View Full Version : I'll give Cotto his due


enadeus
02-26-2005, 11:08 PM
By An Unbelievably Early Stoppage. Tko.

DJ OxXx
02-26-2005, 11:13 PM
I was extremely impressed how cotto came back after being severely hurt...im mean he was basically out on his feet. Cotto was eventually going to win the fight but the stoppage was rediculous. It was only stopped because cotto was in his home. I'm saying this and im puerto rican. The fight should have not been stopped like that.

RwK
02-26-2005, 11:15 PM
I am impressed by Corley.

If he had 10 more pounds on him, he would have knocked Cotto out.

DLT
02-26-2005, 11:21 PM
I didnt think he can do it but he did. I guess we both were kind of right. You see that it was a tough fight and he couldve lost if Chop didnt BS around but a win is a win.

Im not going to be to hard on Cotto because I tried to tell all of you guys for the longest that a southpaw will hurt you more then a really hard punching right hander can. Chop will hurt good fighters more then Zoo can because everthing is backwards and its hard to see the punch coming.

I'll kind of give Cotto his due if you know what I mean but this is for all of you who was saying that if Chop can hurt Floyd then imagine what Cotto could do. So if a 140 pound Chop can hurt Cotto, imagine what Harris or Zoo would do. Nah, im just kidding but you get my point. There is nothing more dangerous then a hard punching southpaw. Thats why Pac is so good. If he was a right hander then Pac wouldnt be nothing. He just has one punch.

ottoevans
02-26-2005, 11:26 PM
Cotto has no chin Corley is not a KO fighter, and he had Cotto doing hookie-pookie. They stopped the fight cause the fight was in Puerto Rico

trinidadpr87
02-26-2005, 11:33 PM
Cotto has no chin Corley is not a KO fighter, and he had Cotto doing hookie-pookie. They stopped the fight cause the fight was in Puerto Rico
The punch didn't hit him on the chin,it was on the top of his head.Corely stunned Mayweather too,i guess he doesn't have a chin neither.Anyway i liked the way Cotto regained his balance after being stunned,however i think he got hit way too much.Bad stoppage by the ref.

MlLkMan
02-26-2005, 11:38 PM
I didnt think he can do it but he did. I guess we both were kind of right. You see that it was a tough fight and he couldve lost if Chop didnt BS around but a win is a win.

Im not going to be to hard on Cotto because I tried to tell all of you guys for the longest that a southpaw will hurt you more then a really hard punching right hander can. Chop will hurt good fighters more then Zoo can because everthing is backwards and its hard to see the punch coming.

I'll kind of give Cotto his due if you know what I mean but this is for all of you who was saying that if Chop can hurt Floyd then imagine what Cotto could do. So if a 140 pound Chop can hurt Cotto, imagine what Harris or Zoo would do. Nah, im just kidding but you get my point. There is nothing more dangerous then a hard punching southpaw. Thats why Pac is so good. If he was a right hander then Pac wouldnt be nothing. He just has one punch.

Left handers dont punch harder than right handers, it depends on who it is.

What do you mean by if Pac was a right hander he wouldnt be nothing? his right hand would be his bombing left.
:boxing:

DLT
02-26-2005, 11:43 PM
Im hearing alot of bashing on Cotto now and I think it is a littile unfair. Like I said above, Chop will hurt Cotto more then Zoo, Harris, and Gatti would. Chop is a crouching lefty with decent power. Everything hurts more. You either dont see the punch coming or you see it and still cant do anything about it. I said the same thing when you guys were trying to question Floyd's chin. It's not there chin, its Corley's left hand crouching style that hurt them.

