as soon as he gets to someone like gatti, his career is all over. the day he fights someone that can take a decent shot and also give one cotto will go down. i can't believe cotto did the chicken dance after a few shots from chop chop. mayweather took his shots better than that.

He did the disco thing like Tito, hahaha, but i think he just got careless.

I agree, that punch to his chin by Corley exposed the weakness of his chin.

exactly, now that other fighters know he has a weak chin, more fighters are going to go in swinging, instead of cautiously like they've been. cotto has lost his edge. hell chop chop took his legs out without a powershot, you can say its cause hes a southpaw, but the shot that got cotto was a right, which is chops weak arm.

Has no chin??? So does that mean that mayweather has no chin because Floyd got rocked with a good shot from Corley himself. He's human and any one can get rocked with a good punch at any time that's what makes boxing the sport it is, So don't come on here saying he has no chin. You absolutely must not know the sport enough to know that it only takes 1 punch to turn around a fight. Anyone can take a shot but, it takes a great fighter to survive a good shot.

He dind't survive it, he got really lucky that corley is a scrub and didn't go for the finish while he had him. Instead he continued to jab to the body and then work on the head.

i wouldnt say he has no chin...but gatti damn sure wouldnt do the job on cotto..

i agree with that i truely think it takes a true fighter to survive a daze like that

i'll like to point out that he got hit with a punch to the left side of his head, not the chin, wasnt that the same shot that RJjr got from G.J? it was more of a punch over his left ear than the chin

oh my god, if it weren't for chop not knowing how to finish someone, cottos career was over. cotto took a weak shot that almost required no follow up, poor follow up by chop is why cotto won the fight. did i mention the shot by chops weak arm !!!

exactly, now that other fighters know he has a weak chin, more fighters are going to go in swinging, instead of cautiously like they've been. cotto has lost his edge. hell chop chop took his legs out without a powershot, you can say its cause hes a southpaw, but the shot that got cotto was a right, which is chops weak arm.


I guarantee you that if another fighter thinks that cotto has no chin and decides to try and come at him , They are making a huge mistake in doing that. I just think he got a little careless just like someone else said before in front of his home crowd. "Careless not a weak chin"

I agree. Corley just kept jabbing to the body and then switched to the head. If he landed a few more power shots to the head, Cotto would be out. Cotto is also a very stiff fighter, unimpressive style.

cotto was jus reckless, he started off to quick cuz he wanted to look impressive which was a mistake, if u c in the 4th n 5th, he started boxing with his mind. the same way he usually does... and he won.

castillo wobbled mayweather
kosta KO'd zab
spinks KD zab

it happens.. n hes still in the learning process

almost the same thing that happened to roy jones, chin was exposed, other fighters became not scared of him. all over.

I agree. Corley just kept jabbing to the body and then switched to the head. If he landed a few more power shots to the head, Cotto would be out. Cotto is also a very stiff fighter, unimpressive style.

I agree. It seemed that Corley was hesitant to finish the job though....insinuating that he had too much respect for Miguel's power.

He has a good chin, the punch that rocked him was on his head. Corley was landing punches on Cotto's jaw earlier in the fight. Sometimes the punch you don't see does major damage.

With that said, Cotto should stay away from Harris.

Its possible that it was on the head. The angle wasn't that great to see it clearly.

chop wobbling mayweather was a little different that cotto being out of his mind for a good 45 secs falling backwards onto the ropes after being separated, after only one shot, because chop didn't land anything else.

Cotto was hit on the temple, i still say Cotto has a good chin. punches to the temple knock boxers out, but he showed heart by doing a dance and hugging the **** out of Corley.

Sometimes I read this forum and I say to myself , my god some of these people dont know boxing or this forum has some idiots. How does a guy have no chin but has never been down? how does a guy have no chin but finishes the guy off? how does a guy have no chin but clearly is dominant?
see my conclusion here is some of you guys are like old ladies, looking to knock off anyone comming up. You never give props and when you do, its to your favorite fighter or someone with your likings.
There are so many fighter that I hate and wish they get knocked the **** out, but you see I give all fighters the props they deserve. They are human they feel pain, they breath and most important tehy put there life on the line every time they step into the ring.

Cotto-vs Tszyu, Gatti, Mayweather=Bye Bye Cotto. This is based on how well these guys take and give out shots+finish up.

I think he has a chin but I agree with you that getting rocked by Corley isn't a good sign.

dont get me wrong here guys, i was all for cotto winning the fight, i was rooting for him, i was a fan until this fight. but after this showing i was just dissapointed. i'm just saying, if cotto takes another step up in opponents hes gonna get knocked out. i'm not hatin on cotto or anything.

almost the same thing that happened to roy jones, chin was exposed, other fighters became not scared of him. all over.

There you again, Learn my child that no one is made out steel and anyone can get caught with a good one. Weak arm of Corley?? so does that mean that zab has a weak chin because he got KD by Spinks who is not considered a power puncher??? Does that mean that zab's career is over??? or was it over when he got KO'D by Kosta?? You know nothing. Stop hating on the guy.

Then again Mayweather was rocked by Corley while he was being careless like Cotto did. I think Cotto has a decent chin, he just has to be more careful in there. I think Cotto was way to wild and thats why he got caught he should have broke Croley down then went for the knockout.

cotto was jus reckless, he started off to quick cuz he wanted to look impressive which was a mistake, if u c in the 4th n 5th, he started boxing with his mind. the same way he usually does... and he won.

castillo wobbled mayweather
kosta KO'd zab
spinks KD zab

it happens.. n hes still in the learning process
Castillo never hurt Floyd. Chop did but not Jose

you can't compare zabs flash knock down to the chicken dance of cotto tonight, say what you want, but no comparison.

chop wobbling mayweather was a little different that cotto being out of his mind for a good 45 secs falling backwards onto the ropes after being separated, after only one shot, because chop didn't land anything else.

Hey Will let he hit you one on the side of the head and see if you don't wobble!!! We'll make it PPV except for everyone on the Boxing Scene Forums are allowed free admission...lol

Corley hit Floyd with clean shots, but Floyd was never hurt like cotto was (hookie-pookie dance) , also Floyd took the corley fight cause he knew Corley isnt a strong puncher, and it was his 1st j.welterweight fight.

hey come on, like i said i'm not trying to hate on the guy, i'm not tryin to start a fight. i really wanted cotto to win tonight. your right a shot to the top of the head can do that, and change around the whole fight. but i'm just saying when the shot like that comes from someone like gatti, zu, or harris, lights out.

Sometimes I read this forum and I say to myself , my god some of these people dont know boxing or this forum has some idiots. How does a guy have no chin but has never been down? how does a guy have no chin but finishes the guy off? how does a guy have no chin but clearly is dominant?
see my conclusion here is some of you guys are like old ladies, looking to knock off anyone comming up. You never give props and when you do, its to your favorite fighter or someone with your likings.
There are so many fighter that I hate and wish they get knocked the **** out, but you see I give all fighters the props they deserve. They are human they feel pain, they breath and most important tehy put there life on the line every time they step into the ring.


AMEN!!!! My thoughts exactly.

I agree, that punch to his chin by Corley exposed the weakness of his chin.


It was to the temple area, and nobody was "exposed" tonight, except maybe the ****ing ****bag ref. He came out overly aggressive, was careless, and caught about a dozen hard, right hooks because of it. Let someone pound you a dozen times with their hardest hook upside your noggin and see how many it takes before you do the chicken-dance. :)

Castillo never hurt Floyd. Chop did but not Jose

theres one pic on the boxing scene media page, of castillo rocks mayweather in the first fight, he buckled him and he wobbled.
it happens
cotto jus got reckless

sorry, cotto gets no props for that fight. if you give props to fighters who get hit once, and have a full almost min to recover without getting hit again, what are you giving props for? and if your going to give props, chop gets them, for taking more shots from a heavier guy.

Corley invented a new dance today.

it was called:

"the knee to canvas lingo".

well you guys are right to, because if cotto wasn't so careless maybe he wouldn't have taken that shot. but in the future hes going to need to take shots like that better.

