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Slipx
02-26-2005, 11:10 PM
hometown stoppage bull****,what the **** was that?

although cotto was winning anyway, still that was weak..

enadeus
02-26-2005, 11:11 PM
I just looked over the replay and I think Corley was still hurt from the body shot when he took the knee the second time. VEry Early SToppage.

Kimmy
02-26-2005, 11:12 PM
What you expect, HBO were probably panicing that their new meal ticket was about to blow the lid big time....of course you stop the fight at the first chance...Cotto means money

Boxingfan81
02-26-2005, 11:13 PM
Corley would have been knocked out next round anyway, it was all over.

MlLkMan
02-26-2005, 11:15 PM
That was bull****, Corley ****ing stopped when he got Cotto groggy, fixed fight in my opinion.

Slipx
02-26-2005, 11:15 PM
Corley would have been knocked out next round anyway, it was all over.

corley has never been stopped,stfu plz

RwK
02-26-2005, 11:16 PM
Corley is a MAN.

he showed alot in the ring tonight.

I am thoroughly UNIMPRESSED by Cotto.

Even though I was high on him earlier.

he looked like crap, against a slick fighter.

Boxingfan81
02-26-2005, 11:20 PM
Corley is a MAN.

he showed alot in the ring tonight.

I am thoroughly UNIMPRESSED by Cotto.

Even though I was high on him earlier.

he looked like crap, against a slick fighter.
So much of a man that he took a knee from a punch on the shoulder.

RwK
02-26-2005, 11:22 PM
So much of a man that he took a knee from a punch on the shoulder.

obviously, we saw a different fight.

Boxingfan81
02-26-2005, 11:24 PM
Cotto was beginning to take over the fight, I do agree the fight should not have been stopped but I think we all know what would have happened. Cotto was hurt, what great champion hasn't been hurt?

Slipx
02-26-2005, 11:27 PM
i personally thought cotto was going to gas out

ottoevans
02-26-2005, 11:30 PM
me too. Why didnt they stopped the fight when Cotto was dancing doing the thriller dance from Micheal Jackson??? But they were real fast on stopping the fight when Corley went to a knee

RwK
02-26-2005, 11:31 PM
went to a knee

Yes. To a knee.

Universal Language Sign for "I give up".

abdiel2k3
02-26-2005, 11:32 PM
me too. Why didnt they stopped the fight when Cotto was dancing doing the thriller dance from Micheal Jackson??? But they were real fast on stopping the fight when Corley went to a knee
thats how i see it
way to premature
i dont think cotto should ever get in the ring with someone like KT or gatti
these guys would seriuolsy hurt him
judah and floyd would be too quick pluhs they can hit
Cotto very much loss alot of glow from his invincible aura
he may not have got KOd
but i see no better path then Wladimirs for him

enadeus
02-26-2005, 11:33 PM
I agree, I think Corley was waiting for Cotto to run out of gas. I think he took that last knee because he was trying to duck Cotto's punches and he ducked 3 of them and he was already so low that he just had to take the knee. If he shot straight up he would have been fully explosed for a power punch.

Boxingfan81
02-26-2005, 11:35 PM
He already said he took a knee to avoid further punishment, not because he was low to the ground.

damonbleed
02-26-2005, 11:44 PM
I think Harris could behead Cotto if he has any speed behind his right hand.I've seen him fight a few times but I can't tell too much from what I've seen.Corley didn't expose a weak chin.He exposed the fact that Cotto leaves himself open when he goes to the body.Cotto took a hard hook in the ear.That would screw anybody up.The ending sucked donkey balls. Taking a knee is not giving up it is allowing yourself time to recover.Corley took a knee against Mayweather too and they didn't stop that fight.

Slipx
02-26-2005, 11:45 PM
Yes. To a knee.

