View Full Version : Broadcasting the undercard AFTER the main event on TV - a good idea?
!! Anorak 02-25-2005, 06:05 PM Quite often for lesser matches on UK TV they'll start the live screening only when the main event is ready to go. Then all the undercard will get edited down and served up afterwards, depending on how long is left in the schedule.
Now is this a good idea that should be taken up more widely? Okay, you'll lose the full experience, but when that experience is delayed or fights drop out, wouldn't this be a better way to see it?
I'm sure we've all sat through tedious undercard bouts waiting for the main event. This way if you weren't in the mood you could switch off after you've seen the guys you tuned in for. likewise, sometimes I've seen what looked like highly entertaining undercard bouts but couldn't focus on them fully as I was too excited waiting for the main event.
Picture a few years back, where you'd sit through over two hours of dross, just to see Tyson... and then he'd knock the guy out in a minute. Put it the other way round, you'd see Tyson do his one-minute KO (okay, maybe not any more, but you know what I mean), be disappointed, but then think "oh well, I can console myself with these other fights..."
Kimmy 02-25-2005, 06:39 PM Yeah, i see the point but remember those big pay per views in the UK like the Judgement night one where you had an undercard that was:
Ronald Wright Vs Ensley Bingham
Naseem Hamed Vs Relgino Molina
Steve Collins Vs Nigel Benn
Henry Akinwande Vs Alexander Zolkin
Micheal Moorer Vs Frans Botha
and the main event.....Tyson Vs Holyfield
Now, if they made fight cards like that then i wouldn`t mind sitting through it ( it was fantastic the first time round )!
Lol999 02-25-2005, 06:40 PM Thing is , I've actually sat up to all hours watching the Beeb because a local fighter has been on the undercard only for the Beeb to edit and not even show that particular fight. Now that is annoying! By all means show the main eventfirst, but at least put highlights of the FULL undercard on, not just a few highlights of a few fights.
Lol :D
jack_the_rippuh 02-25-2005, 07:24 PM Well the thing about it is, some boxing fans don't have access to websites and their only chance at getting the inside boxing scoop is during fight time. What I'm saying is, it will be hard for alot of good fighters to become known if the main event is shown first, because alot of people would just call it a night after seeing what they paid to see. I can't count how many times I've noticed how good a fighter was by just watching the undercard of a fight. For example the Kasim Ouma fight against Kofi Jantuah, ask me if I knew who Ouma was before the fight, now I look forward to seeing him in action again.
PessimisticPug 02-25-2005, 07:33 PM The way I figure is that as long as boxing is on television its good. They dont really do that in the U.S from what I've seen but if they did it would not bother me in the least.(Undercard after main) The best times for me when a television is involved is when they are airing boxing. They can do what ever they want as long as they show me a couple of hours or even just an hour is good. Well, that is an hour or two not containing amatuer woman posing as professionals. Skilled woman is fine, but some of these chicks, geeeeeez....Rockin'
neils7147933 02-26-2005, 08:11 AM Well the thing about it is, some boxing fans don't have access to websites and their only chance at getting the inside boxing scoop is during fight time. What I'm saying is, it will be hard for alot of good fighters to become known if the main event is shown first, because alot of people would just call it a night after seeing what they paid to see. I can't count how many times I've noticed how good a fighter was by just watching the undercard of a fight. For example the Kasim Ouma fight against Kofi Jantuah, ask me if I knew who Ouma was before the fight, now I look forward to seeing him in action again.
You'd never seen Ouma on HBO or Showtime prior to the Jantuah fight? I don't have it on my computer, but have someone upload the Verno Phillips fight, especially the last couple rounds...
neils7147933 02-26-2005, 08:17 AM Quite often for lesser matches on UK TV they'll start the live screening only when the main event is ready to go. Then all the undercard will get edited down and served up afterwards, depending on how long is left in the schedule.
Now is this a good idea that should be taken up more widely? Okay, you'll lose the full experience, but when that experience is delayed or fights drop out, wouldn't this be a better way to see it?
I'm sure we've all sat through tedious undercard bouts waiting for the main event. This way if you weren't in the mood you could switch off after you've seen the guys you tuned in for. likewise, sometimes I've seen what looked like highly entertaining undercard bouts but couldn't focus on them fully as I was too excited waiting for the main event.
Picture a few years back, where you'd sit through over two hours of dross, just to see Tyson... and then he'd knock the guy out in a minute. Put it the other way round, you'd see Tyson do his one-minute KO (okay, maybe not any more, but you know what I mean), be disappointed, but then think "oh well, I can console myself with these other fights..."
I imagine the casual fan tunes in for the main event. Starting the telecast with the main event keeps the ratings higher as fewer people are switching off the telecast during the first quarter hour and so on.
This makes sense if you're talking about commercial, free TV.
The boxing fans will stick around for the rest, but the network can count on a higher rating for the first few quarter hours of the show, and can charge a higher amount for the commercials during that time period. Since the outcome and length of the fights are not predetermined, it's impossible to tell an advertiser how many viewers they estimate for the 3rd, 4th, or whatever fight of the night.
You'll notice the live crowds filtering in only for the last 2 fights usually.
Also, if they record 8 undercards but only show 4, they can filter out the "small-time" bouts that ended in no contest, were boring, etc.
I like when Fox Sports has a main event 1st round KO and they go on to show 2 guys with horrible records to pad out the hour. But hey, it's better than the HBO guys talking and doing interviews in front of a ring that you can see two guys fighting in, but they're not acknowledging that it's going on because (for example) they want to talk about a scratch on DLH's hand (Hopkins fight). I like the idea of taping the undercards to bring out in case of delays.
If you're talking about PPV or cable fights showing the main event first, I guess the advertiser argument doesn't work, only the idea that you're telling your subscriber that two guys are fighting at a certain time, and not that the show starts at a certain time, but the 2 guys you're hyping may not come out for 2 1/2 hours...
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