I cant believe im hearing this. Cotto has no chin because he got hit with a SUPER MONSTER PUNCH right dead in his temple? Mostly anyone would have been knocked out cold on the canvas. Its amazing how he was able to stay up after being OUT ON HIS FEET and still taking a barrage of body punches afterwards. I mean to comeback after that is truly amazing. Almost any one else would be gone. I'm pretty sure cotto was fighting the rest of the fight with a concussion and he still came back even though the stoppage was bull****.

i rather have that than the hookie pookie lol

damn if he got a concussion he should retire cause Corley has no power in this punches. Kostya, Zab, Gatti, Oscar, Mosley, Moayorga would all send him to the funeral home

sorry, cotto gets no props for that fight. if you give props to fighters who get hit once, and have a full almost min to recover without getting hit again, what are you giving props for? and if your going to give props, chop gets them, for taking more shots from a heavier guy.

Will give it up you're te only one that sees this fight like that. You seem to think that no one is vulnerable to a good shot. Come on man I highly doubt it that you was going for Cotto tonight. You're rying very hard to sound humble but, you're sounding very one sided.

you can't compare zabs flash knock down to the chicken dance of cotto tonight, say what you want, but no comparison.
You have to be kidding me? Zab got hit with a monster right and he got up right away and didn't know what the **** was going on. That was a hell of a lot worse than cotto getting hit by a monster right and STAYING UPRIGHT!

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no seriously i was all for cotto, i never really liked chop. i was just dissapointed tonight with cotto gettin wobbly.

damn if he got a concussion he should retire cause Corley has no power in this punches. Kostya, Zab, Gatti, Oscar, Mosley, Moayorga would all send him to the funeral home

Here we go again witht the no power ****!! He got hit in the temple!!! it doesn't take a strong puncher to rock some one with a shot to the temple.

A man doesnt have to have an amazing punch to hurt someone. Corley landed a PERFECT punched on the temple that shouldve destroyed cotto. It is truly amazing how cotto survived. Cotto still has a great chin cuz most likely if it was someone else, it would have been a one punck knockout.

:cool: Cotto went to school tonite and gets a passing grade...Corley fails miserably...this is the problem when u win a title at such a young age...the expectations are too great...Cotto will be a much better fighter next time out and is still the man to beat at 140

IMO. If Chop hit Zab with the same punch that he rocked Cotto with,

Zab would be sitting on next tuesday.

A man doesnt have to have an amazing punch to hurt someone. Corley landed a PERFECT punched on the temple that shouldve destroyed cotto. It is truly amazing how cotto survived. Cotto still has a great chin cuz most likely if it was someone else, it would have been a one punck knockout.
I agree,Corely hit Cotto with some solid punches to the chin and he kept taking em.

well thats the end of that ref's career

Chop Chop fell short again which is no surprise to most.The fact that Chop Chop exposed Cottos glass chin/temple,is a victory in itself because you learned a little more about Cotto than ya did before the fight.

well thats the end of that ref's career

In the U.S.A. at least.

ye as soon as i saw that ref he didnt look qualified to me

That ref should be banned from doinf another fight. The idiot didn't even know english!!! He did stop the fight pre maturely even though chop chop was on his way out anyway.

If anything, this is the best thing that could have happened to cotto. He showed everyone that he can face adversity and he has gained alot of knowledge and experience out of this fight. Again its amazing how cotto kept his composure after that. Someone else might have not only been knocked out completely but would have given up just not to feel that kinda of hurt again.

almost the same thing that happened to roy jones, chin was exposed, other fighters became not scared of him. all over.

The reason Roy's career is all over is he has no more foot movement, which doesn't bode well vs big lightheavies when you started your career at 154.

Yall need to learn how to put things into context. Everytime someone gets rocked the first thing you say is he has no chin.

Cotto has a ****in' chin. Jesus Christ. Any fighter yall see that can't take a shot as good as Nard or Tua you say has no chin.

Cotto has to deal stamina issues due to trying to weigh in at 140 lbs, and it backfired, plain and simple. Also I think the crowd played a factor in it, as well as Corley being a good fighter himself, who EVERYBODY, fighters and fans, underestimate just because he loses only to the very best.

Roy started at 154, went all the weigh to 199, and got KO'd with a perfect shot from a known hard-hitter after losing muscle mass in order to fight that guy. You say he has no chin, I say you have no sense.

Same goes for Cotto. This isn't the end-all for Cotto. These things can happen but it doesn't define Cotto as having no chin. You might be able to say his chin is not as good as you thought, but if you don't consider the factors mentioned above, you are a fool, period.

Let me say, lastly, that I was rooting HARD for Corley, and I think the stoppage was BULL****, so take that into account with the words I have just dealt out.

I do however, get the feeling that:

Even if Cotto knocked Corley out in impressive fashion...

Cotto haters would blame the loss on "Iron Deficiency".

Corley's last chance at glory ends with a robbery..

:cool: Cotto went to school tonite and gets a passing grade...Corley fails miserably...this is the problem when u win a title at such a young age...the expectations are too great...Cotto will be a much better fighter next time out and is still the man to beat at 140


Probably not too much longer, though. I agree with the ringside "expert"....he's not going to be able to stay at Jr. Welterweight much longer.

Chop Chop fell short again which is no surprise to most.The fact that Chop Chop exposed Cottos glass chin/temple,is a victory in itself because you learned a little more about Cotto than ya did before the fight.

Here's another idiot. Let's see if Pacquiao gets clocked with a good one in the fight with morales and lives to celebrate his victory...God forbid someone say he has a glass chin. perfect example is how manny KD Marques 3 time in thei last fight but, Marquez obviously came back to whoop manny on many of the score cards and if I remember correct I saw Manny dazed for a few in that fight. another thing does that mean that Manny is a garbage fighter because he didn't finish Marques off??? Please man!!!

cotto has no chin

Here's another idiot. Let's see if Pacquiao gets clocked with a good one in the fight with morales and lives to celebrate his victory...God forbid someone say he has a glass chin. perfect example is how manny KD Marques 3 time in thei last fight but, Marquez obviously came back to whoop manny on many of the score cards and if I remember correct I saw Manny dazed for a few in that fight. another thing does that mean that Manny is a garbage fighter because he didn't finish Marques off??? Please man!!!


Wrong thread moron!

did you guys see that big mexican jump up on the mat when Corley's corner ran up to the ref? he was sayin "THIS IS OUR CITY *****"..****ing disgrace. im never fighting in mexico.i can see now why jones never left the US,**** liek that

The idiot didn't even know english!!!

And? They were in Puerto Rico. Criticize the ref on legitimate points, not bigotry.

did you guys see that big mexican jump up on the mat when Corley's corner ran up to the ref? he was sayin "THIS IS OUR CITY *****"..****ing disgrace. im never fighting in mexico.i can see now why jones never left the US,**** liek that


PUERTO RICO IS IN THE UNITED STATES.

and they are not mexicans.

wtf?

cotto has no chin

What ever you say Will, you're "god send" At this point I just think that you're trying very hard not to make any sense what so ever on purpose. Guess what? You're doing a very good job at sounding foolish. My that be your true demeanor?? I think so.

sounds like I missed an exciting contravertial match... DAMN!

And? They were in Puerto Rico. Criticize the ref on legitimate points, not bigotry.

Yo, I'm 100% PR and I even disagreed with that ref being in there.

Sometimes I read this forum and I say to myself , my god some of these people dont know boxing or this forum has some idiots. How does a guy have no chin but has never been down? how does a guy have no chin but finishes the guy off? how does a guy have no chin but clearly is dominant?
see my conclusion here is some of you guys are like old ladies, looking to knock off anyone comming up. You never give props and when you do, its to your favorite fighter or someone with your likings.
There are so many fighter that I hate and wish they get knocked the **** out, but you see I give all fighters the props they deserve. They are human they feel pain, they breath and most important tehy put there life on the line every time they step into the ring.
good F*CKING post. very true. finally sumone points out the no knowledge-havin' boxing fans.

PUERTO RICO IS IN THE UNITED STATES.

and they are not mexicans.

wtf?


hahahah when has Puerto Rico been in the USA?

hahahah when has Puerto Rico been in the USA?