Universal Language Sign for "I give up".

what about when jones got dq'd for hitting someone that went to a knee...

going to a knee is a veteran tactic, in no means does that mean I give up

Slipx
02-26-2005, 11:46 PM
thats how i see it
way to premature
i dont think cotto should ever get in the ring with someone like KT or gatti
these guys would seriuolsy hurt him
judah and floyd would be too quick pluhs they can hit
Cotto very much loss alot of glow from his invincible aura
he may not have got KOd
but i see no better path then Wladimirs for him

well said abdiel

RwK
02-26-2005, 11:47 PM
what about when jones got dq'd for hitting someone that went to a knee...

going to a knee is a veteran tactic, in no means does that mean I give up

when you have already been on the canvas 3 times, I think it does.

Corley's body language was extremely negative, showing that he gave

up. Of course though, it could have been a strategy tactic...

however; taking a knee every round...is flat out ridiculous.

ottoevans
02-26-2005, 11:50 PM
no it doesnt, what are u taling about.

I just had a idea, Mayorga whos suppose to come down to welterweight should fight Cotto. Because Cotto wont hurt him and with that win Mayorga would be back on the map

Ptownz_fynestz
02-26-2005, 11:52 PM
cotto looke sloppy in this fight 17 pounds ova whats that

+= El Jefe=+
02-26-2005, 11:55 PM
hometown stoppage bull****,what the **** was that?

although cotto was winning anyway, still that was weak..



yeah there was two puerto rican guys here at my house watchign the fight, even they where like, "What the **** is going on ???"
when the figth got stopped

Stickman
02-26-2005, 11:57 PM
The ref was wrong to stop the fight at that time, but Corley was hurt, he said so himself in the interview, and took the knee to recover. Smart fighter, unbelievably ****ing stupid ref.

RwK
02-26-2005, 11:59 PM
One thing is for sure.

Those who wagered on Cotto,

felt something warm running down their knee for a couple of minutes.

including Yours Truly.

IwatchBoxing
02-27-2005, 12:01 AM
From the get go I felt something was wrong, tho a great fight while it lasted, it was dirty, awkward, and shocking, at some points my jaw was almost hitting the ground
( :D ). Bad stoppage, I would of loved to see the fight go on so Cotto could finish Corley off, but whatever, I truely belive that those 17 pounds took a great fight from us, seems to me that all the hype not only got to Mighty Mike, but Cotto too.
Still both did good, and I still think Cotto should fight Mayweather, or Kostya (and beat them). I wouldnt mind a rematch either.
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trinidadpr87
02-27-2005, 12:01 AM
One thing is for sure.

Those who wagered on Cotto,

felt something warm running down their knee for a couple of minutes.

including Yours Truly.
Hell yes,i almost had a heart attack.

RwK
02-27-2005, 12:03 AM
Hell yes,i almost had a heart attack.

I was watching the fight with my dad.

he was rooting for Chopshop. he started yelling, "cotto is hurt".

while I went to the fridge. damn, I actually missed the punch that

hurt Cotto.

Super_Lightweight
02-27-2005, 12:05 AM
For those of you who say that you knew what was going to happen anyway, as if that somehow excuses the stoppage, you might as well have kept that in your mouth.

When you are a professional fighter, come back to me. Corley had hurt Cotto very badly and maybe he could have done it again. You don't know, and no one does. Corley DESERVED a chance to see what he could come up with after taking a knee to recuperate.

Many fighters have taken a knee to recuperate and have gone on to win. It's not a majority but it does happen. Given Cotto's trouble to make weight, he may have gotten tired and in a serious position to lose again later in the fight.

This WAS a bad stoppage, end of story.

IwatchBoxing
02-27-2005, 12:07 AM
For those of you who say that you knew what was going to happen anyway, as if that somehow excuses the stoppage, you might as well have kept that in your mouth.

When you are a professional fighter, come back to me. Corley had hurt Cotto very badly and maybe he could have done it again. You don't know, and no one does. Corley DESERVED a chance to see what he could come up with after taking a knee to recuperate.

