ottoevans
02-25-2005, 07:41 PM
if by a miracle of god he loses this fight are going to say he was old and he isnt the same as before???
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View Full Version : If Tito losed will ya say he was old?? ottoevans 02-25-2005, 07:41 PM if by a miracle of god he loses this fight are going to say he was old and he isnt the same as before??? IwatchBoxing 02-25-2005, 07:46 PM Yes. I will. PessimisticPug 02-25-2005, 07:57 PM winky wright is an extremely gifted fighter. He may not have the explosive offense that the general public loves but the man is highly skilled. If he beat Trinidad I would not call it anything close to a miracle of god. Maybe Trinidads age and lack of activity would play a part but I wouldnt down play Wrights worthyness in any way........Rockin' dino 02-25-2005, 08:02 PM i dont think trinidad can beat wright...nor could trinidad at 28 beat wright Marjoh 02-25-2005, 08:07 PM If he gets beaten via dicision, NO. If he gets beaten badly and get KO, probably. I simply don't know. But then again, though Mayorga is simply outmatched in the division, it was still a decent performance from Trinidad. So unless he gets old overnight, it would be nothing but excuse. ELPacman 02-25-2005, 08:11 PM Are you guys crazy? Having doubts? I don't think Wright has ANY chance. He let Mosley take afew shots and Mosley who obviously lost power going up in weight was able to hurt Wright. Now Trinidad who's a crazy accurate power puncher that can fire a lot harder I think will have no trouble with disposing Wright. Wright has zero power to be able to hurt Trinidad and I don't think his skill will be able to get him through this time. Shane was also a lot smaller than him. Trindad...No No. ELPacman 02-25-2005, 08:12 PM Oh yeah and in reply to the question of topic, if Trinidad loses, I won't say he was old, I'll say he was drugged and the FBI should look into it :D Zab Super Judah 02-25-2005, 08:14 PM winky makes fighters look bad...winky has a chance to upset.......but i dont think he can do it....but if trinidad loses ....its just becuase he faught winky not because hes too old Sn1 02-25-2005, 08:17 PM Oh yeah and in reply to the question of topic, if Trinidad loses, I won't say he was old, I'll say he was drugged and the FBI should look into it :D haha and main suspect is a don king hand delivered waterbottle :D AintGottaClue 02-25-2005, 08:18 PM there should be no ****ing excuses if tito loses what could there be? Kimmy 02-25-2005, 08:21 PM One good excuse could be the one he didn`t use after hopkins beat him.....I WAS BEATEN BY THE BETTER MAN! Soko 02-25-2005, 08:25 PM One good excuse could be the one he didn`t use after hopkins beat him.....I WAS BEATEN BY THE BETTER MAN! LOL!!! Great point. It's a Puerto Rican thing Sn1 02-25-2005, 08:30 PM there should be no ****ing excuses if tito loses what could there be? dodgy socks? :D ? Kimmy 02-25-2005, 08:32 PM I forgot to re - wrap my hands! IwatchBoxing 02-25-2005, 08:32 PM dodgy socks? :D ? Loss of sight? AintGottaClue 02-25-2005, 08:32 PM dodgy socks? :D ? pac musta lent tito em :X The Fix 02-25-2005, 08:35 PM if he lost to winky wright(which i think he will) there would be no excuse if he lost. mark my words that wright will outbox tito to a ud. btw does anybody else feel the reason why tito retired was to wait till hopkins was old and at his most vulnerable to fight him again, it makes sense that tito would wait because there is no way hopkins losses to tito while in his prime. IwatchBoxing 02-25-2005, 09:07 PM if he lost to winky wright(which i think he will) there would be no excuse if he lost. mark my words that wright will outbox tito to a ud. btw does anybody else feel the reason why tito retired was to wait till hopkins was old and at his most vulnerable to fight him again, it makes sense that tito would wait because there is no way hopkins losses to tito while in his prime.Better question, when Tito beats Hopkins, what will be your excuse? (Old, not his day, his head hurt?) ottoevans 02-25-2005, 10:28 PM yeah but that different tito is not 40. anyways i posted this question, cause of ya dumb asses say that tito is back, hes better than ever,he cant be beat. But im sure if he loses ya going to say he was robbed , distracted , or he was just too old. grayfist 02-25-2005, 11:04 PM Whether it be Tito or anyone else who'll eventually get to Bnard (granting that Hop is not going to retire undefeated any time soon) will find that history won't be kind to his victory. Hopkins' age will always be factored into the equation. People will always be tempted (and succumb to the temptation) to say, Bernard lost because time had finally caught up with him. I don't think it shall be thought of as a shining moment for whoever drives Bernard to retirement. Although that may not be fair... joeboxer 02-25-2005, 11:19 PM if he lost to winky wright(which i think he will) there would be no excuse if he lost. mark my words that wright will outbox tito to a ud. btw does anybody else feel the reason why tito retired was to wait till hopkins was old and at his most vulnerable to fight him again, it makes sense that tito would wait because there is no way hopkins losses to tito while in his prime. Absoulutly, Hopkins age is why Tito took a break, why Oscar came up now before Hopkins retired, why Eastman finally took a shot at coming back over, and why Taylor took so long "developing" The Phantom Menace 02-26-2005, 12:29 AM He is only in his early thirties. The age excuse won't work here. Sn1 02-26-2005, 12:37 AM when winkys out for the count will you