It's a common wealth you idiot!!!

He is overated. He has a weak chin for sure. KT will surely dispose of him.

He is overated. He has a weak chin for sure. KT will surely dispose of him.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! Some of these guys must only know boxing from playing Fight Nigh "04"....lol

He is overated. He has a weak chin for sure. KT will surely dispose of him.I thought I would never see this many childish noobs here at boxingscene. If you say someone has no chin by getting hurt by a monster punch in the worst spot possible you are a NOOB!

I thought I would never see these many childish noobs here at boxingscene. If you say someone has no chin by getting hit by a monster punch in the worst spot possible you are a NOOB!

I don't think they can help it DJ...They know nothing about the sport. Again you can have the best chin and can get rocked with a good shot. by the way he got hit in the temple/ side of the head. NOOOOOOBS to the sport I guarantee.

some ppl on here are stupid. how are you gonna say cotto has no chin. cotto got hit in the temple. thats where we get our balance from. anyone that gets hit clean(especially if they don't see it) is gon be at least a lil buzzed. the man ain't been hurt before so it just showed his flaw. when he throws his right he drops his left. that had nothing to do with his so called "bad chin" it had to do with cotto's mistake and corley made him pay. although it was funny seeing cotto dancing around the ring.
also i would like to point out its waorse to let cotto finish the fight when he is in such hurt than to be in such hurt. cotto was punch drunk and corley couldn't even manage to knock him down. thats the big story of this fight

some ppl on here are stupid. how are you gonna say cotto has no chin. cotto got hit in the temple. thats where we get our balance from. anyone that gets hit clean(especially if they don't see it) is gon be at least a lil buzzed. the man ain't been hurt before so it just showed his flaw. when he throws his right he drops his left. that had nothing to do with his so called "bad chin" it had to do with cotto's mistake and corley made him pay. although it was funny seeing cotto dancing around the ring.
also i would like to point out its waorse to let cotto finish the fight when he is in such hurt than to be in such hurt. cotto was punch drunk and corley couldn't even manage to knock him down. thats the big story of this fight

No, we get our balance from our inner ears. But you're absolutely right in that, any shot that isn't prepared for (unseen) can do serious damage. Shots to the temple, or top of the head, if landed flush, and cause alot of head movement, are very dangerous and can put a man on the mat quick. Not a thing wrong with Cotto's chin.

some ppl on here are stupid. how are you gonna say cotto has no chin. cotto got hit in the temple. thats where we get our balance from. anyone that gets hit clean(especially if they don't see it) is gon be at least a lil buzzed. the man ain't been hurt before so it just showed his flaw. when he throws his right he drops his left. that had nothing to do with his so called "bad chin" it had to do with cotto's mistake and corley made him pay. although it was funny seeing cotto dancing around the ring.
also i would like to point out its waorse to let cotto finish the fight when he is in such hurt than to be in such hurt. cotto was punch drunk and corley couldn't even manage to knock him down. thats the big story of this fight

Funny??? It's never funny to see a fighter like that whether you're a fan or not...Prime example gerald McCleland..If you know nothing about him, Look him up

this fight can do nothing but make cotto become an even better fighter.

Yo, I'm 100% PR and I even disagreed with that ref being in there.

I disagreed with the stoppage, but I don't agree that the ref should speak English. American refs don't ALWAYS speak Spanish.

I disagreed with the stoppage, but I don't agree that the ref should speak English. American refs don't ALWAYS speak Spanish.

Most refs know a little spanish and most spanish fighters know what stop & break means. From the begining I didn't agree with him being in there. My feelings proved correct when he stopped the fight and not letting Cotto finish what was an already beaten fighter.

I don't think Cotto has a weak chin. I think his defense has been exposed. When going to the body, he is open to right hooks. He tries to go for the early KO and by doing so, he is open to counters. I think Corley sucks, cause he should've finished him when had the chance. When you have a your opponent hurt, everybody knows you don't go to the body, you go to the head. If that had been Mayweather, Gatti, Tszyu, or Harris, they would have finished Cotto in that round.

I don't think Cotto has a weak chin. I think his defense has been exposed. When going to the body, he is open to right hooks. He tries to go for the early KO and by doing so, he is open to counters. I think Corley sucks, cause he should've finished him when had the chance. When you have a your opponent hurt, everybody knows you don't go to the body, you go to the head. If that had been Mayweather, Gatti, Tszyu, or Harris, they would have finished Cotto in that round.


How about RICKY HATTON or PANCHITO BOJADO!?!

Those would be a KRAZI FIGHTs...b/c all are up and comers and still green.

I don't think Cotto has a weak chin. I think his defense has been exposed. When going to the body, he is open to right hooks. He tries to go for the early KO and by doing so, he is open to counters. I think Corley sucks, cause he should've finished him when had the chance. When you have a your opponent hurt, everybody knows you don't go to the body, you go to the head. If that had been Mayweather, Gatti, Tszyu, or Harris, they would have finished Cotto in that round.are you kidding me? thats won of the best things you can do.

How about RICKY HATTON or PANCHITO BOJADO!?!

Those would be a KRAZI FIGHTs...b/c all are up and comers and still green.




Yeah. Them too.

as soon as he gets to someone like gatti, his career is all over. the day he fights someone that can take a decent shot and also give one cotto will go down. i can't believe cotto did the chicken dance after a few shots from chop chop. mayweather took his shots better than that.

so I take it Cotto should retire?

so I take it Cotto should retire?

No but damn he's got more balls than B-HOp lolz...you hear dthe post fight interview...he said ihe did if to his people...that' sa llotat juevos bro...i give him more props than b-hop's weak performance for his fnas..

No but damn he's got more balls than B-HOp lolz...you hear dthe post fight interview...he said ihe did if to his people...that' sa llotat juevos bro...i give him more props than b-hop's weak performance for his fnas..can someone translate this to english?

People are acting as if Cotto was the one on the canvas 4 times.

Just watched replay- Corley was hitting him to the head(RD3), its Cotto defense that kept him up, he was stunned, but not out, Cotto wobbled outta trouble.

Just watched replay- Corley was hitting him to the head(RD3), its Cotto defense that kept him up, he was stunned, but not out, Cotto wobbled outta trouble.

NO YOUR WRONG.

Cotto was in Grave Danger. (according to chophuggers).

NO YOUR WRONG.

Cotto was in Grave Danger. (according to chophuggers).

Yeah great danger of having his career over....lol

Yeah great danger of having his career over....lol

its so pathetic, how people love Gatti.

THE KING of eating flush punches and getting hurt.

Yet, Cotto shows his heart by WINNING the fight,

oh but remember.......he got punched. So that means he sucks.

Cotto does not suck at all! he just lost that fight if it would been any other fighter that would of gone on the attack when he went spaghetti legs.

I don't think Cotto has a weak chin. I think his defense has been exposed. When going to the body, he is open to right hooks. He tries to go for the early KO and by doing so, he is open to counters. I think Corley sucks, cause he should've finished him when had the chance. When you have a your opponent hurt, everybody knows you don't go to the body, you go to the head. If that had been Mayweather, Gatti, Tszyu, or Harris, they would have finished Cotto in that round.


WOW lol. dude that would be anyone weakness when going to the body espacially being aggressive like cotto tonight he got owned for it hell learn from it though.

talkin about another version of the chicken dance... corley got em but didnt really go at him and finish him off... gatti will take his shots and throw harder shots... cotto wouldnt be able to take em imo....

Chopchop's:

"knee to canvas lingo"

is my favorite dance.

WOW lol. dude that would be anyone weakness when going to the body espacially being aggressive like cotto tonight he got owned for it hell learn from it though.

I seriously doubt that bro. The same **** happened when he fought N'dou.

I seriously doubt that bro. The same **** happened when he fought N'dou.
Cotto just plain got caught tonight, he will def. learn from it. Lets not forget the great tito trinidad has gotten knocked down several times early and he always comes back.

It happens its boxing like I have been saying best thing ever happen to him he will learn from it.

