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Is he still training with Luisito Espinosa & sparring with Andre Ward?

lol, he was serious about fighting RJJ huh? :rofl:

Nick Diaz has some of the best boxing in MMA, it'd be cool to see how he stacks against some okay fighters.

Nick Diaz has some of the best boxing in MMA, it'd be cool to see how he stacks against some okay fighters.

He has OK boxing, definitely not some of the best. He just threw alot of punches at Scott Smith who has never been a good striker and stands right in front of you the entire time. Volume and workrate is what makes his boxing look good, but technique wise it's pretty average. The time he actually went in there with someone who had good technique was against KJ Noons who outstruck him and cut him up to the point that it looked like Nick had been knifed.

Nick Diaz has some of the best boxing in MMA, it'd be cool to see how he stacks against some okay fighters.

he got smashed against NOONS in boxing game!


He has good style for boxing cuz he throws alot punches!

He has OK boxing, definitely not some of the best. He just threw alot of punches at Scott Smith who has never been a good striker and stands right in front of you the entire time. Volume and workrate is what makes his boxing look good, but technique wise it's pretty average. The time he actually went in there with someone who had good technique was against KJ Noons who outstruck him and cut him up to the point that it looked like Nick had been knifed.

The dude trains with Olympic caliber boxers, we both know that straight boxing isn't fine tuned for MMA and those small gloves - I was not surprised at all that Noons cracked him. I'm just saying the guy has some of the better credentials of the MMA fighting community to go pro in boxing.

The dude trains with Olympic caliber boxers, we both know that straight boxing isn't fine tuned for MMA and those small gloves - I was not surprised at all that Noons cracked him. I'm just saying the guy has some of the better credentials of the MMA fighting community to go pro in boxing.

Training with olympians doesn't give you good credentials for going into pro-boxing IMO because your training with guys who are there to go 3 x 2 minute rounds with headgear. Training at the Wild Card like Arlovski and Hardy do, and Anderson and BJ have is better credential wise than that. Plus at the same time, like you said, boxing is still the worst aspect of MMA with regards to the level of it. Nick's can look OK because it's been going up against guys who suck at it. Even Noons isn't amazing, not even average, and he put a whoopin on Diaz. And what makes it even worse, Noons fights at 155. You put Diaz in there with a guy who is a bonafide 168lb'er and they're gonna knock him out.

Training with olympians doesn't give you good credentials for going into pro-boxing IMO because your training with guys who are there to go 3 x 2 minute rounds with headgear. Training at the Wild Card like Arlovski and Hardy do, and Anderson and BJ have is better credential wise than that. Plus at the same time, like you said, boxing is still the worst aspect of MMA with regards to the level of it. Nick's can look OK because it's been going up against guys who suck at it. Even Noons isn't amazing, not even average, and he put a whoopin on Diaz. And what makes it even worse, Noons fights at 155. You put Diaz in there with a guy who is a bonafide 168lb'er and they're gonna knock him out.

To be fair, I don't think the Noons fight should have much baring on Nick's boxing rating, just as I wouldn't rate wreslter A a better wrestler by virtue of defeating wrestler B in an MMA match.

To be fair, I don't think the Noons fight should have much baring on Nick's boxing rating, just as I wouldn't rate wreslter A a better wrestler by virtue of defeating wrestler B in an MMA match.

This is true since it was an MMA fight and there is more to think about as far as offensive tools. However, the fight itself took place primarily on the feet, and even if you were to look at it as the old styles makes fights scenario, Nick didn't do well against a guy with reasonably good technique, movement and combinations. I was speaking purely based on the boxing aspect of the fight and how that would translate to a boxing match, and 9 times out of 10 a guy like Nick who hasn't been boxing long, isn't going to do well against a guy who has been boxing for the better part of his life.

ever since I read about Nick training with Andre Ward, and reading for myself about Diaz having a pro boxing fight and winning .. (he's 1-0 right)

I've been wondering when/if his boxing career would re-surface.

maybe he can rematch KJ Noons in a boxing match, lol.

**I realize they sit one weight class apart, but im just saying ... kinda funny how KJ for example fights MMA in the Lightweight, which is on the lower end of MMA weights (155 is lowest weight class in UFC for example)

yet in boxing Noons is at Middleweight, which I would consider to be one of the heavier weight classes .. in that for the most part boxers @ 160 are relatively large for the division (i.e Pavlik, Hagler, Hearns, formerly Taylor and Abraham)

he's in a "small" MMA weight division

and in a bigger Boxing weight division.