still be saying winkys gonna win :D nope..too big a task IMO hopkins would have to do alot more against tito than he did against eastman..and tito wont follow hopkins round looking for the ko either..he will come to win every rd. still not sold on the tito comeback but defo think he can beat hopkins..not so sure he will but.. :boxing: Kid Achilles 02-26-2005, 12:38 AM He did have a two year layoff though, and layoffs are always damaging to a fighter's career. People who say he is as good as ever, I am not so sure. Beating a crude Mayorga does not prove he was the fighter who destroyed legitimate middleweights Joppy and Vargas. If he gets knocked out, I will definitely suspect his timing and reflexes have diminished with the inactivity. Mayorga is just so damn easy to hit that it was hard to tell from that fight really. The Phantom Menace 02-26-2005, 12:42 AM when winkys out for the count will you still be saying winkys gonna win :D nope..too big a task IMO hopkins would have to do alot more against tito than he did against eastman..and tito wont follow hopkins round looking for the ko either..he will come to win every rd. still not sold on the tito comeback but defo think he can beat hopkins..not so sure he will but.. :boxing: How many Tito fights have you seen? Tito is a search and destroy type of fighter, following his opponent around looking for a knockout is exactly what Tito does. He has never fought any other way this is his style. Sn1 02-26-2005, 12:48 AM How many Tito fights have you seen? Tito is a search and destroy type of fighter, following his opponent around looking for a knockout is exactly what Tito does. He has never fought any other way this is his style. seen tons of his fights though missed a few like pernell whittaker. i think titos changed. he didnt go after the ko with mayorga until he was ready. hopefully he can keep putting it into practice. its all about putting in the hardwork and letting the ko come naturally..which erik morales didnt do against MAB awhile back. im not saying he will beat hop..just that he can IwatchBoxing 02-26-2005, 01:15 AM How many Tito fights have you seen? Tito is a search and destroy type of fighter, following his opponent around looking for a knockout is exactly what Tito does. He has never fought any other way this is his style.Actually put on Tito vs. Campas, people acclaimed him for having boxing skills, later in his career he became big, and started looking for a KO allways, (or became slower moving up weight) cause he felt the fans demanded it, he can box. Watching him vs. Thiam right now, he actually moves away from Thiam, and keeps distance. Foreman even says "He better finish him off right now, because this guy (Thiam)gets stronger as the fight goes on". PRboxingfan 02-26-2005, 01:36 AM i dont think trinidad can beat wright...nor could trinidad at 28 beat wrightYour subtitle (custom title) says it all. PRboxingfan 02-26-2005, 01:42 AM He did have a two year layoff though, and layoffs are always damaging to a fighter's career. People who say he is as good as ever, I am not so sure. Beating a crude Mayorga does not prove he was the fighter who destroyed legitimate middleweights Joppy and Vargas. If he gets knocked out, I will definitely suspect his timing and reflexes have diminished with the inactivity. Mayorga is just so damn easy to hit that it was hard to tell from that fight really. Was Mayo easy to hit or was it Tito's remarkable accuracy, which he's always had, that made it appear so? Also, Vargas wasn't a Middleweight, he was a Jr. Middleweight, when he fought Tito. ottoevans 02-26-2005, 02:09 AM it was mayorga's face that was easy to hit he just ducked down and didnt have any head movement, damn he didnt even step back or anything. paulmmv 02-26-2005, 02:18 AM Winky is really good but the only way he'll beat tito is if tito fights like an old man is to answer your question yes deuce_drop 02-26-2005, 04:35 AM if he losses i say it was because of that jab!!!! Eman 02-26-2005, 11:07 AM Mayorga is an easy target yes, cuz he blocks punches with his face and his hands are swinging wild, but you have to get passed those wild hands to do any damage. Winky is a good southpaw but tito has fought better southpaws and beat them, bad. Tito wont get old over night just cause he doesnt live a bad life style, so i see tito ko winky in 8 Sn1 02-26-2005, 01:52 PM winky laid on a stretcher :mad: sorry guys MikeHunt 02-26-2005, 03:24 PM if by a miracle of god he loses this fight are going to say he was old and he isnt the same as before??? FYI............It's lost, not losed!! ottoevans 02-26-2005, 06:49 PM yea but mayorga was winded after the 1st round and also he didnt have the power to hurt Tito (although he did for a sec.) RwK 02-26-2005, 06:53 PM Actually put on Tito vs. Campas, people acclaimed him for having boxing skills, later in his career he became big, and started looking for a KO allways, (or became slower moving up weight) cause he felt the fans demanded it, he can box. Watching him vs. Thiam right now, he actually moves away from Thiam, and keeps distance. Foreman even says "He better finish him off right now, because this guy (Thiam)gets stronger as the fight goes on". excellent post. I have noticed that Tito has strayed from being a technitian as of late, maybe accredited to him being used to knocking fighters out.This is something he will have problems with at middle, Regardless of the fact that he knocked out Mayorga; who is not a true middleweight. He should have no trouble breaking Wright down however. I literally see no way Wright can win that fight. |