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02-27-2005, 03:12 PM
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View Full Version : You guys are funny!! !! Anorak 02-27-2005, 03:12 PM Anyone...? DLT 02-27-2005, 03:57 PM Anyone...? I dont understand your question ChicoEscuelaNYC 02-27-2005, 04:29 PM All the Cotto bashing because he got rocked, and won the fight. It's like you some of you can't wait to detract from a fighter, and run to the board after every fight bringing up every negative aspect of the winners performance. Get it togethor fellas, Corley has NEVER been embarassed in a fight, neither Judah, nor Mayweather, nor Cotto went in their and ran him over without him putting up a good battle. He's a southpaw with good pop and he made a good show. Show respect. The weird idea that because Cotto got jelly legged off a right hook he's now "exposed" is something only a board full of haters could come up with. Mayweather -- a far superior defensive fighter than Cotto -- got rocked TWICE by Corley, and prevailed....**** happens. Nothing's changed, Cotto won the fight by TKO in what was probably a premature stoppage, but premature stoppages happen all the time in boxing. Corley was clearly outclassed by a stronger better fighter, and he took that knee because the pain from the body shots was too much for him. In fact, earlier in the match the ref thought Cotto landed a low blow because of Corley's reaction to a clean shot to the ribs. Grow up guys. Cotto won. m00ks 02-27-2005, 04:35 PM All the Cotto bashing because he got rocked, and won the fight. It's like you some of you can't wait to detract from a fighter, and run to the board after every fight bringing up every negative aspect of the winners performance. Get it togethor fellas, Corley has NEVER been embarassed in a fight, neither Judah, nor Mayweather, nor Cotto went in their and ran him over without him putting up a good battle. He's a southpaw with good pop and he made a good show. Show respect. The weird idea that because Cotto got jelly legged off a right hook he's now "exposed" is something only a board full of haters could come up with. Mayweather -- a far superior defensive fighter than Cotto -- got rocked TWICE by Corley, and prevailed....**** happens. Nothing's changed, Cotto won the fight by TKO in what was probably a premature stoppage, but premature stoppages happen all the time in boxing. Corley was clearly outclassed by a stronger better fighter, and he took that knee because the pain from the body shots was too much for him. In fact, earlier in the match the ref thought Cotto landed a low blow because of Corley's reaction to a clean shot to the ribs. Grow up guys. Cotto won. Corley wasn't "outclassed" he was OUTPOWERED. Cotto was in no way dominating before he got caught. He was actually getting hit clean and frequently. ChicoEscuelaNYC 02-27-2005, 04:38 PM No he was outclassed, and outpowered. Cotto went in their to prove he could do what Mayweather and Judah couldn't and he paid for it -- that's all. When Cotto boxed, he performed well. DLT 02-27-2005, 04:43 PM All the Cotto bashing because he got rocked, and won the fight. It's like you some of you can't wait to detract from a fighter, and run to the board after every fight bringing up every negative aspect of the winners performance. Get it togethor fellas, Corley has NEVER been embarassed in a fight, neither Judah, nor Mayweather, nor Cotto went in their and ran him over without him putting up a good battle. He's a southpaw with good pop and he made a good show. Show respect. The weird idea that because Cotto got jelly legged off a right hook he's now "exposed" is something only a board full of haters could come up with. Mayweather -- a far superior defensive fighter than Cotto -- got rocked TWICE by Corley, and prevailed....**** happens. Nothing's changed, Cotto won the fight by TKO in what was probably a premature stoppage, but premature stoppages happen all the time in boxing. Corley was clearly outclassed by a stronger better fighter, and he took that knee because the pain from the body shots was too much for him. In fact, earlier in the match the ref thought Cotto landed a low blow because of Corley's reaction to a clean shot to the ribs. Grow up guys. Cotto won. Chop wasnt outclassed, he was just too small and your forgetting the big difference between Zab and Floyd vs Cotto. The difference is that Zab and Floyd were already proven guys who have beaten good fighters and Floyd was in his first fight in his 4th weight class. This was Cotto's first big fight and it was in a weight class that he probally shouldnt even be in and agaisnt a guy who he out weighed by 20 pounds. Warrior Spirit 02-27-2005, 04:43 PM I thought Cotto was a little