Cotto gt caught tonight that's all it was, he's human. This was a learning experience for him and I bet you he won't make the same mistake twice. He was fighting in front on his home crowd and that got to him. Just like Zab said in the win after spinx that he would never fight in Madison Square Garden for that same reason...Makes sense doesn't it???

you guys will eventually pull your heads out of cottos ass when he takes on the top fighters. you all prob think joe mesi is the next big heavy champ too huh. you gotta be able to take those big hits better than he did to stay on top. because the top fighters out there are gonna hit cotto ALOT more than chop did, especially now. floyd will pick him apart, zu or gatti lay him out.

The only thing that was exposed was Cotto's lack of defense not his chin. He did not even got hit on a chin you know. When you get hit on a temple flush you WILL get hurt no matter how good is your chin or thick is your neck. Also I as a fan of Cotto felt really bad about his corner. You dont hear **** Like that from Kostya's corner. His team did not scream "Sharmbe you are my *****" or "Zab, I just fu***d your mother" you know. And it was really sad to see that from Cotto's corner

cotto has no chin!
next time tko! unbeatable....bring him to the canvas.

first of all when you talk about someones chin or their beard we're talking about his ability to take a punch, how well they take it means they have a a better chin or like corey sanders, as said by jm lamply, "sanders has one hell of a BEARD" lol loved that.

first of all when you talk about someones chin or their beard we're talking about his ability to take a punch, how well they take it means they have a a better chin or like corey sanders, as said by jm lamply, "sanders has one hell of a BEARD" lol loved that.
You did not get me. When you get hit fkush on a tempple and ear area you will get hurt no matter how good you are in a chin or toughness department.Again the only thing that was exposed was Cotto's defense and how he got careless and paid for it. He should not fight Tszyu for any money though. Because than it will be the remake of THE CHICKEN DANCE. :(

ok i agree, but all the fighters that you mentioned will hit cotto on the temple alot harder. with worse results for cotto.

You did not get me. When you get hit fkush on a tempple and ear area you will get hurt no matter how good you are in a chin or toughness department.Again the only thing that was exposed was Cotto's defense and how he got careless and paid for it. He should not fight Tszyu for any money though. Because than it will be the remake of THE CHICKEN DANCE. :(

moorer stuck foreman on the chin and temple like 5 times each spot and he didnt wobble the least bit

You did not get me. When you get hit fkush on a tempple and ear area you will get hurt no matter how good you are in a chin or toughness department.Again the only thing that was exposed was Cotto's defense and how he got careless and paid for it. He should not fight Tszyu for any money though. Because than it will be the remake of THE CHICKEN DANCE. :(

i remember ward gettin hit in the ear by gatti in one of they're fights, and it puttin ward down. and we all know ward can take a hell of shot. so your right about getting hit in the temple or ear when you don't see it coming.

He did the disco thing like Tito, hahaha, but i think he just got careless.

i think they both do the disco because they hold their hands high up, and when they get hit they instinctually defend with hands all the way up there,making the legs harder to balance all that weight

as soon as he gets to someone like gatti, his career is all over. the day he fights someone that can take a decent shot and also give one cotto will go down. i can't believe cotto did the chicken dance after a few shots from chop chop. mayweather took his shots better than that.




No question, Gatti will put Cotto to sleep.

oh my god, if it weren't for chop not knowing how to finish someone, cottos career was over. cotto took a weak shot that almost required no follow up, poor follow up by chop is why cotto won the fight. did i mention the shot by chops weak arm !!!


...Lets not get carried away with the whole thing. He is a young kid that got careless. He will be more careful in the future and it was a learning experience. He came back from it nicely and didn't let it send him into a panic like it would have most young guys. I give him credit for getting back in that fight and putting a hurt on Corley. I think the kid will still be a very good one with some seasoning.

You people need to understand that Cotto outweighed Corley by 17 pounds. In the heavyweight division it's not that big a deal but in the junior and welterweight class it makes a world of difference. Maybe if Corley was a bit heavier he may have knocked Cotto down. Cotto got careless and that is why he got hit as many times as he did. Also by saying Cotto has no chin it's obvious that you did not see the fight. It was a behind the ear shot that wobbled him. It happens to every boxer if they get hit there.

What a ludicrously dumb post.

A lot of people have made themselves look extremely foolish over a misstep from which Cotto recovered and went on to dish out a beating.

Lets not mention the fact that the fight was over when Corley feigned a low blow in the first in order to prevent certain defeat.

What a ludicrously dumb post.

A lot of people have made themselves look extremely foolish over a misstep from which Cotto recovered and went on to dish out a beating.

Lets not mention the fact that the fight was over when Corley feigned a low blow in the first in order to prevent certain defeat.
Exactly right, the right hand was right on the waistline and the left to the liver hurt him as you saw in the replay. I don't know if anybody noticed but about a minute into his time he was allowed he looked at his corner w/ a smirk and winked. If it wasn't for an incompetent ref the fight would have been over round 2.

coto did lowblow corely with one of them knock downs, if u cant see that your just lying to yourself. corley was handling coto's punches and he caught coto with an excellent counter shot. u cant say coto was gonna beat him anyway cause it never happened so shut up about that.

coto did lowblow corely with one of them knock downs, if u cant see that your just lying to yourself. corley was handling coto's punches and he caught coto with an excellent counter shot. u cant say coto was gonna beat him anyway cause it never happened so shut up about that.
You need to watch the fight again, I've watched it twice now in slow motion and he did not hit him low. Corley didn't even react to the right on the waistline, the left to the liver made him hunch over to the side and run sideways.

You need to watch the fight again, I've watched it twice now in slow motion and he did not hit him low. Corley didn't even react to the right on the waistline, the left to the liver made him hunch over to the side and run sideways.

first knockdown in round 5 looked low to me corley knew it was low also

first knockdown in round 5 looked low to me corley knew it was low also
You really must not have seen the shot, none of the shots from the knockdown in round 5 were low. It was a hard body shot that made him go down.

You really must not have seen the shot, none of the shots from the knockdown in round 5 were low. It was a hard body shot that made him go down.

you have your opnion i have mine i think it was low now if u make a slow reply GIF thing to show me it wasnt then go ahead till then i see it low

you have your opnion i have mine i think it was low now if u make a slow reply GIF thing to show me it wasnt then go ahead till then i see it low
Mine isn't an opinion it's a fact, I've seen it slow motion TWO times. Maybe you should ask some other people who have seen the fight twice and know what they are talking about.

i'll like to point out that he got hit with a punch to the left side of his head, not the chin, wasnt that the same shot that RJjr got from G.J? it was more of a punch over his left ear than the chinOkay, someone was watching the same fight that I was watching, instead about talking about his suspect chin, why don't we talk about how an untested contender got rocked, and boxed his way back in the fight by sticking and moving, until he gots his legs and power back and then came back to punk a former champ into quitting like a little ho...That was a premature stoppage, the punk didn't want to fight anymore after getting banged in the body...Corley didn't even get hit with a punch and took a new and gave to me what looked like a look of "f*ck ref I quit", so the ref stopped the fight, but I look forward to seeing corley get blasted out in a rematch...

the weight drain is alarming for cotto's ability to absorb a punch. if he does the "breakdance" from a light puncher like corley, he'll be put on his back from a tyzyu right hander.

dont get me wrong here guys, i was all for cotto winning the fight, i was rooting for him, i was a fan until this fight. but after this showing i was just dissapointed. i'm just saying, if cotto takes another step up in opponents hes gonna get knocked out. i'm not hatin on cotto or anything.
You WERE a Fan until this FIGHT? Man, your just a bandwagon kid who's probably 10 years old and whoever seems to be invincible in the ring your quick to jump on the NUTSACK! Go home kid!

Sometimes I read this forum and I say to myself , my god some of these people dont know boxing or this forum has some idiots. How does a guy have no chin but has never been down? how does a guy have no chin but finishes the guy off? how does a guy have no chin but clearly is dominant?
see my conclusion here is some of you guys are like old ladies, looking to knock off anyone comming up. You never give props and when you do, its to your favorite fighter or someone with your likings.
There are so many fighter that I hate and wish they get knocked the **** out, but you see I give all fighters the props they deserve. They are human they feel pain, they breath and most important tehy put there life on the line every time they step into the ring.
Nuff' Said!!!

