View Full Version : Do You Still Think DM Could Have Beaten Roy Jones?


Mr. Violence
02-27-2005, 04:56 PM
For years people have been saying DM could beat Roy Jones Jr. Now that Darius Michalszewski has been KO'd do you still think he could have beaten Roy?

AintGottaClue
02-27-2005, 04:59 PM
i never heard of the guy

DLT
02-27-2005, 05:00 PM
For years people have been saying DM could beat Roy Jones Jr. Now that Darius Michalszewski has been KO'd do you still think he could have beaten Roy?
No, I like him but I always thought that his style was made for RJ.

jack_the_rippuh
02-27-2005, 05:02 PM
I don't know, since I never seen Michalczewski fight and I don't know his style, but if he had a rock solid chin and could swarm relentlessly, he could beat Roy....but that's a big big IF..

Mr. Violence
02-27-2005, 05:05 PM
i never heard of the guy



Come on now, DM is your homeboy. :boxing:

Sir_Jose
02-27-2005, 05:08 PM
Dont put any stock into DM's fights with Gonzales or Tiozzo he was already well past it when both fights happened.

That being said I dont think he could have beat Jones, but he would have had a better chance than any of the guy's Jones did fight thats for sure.

jack_the_rippuh
02-27-2005, 05:14 PM
Dont put any stock into DM's fights with Gonzales or Tiozzo he was already well past it when both fights happened.

That being said I dont think he could have beat Jones, but he would have had a better chance than any of the guy's Jones did fight thats for sure.

You think he would have done better than Tarver I?

Sir_Jose
02-27-2005, 05:29 PM
You think he would have done better than Tarver I?


Roy Jones himself was already on the downside by the time he fought Tarver so I dont use that fight to judge Jones.

Roy and DM should have fought in 98 or 99 when they were both at there best.

Super_Lightweight
02-27-2005, 05:43 PM
You can't really judge DM on any of his fights in the last one and a half years or even more. He go sme favorable hometown influence in his fight vs Harmon or Hall or both before he fought Gonzalez (in my memory serves correctly).

You can't judge Roy by his fights after Ruiz...not the same man at all. Roy vs DM in 2001 or earlier is a worthwhile fight, but not now.

Neuraxis
02-27-2005, 05:47 PM
You think he would have done better than Tarver I?

Obviously prime a prime DM would have destroyed the Jones of Tarver I and II and Johnson fights just like a prime Jones would destroy the current version of DM. They really should have fought back in 97-99.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/k.norgate/gifs/GriffinKo.gif

AintGottaClue
02-27-2005, 07:13 PM
Come on now, DM is your homeboy. :boxing:


DM was born in florida? if so he would be roy's boy also lol


o i get it thats not funny he is from poland anyway they got golota over there they dont need DM or whoever the **** htis guy is

elveiel
02-27-2005, 07:23 PM
For years people have been saying DM could beat Roy Jones Jr. Now that Darius Michalszewski has been KO'd do you still think he could have beaten Roy?

Now that Roy's been KO'd do you think he could beat him :rolleyes: :D

There's no way Michalszewski could beat Jones, the only chance he would have is if they fought in Germany, he runs away for 12 rounds and get a home town verdict.

Roy Jones jr would hand Darius Michalszewski a beat down.

Neuraxis
02-27-2005, 09:13 PM
Now that Roy's been KO'd do you think he could beat him :rolleyes: :D

There's no way Michalszewski could beat Jones, the only chance he would have is if they fought in Germany, he runs away for 12 rounds and get a home town verdict.

Roy Jones jr would hand Darius Michalszewski a beat down.

Or DM would have KO/TKO'd him.

The Phantom Menace
02-27-2005, 09:20 PM
Prime for prime DM might have been able to beat Roy, the world will never know because he was never given the opportunity.

The Fix
02-27-2005, 09:22 PM
they should have fought on neutral territroy. imo roy had all the advantages but we will never know.

wmute
02-27-2005, 09:51 PM
no way in hell, independently of their recent ko losses: DM didn't have nothing jones could not handle, except german referee

Neuraxis
02-27-2005, 10:54 PM
no way in hell, independently of their recent ko losses: DM didn't have nothing jones could not handle, except german referee

And a pressure style along with an 80% KO %.

RwK
02-27-2005, 11:01 PM
Rjj K.o. Dm 2.

Neuraxis
02-27-2005, 11:06 PM
Rjj K.o. Dm 2.

That is just retarded. :nono: The only way Jones would beat DM would be by decision.