reckless, and he did recover nicely after being rocked. Even if the referree didn't stop that fight it was only a matter of time. Cottos 17 lbs. weight advantage was too much for Chop Chop and he was wearing Corley out with body shots. But Cotto would get his ass handed to him by Mayweather, Tyzsu, or even Gatti if he got caught by a Gatti power shot. Zab Super Judah 02-27-2005, 04:45 PM cotto dominated the fight other than that one round.....if the rematch happens cotto will not be reckless.....but he would destroy corley jack_the_rippuh 02-27-2005, 04:46 PM I thought Cotto was a little reckless, and he did recover nicely after being rocked. Even if the referree didn't stop that fight it was only a matter of time. Cottos 17 lbs. weight advantage was too much for Chop Chop and he was wearing Corley out with body shots. But Cotto would get his ass handed to him by Mayweather, Tyzsu, or even Gatti if he got caught by a Gatti power shot. Him and Gatti would probably be light-heavyweights at fight night since they're known for that ****....outweighing their opponents.. Sir_Jose 02-27-2005, 04:47 PM Cotto didn't outclass him or outbox him he just used his size. That was a Middleweight fighting a Lightweight. I dont care how any Cotto fan tried to spin it. Having almost 20lbs on a Corley and getting rocked badly by a guy who couldn't crack an egg is not good news for his future. There have been rumors that Cotto couldn't take a punch since he was an amature, those were enforced when TopRank only put him in with lightweights and now they seem to be confirmed. Dont forget he was also rocked by Victoriano Sosa and Lovemore N'Dou, just not as bad. Warrior Spirit 02-27-2005, 04:52 PM Corley showed alot of guts in that fight last night and he really impressed me. We haven't heard the last of this guy, I'm shocked that he was able to hurt Cotto despite being outweiged by 17lbs. Even if Cotto didn't see the shot. Corley got ****ed over royally last night with that stoppage but it was only a matter of time. He should have at least been given the dignity of finishing the fight. MWCOFSU 02-27-2005, 04:52 PM :confused: :gay: :*******: jack_the_rippuh 02-27-2005, 04:53 PM cotto dominated the fight other than that one round.....if the rematch happens cotto will not be reckless.....but he would destroy corley Yeah, but the point is, unlike Corley, there are some guys in the division who won't give him that opportunity after hurting...and no matter what you say, every good fighter performs better in a rematch after seeing what they have to do to win, but the great fighters perform well the first time around.. marvelous_TG 02-27-2005, 04:54 PM yes i saw it and i have it if you want i can upload it for you Anorak, unless you have already saw it. DLT 02-27-2005, 04:56 PM cotto dominated the fight other than that one round.....if the rematch happens cotto will not be reckless.....but he would destroy corley I disagree. I thought he loss the second and third round and got a BS knockdown in round 1. I had it scored like this going into the 5th Cotto 10 Chop 8 Cotto 8 Chop 10 Cotto 8 Chop 10 Cotto 10 Chop 9 Cotto 36 Chop 37 but really I had it Cotto 36 Chop 38 because it really wasnt a knock down in the first. Now I dont think Chop was finished like everyone else does. I think if the ref wouldnt had stopped it he wouldve made it to the end of the round. Couple that with two 10 counts that means he wouldve went without getting hit for like 2 or 2 and a half minutes. He wouldve recovered and it only wouldve took one punch to get him back in it and he was landing very easy. Lederman and probally you gave the second to Cotto but there is no way he won that. That was win Chop started landing those big over hand rights and left uppercuts. He dominated the last minute and a half of the round. Cotto didnt even land that much after the first minute m00ks 02-27-2005, 04:57 PM No he was outclassed, and outpowered. Cotto went in their to prove he could do what Mayweather and Judah couldn't and he paid for it -- that's all. When Cotto boxed, he performed well. when a fighter is outclasses, it's a one sided beating. corley was doing more than holding his ground, he hurt teh bigger fighter. Steward said it best, "Corely can hit him with 5 shots but one punch from Cotto will hurt him." When you're weighing 17 pounds more than you're opponent and just over powering him, yeah you can give the impression that you're outclassing him :cool: Just watch the fight again amd come back to me with this outclassed bull****. DLT 02-27-2005, 04:59 PM yes i saw it and i have it if you want i can upload it for you Anorak, unless you have already saw it. He already saw it but I think I saw him make another thread about why isnt anyone talking about the