View Full Version : Ettiene - paid to take a dive?


!! Anorak
02-25-2005, 06:16 PM
I'm sure this was discussed at the time, but I've only just got to see the full Ettiene fight. It's not only the way that Ettiene takes his gumshield out... it's the way he has a smile to himself afterwards, as if to say "if I'm being paid to take a dive, I'm going to ham it up." Even on a subsconscious level it's as if he wants to give the game away through pride. Tyson bangs his own head afterwards and looks angry at how obvious and farcical it was.

I tell you what, though - that "broke my back" stuff IS hilarious. I think that's the funniest thing Tyson ever said, particularly the follow-up "spinal".

Kimmy
02-25-2005, 06:29 PM
Yeah....if Tyson had a brain i`d say he was being very clever with those post fight comments!

NAB
02-25-2005, 06:33 PM
He's a crap musician anyway

Kimmy
02-25-2005, 06:35 PM
I don`t know, his voice is very high pitch, i bet he can sing Thriller pretty good....

NAB
02-25-2005, 06:37 PM
I really hate that song "Stan"

jack_the_rippuh
02-25-2005, 06:55 PM
If he was paid to take a dive or not, I don't know. I don't think we'll ever know for sure, but that KO did look vicious..

Slipx
02-25-2005, 06:58 PM
I really hate that song "Stan"

the video is what made stan great,

watching the video with that song is priceless if you've never seen it..

Slipx
02-25-2005, 06:59 PM
If he was paid to take a dive or not, I don't know. I don't think we'll ever know for sure, but that KO did look vicious..

thats my theory

i doubt etienne was paid to take a dive, and it's stupid to even assume that(then again coming from the OP im not suprised),being he's so much lesser of a fighter than tyson


one of these 2 things:

1. he got ko'd

2. he got knocked down and told himself 'im not getting up and fighting that animal again' and just faked a ko.

TyrantT316
02-25-2005, 07:49 PM
I didn't know chins accepted Mastercard?

AintGottaClue
02-25-2005, 08:35 PM
I didn't know chins accepted Mastercard?

bahahaha


10 oz gloves blah blah dollars

heavy boxing bag (whatever) dollars

getting paid to take a 10 second nap... pricless

Knicksman20
02-25-2005, 09:14 PM
Ettiene just got KTFO in that fight. It was a short right hand to that china-chin of his that did it. Look at how his legs gave out when he got hit. He could've broke his ankle because of the way he fell, it was an awkward fall from a hard punch.

spinksjinx
02-25-2005, 09:39 PM
Clifford did the same thing with the mouthpiece against Calvin Brock. The theories should stop.

enadeus
02-25-2005, 10:16 PM
Just watched the fight over. Mike Tyson didn't hint anything about a dive in the interview, if yes give me text. He definetly didn't take a dive. I think some fighters find it instinctive to take out the mouthpiece because lots of times saliva blocks up the throat and its hard to breathe. Was he able to continue is the big question, and I think he was. He just stayed down cause he knew that he would get battered if he got up. He definetly underestimated Tyson's strenght and dind't do his reasearch.

!! Anorak
02-25-2005, 10:22 PM
Just watched the fight over. Mike Tyson didn't hint anything about a dive in the interview, if yes give me text. He definetly didn't take a dive. I think some fighters find it instinctive to take out the mouthpiece because lots of times saliva blocks up the throat and its hard to breathe. Was he able to continue is the big question, and I think he was. He just stayed down cause he knew that he would get battered if he got up. He definetly underestimated Tyson's strenght and dind't do his reasearch.Sorry, the interview bit was incidental. What I noticed what Tyson hitting his own head in frustation after the fight ended.

Wanted Etienne regarded as a prospect before this?

enadeus
02-25-2005, 10:23 PM
Damn can you get rid of the gay colors, what is all this gay pride all about. Its mad annoying.

!! Anorak
02-25-2005, 10:25 PM
Damn can you get rid of the gay colors, what is all this gay pride all about. Its mad annoying.Hey, blame IWatchBoxing, not me - I lost a bet. March 20th.

enadeus
02-25-2005, 10:26 PM
Aight. I get it now. Heh.

!! Anorak
02-25-2005, 10:29 PM
You won't bet against IWatchBoxing now, will you? :)

joeboxer
02-25-2005, 10:58 PM
what bet you lose?

don't tell me you bet Eastman just cause your british

!! Anorak
02-26-2005, 08:02 AM
what bet you lose?

don't tell me you bet Eastman just cause your britishNo, I bet on him because I thought he had a genuine outside chance. After all, he can dish nuff tump and take nuff tump, can't he?

neils7147933
02-26-2005, 08:08 AM
Etienne threatened to withdraw from the fight just hours before it went down. There were all kinds of outside things going on, and he did get some extra money to go through with the fight.

The Black Rhino just mailed it in. He could have continued, but had no desire to after getting KD'd. I agree that spitting out his mouthpiece and closing his eyes and acting dead looked ridiculous, but there are a lot less punishing ways to throw a fight than to let Tyson hit you with a clean shot to the skull...

RwK
02-26-2005, 02:59 PM
There is essentially nothing we can do about Tyson. If he were to die tommorow, nuthuggers would create threads about how good he was, how good he could have been, etc. God forbid the fact that he ever fought, and never fought anyone worth a damn. Those he did, he lost to. Mike Tyson is the most overrated fighter of all time. And Etienne did take a dive. Tyson hits hard, but not that hard.

TyrantT316
02-26-2005, 03:41 PM
I think he simply got caught...was not badly hurt...but figured he would stay down so he could collect his pay and not take anymore damage...

he seemed to have gone in there with the mentality to just trade with Mike, hope for the best...if it works, it works...if not, then oh well, I am staying down

enadeus
02-26-2005, 04:27 PM
Watch old fights of Tyson, Tyson knocked out plenty of chumps with that punch. You obviously don't know what your talking about when you say "Tyson hits hard but not that hard".

!! Anorak
02-26-2005, 04:32 PM
Watch old fights of Tyson, Tyson knocked out plenty of chumps with that punch. You obviously don't know what your talking about when you say "Tyson hits hard but not that hard".
Yeah, but they didn't go flying through the air like effeminate acrobats, did they?

RwK
02-26-2005, 05:21 PM
Watch old fights of Tyson, Tyson knocked out plenty of chumps with that punch. You obviously don't know what your talking about when you say "Tyson hits hard but not that hard".

Toney knocked Evander Holyfield out with a body shot.

Tyson landed plenty of flush punches on Holy. No go.

Toney does not hit harder than Tyson.

Chris Byrd could knock out the people Tyson did.

you are just a "fan".

!! Anorak
02-26-2005, 06:02 PM
There was a lot of difference between Holyfields though.

Slipx
02-26-2005, 08:09 PM
i bet holyfield dies of a heart attack in a couple of years, or maybe ten more years at the most

i love the guy and got mad respect for him,but he ****ed up his heart with the juice