View Full Version : This is why boxing fans will always struggle to give MMA credit


Mary Jane
08-15-2009, 05:49 PM
Mercer vs. Sylvia was one thing, I agree.

But this... this is just laughable.
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anderson-silva_forrest-griffin.gif

I mean, the man was the king of LHW less than a year ago. Wow.

Napalm Death
08-15-2009, 06:38 PM
The king? where the **** did you get that idea from.

UnDeniable
08-15-2009, 07:03 PM
He lost to the Black Jesus, Forrest should have no shame in losing to that freak of nature

Caesar
08-15-2009, 07:16 PM
He lost to the Black Jesus, Forrest should have no shame in losing to that freak of nature

thats right

vinnie7731
08-15-2009, 09:14 PM
Mercer vs. Sylvia was one thing, I agree.

But this... this is just laughable.
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anderson-silva_forrest-griffin.gif

I mean, the man was the king of LHW less than a year ago. Wow.

griffin held the belt for only one title defense and lost it.............he is far from the king of lhw

but the knockout was definetly laughable

Mary Jane
08-15-2009, 09:30 PM
The king? where the **** did you get that idea from.

When he crippled the **** out of Rampage and made the man lose his mind.

MBL
08-15-2009, 09:52 PM
MMA is boring, I used to be a fan but its just the same old **** everytime

Im sure Silva will lose to some washed up old champion who didnt deserve a shot at the title in the first place

some of the lightweights are ok to watch but the rest are a joke

American_Ninja
08-16-2009, 01:56 AM
He lost to the Black Jesus, Forrest should have no shame in losing to that freak of nature

Black Jesus got KTFO by The Dragon.

Konstantin
08-16-2009, 03:07 AM
Mercer vs. Sylvia was one thing, I agree.

But this... this is just laughable.
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anderson-silva_forrest-griffin.gif

I mean, the man was the king of LHW less than a year ago. Wow.

How bout a prime Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas? Where do you rank that in laughable fight outcomes.

How many glass chinned prospects/champs have gotten embarrassed in boxing before?

Spartacus Sully
08-16-2009, 03:37 AM
40 mins of fighting vs 3?

Cadillac Man
08-16-2009, 03:42 AM
I'm sorry MMA fans but Kevin Iole said Silva has an Ali-esque KO...I laughed so hard! Griffin is a BUM! Silva might have some skills but KO'ing Griffin MEANS NOTHIN!

Nodogoshi
08-16-2009, 12:54 PM
I'm sorry MMA fans but Kevin Iole said Silva has an Ali-esque KO...I laughed so hard! Griffin is a BUM! Silva might have some skills but KO'ing Griffin MEANS NOTHIN!
I'd laugh too, Iole is a dip****.

Move BRICKS™
08-16-2009, 01:02 PM
It seems to me that boxing fans have trouble deciphering who really speaks for our sport and who is considered a joke.

Mary Jane
08-16-2009, 01:38 PM
It seems to me that boxing fans have trouble deciphering who really speaks for our sport and who is considered a joke.

I think MMA fans struggling deciphering that too.

Mary Jane
08-16-2009, 01:39 PM
How bout a prime Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas? Where do you rank that in laughable fight outcomes.

How many glass chinned prospects/champs have gotten embarrassed in boxing before?

You completely missed the "laughable" part.

GroundSt.Pound
08-16-2009, 03:30 PM
Mercer vs. Sylvia was one thing, I agree.

But this... this is just laughable.
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anderson-silva_forrest-griffin.gif

I mean, the man was the king of LHW less than a year ago. Wow.

Styles make fights. And there is no shame in losing to perhaps the best P4P fighter on the planet.

King of LHW? He didn't even defend his title. Nobody at LHW is king of anything because that belt gets passed around more than Belladonna at a ****ing orgy

them_apples
08-16-2009, 03:34 PM
How bout a prime Mike Tyson losing to Buster Douglas? Where do you rank that in laughable fight outcomes.

How many glass chinned prospects/champs have gotten embarrassed in boxing before?

in a few rounds by a jab? I don't know any.

Tyson vs Douglas was a competative war.

GroundSt.Pound
08-16-2009, 03:38 PM
in a few rounds by a jab? I don't know any.

Tyson vs Douglas was a competative war.