Many fighters have taken a knee to recuperate and have gone on to win. It's not a majority but it does happen. Given Cotto's trouble to make weight, he may have gotten tired and in a serious position to lose again later in the fight.

This WAS a bad stoppage, end of story.Theres been worse stoppages than this, with LESS outrage, Cotto wasn't so impressing today, Corley took a knee, it was a good fight.

fatcity
02-27-2005, 12:19 AM
:boxing: Cotto was only a round away from tearing Corleys ribs out anyway...give the kid props ...he did what he was advertised to do,he knocked him out and gave everyone in PR a mild heart attack at the same time...thats entertainment

The Phantom Menace
02-27-2005, 12:20 AM
Another fight which is a disgrace to the sport.

AintGottaClue
02-27-2005, 12:36 AM
my god that was such a disgrace, that kind of **** hurts boxing.

ottoevans
02-27-2005, 12:38 AM
not really cuase it was in PR so he wont be a ref in the US where the big fights take place. i just feel bad to for corley who was robbed at a chance

Slipx
02-27-2005, 12:39 AM
emmanuel knew corely was going to win

DLT
02-27-2005, 12:41 AM
Do you guys know that the WBO rules state that you cannot have a ref from the same point of orgin as the fighter. They were not supposed to have this hometown ref do this fight. I also thought Cotto got away with alot of cheap shots. He hit Chop low, after the bell alot, and when he was down. Chop hit him low once and only hit him after the bell because Cotto was still throwing bombs and hit him first. The one when he was down really hurt Chop. That was a bogus stoppage. Alot of guys take a knee. He never even hit Chop. He just wanted to make sure that Cotto won. I dont think it was a given like alot of you do. Chop was still catching him clean alot. All it takes is one punch. Chop always fights in shifts. He can be hurt then recover, thats why he took the knee

RwK
02-27-2005, 12:42 AM
emmanuel knew corely was going to win

emanuel steward also knew the difference between a puerto rican.

and a mexican.

"holy ****....did you see that tanzinian take a knee on the canvas?".

oh wait a minute....i forgot.

Chop is not african.

Boxingfan81
02-27-2005, 12:43 AM
The low blow in the 2nd was NOT a low blow it was a hard ass shot to the liver that made chop bend down, the right hand just before the left to the liver was right on the waistline, bad call by teh ref.

The Phantom Menace
02-27-2005, 12:53 AM
That ref was definitely biased. What a disgrace to the sport.

m00ks
02-27-2005, 12:56 AM
WTF the ref looked lost from the moment he called the two fighters

fatcity
02-27-2005, 12:57 AM
:cool: I figure the ref saved Corley from a God awful bashing and Corley had shot his bolt...he was only one round away from being brutally ko'd

MlLkMan
02-27-2005, 12:58 AM
I know, the ref was a retard, too old , doesnt know what to do.

Dr.Depravity
02-27-2005, 01:12 AM
Total B.S. on the stoppage. Boxing looked totally corrupt...again.

Slipx
02-27-2005, 01:14 AM
:cool: I figure the ref saved Corley from a God awful bashing and Corley had shot his bolt...he was only one round away from being brutally ko'd

sure, if zab judah couldnt stop him, what makes you think a gassed out cotto could?

learn to stfu.

Slipx
02-27-2005, 01:15 AM
ref probably had a few grand on the fight

RwK
02-27-2005, 01:16 AM
sure, if zab judah couldnt stop him, what makes you think a gassed out cotto could?

learn to stfu.

Cotto did stop Corley.

fuktard.

vB Martin
02-27-2005, 02:26 AM
This guy was trying to give Richard Steele a run for his money. 1 point taken away from each fighter for low blows when niehther had even been warned, then the early stoppage.

There's no doubt in my mind that Cotto was going to win. He was starting to sap the strength out of Chop Chop. The stopage was bad, though.

I think that Chop Chop can show enough cause to get the fight declared a NC by the WBO. Well, mebbe. Isn't the WBO based in San Juan?