However, there is a difference because I said those other guys wouldnt be able to hit Floyd flush and wouldnt hurt him if they did because he can see it coming and he can take it anyway. Cotto on the other hand has a questionable defense. He got hit alot against N'Dou and sometimes against Pinto and Baily so he might be a littile different then Floyd but I still dont think his chin at "140" will be a major problem. If he moves up then maybe

IwatchBoxing
02-26-2005, 11:46 PM
From the get go I felt something was wrong, tho a great fight while it lasted, it was dirty, awkward, and shocking, at some points my jaw was almost hitting the ground
( :D ).
Bad stoppage, I would of loved to see the fight go on so Cotto could finish Corley off, but whatever, I truely belive that those 17 pounds took a great fight from us, seems to me that all the hype not only got to Mighty Mike, but Cotto too.
Still both did good, and I still think Cotto should fight Mayweather, or Kostya (and beat them). I wouldnt mind a rematch either.

riz
02-26-2005, 11:46 PM
i think cotto was gona win a bit later anyway. he was reckless which is why he wobbled.. but wen he was hurt he fought smart... he held and landed little punches and walked off wen he had to
in the 4th and 5th he boxed the way we saw him against sosa and bazan and perez and martinez.

DLT
02-26-2005, 11:48 PM
Left handers dont punch harder than right handers, it depends on who it is.

What do you mean by if Pac was a right hander he wouldnt be nothing? his right hand would be his bombing left.
:boxing:
They dont punch harder but everything hurts more if it is a lefty and it's much harder to stop. You can have a perfect defense and still get hit flush on the chin, thats why it shakes people up. MAB had a perfect defense on the knock down and he still got hit on the chin. RJ stepped back on Tarver like he has done his whole career but Tarver caught him flush on the chin. The heavyweight guy ruined Klitchko. I forgot his name but he was a lefty. Wladamire couldnt see the punches and got hurt, then he could see them and still couldnt get out of the way of them. Spinks is a average fighter but he will be very hard to beat because he is a lefty. Everything is backwards and most guys arent used to that

Truth
02-26-2005, 11:48 PM
It was an early stoppage but Corley was going to lose most likley anyway. At the point of the stoppage Cotto was starting to really beat Corley up so it was only a matter of time.

trinidadpr87
02-26-2005, 11:48 PM
I think Cotto should give Corely a rematch and than fight Harris.

Cow head
02-26-2005, 11:50 PM
Im hearing alot of bashing on Cotto now and I think it is a littile unfair. Like I said above, Chop will hurt Cotto more then Zoo, Harris, and Gatti would. Chop is a crouching lefty with decent power. Everything hurts more. You either dont see the punch coming or you see it and still cant do anything about it. I said the same thing when you guys were trying to question Floyd's chin. It's not there chin, its Corley's left hand crouching style that hurt them.


Those are bandwagon riders. They always come out when they think a fighter is exposed.

ottoevans
02-26-2005, 11:51 PM
well corely doesnt hit harder than none of the top welterweight in the division.

Truth
02-27-2005, 12:00 AM
Cotto did OK, but its clear he has some defensive adjustments to make for his future fights. He is young and making mistakes is how you learn so if Cotto fights Corley again he will probably fight with a more controlled style.

The Phantom Menace
02-27-2005, 12:03 AM
Cotto won but it was not a good win, he showed some weaknesses. He isn't as good as everyone thought.

riz
02-27-2005, 12:22 AM
how did u think he did
A
B
C
D

A - good job, overall very good
B - good, had a couple of mistakes but he recovered
C - he sucked
D - plz retire

Cow head
02-27-2005, 12:23 AM
Good. Needs to move up though.

kadyo
02-27-2005, 12:25 AM
He sucks! Corley looked like he took a dive. That damn referee must be hanged up side down :mad:

Cow head
02-27-2005, 12:30 AM
He sucks! Corley looked like he took a dive. That damn referee must be hanged up side down :mad:

Is that you in your avatar?

fatcity
02-27-2005, 12:35 AM
:luvbed: lets cut the kid some slack and show a little luv...he did what he was supposed to do and that was to ko his ass...its not his fault he won the title at a very young age and is learning on the job...who else has ko'd Corley

riz
02-27-2005, 12:39 AM
yo fatcity i can't give karma cuz i gave out too much today, ill giv u later tho
good post
every match u learn something. theres no one who has learned everyhting. we thougth that jones had everything and BAM! gets knocked out twice.
hopkins looks like he knows everything but mayb b4 he retires sum1 does something to him
both were impressive tonight and dissapointing
corleys not able to finish
corleys will and heart
cotto's recklessness (never seen that b4)
his ability to recover and fight smart again

FistoftheDallasStar
02-27-2005, 12:47 AM
Cotto acomplished what he wanted which was to get a win against a tougher fighter. He did not look as impressive as previous fights which happens when you step up in class of fighters. I think Cotto still needs some work before stepping up to Kostya, Mayweather, Gatti or Judah though. I think Cotto fighting a Vivian Harris right now would be a mistake. I don't think his managers will put him in a situation to lose and will steer him away from the above mentioned fighters for the rest of the year.

