View Full Version : Appreciating Leon Spinks!


Kimmy
02-26-2005, 10:35 PM
I know this guy turned into a one hit wonder but what he accomplished that Febuary night against Muhammad Ali was history. Spinks, an Olimpic medalist, entered the ring 6 - 0 -1.
Ali was 55 - 2. Why this fight was sanctioned in the first place escapes me but sure enough Neon Leon jumped on Ali and won a deserved SD win.
The reason i bring this up is consider fighters with inexperienced records such as Spinks in todays age. If given a shot against, never an Ali, but a Ruiz or a Brewster, wouldn`t you think someone out there would win having only a few fights?
Should these upstarts be given shots sometimes just as Leon Spinks was?

Dynamite76
02-27-2005, 09:52 AM
If they go through the right tests and pass, yes, they should get the shots.By the way, Spinks was a decent pro, but a better amateur.

The Phantom Menace
02-27-2005, 10:37 AM
I know this guy turned into a one hit wonder but what he accomplished that Febuary night against Muhammad Ali was history. Spinks, an Olimpic medalist, entered the ring 6 - 0 -1.
Ali was 55 - 2. Why this fight was sanctioned in the first place escapes me but sure enough Neon Leon jumped on Ali and won a deserved SD win.
The reason i bring this up is consider fighters with inexperienced records such as Spinks in todays age. If given a shot against, never an Ali, but a Ruiz or a Brewster, wouldn`t you think someone out there would win having only a few fights?
Should these upstarts be given shots sometimes just as Leon Spinks was?




Even though Leon Spinks really didn't take the boxing world by storm, he did have his one hit. Defeating Ali with little experience was a BIG hit. But also keep in mind that Ali was far from being in his prime.

ophqui
02-27-2005, 10:45 AM
i dont think the fight was a case of giving spinks a chance to ***** or whatever, but of giving ali an easy fight at the closing of his career. That still does happen, i mean danny williams and vitali klitsko? very similar situation except danny was overwhelmed.

rudy
03-14-2005, 10:18 AM
They can do the same with Audley Harrison he has had about 10 fights let him fight Klitscko now not later

Kimmy
03-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Harrisons had 17 fights and he doesn`t stand a chance in hell....i`ve seen like 15 of his fights. He isn`t world class!

Tha Greatest
04-01-2005, 04:45 PM
I give lots of props to Spinks

but the same thing wouldn't have happened with a younger Ali

franker01
04-08-2005, 11:19 PM
Anyone remember Leon in his pre fight interviews with Howard Cosell? Referred to Ali as "Mr. Man". Seemed a little unsure of himself. Then went out and cleaned his clock. Ah, the memories...

Dempsey 1919
10-26-2005, 05:19 PM
leon spinks was an inexperienced, slow punk who caught an undertrained, overweight, old, didn't care much about the sport anymore muhammad ali. he is a bum if i ever saw one, which is exactly why ali embarrased him four months later when ali only weighed like 3 pounds lighter than the last time! he was still fairly over weight. who has heard anything about leon in the past, say 20 years. to me cassius clay and floyd patterson are the only fighters with an inexperienced record to win the title and go on to become greats. that ali-spinks I fight was a fluke, and it didnt really change boxing at all, like say, clay-liston I "I am thee king of the world. I'm pretty. I'm a bad man."

Punch Drunk Willie
10-26-2005, 05:55 PM
In some cases, if they fought the caliber fighters Spinks fought in his first seven. He wasn't weened on a long string of 0-0, 0-1, 1-2 no-names. After only seven fights he deserved a title shot every bit as much as Bonavena, Evangalista, and Jean Pierre Coopman. Problem is, I can't find a heavy with ten fights or less that has fought anyone worthwhile. Can you?

One thing is for sure, you can never take away being the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world from him, no matter what he did after.-- and he wasn't that bad of a guy, just not ready to be thrown into the world spotlight like that with his relative lack of skill and sophistication.

Dempsey 1919
10-27-2005, 02:52 PM
it was a fluke and he was lucky to get the shot in the first place.

Verstyle
10-27-2005, 04:06 PM
do ya'll have that fight

Dempsey 1919
10-28-2005, 02:02 PM
no but i saw it. it was pitiful, and ali still almost won.

KidBlackie
10-30-2005, 09:11 AM
The only folks who liked Leon were dentists, crack dealers, and Ali who should be grateful Leon gave him his title back not that it did Ali much good in the end.

Dempsey 1919
10-30-2005, 07:44 PM
The only folks who liked Leon were dentists, crack dealers, and Ali who should be grateful Leon gave him his title back not that it did Ali much good in the end.
spinks didn't give ali his title back, da dancing master took it from him in the ring.