But the outcome in that fight wasn't expected. Douglas was a HEAVY underdog.

Anybody with a brain that knew MMA in even the slightest knew that Anderson was going to dismantle Forrest because Forrest is a brawler and Anderson is a technically proficient striker.

Now if Forrest had knocked out Anderson Silva, then you guys would have an arguement but you have none here.

Forrest was thrown to the wolves, got embarrassed and quit.

Not surprising

Gettin Jiggy
08-16-2009, 03:44 PM
in a few rounds by a jab? I don't know any.

Tyson vs Douglas was a competative war.

What about Bruce Seldon/Tyson. Seldon wasn't even getting hit with proper punchers. But yet was acting like he had been shot or something. He was proably worse than Forrest in his fight with Tyson. And Seldon was a world champion in Boxing.

Clint650
08-16-2009, 04:31 PM
Mma is a joke

GroundSt.Pound
08-16-2009, 04:34 PM
Mma is a joke

you're a joke

Clint650
08-16-2009, 04:42 PM
as of late, MMA has been mediocre at best. i say it's a joke, not only due to these embarrassing losses from well known respected fighters, but also due to the fact that these fights are considered to be huge events. i can tolerate Rogan and other hypemen trying to explain how important and historical these match-ups are, but when fans are booing the undercards for being a snorefest, the least a viewer could ask from Rogan, White and company is to acknowledge the lack of enthusiasm instead of blowing them out of proportion (like they always do).

Clint650
08-16-2009, 04:45 PM
and i'm no joke. im a fight fan. so grow up.

villa04
08-16-2009, 05:00 PM
Mercer vs. Sylvia was one thing, I agree.

But this... this is just laughable.
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anderson-silva_forrest-griffin.gif

I mean, the man was the king of LHW less than a year ago. Wow.

not really, you do realize those arent the only 2 athletes in the sport of mma right?

GroundSt.Pound
08-16-2009, 05:40 PM
and i'm no joke. im a fight fan. so grow up.

No you are a boxing fan, if you were a fight fan you would have never made that comment.

MMA and Boxing both put on great fights

Dice
08-16-2009, 05:54 PM
Sure boxing fans, lets convienently forget Ricky Hatton the KING OF 140 got embarrassed and knocked out by one hook from a fighter that used to fight at 108 pounds.

Lets not remember that one guys

Konstantin
08-16-2009, 07:35 PM
in a few rounds by a jab? I don't know any.

Tyson vs Douglas was a competative war.

Exactly, Douglas is a bum but he beat Tyson.

Stick around BS for a lil while and you'll get the idea that Tyson is a god.

Nodogoshi
08-16-2009, 08:59 PM
as of late, MMA has been mediocre at best. i say it's a joke, not only due to these embarrassing losses from well known respected fighters, but also due to the fact that these fights are considered to be huge events. i can tolerate Rogan and other hypemen trying to explain how important and historical these match-ups are, but when fans are booing the undercards for being a snorefest, the least a viewer could ask from Rogan, White and company is to acknowledge the lack of enthusiasm instead of blowing them out of proportion (like they always do).
The UFC is a joke. That's different from a the sport of MMA.

Nodogoshi
08-16-2009, 09:02 PM
Sure boxing fans, lets convienently forget Ricky Hatton the KING OF 140 got embarrassed and knocked out by one hook from a fighter that used to fight at 108 pounds.

Lets not remember that one guys
I know what you're saying, but Floyd Mayweather previously fought at 106 in the amateurs. Manny's been boxing professionally since he was 16 so it stands to reason he would grow through the course of his early career.

Phenomkidd
08-16-2009, 11:46 PM
Mercer vs. Sylvia was one thing, I agree.

But this... this is just laughable.
http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/anderson-silva_forrest-griffin.gif

I mean, the man was the king of LHW less than a year ago. Wow.

He has a brawling style, wins and losses will come, its in his nature.

MMA is boring, I used to be a fan but its just the same old **** everytime

Im sure Silva will lose to some washed up old champion who didnt deserve a shot at the title in the first place

some of the lightweights are ok to watch but the rest are a joke

Yeah and in boxing sometimes they don't use their hands...:doh:

40 mins of fighting vs 3?

Actually its 30 mins vs 15 mins non champ, champ is 36 vs 25. Take note that you expend energy a lot quicker in MMA.