The kid has a chin. He's taken some GOOD shots in his last few fights. but man, Cotto gets hit...A LOT. Its like he doesn't even see some punches coming. He can get countered like there's no tommorow cuz he ducks and reaches, those short arms ain't helping him one bit.

Mine isn't an opinion it's a fact, I've seen it slow motion TWO times. Maybe you should ask some other people who have seen the fight twice and know what they are talking about.


i have the fight downloaded lol i see low blow

Well,I was there personally and I can say the crowd played a huge factor in Cotto's performance.The people were cheering so loud that made imposible to me hearing Michael Buffer and even the damn bell during the fight.He was overly aggressive not mention Chop was his first southpaw and got caught around the ear a similar shot that knock Roy Jones out cold wich don't mean they haven't a good chin.Hell even when Cotto was badly hurt Chop put some hard shot on his chin and didn't kd him may be another puch to the temple would've KD him.And yes the ref sucks big time and the fight was stop too early,even then Cotto's weight was to much for corley(Sosa case) and he wouldn't have survive in the next two rounds IMO.As far of zoo,gatti and Pretty boy ko Cotto out it might be possible with shots on the Temple then to the body because this guy does have chin just look the punches he took in the chin during his career and even last night when he was hurt.

comepana who is the hottie in yr avatar

Me :D Nah is a hot japanese girl don't know who she is though.

He doesn't have a totally **** chin...but his chin is very mediocre...If he had a total glass jaw he would have been KO'd. On a grade scale his chin gets a C-

Okay, someone was watching the same fight that I was watching, instead about talking about his suspect chin, why don't we talk about how an untested contender got rocked, and boxed his way back in the fight by sticking and moving, until he gots his legs and power back and then came back to punk a former champ into quitting like a little ho...That was a premature stoppage, the punk didn't want to fight anymore after getting banged in the body...Corley didn't even get hit with a punch and took a new and gave to me what looked like a look of "f*ck ref I quit", so the ref stopped the fight, but I look forward to seeing corley get blasted out in a rematch...

probably one of the funnier posts I've read. "boxed his way back in the fight by sticking and moving"??? All he did was stagger around the ring and on the ropes while Corley blew his opportunity by throwing pitty-pat punches.

I mean its not Cotto's fault that Corley can't finish, but you can't give him credit for it either.

As far as "quiting", you're out of your mind. That ref was incompetant.

Maybe he will get blasted out in a rematch, though i guarantee Cotto doesnt give him one. If it does happen, he better not come into the ring and try to "blast" him out again or he might get caught with 50 more right hooks.

Uhmm,C- for a guy who haven't been down from a chin shot...what grades would you give to zoo,gatti,hatton a maywheather??

He doesn't have a totally **** chin...but his chin is very mediocre...If he had a total glass jaw he would have been KO'd. On a grade scale his chin gets a C-

Come one guy, I think you're being a lil too rough on the kid. He got caught CLEAN on the temple and I think it would have hurt anybody. He took some big shots from N'dou, Pinto and Bailey all can probably hit harder than chop chop and Cotto took them well. Against a stronger, more accurate puncher, he's meat. KT anyone? Gatti woudl finish him off if he ever rocked Cotto.

probably one of the funnier posts I've read. "boxed his way back in the fight by sticking and moving"??? All he did was stagger around the ring and on the ropes while Corley blew his opportunity by throwing pitty-pat punches.

I mean its not Cotto's fault that Corley can't finish, but you can't give him credit for it either.

As far as "quiting", you're out of your mind. That ref was incompetant.

Maybe he will get blasted out in a rematch, though i guarantee Cotto doesnt give him one. If it does happen, he better not come into the ring and try to "blast" him out again or he might get caught with 50 more right hooks.

Yeah Chop Chop was still gun shy even after COtto was wobbling left and right. He should have unloaded on his ass and never gave him time to recover. Cotto was helpless after that shot. HELPLESS!

Uhmm,C- for a guy who haven't been down from a chin shot...what grades would you give to zoo,gatti,hatton a maywheather??




C- is pretty good considering others on here are giving him an F from getting rocked last night.

Yeah Chop Chop was still gun shy even after COtto was wobbling left and right. He should have unloaded on his ass and never gave him time to recover. Cotto was helpless after that shot. HELPLESS!

what do you mean still gunshy? He only got gunshy after Cotto got hurt. I usual stay pretty quite when I watch a fight, but at that point I couldn't help but scream "what are you trying to do, tickle him till the ref jumps in!?!"

I know the whole "fight fix" is a joke. But I'm not gonna lie and say that that thought didnt go through my mind at that instance. Corley acted like a man that was paid to lose and accidently hurt his opponent.

what do you mean still gunshy? He only got gunshy after Cotto got hurt. I usual stay pretty quite when I watch a fight, but at that point I couldn't help but scream "what are you trying to do, tickle him till the ref jumps in!?!"

I know the whole "fight fix" is a joke. But I'm not gonna lie and say that that thought didnt go through my mind at that instance. Corley acted like a man that was paid to lose and accidently hurt his opponent.

yup i dont see how other people can miss it when coto was hurt he was just walking up to him with his arms down. and when the ref stopped the fight it looked like he didnt care and coto's face to looked liek he knew corley was paid to lose

the fight was not fixed, but it sure as hell looked like it was.

the only time Corley was gunshy is when Cotto was on queer street. it makes no sense.

Corley was fighting balls to the walls practically against a middleweight until he's helpless..... :dunno:

the fight was not fixed, but it sure as hell looked like it was.

the only time Corley was gunshy is when Cotto was on queer street. it makes no sense.

Corley was fighting balls to the walls practically against a middleweight until he's helpless..... :dunno:

the fight was not fixed but it looked liek it was? lol thast sorta funny

what do you mean still gunshy? He only got gunshy after Cotto got hurt. I usual stay pretty quite when I watch a fight, but at that point I couldn't help but scream "what are you trying to do, tickle him till the ref jumps in!?!"

I know the whole "fight fix" is a joke. But I'm not gonna lie and say that that thought didnt go through my mind at that instance. Corley acted like a man that was paid to lose and accidently hurt his opponent.

Yeah I meant during he got hurt. "still" wasn't suppose to eb in teh post. I know what you mean. It wasn't as if cotto was throwing anything back. He prolly threw one punch to keep Corley at bay and it worked. Lol I think chop chop said he was working teh body when he hurt Cotto lmao

the fight was not fixed but it looked liek it was? lol thast sorta funny

yea yea yea :D

What else do I say? I cant think of why he'd have such courage while Cotto is coming at him like a bull, then when Cotto's stumbling around the ring like a drunk...Corley starts to throw "smoke" gainer type punches. I would have had his ass if I was his trainer before RD4. I would have tore into him during that break. He had Cotto OUT and he blew it. he absolutly BLEW his chance at UPSET Fight of the Year.

It was a good punch but Cotto took lots of good shots and his chin is fine. He did not see the punch because Corley is a southpaw and he was being overly aggresive and thats why it happened. It wont happen again but everyone can think what they want and im sure some fighter will think ok he has no chin and get knocked out cold. ;)

cotto jus got to reckless and he paid for it

nex couple rounds tho he started boxing the way he always does. and even though it was disputed it was a TKO, and even if the fight would've went on IMO he would've knocked him out either way

I think we all see that Cotto is a naturally bigger fighter. Wether he was hit in the jaw or the temple, the fact remains he was badly shaken and if he was fighting a guy like KT, Harris, Gatti or Mayweather, Cotto would have been stopped. A fighter that weighs 157 lbs. was badly hurt by natural 140 pounder. Even Lovemore N'Dou had his momemts with Cotto. One would have to think his ability to handle a punch is suspect.
This was a good fight for Cotto, because I think his handlers and everyone now know that he has a few things to work on because he is not ready for prime time. He's certainly lost his aura of invincibility. Even the nuthuggers are humming a different tune.

i'll like to point out that he got hit with a punch to the left side of his head, not the chin, wasnt that the same shot that RJjr got from G.J? it was more of a punch over his left ear than the chin

Exactly..it was a temple shot, and he hung on for the remaininder of the round. I'm glad he got tested, and I'm glad he managed to survive it too. I dont think he's ready for the likes of Tszyu just yet, but I'd like to see him in against Judah or Mitchell.