Verstyle
10-30-2005, 08:45 PM
i appreciate leon spinks big ass gap. he lead the door way for ppl like bobby brown and michael strahan and thousands of hockey player to get some ***** alllllll around the world. :D

Dempsey 1919
10-30-2005, 10:00 PM
that is funny! hysterical post mystikal.

Dynamite76
10-31-2005, 06:58 PM
Leon was too small to make any real noise in the division, now if he had trained and went down to cruiser,he would've done better.

Dempsey 1919
10-31-2005, 10:36 PM
i don't think they had cruiserweights in the late 70s.

brownpimp88
01-26-2007, 11:35 PM
I honestly dont think leon spinks is that bad, sure his record reads 26-17-3. However thats cuz he was completely done from 86-95. His career from 1977-1985, does involve wins over ranked opponents and i thought the guy kinda had some potential. He blew it away with his drug addictions though. Either way, he was still a good amatuer though.

SABBATH
01-27-2007, 05:06 AM
I honestly dont think leon spinks is that bad, sure his record reads 26-17-3. However thats cuz he was completely done from 86-95. His career from 1977-1985, does involve wins over ranked opponents and i thought the guy kinda had some potential. He blew it away with his drug addictions though. Either way, he was still a good amatuer though.
Leon had an outstanding amateur career but never had much of an 'early' pro career where he built his record up. He fought Pedro Agosta in his 4th fight, who had just fought George Foreman in his last fight. He was fighting ranked guys in his 7th fight (Alfio Righetti) and won the title in his 8th fight. His fight with a prime Larry Holmes was only his 15th.

If Spinks had a normal career of starting out facing stiffs and confidence builders as most guys do, attach at least another 20 wins on his record.

Spinks did drop down to cruiserweight winning a controversial decision over Jesse Burnett then being stopped by former champ Carlos Deleon.

Leon went back up to heavy then dropped down again for a cruiserweight title fight against Dwight Qawi.

An interesting sidenote about the Agosta fight. Leon stopped Agosta in one round after it took Foreman 4 rounds. Agosta would say after the Spinks fight that Leon hit harder than Foreman!

brownpimp88
01-27-2007, 03:15 PM
Leon had an outstanding amateur career but never had much of an 'early' pro career where he built his record up. He fought Pedro Agosta in his 4th fight, who had just fought George Foreman in his last fight. He was fighting ranked guys in his 7th fight (Alfio Righetti) and won the title in his 8th fight. His fight with a prime Larry Holmes was only his 15th.

If Spinks had a normal career of starting out facing stiffs and confidence builders as most guys do, attach at least another 20 wins on his record.

Spinks did drop down to cruiserweight winning a controversial decision over Jesse Burnett then being stopped by former champ Carlos Deleon.

Leon went back up to heavy then dropped down again for a cruiserweight title fight against Dwight Qawi.

An interesting sidenote about the Agosta fight. Leon stopped Agosta in one round after it took Foreman 4 rounds. Agosta would say after the Spinks fight that Leon hit harder than Foreman!

Who would u pick in a fantasy matchup, braddock or prime leon.

SABBATH
01-27-2007, 10:57 PM
Who would u pick in a fantasy matchup, braddock or prime leon.This fight isn't exactly a fantasy and not one I've ever given any thought to. Uhhhhhhhh....let me see.

Braddock is a counterpuncher with the better chin and better one shot power with the right hand. Leon is a swarmer who is busier, more aggressive and faster.

Leon at his best in my mind was against Bernardo Mercado and I'll use Braddock over Baer. It's probably a pick-em fight. I could see Spinks outhustling Braddock to a decision or Braddock boxing smartly, countering and outpointing Leon.

I don't really have a strong opinion either way. Different eras with both guys fighting under different circumstances so I don't know if we really saw what each guy was capable of.

K-DOGG
01-28-2007, 09:02 AM
I know this guy turned into a one hit wonder but what he accomplished that Febuary night against Muhammad Ali was history. Spinks, an Olimpic medalist, entered the ring 6 - 0 -1.
Ali was 55 - 2. Why this fight was sanctioned in the first place escapes me but sure enough Neon Leon jumped on Ali and won a deserved SD win.
The reason i bring this up is consider fighters with inexperienced records such as Spinks in todays age. If given a shot against, never an Ali, but a Ruiz or a Brewster, wouldn`t you think someone out there would win having only a few fights?
Should these upstarts be given shots sometimes just as Leon Spinks was?

Well, Ali practicallyl gave the title away by not training for the fight and not launching any assault until he'd lost like 10 rounds; but I see your point. Also, the fact that one of the judges actually gave the figth to Muhammad is ludicrous; but I suppose that was just the effect of the myth of the man.

Should inexperienced fighters be given a shot at the belt? Personally, I don't think so; but Larry Holmes practically made a career out of it. :D