Spartacus Sully
08-17-2009, 12:05 AM
Actually its 30 mins vs 15 mins non champ, champ is 36 vs 25. Take note that you expend energy a lot quicker in MMA.

actually the fight was 10 rounds with 1 min inbetween each or about 40 mins as far as tyson vs douglas and the silva vs griffin fight was about 3 mins ok well 3 mins 25 sec? .

Phenomkidd
08-17-2009, 12:07 AM
I was stating the maximum aloccated time per fight. Why would you include resting periods? You're not fighting at that time. Thats retarded to even include that.

Nodogoshi
08-17-2009, 12:15 AM
I was stating the maximum aloccated time per fight. Why would you include resting periods? You're not fighting at that time. Thats retarded to even include that.
Lol, a nice self-defeating argument.

Phenomkidd
08-17-2009, 12:16 AM
How so...?

Spartacus Sully
08-17-2009, 12:20 AM
I was stating the maximum aloccated time per fight. Why would you include resting periods? You're not fighting at that time. Thats retarded to even include that.

fine 30 mins to 3:25 the point is that tyson may have gotten beaten but both of them put up a fight for 10 rounds and forest only for 3 mins and 25 seconds. not that mma is a joke but you just cant really compare the 2 fights.

jakkups
08-17-2009, 12:24 AM
Sure boxing fans, lets convienently forget Ricky Hatton the KING OF 140 got embarrassed and knocked out by one hook from a fighter that used to fight at 108 pounds.

Lets not remember that one guys

He was actually 98lbs, he put metal in his pocket to make 106. But he was 16 so he was bound to grow and fill out properly as the years went by.

Phenomkidd
08-17-2009, 12:24 AM
Ok, but one fighter got knocked out faster than the other. So whats the prob? I may have missed something earlier in the thread that someone else may have said because I didn't read every post.

Spartacus Sully
08-17-2009, 12:31 AM
Ok, but one fighter got knocked out faster than the other. So whats the prob? I may have missed something earlier in the thread that someone else may have said because I didn't read every post.

I think the point is that as some one was trying to make is that mma is a joke because one fighter that was supposed to be the bee's knee's got totally annihilated by anderson so it was stated that since tyson who was the bee's knee's got ko'ed by douglas it was the same as boxing and boxing should be considered a joke as well, but buster didnt anihilate tyson he just beat him so there really shouldnt be a comparison.

Dirt E Gomez
08-17-2009, 12:53 AM
I think the point is that as some one was trying to make is that mma is a joke because one fighter that was supposed to be the bee's knee's got totally annihilated by anderson so it was stated that since tyson who was the bee's knee's got ko'ed by douglas it was the same as boxing and boxing should be considered a joke as well, but buster didnt anihilate tyson he just beat him so there really shouldnt be a comparison.

Except the comparison isn't valid to begin with.

Nobody who legitimately knows MMA thought Griffin had much of any chance. The fight only proved how good Silva was.

The appropriate boxing reference would be Hatton vs PBF. Yes, some people thought Hatton would win. But there's a reason I called them retards a year before the fight was concluded. Because non-fanboys who just are fans of the sport itself can see beyond their personal bias and see the obvious outcome.

This thread only give further proof that Boxing fans are inexplicably afraid of MMA like it's going to steal their thunder. It's absurd and gives me more reason to hate everybody.

Nodogoshi
08-17-2009, 12:56 AM
How so...?
I meant the guy you were quoting, not you.

The dude claiming that time between rounds should be considered as time in the fight is a self-defeating argument, as fighters rest in the corner. I agreed with you post man, the other guy was full of **** imo.

Spartacus Sully
08-17-2009, 01:18 AM
I meant the guy you were quoting, not you.

The dude claiming that time between rounds should be considered as time in the fight is a self-defeating argument, as fighters rest in the corner. I agreed with you post man, the other guy was full of **** imo.

because that min after the first round dosent actually happen while the fight is going on or something? so we actually travel to a diffrent dimension with a diffrent time and date then when the fight is going on for the min breaks between rounds. oh wait thats just stupid what am i thinking i remember now they hand out rest tokens after each round for you to vouch for min rest periods after the fight is over. those min breaks definitely dont happen during the fight...