Exactly right, the right hand was right on the waistline and the left to the liver hurt him as you saw in the replay. I don't know if anybody noticed but about a minute into his time he was allowed he looked at his corner w/ a smirk and winked. If it wasn't for an incompetent ref the fight would have been over round 2.

Yeah, I noticed it too. He did some acting last night, and Cotto lost a point (no warning..wtf?) because of it. He was seriously hurt from that body shot and it could easily have ended then!

it hasent been one day yet and this thread is on its 15th page and it seens u guys are repeating each others opions

it hasent been one day yet and this thread is on its 15th page and it seens u guys are repeating each others opions

I only took time to read the posts of a few..got tired of that and posted mine. I'd say alot of others did the same thing too :confused:

[QUOTE=Floydmayweather] It wont happen again QUOTE]Do you know somethin that God don't even know?

What a statement.

You WERE a Fan until this FIGHT? Man, your just a bandwagon kid who's probably 10 years old and whoever seems to be invincible in the ring your quick to jump on the NUTSACK! Go home kid!

kiss my ass, you know nothing about me and by saying that stuff you just look stupid. just because i'm rooting for someone doesn't mean i have to have my head up his ass till the day i die. i was really dissapointed with cotto, and ALOT of people were after lastnight. i guess god should strike me dead because i was really dissapointed with cotto performance with all his hype. and i think we all know whos nutsack you've been on. cottos chin must have been down there by his nuts with you lastnight during the fight, cause he took a shot to the balls betther than a right hook from a weak punching southpaw. go home yourself nut hugger.

i am not the biggest cotto fan, i like tszyu in the division then cotto, but are you guys idiots!! did you see all those shots cotto took in the fight before he got hurt!! he took some big shots and didn't even flinch!! he has no chin??????? look at where the punch hit him.......on his temple. you get hit there just right and you will be in trouble. he didn't get hit on the chin when he got badly hurt. go back and look at the replay. and how about all the other big shots he took on his chin after he got hurt. he has a chin just got caught in the worst place on the head!! he does have a chin. just got nailed on the temple. you guys are dumb for saying he has no chin.

cotto will be in trouble when he fights some quality fighters. his chin will give out on him.

i am not the biggest cotto fan, i like tszyu in the division then cotto, but are you guys idiots!! did you see all those shots cotto took in the fight before he got hurt!! he took some big shots and didn't even flinch!! he has no chin??????? look at where the punch hit him.......on his temple. you get hit there just right and you will be in trouble. he didn't get hit on the chin when he got badly hurt. go back and look at the replay. and how about all the other big shots he took on his chin after he got hurt. he has a chin just got caught in the worst place on the head!! he does have a chin. just got nailed on the temple. you guys are dumb for saying he has no chin.

Demarcus Corley has like 30 children.

These might be them disguised as posters.

cotto will be in trouble when he fights some quality fighters. his chin will give out on him.

none of the punches that hit his chin ever hurt cotto. watch the fight!!

lol good one

unfortunately a bad chin cannot be fixed from training.

unfortunately a bad chin cannot be fixed from training.

obviously this guy doesn't like cotto. and he doesn't listen. i said, none of the punches that hit his chin ever hurt cotto. watch the tape!! i'm not ssying he won't ever get knocked out, but last night he wasnt' hurt cuz of his chin!!

it was a temple shot that hurt him......stfu about the chin talk

it was a temple shot that hurt him......stfu about the chin talk

someone agrees with me!! wow!!

obviously this guy doesn't like cotto. and he doesn't listen. i said, none of the punches that hit his chin ever hurt cotto. watch the tape!! i'm not ssying he won't ever get knocked out, but last night he wasnt' hurt cuz of his chin!!



I'm not a hater at all. I did watch the fight last night. I'm no hater just telling it like it is he got rocked imagine what a fighter like Tszyu or Gatti will do to him.

someone agrees with me!! wow!!


okay, your not a hater but he didnt' get hurt from a shot to the chin. his chin is fine. he got hurt with a temple shot. obviously you werent paying to much attention since he never got hurt by a chin shot. he took those shots with ease.

It's really not that simple guys. Hitting someone on the chin causes a concussive effect because when you hit someone there, especially at the right angle, it will cause the whole head to violently move, shaking the brain or bouncing the brain against the skull.

People who say Cotto has a weak chin, they sort of do have an argument. They are just much too simple with it. First off, Cotto was hurt by Sosa a little too much with one punch right on the chin from a very small guy. Secondly, some people believe N'dou hurt Cotto, and Cotto was running at some points in that fight, but I myself do not remember specifically if and when he was hurt. Finally, we have the Corley fight, and everyone saw what happened there.

"Chin" is just another way of denoting someone's ability to take a punch. A punch to the temple, in my opinion, is equivocal to a punch directly on the chin...not in the mouth, on the nose, or on the forehead, but directly on the chin.

When you factor these things in with the fact that Cotto wanted to move down to 135 lbs recently, but of course could not, it's not hard to see why one might think Cotto has a pedestrian chin and is trying desperately to make 140 lbs in order to protect it.

it was a temple shot that hurt him......stfu about the chin talk

u are saying a temple shot is that much different? how come some fighters can withstand a shot to the chin, and a shot to the temple then,??? u remind me of richard simmons.

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/8079/simmonsletterman8cj.jpg

u are saying a temple shot is that much different? how come some fighters can withstand a shot to the chin, and a shot to the temple then,??? u remind me of richard simmons.

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/8079/simmonsletterman8cj.jpg



you moron the threads title says he has no CHIN......the punch that hurt him was a punch in the temple.......when did he get hit in the chin and get hurt? answer that you homo

you moron the threads title says he has no CHIN......the punch that hurt him was a punch in the temple.......when did he get hit in the chin and get hurt? answer that you homo

if corely hit him with that same shot, the way cotto was coming in with all he had,he wouldve gotten wobbled the exact same way.

i notice you like zab,cool,i like zab too,but how about getting a name of your own rather than use some stars?pretty ghey,what if everyone had names of great fighters that would be very weak and people like you that voice soft moronic opinons are why this board has gotten weaker , although it is still good

look.its cool,i know your a lil ***** irl that browses the boxing board to be hard.poser.

if corely hit him with that same shot, the way cotto was coming in with all he had,he wouldve gotten wobbled the exact same way.

i notice you like zab,cool,i like zab too,but how about getting a name of your own rather than use some stars?pretty ghey,what if everyone had names of great fighters that would be very weak and people like you that voice soft moronic opinons are why this board has gotten weaker , although it is still good

look.its cool,i know your a lil ***** irl that browses the boxing board to be hard.poser.

The title under your name says it best, you clueless dick.....how am I actin hard when I did not say anyhing about kicking your ass or anyhting like that..seems like you have some issues with yourself..Read what you type and read what I type..who is the one tryin to act hard...the fact is the title says he has no chin..he got hit on the temple and you dont know if the same shot would have hurt his chin so stfu...get corleys nuts off your chin idiot

if corely hit him with that same shot, the way cotto was coming in with all he had,he wouldve gotten wobbled the exact same way.

i notice you like zab,cool,i like zab too,but how about getting a name of your own rather than use some stars?pretty ghey,what if everyone had names of great fighters that would be very weak and people like you that voice soft moronic opinons are why this board has gotten weaker , although it is still good

look.its cool,i know your a lil ***** irl that browses the boxing board to be hard.poser.
Cotto was hit with HARDER shots to the chin and he walked right through them, did you not see the fight?