RwK
02-28-2005, 12:16 AM
That is just retarded. :nono: The only way Jones would beat DM would be by decision.

Griffin is not necessarily "China Chinned".

RJJ made him look like it. plain and simple.

however. DM did as well. I never said he could not punch.

miron_lang
02-28-2005, 12:26 AM
Prime for prime DM might have been able to beat Roy, the world will never know because he was never given the opportunity.

Correct, Just like Arguello or Salvador Sanchez rolling over MAB, JMM, PAC or Morales. or any other fantasy fights WE WILL NEVER KNOW :D

wmute
02-28-2005, 12:45 AM
And a pressure style along with an 80% KO %.

no only the german referee:

he cannot be neutralized by speed

Neuraxis
02-28-2005, 01:11 AM
Griffin is not necessarily "China Chinned".

RJJ made him look like it. plain and simple.

however. DM did as well. I never said he could not punch.

Perhaps but Griffin vs. Jones I a really close fight before teh DQ.

Neuraxis
02-28-2005, 01:13 AM
no only the german referee:

he cannot be neutralized by speed

Who said anything about speed, I said power.

Shaolin Bushido
02-28-2005, 01:13 AM
The only time DM could ever beat Roy is ... now. No way Roy could stave off the KO; it causes my eyes to water watching him slide around the ring on the ropes and punching infrequently.

He better keep his ass out of the ring competitively. He's had his time. Time to chill and enjoy Life.

Shaolin Bushido
02-28-2005, 01:15 AM
Correct, Just like Arguello or Salvador Sanchez rolling over MAB, JMM, PAC or Morales. or any other fantasy fights WE WILL NEVER KNOW :DHe had the opportunity IF he had come to America to fight or agreed to fight in a third party country. He had to stay in Germany and Roy flatly nixed that as he should. You think we have shady decisions here(we do) but Germany is just silly how they protect whoever the reigning guy is.

RwK
02-28-2005, 01:18 AM
Perhaps but Griffin vs. Jones I a really close fight before teh DQ.

I do agree.

If DM fought like he did against Hill, then maybe he could survive

a couple of rounds.

Im not saying RJJ's chin is any better, and Tiozzo is not half ass

puncher, BUT DM's chin is suspect. Especially against a slick

fighter whom he cant see attacking.

Neuraxis
02-28-2005, 01:30 AM
I do agree.

If DM fought like he did against Hill, then maybe he could survive

a couple of rounds.

Im not saying RJJ's chin is any better, and Tiozzo is not half ass

puncher, BUT DM's chin is suspect. Especially against a slick

fighter whom he cant see attacking.

How is his chin suspect? He's been TKO'd once. Have you seen what his face looks like after his fights?

Anjew
02-28-2005, 07:04 AM
He had the opportunity IF he had come to America to fight or agreed to fight in a third party country. He had to stay in Germany and Roy flatly nixed that as he should. You think we have shady decisions here(we do) but Germany is just silly how they protect whoever the reigning guy is.

Yeah, sure. That's why Gonzales won the title... :rolleyes:

Darek wanted to fight Jones ANYWHERE. He said that many times. He just wasn't offered the money in USA. They wanted to pay him like a challenger, so he said **** off. That's it.

I think in their prime RJJ would beat him by decision, and it would be a close fight.

The Phantom Menace
02-28-2005, 11:40 AM
Roy Jones himself was already on the downside by the time he fought Tarver so I dont use that fight to judge Jones.

Roy and DM should have fought in 98 or 99 when they were both at there best.




Indeed. Unfortunately for whatever reason the public was robbed of this fight. I still would like to see them fight even though they are both past their prime.

Goosey
02-28-2005, 11:42 AM
I think Jones would have won , but I cant see him doing it in two.

wmute
02-28-2005, 01:19 PM
Who said anything about speed, I said power.

exactly and I said "those characteristcs would be neutralized by jones' speed, while speed cannot do anything about the referee, and I add now, the judges"

Neuraxis
02-28-2005, 01:31 PM
exactly and I said "those characteristcs would be neutralized by jones' speed, while speed cannot do anything about the referee, and I add now, the judges"

Maybe so, but DM had more power than anyone Jones fought at light heavyweight. So it would be interesting.

jabsRstiff
02-28-2005, 01:44 PM
Roy, at his best at 175....would have no problem with Darius M.

I like how some of you are saying that Darius' pressuring style would have possibly helped him...
Roy Jones ate up pressure fighters....especially ones as orthodox as Darius was.

Jones by near-shutout decision.