fight and how he cant see one thread on it. I see alot of threads on it. Maybe he means directly about it because alot of the threads are just about Cotto or Cotto vs someone else or the ref and so on Zab Super Judah 02-27-2005, 05:00 PM I DONT CARE about the weight issue ...that does noit matter........anyone can hurt another man if they get hit in the perfect precise spot........anyone....hopkins could be hurt if he was hit in the right spot by corley m00ks 02-27-2005, 05:01 PM I disagree. I thought he loss the second and third round and got a BS knockdown in round 1. I had it scored like this going into the 5th Cotto 10 Chop 8 Cotto 8 Chop 10 Cotto 8 Chop 10 Cotto 10 Chop 9 Cotto 36 Chop 37 but really I had it Cotto 36 Chop 38 because it really wasnt a knock down in the first. Now I dont think Chop was finished like everyone else does. I think if the ref wouldnt had stopped it he wouldve made it to the end of the round. Couple that with two 10 counts that means he wouldve went without getting hit for like 2 or 2 and a half minutes. He wouldve recovered and it only wouldve took one punch to get him back in it and he was landing very easy. Lederman and probally you gave the second to Cotto but there is no way he won that. That was win Chop started landing those big over hand rights and left uppercuts. He dominated the last minute and a half of the round. Cotto didnt even land that much after the first minute Honestly I was keeping score and it looked like a very very close fight. I just stop scoring it after I got confused with the ref taking away points. I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS TAKING AWAY POINTS FROM!! :confused: :eek: DLT 02-27-2005, 05:04 PM I DONT CARE about the weight issue ...that does noit matter........anyone can hurt another man if they get hit in the perfect precise spot........anyone....hopkins could be hurt if he was hit in the right spot by corley The reason why people are being so hard on him is because he was being compared to the greats without beating anyone. All the great fighters have or could be hurt but those guys are all proven and Cotto isnt. This was his first big fight and it was against a guy who all of you said was a bum and that Cotto would kill and he was 20 pounds bigger. That just kind of makes people think that he was all hype. If Chop was 157 would it be different? If Cotto fought the other top guys at 140 would it be different? If Cotto moved to 147 like he soon has to will he be just a average fighter? DLT 02-27-2005, 05:05 PM Honestly I was keeping score and it looked like a very very close fight. I just stop scoring it after I got confused with the ref taking away points. I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS TAKING AWAY POINTS FROM!! :confused: :eek: Yeah and I scored the second 10-8 because the ref took a point from Cotto Sir_Jose 02-27-2005, 05:06 PM I DONT CARE about the weight issue ...that does noit matter........anyone can hurt another man if they get hit in the perfect precise spot........anyone....hopkins could be hurt if he was hit in the right spot by corley Of course it matter why do you think we have weight classes? Some of that true some of that not true. I highly doubt your going to see Hopkins get hurt from anyone. What your overlooking is the fact that Miguell Cotto has been rocked in fights with Sosa and N'Dou before. m00ks 02-27-2005, 05:08 PM The reason why people are being so hard on him is because he was being compared to the greats without beating anyone. All the great fighters have or could be hurt but those guys are all proven and Cotto isnt. This was his first big fight and it was against a guy who all of you said was a bum and that Cotto would kill and he was 20 pounds bigger. That just kind of makes people think that he was all hype. If Chop was 157 would it be different? If Cotto fought the other top guys at 140 would it be different? If Cotto moved to 147 like he soon has to will he be just a average fighter? If Cotto moved to 147, he will look like a very average fighter. Which is a dilemma for him because he can BARELY make 140. HE won't be competitive at this stage of his career if he goes up. !! Anorak 02-27-2005, 05:10 PM :confused: :gay: :*******:Presumably you know me to call me names, right? :boxing: !! Anorak 02-27-2005, 05:11 PM yes i saw it and i have it if you want i can upload it for you Anorak, unless you have already saw it.If you wouldn't mind, MTG, I'd appreciate it. It was just a gag, incidentally... there's about fifty threads on here about it. mic573 02-27-2005, 05:18 PM Of course it matter why do you think we have weight classes? Some of that true some of that not true. I highly doubt your going to see Hopkins get hurt from anyone. What your