I don't think he saw the fight ... in fact I dont think alot of posters saw the fight......they keep talking about his chin.....and this moron is justr trying to get people worked up over nothing

What dunnagan is saying is actually true

Some fighters like Foreman could take shots to the temple and to the chin, and when most people say chin they mean whether or not they can withstand a punch period,if a guy goes down from being hit on the head, temple or not, he doesnt have a good beard..if you suffer from temple punches and not from chin punches,well then I'm sorry but you have a weak beard. I agree that a temple shot hurts people a little bit more, only noticing this from punching others there, but there are plenty of other spots that are weaker than thne temple, such as right behind the ear on the brain stem.

dont act like if you get tapped on the temple you go down, like it's the 'touch of sleep' lol, nigel benn has been smacked on the temple repeatedly and didnt go down from em,foreman,marciano,ali,frazier,etc (when foreman landed a temple shot on frazier he went down,however foreman hits much harder than feeble corely)

You guys talking about 'he still has a chin it was a temple shot' ...I shake my head and wonder why...

What dunnagan is saying is actually true

Some fighters like Foreman could take shots to the temple and to the chin, and when most people say chin they mean whether or not they can withstand a punch period,if a guy goes down from being hit on the head, temple or not, he doesnt have a good beard..if you suffer from temple punches and not from chin punches,well then I'm sorry but you have a weak beard. I agree that a temple shot hurts people a little bit more, only noticing this from punching others there, but there are plenty of other spots that are weaker than thne temple, such as right behind the ear on the brain stem.

You guys talking about 'he still has a chin it was a temple shot' ...I shake my head and wonder why...
So then I guess every boxer has a weak chin since EVERY SINGLE BOXER has been wobbled in thier careers.

people fail to realize boxers are humans to...they are not machines.......any man can be hurt by a perfectly placed punch

So then I guess every boxer has a weak chin since EVERY SINGLE BOXER has been wobbled in thier careers.

In his opinion.

its time for Cotto to hang up the gloves.

hes finished. Too much punishment from the best 140 pounder.

Cotto was hit with HARDER shots to the chin and he walked right through them, did you not see the fight?

Actually..When Cotto got wobbled, the shot was intense not because of it being a temple punch, but because he was coming in with a full power left hook, when he got punched with it. No other shot to his chin landed like that, and you are a funny guy for saying that ;-) obviously you should rewind the tape and watch it again, either that or you've never punched someone in the ring when they are coming up with a full power hook,or saw someone do it and recognize it,.. it multiplies the power since it's adding his leverage along with yours.

Proof? Look at the left image in my sig. Herol Graham, a guy with an awesome chin who has never been KO'd, is coming in with all his leverage with a full power hook. But right as the weight gets to his mid section, he gets smashed by Jackson, doubling the damage of the punch, and is why he stayed out for five minutes after that punch landed.

Cotto was hit with HARDER shots to the chin and he walked right through them, did you not see the fight?

no he did not walk right thru them, he got KD 3 times and lost.

So then I guess every boxer has a weak chin since EVERY SINGLE BOXER has been wobbled in thier careers.

wobbled is one thing.

out on your feet like cotto was is another. just look at him after the punch lands, he is so close to being KO'd, and he's been wobbled before too, (but not like that)

no he did not walk right thru them, he got KD 3 times and lost.

i guess you could say he got KD technically because the ref had downs syndrome, but if you look at the first knockdown, you'll see that Cotto used a nice tactic, he didnt even punch him, he cupped his hand around the back of Corely's head and pushed him down...

it was hard to see but watch the fight 6 times like I have and you'll catch it

as for the second knockdown, corely's knee didnt touch the canvas,he was holding the ropes as well. it wasnt even a real knockdown...

and the third time his knee touched the canvas wasnt from a punch,it was because gravity forced him down from ducking..he took a knee, he was not KD legitimately at all in that entire fight..

someone agrees with me!! wow!!


SEVERAL agree with you! Anybody that watches the fight can plainly see that the punch that hurt him was to the temple (no boxer is immune to those!), and all the ones that landed on his chin he just walked right thru.
He should have used much better defense, but the crowd had him all pumped up. I dont expect him to fight that dangerously next time..not at all. :eek:

lol it seems these days when a fighter gets wobbled, he's suspect to take major heat from everybody.

Hahaha,you guys are so hard on the up coming young boxers.Based on many oppinions it seems that all top 140 pounders have weak chin or beard,first Cotto last Saturday,Gatti have been KD many times and even worst,Floyd was hurt against Chop,Zoo was badly beaten by Phillips and kd many times even twice in the first round,hatton was down in the first round and hurt several times,Mitchell anyone knows what happened,I don't know about harris though.So all top 140 pounders are weak suckers then????????? :rolleyes:

i guess you could say he got KD technically because the ref had downs syndrome, but if you look at the first knockdown, you'll see that Cotto used a nice tactic, he didnt even punch him, he cupped his hand around the back of Corely's head and pushed him down...

it was hard to see but watch the fight 6 times like I have and you'll catch it

as for the second knockdown, corely's knee didnt touch the canvas,he was holding the ropes as well. it wasnt even a real knockdown...

and the third time his knee touched the canvas wasnt from a punch,it was because gravity forced him down from ducking..he took a knee, he was not KD legitimately at all in that entire fight..


mayb it was not a legit KD's for any of them, but he did go down, and it did count. in the first round when he got KD, there was no complain by corely. and if u hav to watch it six times dont expect the ref to get it right on the first time. and gravity forced him down?? he went down and thats his fault. u seem to be defending corely than corely himself. he said i was in trouble so i took a knee

Hahaha,you guys are so hard on the up coming young boxers

we're just hard on invincible overhyped hometown heroes that get put out on their feet by a single blow from a fighter with less than 50% knockout ratio..

mayb it was not a legit KD's for any of them, but he did go down, and it did count. in the first round when he got KD, there was no complain by corely. and if u hav to watch it six times dont expect the ref to get it right on the first time. and gravity forced him down?? he went down and thats his fault. u seem to be defending corely than corely himself. he said i was in trouble so i took a knee

Youre right, thats EXACTLY what Corley said, that he was in trouble, and that when a fighter is in trouble he is allowed to take a knee. Gravity? Say what?? :confused: :D

im not gonna say he has no chin i mean he has taken shots from every fighter but his defense is a lil overrated. IMO he would've taken out corley soon after but the fight was stopped. he lost my respect a lil but no like other people say he has no chin. he just got caught and the way to get back respect is for a rematch to take place and he has to finish corley this time. im a big fan of cotto btw.

im not gonna say he has no chin i mean he has taken shots from every fighter but his defense is a lil overrated. IMO he would've taken out corley soon after but the fight was stopped. he lost my respect a lil but no like other people say he has no chin. he just got caught and the way to get back respect is for a rematch to take place and he has to finish corley this time. im a big fan of cotto btw.

How did he lose some of your respect? I dont understand that....he didnt ask the ref to stop the fight, and youre probably right about him finishing it anyway in the next round or two. So many pepole are trashing him and he did nothing wrong except fight recklessly and use poor defense. He's still so very young, and obviously has alot to learn. I still like him, ALOT, and am proud of him for taking those shots like a man and never going down. Him coming back the way he did impressed me too. He needed to be tested so we could see just what he's got, and he was.

idk i guess he had a aura of invincibility and i didnt want to believe that he could be hurt that easy, especially like that. i guess the right punch can do it.

idk i guess he had a aura of invincibility and i didnt want to believe that he could be hurt that easy, especially like that. i guess the right punch can do it.

NOBODY is invincible! They might like to think they are, and some of us may like to believe they are, but nobody is...not really. Being invincible would lose the fun for me..where's the challenge? Any boxer, I dont care how damn good and/or strong he is, can and will go down if hit in the right spot! We've seen plenty of evidence of that in the past year with Jones and then the body shot that took DLH down, so we have proof of that.
If they are invincible then there's no point in getting in the ring at all..you already know the outcome every time, and thats just no fun at all! ;) But Cotto didnt go down, which was my point entirely. He took it and recovered and came back to win. Pretty impressive to me!

Did anyone notice how small those gloves were they were fighting with? compared to the balloons Hopkins and Eastman were fighting with a week earlier they looked tiny.

This fight reminded me of another prospect who was out on his feet, legs turned to jelly. Then he rallied back and like the Cotto fight, it was stopped way too early. He was trying to impress some french promoters, to get a contract. They sent him home without a deal, and everyone must have thought that's it an overrated prospect. He was Puerto Rican too, his name Was Felix Trinidad, the fight was with Alberto Cortes in Paris. :cool:

is there a video of this?