Nodogoshi
08-17-2009, 01:28 AM
because that min after the first round dosent actually happen while the fight is going on or something? so we actually travel to a diffrent dimension with a diffrent time and date then when the fight is going on for the min breaks between rounds. oh wait thats just stupid what am i thinking i remember now they hand out rest tokens after each round for you to vouch for min rest periods after the fight is over. those min breaks definitely dont happen during the fight...

What exactly do you think they're doing while they're on the stool?

Spartacus Sully
08-17-2009, 01:40 AM
sarcasm......i really think you should look into it.

Ummm drinking water catching their breath treating cuts and figureing out what to do next......seems pretty important like almost enough to include it into the fight.

i like to look at a fight as to how long its been going on some people will look at it as how long they are actually fighting. instead of arguing as to why my view on a fight and time is better i went with the other point of view and still made a valid point. my point isnt full of **** its just not as exaggerated without the rest times.

Nodogoshi
08-17-2009, 02:46 AM
sarcasm......i really think you should look into it.

Ummm drinking water catching their breath treating cuts and figureing out what to do next......seems pretty important like almost enough to include it into the fight.

i like to look at a fight as to how long its been going on some people will look at it as how long they are actually fighting. instead of arguing as to why my view on a fight and time is better i went with the other point of view and still made a valid point. my point isnt full of **** its just not as exaggerated without the rest times.

Stop trying to mask your own stupidity:spank:

my point isnt full of ****
I would beg to differ.

princemanspoper
08-17-2009, 04:09 AM
That's the problem with mmGAY guys,Their just not tough at all and are starting to get picked off by anyone with half decent striking.One great problem with mmGAY is that the vast majority of it's fighters have glass jaws,It's an embarrassment,I would be ashamed of supporting such a sport where it's competitors are such cowards and so physically and mentally weak


But if you guys gets turned on between two men in panties molesting each other inside a cage then more power to you

Phenomkidd
08-17-2009, 04:20 AM
That's the problem with mmGAY guys,Their just not tough at all and are starting to get picked off by anyone with half decent striking.One great problem with mmGAY is that the vast majority of it's fighters have glass jaws,It's an embarrassment,I would be ashamed of supporting such a sport where it's competitors are such cowards and so physically and mentally weak


But if you guys gets turned on between two men in panties molesting each other inside a cage then more power to you

Hoorah! Three Cheers! Princeman***** is here!

Glass jaw? They take harder strikes with less padding then you can, guranteed. Half decent striking? They're getting hit by other MMA fighters, argument = not logical if you're trying to diss MMA. Physically and Mentally weak, a great vast amount of fighters train harder and take more punishment then you ever will. They aren't scared of getting hit with 4oz gloves. They aren't scared of getting knocked out. Getting destroyed is something that can happen to anyone in MMA, yet they fight on. Send me a vid of you fighting a decent MMA fighter. Let's see your iron jaw.

Most fighters wear shorts...just like boxers. Spandex shorts are also clothing, male parts are covered with protection...just like boxers. Your erotic fantasies are no good here PM*****. :bottle:

princemanspoper
08-17-2009, 07:11 AM
Hoorah! Three Cheers! Princeman***** is here!

Glass jaw? They take harder strikes with less padding then you can, guranteed. Half decent striking? They're getting hit by other MMA fighters, argument = not logical if you're trying to diss MMA. Physically and Mentally weak, a great vast amount of fighters train harder and take more punishment then you ever will. They aren't scared of getting hit with 4oz gloves. They aren't scared of getting knocked out. Getting destroyed is something that can happen to anyone in MMA, yet they fight on. Send me a vid of you fighting a decent MMA fighter. Let's see your iron jaw.

Most fighters wear shorts...just like boxers. Spandex shorts are also clothing, male parts are covered with protection...just like boxers. Your erotic fantasies are no good here PM*****. :bottle:


This silva fella is clearly miles ahead on virtually every other mmGAY fighter around and look at the results,Forest GUMP is supposedly a top ten fighter yet he got treated like a child by a fighter with half decent striking skills,I dare you to try and dispute that this forest griffin doesn't have a glass jaw.Less padding doesn't mean **** mate,You either got a chin or you haven't and most mmGAY fighters don't.Did you see that mexican wannabe torres the other week? Lol got dropped by a weak glancing shot and knocked out another glass jaw in mmGAY exposed

Face facts,Most mmGAY fighters aren't physically or mentall tough,Their weak little fairy puffs who can't take a punch,Since when was rubbing your groin against another man on the ground considered not gay? You have an odd perception of what is gay and what is not


I know your a huge mmGAY fan,Which is why you should stick to that lame homo ****.I bet you play mmGAY with your daddy every night huh?

