW division. As is Nicolay Valuev (when will they give this guy a legitamite shot?) and Samuel Peter. Keep your eyes on these guys. And look for Wlad to hold at least one belt (and defend it numerous times) by end of year.

just wanted to mention one thing that pisses me off about byrd:

he states that wlad doesnt deserve a title shot, but tell me this, did fres, golota and mccline deserve one???????

who did fres beat after getting KTFO by tua to get a title shot??
who did golota beat to earn a title shot???
who did mccline beat after losing to wlad to get a title shot?? boswell, a guy who beat NOBODY....

byrd wants to defend against barrett, a guy wlad destroyed and also lost to mesi... so what has barret done to deserve a title shot??? he beat guinn and beck, who have beaten NOBODY

byrd is such a joke, even his own promoter is anxious for him to lose

Wlad has nothing to gain by fighting Moorer. What I see happening is if Golota beats Brewster, then Don King will push for a Wladimir vs Golota fight for the WBO belt. That fight would probably generate money on pay per view. Wlad will probably need a tune-up match before that occurs though and I just don't see it being against a guy like Moorer who even though has a glass jaw is a southpaw and can punch fairly well.

Yeah but when is Golota vs. Brewster? May? Wlad needs to fight by the end of April, and Golota won't be ready in time. I for one am also hesitant about Wlad fighting any southpaw besides Byrd. But who else is there to fight its seems like the only options are Euros like Valuev and Sam among others.

Yeah but when is Golota vs. Brewster? May? Wlad needs to fight by the end of April, and Golota won't be ready in time. I for one am also hesitant about Wlad fighting any southpaw besides Byrd. But who else is there to fight its seems like the only options are Euros like Valuev and Sam among others.
Wlad should fight Lance Whitaker. Whitaker has been talking smack lately and he needs to be shut up. Anyone who loses to Mccline as bad as Whitaker did should stop their yapping.