He walked through ever punch that Chop Chop hit him with on the chin. The Shot that hit his temple was a winding shot and it was unseen watch the fight again Cotto is look right at him and he then wham it connects. Cotto was not himself that fight and since when does being shaken by a temple punch mean u have no chin?

oh my god, if it weren't for chop not knowing how to finish someone, cottos career was over. cotto took a weak shot that almost required no follow up, poor follow up by chop is why cotto won the fight. did i mention the shot by chops weak arm !!!


corley tried to do the right thing. Cotto was hurt and had his guard up real high.

coley was trying to dig the body then go upstairs to finish.

cotto fought thru it very well - end of story

so people let it be he won thats it

Anyone who gets clipped on the temple will do the gumby dance. it's not that he has no chin. it was just a nice punch

Anybody else wonder who was fighting Corley on Sat? That didn't look like the Cotto I was used to seeing. He only looked like himself in the 5th when he took his time.

If Cotto is in with a better finisher and fights them the way he fought Corley then he should just hang em up now.

Cotto needs to work out problems with his susceptibility to right hooks. It was sad how many he was hit by.

Corley looked very good in that fight and was exploiting weakness when he saw the opportunity.

That was a wicked shot Cotto took and he did well to stay alive against a tough vet like Chop.

That was a great fight outside of the ref and low blows.

Anybody else wonder who was fighting Corley on Sat? That didn't look like the Cotto I was used to seeing. He only looked like himself in the 5th when he took his time.

If Cotto is in with a better finisher and fights them the way he fought Corley then he should just hang em up now.

Cotto needs to work out problems with his susceptibility to right hooks. It was sad how many he was hit by.

Corley looked very good in that fight and was exploiting weakness when he saw the opportunity.

That was a wicked shot Cotto took and he did well to stay alive against a tough vet like Chop.

That was a great fight outside of the ref and low blows.
Yup, cotto let himself get influenced by the crowd too much, if he would have just taken his time like he usually does he would have broken him down by round 7 or 8 and tko/ko'd his ass.

is there a video of this?

Yes on my HD. If and when I get in the DL section, I'll put it up.
;)

Cotto has no chin? wat is this thread a joke. I avnt seen him on the floor bfore and dont believe there is anyfing wrong wif his chin. I hate the way a fighter is jumped on by critics if he is slightly below par in one fight!

if Corley, a guy with like 50% Ko rate almost knocked out cotto, i'm sure Harris, Gatti, Tszyu and Mayweather would destroy him and i hope they do...


Borikua,....your boy is going DOWN!!

What about Randall Bailey, damn he can bang. Ya think he could KO Cotto?

I think Corley deserves a rematch and I think it shows some balls going right back after the guy that had you out on your feet one minute into round three.

And from the little bits I've read here and on other sites about Harris's previous "negotiations," I don't know that I'd ever want to try and waste my time trying to hammer out a deal with him. I don't know the whole story, but past negotiations he's had just don't look good on him.

Willie, be quiet. This is stupid. Apart from any other contention that I have with your thesis, one less would not have ended Cotto's career.

Cotto got hit with a good shot and got a little dazed. He covered up well and backed away, which made it hard for Corley to finish him. Corley went to the body cuz he couldn't get to the head.

If Cotto has no chin how did he survive fights with Kelson Pinto, Randall Bailey and Carlos Maussa? They're all better punchers than Corley is, yet none of them managed to phaze Cotto even a little bit. And before you go saying that the reason Corley's knockout ratio is so much lower is because he fought better opposition, stop, because he hasn't. He's fought mostly second tier guys, and when he's really stepped up all the way, he's lost, same as the other fighters I mentioned.

Cotto hasn't got a weak chin, he got reckless. He also got surprised by a southpaw's punch. Note that there are not too many left handers on Cotto's record, and not too many right handers could have thrown the punch that hurt him. He got stunned, and came back and won the fight. Regardless of whether the ref stopped it early or not (and he did) that outcome was inevitable.

Finally, I'd like to say that being wobbled by one punch over the course of 110 total rounds does not mean he has a bad chin. It means he got wobbled only once despite taking hundreds and possibly thousands of punches. So who gives a rat's ass?

Yup, cotto let himself get influenced by the crowd too much, if he would have just taken his time like he usually does he would have broken him down by round 7 or 8 and tko/ko'd his ass.


At the time of the stoppage,

who was ahead on your scorecards?

Cotto does have a chin not great but its not garbage. Gatti would box him silly and knock him silly.

Hahaha,you guys are so hard on the up coming young boxers.Based on many oppinions it seems that all top 140 pounders have weak chin or beard,first Cotto last Saturday,Gatti have been KD many times and even worst,Floyd was hurt against Chop,Zoo was badly beaten by Phillips and kd many times even twice in the first round,hatton was down in the first round and hurt several times,Mitchell anyone knows what happened,I don't know about harris though.So all top 140 pounders are weak suckers then????????? :rolleyes:


i dont like how cotto trys to act so hard now

Cotto does have a chin not great but its not garbage. Gatti would box him silly and knock him silly.
The thing is, Cotto has no defense. He has this face first style that will get him in trouble at the top, particularly against Tszyu. I think Cotto would be too strong for Gatti.

Cotto has a good chin..He had yet to be dropped by a chin shot.The shot that wobbled him is the same kind of shot that Gatti wobbled Ward in their 2nd fight.And the exact type of shor Moorer landed on Jirov to KO him right around the top of the ear and Jirov isnt Chinny.

So they are 2 different type of shots.

i dont like how cotto trys to act so hard now
how does he act hard?

At the time of the stoppage,

who was ahead on your scorecards?
I had cotto ahead by one point and he was winning the 5th obviously, had the ref not stopped the fight he would have been up by 3 after round 5.

Cotto actually did quite well not to go down or get stopped by that shot, him doing the Judah dance has nothing to do with the quality of his chin. He got hit on the temple which threw of his equilibrium. I liked the way he fought back even though he was still hurt.

However the fight was prematurly stopped, Corley was not even hit for the last knockdown, he took a knee to get some extra time to recover

I had cotto ahead by one point and he was winning the 5th obviously, had the ref not stopped the fight he would have been up by 3 after round 5.

how could he only be ahead by 1 point:

when Corley was on the canvas 3 times already?

Did you score Corley's big round a 10-5 because you were so

impressed?

Round1:Cotto10-8
Round2:9-9
Round3:Corley10-8
Round4:Cotto10-9
Total Cotto37-Corley36
Round5:Would have been Cotto10-7

how does he act hard?

he always has this mean look on his face in public, and it isn't his default face.his default face is noticeable when you watch last weeks fights over, right when it kicks off it shows him talking w/ a cap backwards and he looks completely different.

guys a good fighter, but it's lame that he makes that face all the time

he got hit on the temple not chin.

hes been stunned onces, and recoverd, give the guy some credit.

Anybody else wonder who was fighting Corley on Sat? That didn't look like the Cotto I was used to seeing. He only looked like himself in the 5th when he took his time.

If Cotto is in with a better finisher and fights them the way he fought Corley then he should just hang em up now.

Cotto needs to work out problems with his susceptibility to right hooks. It was sad how many he was hit by.

Corley looked very good in that fight and was exploiting weakness when he saw the opportunity.

That was a wicked shot Cotto took and he did well to stay alive against a tough vet like Chop.

That was a great fight outside of the ref and low blows.

Cotto didnt look quite the same, I agree. I think the crowd played a major part in that though, and have to hope that when he's not fighting in his own town he will calm down and fight the way he used to. That night he completely threw caution to the wind and showed very little defense; he ate far too many hooks from Corley! I still love to watch him fight, and dont have anything negative to say about his performance other than the lack of defense..he will not get away with that against Gatti, and he is in no way ready for Tszyu either..not yet ;)

he always has this mean look on his face in public, and it isn't his default face.his default face is noticeable when you watch last weeks fights over, right when it kicks off it shows him talking w/ a cap backwards and he looks completely different.

guys a good fighter, but it's lame that he makes that face all the time


hes focused.. thats all.