The Phantom Menace
02-27-2005, 12:49 AM
Cotto is the latest fraud brought to you by the governing bodies looking to make some big dollars. He got exposed tonight.

kadyo
02-27-2005, 12:52 AM
Is that you in your avatar?

Yup. That's me with a killer smile cum double dirty fingers. :D

BBFM
02-27-2005, 12:57 AM
so was this fight pretty good or what?

AIR_KENG
02-27-2005, 12:59 AM
so was this fight pretty good or what?
yeah right... there are better fights...

fatcity
02-27-2005, 01:10 AM
:boxing: hey riz righton!as far as COTTO being exposed as a fraud according to some that is far from the truth..this kid is the goods..give him some time and experience and look out

ottoevans
02-27-2005, 01:11 AM
yup he can be ready when everyone else gets old or retires

`STEELHEAD
02-27-2005, 01:30 AM
its hard to tell from this fight if cotto's ready for the tier one guys. it appeared to me cotto weighed in heavy and had plans of getting it over quick. which he did with the help from that **** for brains ref. would have been interesting to see them go at it for the 10 to 12 rounds. i feel that if demarcus had better personell in his corner the fight would have been close. cotto with all that weight would have slowed down in the later rounds. and corley is in exellent shape. chop chop needs to aquire the killer instinct. it could have helped him in this fight.

RwK
02-27-2005, 01:33 AM
Ref gets no respect.

If Cotto beat Corley into a bloody pulp, and corley ended up with

brain damage, people would accuse him of doing a bad job.

Corley takes a knee, after 3 previous knockdowns and the ref

called it.

sounds like "doing his job" to me.

:confused:

RwK
02-27-2005, 01:54 AM
Cotto did OK, but its clear he has some defensive adjustments to make for his future fights. He is young and making mistakes is how you learn so if Cotto fights Corley again he will probably fight with a more controlled style.

according to many on this forum:

Cotto has taken too much punishment, and its time to retire.


:cool:

trinidadpr87
02-27-2005, 02:47 AM
Cotto did OK, but its clear he has some defensive adjustments to make for his future fights. He is young and making mistakes is how you learn so if Cotto fights Corley again he will probably fight with a more controlled style.
I agree 100%.

BBFM
02-27-2005, 02:49 AM
Cotto shouldent retire this is all part of the process if anything its a learning experience. It's just goign to make him better.

Mech.
02-27-2005, 02:55 AM
DLT i'll give you your due ,for saying Corley would give cotto problems, I didnt think it could happen,but,Cotto fought a STUPID ASS FIGHT, not until that last round did he fight how he should have fought.And it was a retarded stopage, I think he would have won it still,and won it better if it had gone on,but thats just MO, i hope a rematch happens,Id like to see cotto do better, i think this is the hurdle he should cross before facing any top fighters.I didnt think cotto would get caught up in all the hype, thought he was smarter than that,but damn, he got rocked, I think it's a learning experience, so in a way Im glad it happened, he'll fight smarter from now on.

DLT
02-27-2005, 04:10 AM
DLT i'll give you your due ,for saying Corley would give cotto problems, I didnt think it could happen,but,Cotto fought a STUPID ASS FIGHT, not until that last round did he fight how he should have fought.And it was a retarded stopage, I think he would have won it still,and won it better if it had gone on,but thats just MO, i hope a rematch happens,Id like to see cotto do better, i think this is the hurdle he should cross before facing any top fighters.I didnt think cotto would get caught up in all the hype, thought he was smarter than that,but damn, he got rocked, I think it's a learning experience, so in a way Im glad it happened, he'll fight smarter from now on.
Cotto won by KO but if I was him I wouldnt go anywhere near a rematch. Chop will always give him problems and it will be even closer if its in the US like in Vegas or something where cotto doesnt have the whole crowd on his side