overlooking is the fact that Miguell Cotto has been rocked in fights with Sosa and N'Dou before. Cotto was never rocked in the Sosa or N'Dou fights. He was hit with a good shot but not to the point that he was in danger they just made him step back and regroup. Last night he was rocked but he recovered well. marvelous_TG 02-27-2005, 05:20 PM If you wouldn't mind, MTG, I'd appreciate it. It was just a gag, incidentally... there's about fifty threads on here about it. no prob i'll upload it for ya and pm it to you. !! Anorak 02-27-2005, 05:26 PM no prob i'll upload it for ya and pm it to you. You're the man. So, to save me reading through 200 threads, what's the word on the street? I didn't even know it was taking place to be honest... it wasn't in boxing news. It was a non-title bout, right? Sir_Jose 02-27-2005, 05:30 PM Cotto was never rocked in the Sosa or N'Dou fights. He was hit with a good shot but not to the point that he was in danger they just made him step back and regroup. Last night he was rocked but he recovered well. Yews he was rocked, not as badly but make no mistake he was rocked. When you have to step back and collect yourself your rocked. marvelous_TG 02-27-2005, 05:33 PM You're the man. So, to save me reading through 200 threads, what's the word on the street? I didn't even know it was taking place to be honest... it wasn't in boxing news. It was a non-title bout, right? It was a title fight cotto's WBO title if i'm correct, it was a good fight, with cotto getting stunned batly in the 3 almost getting KO'd he had to hold on not to go down and after the ref splitted them up cotto stumbled on unsteady legs to the ropes, anyway he survived round 3, round 5 cotto legs looked good he knock corley down, corley got up cotto rushes to him as corley is on the ropes and cotto hits him with a right hook that didn't land solidly, and corley decided, wasen't forced by the punch IMO to go down and take a count to get his legs back under him, and the ref just stopped the fight i was like WTF? but it was a nice fight while it lasted, i hope cotto learned from this fight and works on his defense. Super_Lightweight 02-27-2005, 05:52 PM Nothing's changed, Cotto won the fight by TKO in what was probably a premature stoppage, but premature stoppages happen all the time in boxing. Corley was clearly outclassed by a stronger better fighter, and he took that knee because the pain from the body shots was too much for him. In fact, earlier in the match the ref thought Cotto landed a low blow because of Corley's reaction to a clean shot to the ribs. Yes, early stoppages happen all the time but you shouldn't be surprised when people react strongly to them, or try to make a post like this to calm them down from that aspect. Every fight is unique and many felt that Corley could have gone on to win that fight. As far as that low blow goes, yes, there was a low blow right before that shot you mentioned on the ribs. That's robably what he was reacting to, but yes, in conjunction with the body shot. Corley was outclassed I guess you could say, but only because he was outweighed. Had Corley gone into the fight a natural 157 lbs I think we all know who to favor in that scenario. !! Anorak 02-27-2005, 06:36 PM I really wanna see Witter in with this guy... imagine Junior Witter's profile if he was the one to KO Cotto. People would have to really think to remember the Zab fight then. !! Anorak 02-27-2005, 06:37 PM I see... the threads have been merged. Wondered why it had my name as creating "You guys are funny". Like two parrallel universes merging... what the Hell am I talking about? elveiel 02-27-2005, 06:40 PM No he was outclassed, and outpowered. Cotto went in their to prove he could do what Mayweather and Judah couldn't and he paid for it -- that's all. When Cotto boxed, he performed well. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=10547&dateline=1106287553 Your Avatar is scary, it looks like he's pulling one off :eek: ChicoEscuelaNYC 02-27-2005, 06:43 PM Yes, early stoppages happen all the time but you shouldn't be surprised when people react strongly to them, or try to make a post like this to calm them down from that aspect. Every fight is unique and many felt that Corley could have gone on to win that fight. As far as that low blow goes, yes, there was a low blow right before that shot you mentioned on the ribs. That's robably what he was reacting to, but yes, in conjunction with the body shot. Corley was outclassed I guess you could say, but only because he was outweighed. Had Corley gone into the fight a natural 157 lbs I think we all know who to favor in that scenario. Cotto came in above the limit, big deal. Hopkins has come into fights 170+ in the past, and no one dares question him. |