Pecs
08-17-2009, 07:37 AM
This silva fella is clearly miles ahead on virtually every other mmGAY fighter around and look at the results,Forest GUMP is supposedly a top ten fighter yet he got treated like a child by a fighter with half decent striking skills,I dare you to try and dispute that this forest griffin doesn't have a glass jaw.Less padding doesn't mean **** mate,You either got a chin or you haven't and most mmGAY fighters don't.Did you see that mexican wannabe torres the other week? Lol got dropped by a weak glancing shot and knocked out another glass jaw in mmGAY exposed

Face facts,Most mmGAY fighters aren't physically or mentall tough,Their weak little fairy puffs who can't take a punch,Since when was rubbing your groin against another man on the ground considered not gay? You have an odd perception of what is gay and what is not


I know your a huge mmGAY fan,Which is why you should stick to that lame homo ****.I bet you play mmGAY with your daddy every night huh?

I am a fan of both sports but i just can't believe that boxing fans can hate MMA so much. Boxing is a great sport and is a valuable skill period. But MMA takes lots of skill and hard work as well. Both sports got bums and fighters with glass chins. No pro fighter who enters the ring or cage is a *****, even gina carano is not a ***** (she has one).

Its easy for people to just watch the fight and say that a fighter is a *****, mentally weak etc..... but when you are in the cage/ring going one on one someone who is a lot more skilled than you, its a different story.

Phenomkidd
08-17-2009, 08:01 AM
I am a fan of both sports but i just can't believe that boxing fans can hate MMA so much. Boxing is a great sport and is a valuable skill period. But MMA takes lots of skill and hard work as well. Both sports got bums and fighters with glass chins. No pro fighter who enters the ring or cage is a *****, even gina carano is not a ***** (she has one).

Its easy for people to just watch the fight and say that a fighter is a *****, mentally weak etc..... but when you are in the cage/ring going one on one someone who is a lot more skilled than you, its a different story.

Some people just don't understand you can love both...its sad. But its w/e y'know.

Cuauhtémoc1520
08-17-2009, 08:58 AM
I am a fan of both sports but i just can't believe that boxing fans can hate MMA so much. Boxing is a great sport and is a valuable skill period. But MMA takes lots of skill and hard work as well. Both sports got bums and fighters with glass chins. No pro fighter who enters the ring or cage is a *****, even gina carano is not a ***** (she has one).

Its easy for people to just watch the fight and say that a fighter is a *****, mentally weak etc..... but when you are in the cage/ring going one on one someone who is a lot more skilled than you, its a different story.

You know what it is, I used to think the same way but now I understand mma for what it is.

I respect mma, I love watching it. I have to admit I'm a boxing guy but I learned that mma is just a totally different animal. You cannot have the same level of striking with you hands as a boxer does because in order to be at that level, you need to concentrate on that your entire life. MMA fighters have to worry about 20 other things, boxers don't.

While Silva is a good striker from his feet, I also think Griffin was taylor made for him. He couldn't beat him on the ground and had to stand with him which was suicide.

Just a terrible match up for him and we have seen Silva be tested by other fighters. No man is invincible, Silva is no different but right now, I only see Machida giving him a run for his money. Because he has the closest level of striking AND ground game that can challenge Silva.

khepesh
08-17-2009, 09:52 AM
You know what it is, I used to think the same way but now I understand mma for what it is.



Way to go, Greened for that.

khepesh
08-17-2009, 02:12 PM
That's the problem with mmGAY guys,Their just not tough at all and are starting to get picked off by anyone with half decent striking.One great problem with mmGAY is that the vast majority of it's fighters have glass jaws,It's an embarrassment,I would be ashamed of supporting such a sport where it's competitors are such cowards and so physically and mentally weak


But if you guys gets turned on between two men in panties molesting each other inside a cage then more power to you

This is what the cat of my friend thinks about your statement:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=591&pictureid=5081

You have FAILED in a miserable way! :fing26: